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Now that I think of the low P/Gs, if DiA is P/G Dami can be as well lol. Dami has stronger chest development and better vowels than DiA throughout especially in midbelts. Compare Dami at 0:41 in this video vs Dia at 0:43: ua-cam.com/video/BNbS8JlM6no/v-deo.htmlsi=RikA_y-KClB6k-Ep Dami sounds chestier and rounder throughout. She doesnt lose to DiA on any note tbh.

​@@SoulVelvet5:42 was a good E5 yeh. Even her mid belt was bomb and huge ❤ imo she was in the same level with Eunji currently (mid P-G).

Dami's mid belt > Eunji 🤧

@winterretniw as much as I agree that Dami is a strong vocalist, I think it's fair to put her in P for now. There's still a big gap between her and our safe P-G vocalists (Moontak, current Yeonji, current Lina, Ock, Pink, GaGa, etc). I feel like, for you to reach the P-G mark, you should be able to showcase the ability to implement the low larynx coordination or a respectful amount of chest development. Neither Dami nor Eunji (who are competent belters) have showcased that ability yet.

@@NickiandOlivia I mean if Hyolyn is rated as a mid P-G, then Dami should also be there with a much better mid belt

@@NickiandOlivia she does! She sounds like what Yuju couldve been if Yuju continued to develop her technique....

@@SoulVelvet true😭

Girl, same!

@@Douchifer Not only does her singing snatch but she's also a multi-competition winning pianist: ua-cam.com/video/CegjaAVvYcw/v-deo.htmlsi=ohP-CcNJi0C8MxzB

@@YEOUN_channel I've heard her support G3s and her hv is quite nice for a pop singer. Its certainly better than Taeyeon and Wendy: ua-cam.com/video/4YUwCHSa1Rw/v-deo.htmlsi=n6xHW-QbeNOGjYcd I''d say she's easily above Prime Taeyeon in rank at the very least.

@@SoulVelvet Ohh that's nice to know !! Thankss ^^

​@@YEOUN_channelHere's her lows and hv: ua-cam.com/video/NfOPZdnqD3Y/v-deo.htmlsi=DzuVrDTVUVEl0wL7

@@SoulVelvet Yeah , her head voice sounds polished , and her lows too. A nice well rounded vocalist you got there !

​@@YEOUN_channel yesss and she's also a trained classical pianist and music teacher with a masters degree in music: ua-cam.com/video/CegjaAVvYcw/v-deo.htmlsi=ohP-CcNJi0C8MxzB

light sopranos

They are round & strong, not tensed.

@@winterretniw Those A4-D5 are beating many Ps including prime Taeyeon tbh. Shes at least higher P (with hv too)ua-cam.com/video/bajgkloFvwU/v-deo.htmlsi=S3TYjUPRtN2iS_Xf

@@SoulVelvet she is high Proficient?

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@@vocalzens6642 well said

she is, being a Sopranino in her prime and a High Soprano until now, Lee Sun Hee really has the power and technique to be considered the Korean queen of midbelts. Her chest development is listed as one of the top of this world, and no one in Korea can surpass her midbelts.

@@minakanushi0099 up to Eb5 especially

@@yupoi7056 actually up to D5 is more sensical, her Eb5 and upper usually depends on at best quality. She does have some very dense E5 in her greatest, but to combine both consistency and quality then from Eb5 is the place for Sonnet

@@minakanushi0099 yeah sure but her Eb5s especially at her best are so huge

this needs to be pinned

She's been declining for many years since her peak in 2012-2014. In 2024 it seems to be continuing. Rough moments in Bb4-C5 like are becoming more common like 1:19 in ua-cam.com/video/Vr4Ft_fInec/v-deo.htmlsi=hM1BzKgfj5N5c90m

@@SoulVelvet thanks for your reply!! Honestly at first, I thought she was opting for a lighter approach by placing her voice in her nose since 2020 ish but now Idk anymore but she really was/is such a great singer and I've been with her since 2012 🙌

@@ericly6482 Ailee has definetly gotten lighter but that isnt a good thing - all her old issues got much worse and she got less full (regression in vowels throughout, more tension, more pushing). Ailee's issue was never because she's too chesty, actually her fullness is one of the reasons she was rated high in her prime. Her main issue was always her vowel/throat shaping. Ailee's still young so she can still recover, 35 is not an age where Ailee needs to switch to a lighter approach. She should be in her vocal prime right now and if she rests and gets lessons/practice in the next few years she can improve again.

@@SoulVelvet definitely agree, I think she really does need to rest to let the vocal cords recover

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​@@ninjagreem2.080 Thanks, do you also know the song at 3:03? edit: Can't seem to find a version that she makes such a huge resonance like on the vid 😂

You really consider her to be comparable to Barbra...?

@@NickiandOlivia Barbra was better, especially in her youth, but LSH’s overall development and strength in the belting range are much closer to Barbra than the Kpop singers she’s routinely compared to.

@@AnimeMovement You think Barbra was ever better than LSH... interesting

@@NickiandOlivia There’s a stark difference between Barbra and the belters who proceeded her (Judy Garland, Ethel Merman, Kate Smith), but Barbra still had great control over her range. Even when she got lighter in her later years, she still had uncanny dynamic control. She was also a huge role model for LSH, and you can hear elements of her singing in her voice.

@@AnimeMovement Barbra was never an exceptional belter, never in her entire career. Her dynamics are indeed incredible, but she is pretty overrated as a vocalist. Her belts never had the coordination or the roundness LSH has.

you're bad

That's not nice

not bad

Rough pushy and struggles - thats a more accurate description for current Ailee tbh. Idk how Gui can put current Ailee in P-G and penalise LSH when Ailee pushes way more with a way more distorted sound.

Even if she is not consistent above D5 I still put her in High Proficient tier at least with that crazy mid belt

It is true that LSH's coordination is not as refined above D5, but her Eb5s are still way better than those of Lily who often get a pass. LSH is able to sing a clean overdrive belt up to Eb5 with decent control and good breath support, and that's not something easy to achieve at all. Also, let's not pretend as if she's a one trick pony. Her hv is also quite developed, and it's also an area that was overlooked by kva. She actually tries to add some sort of depth up there, and I do hear nice development up to G#5-ish. As much as Ailee is respected as a vocalist, it is evident that her vocal condition is getting worse. Ailee always had problems with curbing and pushing above C#5, but nowadays, these issues are present even as low as Bb4, which is extremely underwhelming. There's just no way someone thinks current Ailee is better than LSH

​@@jinji4609 she deserves to be higher than high proficient since she outsing Lina, Haeri who are said to be in good tier

That fool can't do nothing other than blocking

Lee Sunhee in prime was P/G or low Good, shes 59yo now so she's not in prime anymore but in recent years shes still outsinging AAs even in old age. Her cover of I will go to you like the first snow had nice open C5s: 2:43 ua-cam.com/video/GOmSywOu5uQ/v-deo.htmlsi=NOjkCvF3qZ1NInEv Ailee is debatable, a lot of people have moved her into P/G but even that's questionable. Since 2022 even on Bb4/B4 she can have tension and the fifth octave is very distorted and pushed, distorted to the point its hard to tell what words shes singing above C5. Her coordination as a whole is less impressive and all her old issues got way worse. The P-Gs are all above current Ailee in belting imo. P-G is hard to justify when her fifth octave is a mess and even Bb4/B4 show issues. She sounds very out of place in P-G next to vocalists like Ock Joohyun, Yeonji etc.

@@SoulVelvet Hmm do u think Ailee is a Proficient at most now? I mean Nayul Eb5/E5 (just like Ailee now) but she is a high Proficient bcs of her lightness in Eb5/E5 (but her effortless support here > Ailee), and below Eb5, she is doing so gooddd.

​@@winterretniwAilee now only has B4 even her fourth octave can be rough these days

​@@SoulVelvetprime sunhee being only proficient to good is unjust tbh

@@winterlong7953 She still supports up to Eb5/E5 nowadays