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I HATE DATING APPS
Приєднався 17 сер 2006
Two journalists and their guests dig into the dirt and data of online dating. From ghosting, to catfishing, to the endless d*** pics... can you blame them for hating on dating apps?
Jinah Kim is an entrepreneur and TV reporter living in Southern California, covering breaking news and entertainment in Southern California. She is the founder of a video production company, a children's product company, and a service that helps families preserve precious memories. A divorced mom, Jinah has been trying to find the light at the end of the dating app tunnel since 2022.
Daniel Yi is a former journalist and communications executive living in Los Angeles. As a staff writer for the Los Angeles Times for over a decade, Daniel covered everything from crime to education to healthcare. As a PR and strategic communications professional, he has worked in transportation, utilities and marijuana. Daniel is a proud dilettante whose superpower is curiosity.
Music by www.justinyoungsax.com/
Jinah Kim is an entrepreneur and TV reporter living in Southern California, covering breaking news and entertainment in Southern California. She is the founder of a video production company, a children's product company, and a service that helps families preserve precious memories. A divorced mom, Jinah has been trying to find the light at the end of the dating app tunnel since 2022.
Daniel Yi is a former journalist and communications executive living in Los Angeles. As a staff writer for the Los Angeles Times for over a decade, Daniel covered everything from crime to education to healthcare. As a PR and strategic communications professional, he has worked in transportation, utilities and marijuana. Daniel is a proud dilettante whose superpower is curiosity.
Music by www.justinyoungsax.com/
Why Won't My Match Meet IRL?
We've all had it happen to us: you strike up a great conversation with someone on a dating app, and it looks like it SHOULD be heading to a real-life date. Except it doesn't. Why, oh why, do people - who are presumably on the dating app to DATE - want to text endlessly instead? Or worse - ghost you when you suggest actually meeting IRL? Jinah and Daniel are joined by two guests: Kari Mendoza - @808golfergirl and Alex Min - @alexsmin as they try to get to the bottom of this WTF conundrum.
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The 90% Problem: Percentage of Men Who Get NO LOVE on the Dating Apps
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Statistics upon statistics show that it's pretty rough for the great majority of men on dating apps. Just 10% (or less) of men get ALL the women liking them, leaving some 90% of men with little to no swipes, matches, conversations, dates - and thus - romantic relationships. Men are lonelier than ever. Why is this happening?? What's the solution? And what's it REALLY like out there if you're a d...
Ep. 27: How to Stay Memorable to Your Dates
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Ep. 27: How to Stay Memorable to Your Dates
Ep. 26: Younger Men Dating Older Women on Dating Apps
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Ep. 26: Younger Men Dating Older Women on Dating Apps
Ep 24: Is Dating Easier with a Wingman?
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Ep 24: Is Dating Easier with a Wingman?
Ep. 23: Are Dating Apps Worse for Introverts?
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Ep. 23: Are Dating Apps Worse for Introverts?
Ep. 22: Crazy Tales From a Mature Dater
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Ep. 22: Crazy Tales From a Mature Dater
Ep. 21: Matchmaking is as old as civilization, but how does it compare to dating apps?
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Ep. 21: Matchmaking is as old as civilization, but how does it compare to dating apps?
Ep. 20: Who Should Make The First Move?
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Ep. 20: Who Should Make The First Move?
Ep. 19: They Were About to Delete the Dating Apps When...
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Ep. 19: They Were About to Delete the Dating Apps When...
Ep. 17: Men Behaving Badly on Dating Apps
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Ep. 17: Men Behaving Badly on Dating Apps
Ep. 16: Can Dating Coaches Help Jinah?
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Ep. 16: Can Dating Coaches Help Jinah?
Ep. 15: Navigating Neurodiversity in Dating. What do you do when your date has Asperger’s?
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Ep. 15: Navigating Neurodiversity in Dating. What do you do when your date has Asperger’s?
Ep. 14: "I'm 29, and I Can't Get a Date."
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Ep. 14: "I'm 29, and I Can't Get a Date."
Ep. 13: Niche Dating Apps. When Mainstream Dating Apps Don’t Work.
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Ep. 13: Niche Dating Apps. When Mainstream Dating Apps Don’t Work.
Ep. 12: Navigating Dating Apps as an Asian Male
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Ep. 12: Navigating Dating Apps as an Asian Male
Ep. 11: These People Are Trying Without Dating Apps
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Ep. 11: These People Are Trying Without Dating Apps
Ep. 4: Ghosting (and Other Terrible Behaviors) on Dating Apps
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Ep. 4: Ghosting (and Other Terrible Behaviors) on Dating Apps
Ep. 2: First Impressions. How to Craft the Perfect Dating App Profile
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Ep. 2: First Impressions. How to Craft the Perfect Dating App Profile
Ep. 1: A Dude Named Raz and the Beginning of I Hate Dating Apps
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Ep. 1: A Dude Named Raz and the Beginning of I Hate Dating Apps
I Hate Dating Apps is the podcast about the trials of finding real love in a digital age.
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I Hate Dating Apps is the podcast about the trials of finding real love in a digital age.
When i hear women talk about a funny and witty profile working, i laugh because i have seen the videos of women who don’t know they are being recorded swiping 90 lefts a minute. Yeah those profiles must just be captivating
80 dates that means she was going on 1 date every 5 days. Probably more than that one person per week. Did she find anyone out of those 80? How many were foodie calls?
Only bad boy Chads and Tyrones get action.
Of course the woman host is a gaslighter & denies the female rejection rates. She managed to hit every lie & cliche & none of these guys were man enough to correct her. Like seriously tell her to stfu!
The reason you see attractive women when you haven’t paid is that they are fake profiles. The apps create them to suck you in… even send fake messages that you then have to pay for a subscription to read or reply.
It's pretty obvious why Chris and Alex aren't getting hits: they're average guys. This isn't an insult, it's just what all of us average guys deal with. The co-host really made a ton of sense with the provided data and he was spot on about the "whys". Almost every woman around the world, regardless of specifics, essentially wants the Chris Hemsworth archetype if he's available. As noted, those guys are in the top five or ten percentile, and as the co-host rightly pointed out, these guys (who we typically refer to as Chad/Tyrone) do not care about building relationships, they have dates being thrown their way and have no reason to settle down. Yet every woman thinks that she is going to be the one to tame Chad/Tyrone, but that never happens, and that's when they end up on TikTok asking "where are all the good men?" because all of them chased after Chad/Tyrone and ended up heartbroken. They didn't even give the average guy a chance because if you have thousands of men to choose from, why not choose Chris Hemsworth? But those are things we already know. For guys like Chris and Alex, how do they compete? Well, you don't. Kiss dating apps goodbye, because it's a zero sum game for average guys. You have to lookmaxx, and comedymaxx, and stylemaxx, and profilemaxx, etc., etc., etc. Meeting people in real life is still your best bet, as pointed out near the end. But more than that -- and I'm not kidding here -- guys like Chris and Alex need to man up. They need to indulge in their more maculine side. Workout, establish hobbies where you can build leadership skills, and still retain the playful or witty characteristics that help set you apart from everyone else. But even more than that, you have to showcase that you are a man in charge and with confidence, and you build this by building up your own character traits: health, smarts, skills, and hobbies. This is why there are some short guys who get a lot of attention, due to their interests, personality, confidence and charisma. So work on those things, and lots more long-term options will open up... meeting people in real life. Also, at 1:02:22 -- they cannot find a man BECAUSE of the salaries and degrees. If they are only looking for guys equivalent to their social status, it greatly dwindles their prospects; if you then combine that with the typical requirements associated with most modern women, you end up with guys that they are only willing to date that are within the top 0.01%. The women with degrees and high salaries are almost always the top clients for dating coaches chiefly because they are only looking for men on a higher social plateau than them, and all the dating coaches tell them the exact same thing: lower your standards.
They are not average. They are bald, old men. I assure you guys wayyy above them also getting zero matches.
@@Scotty_Bo0m What do guys in their mid-50s look like if not balding and gray? But actually, technically I think Chris is above average since he is taller than the average guy, and still no hits. But you're absolutely right that guys who are in 6s and 7s are also getting no action. Basically it's all geared toward the 8s to 10s.
@@Billy-bc8pk yeah I mean you are asking the wrong question! Women DONT CARE. Being bald is one of the hardest hurdles any guy is gonna have to overcome. He will never get a pretty or thin girl at tnis point. I am 37 & I have been trying really hard since 30 to find a girl & to end this nightmare called dating. Eventually we run out of youth & good looks that are required to get these women… is it what it is! The boomer hosts on this show are overloading on cringe. I dunno why they are so confused about all this. Women don’t wanna date old, bald dudes period so we HAVE to get out of the dating game before the point of no return. The sad reality is the Norwood reaper screwed these guys & they are most likely gonna spend the rest of their days alone…
@@Scotty_Bo0m Ha, you're absolutely right that they don't care... however, they absolutely can lookmaxx with the balding look. Tons of women love guys like Jason Statham or Johnny Sins. But the trick is that those guys have killer bodies. Will Alex and Chris ever look like Jason Statham? Heck no. But they can attempt to hit the gym, trim down, and hopefully work on their physique. Getting someone young and thin? You're absolutely right... it's completely out of the question. Getting someone around their age who might find them attractive if they put in the work? It is possible but, as you stated, highly unlikely. And yeah, the hosts bypassing the major elephant in the room that women have thousands of options every day on dating apps to choose from and are only choosing the Chris Hermsworth-tier alpha Chads was definitely frustrating. Hopefully Alex and Chris leave behind the early-aughts dating mentality and focus on becoming sigmas.
Rez knows that you are looking for a father for your kid not lunch and action
There are young people that cannot afford to pay their monthly fee at LAFitness. So this guy did not want to pay for your lunch. If women really want to meet a guy try saying Hi to guys every time you ate out. That will require that you are an adult.
There are young people that cannot afford to pay their monthly fee at LAFitness. So this guy did not want to pay for your lunch. If women really want to meet a guy try saying Hi to guys every time you ate out. That will require that you are an adult.
Hi, this is Rez……….only kidding. How could you have 1500 responses then pick or match this guy and have this happen. Unbelievable and funny
Hi, this is Rez……….only kidding. How could you have 1500 responses then pick or match this guy and have this happen. Unbelievable and funny
"I was getting people in Thailand" and they all gasp. Same happened to me. I assumed these women were scammers. Why is a 20 year-old super attractive foreign woman messaging me in Phoenix?" Scam, right? After awhile I got curious what the scam was and I messaged one back. It was a great. So I researched WTF was going on. Bunch of videos of old dudes like me explaining the whole deal. Turns out legit. Yeah there are scammers. Never send even a penny and short term scammers are eliminated. And yeah they're still females with all the same female instincts. But there are a lot of young attractive fun women in other countries wanting a provider man. The bloom is off the rose for me now. I get these are still women. So I'm not over the moon thinking these are perfect women. I got off the dating sites and chatting with foreign women because it took a lot of time and online is fantasy. But next year I am planning a move to SE Asia for other reasons. I assume I'll date and probably end up with someone, but not looking for that going in. Partly because I can hire a live-in housekeeper for $60-200/mo plus food. I get a home and meals how I want without compromise this way. Then date as I like. The best part was once I chatted with a couple of these foreign women I lost all desire to even talk to a woman in the US. I've had many great times with women in the US, they're great. But I like filet mignon more than chuck roast. I like chuck roast, but...
Am 6-5 single long hair X military X pro athlete college graduate don’t go on dating sites. Spend my time improving my golf swing
Omg, nowadays guys won’t even pay for a $16 salad!! I feel so bad for Jinah
1:05:22 But that's not what is happening. She is not striking out. She is overwhelmed, or perhaps too lazy, to begin going through all the options. Understandably frustrating, but also literally the opposite of striking out.
The real men that are winning are those not on these dating apps.
show analytics of how many likes peeps get and response rate right on there profile. It’ll kill the dream of baggin that hot guy real quick
35:55 that’s RSD (rejection sensitive disphoria)
It's a scam. It's designed to never match anyone with a good local person because that's how they lose money
Its not the apps fault. It the women. How tf is this confusing?
It’s much darker than Men think. -Women really only want relationships with the top % of Men. And, they all think they deserve that man. -Women don’t really want guys who like them back because it creates a value imbalance. -Women are under a delusion that they want to be pursued. They don’t, they want the Men they deem attractive and your pursuit only makes you look more needy and weak. -Even overweight Women w o other mans kids in tow think they deserve a top 10% man -Pay no attention to the female host saying your funny profile will win. She’s as delusional as every other woman. -Work out, get fit. Dress well, smell good. Your physique will stand out more than character or humor. It’s a bitter pill but it’s true
Gina looks 50+, face is a 4, is not feminine in attitude, and has fitness 7.5 out of 10. She thinks she is a supermodel who deserves a 0.1%er who will instead date 20 year olds.
1:01:24 if u cannot get dates in Boston u cannot get dates anywhere. My phone blows up (not as much as the female host) whenever I visit a big city. I’m in a 150k metro. The highest ROI are pro photos, dress, weight lifting and diet. Boston guy has DLV openers and pickup is probably going to take too much time for these guys. Boston has a chance if he works, but the Emmy guy might want to surf the nursing homes because he has a mountain to climb physically. Sarcopenia has moved probably too far.
I'm guessing the single moms are your bread and butter.
I'll be honest and say its never been easier for me as a guy - not quite top 10% but close'ish. I can't even imagine how easy it is for the guys in the top 1% or how difficult it is for the guys in the bottom 50%.
So many liars. Bro i bet you have never got a real match on a dating app. Stop larping ffs!
I get tons of dates on the apps after pro photos and six pack abs. I spend 10 hours a week lifting weights. I have a PhD in finance from an elite university. The problem is the quality of the women I get dates from post-divorce is awful. It’s easy to build a roster. It’s impossible for a guy to find anybody with an SMV within two deciles, most of the women I date are 30th to 6th percentile. Also the single sub mediocre women my age have insane standards and have forced me to focus on younger and younger women.
*30th to 60th.
Yes - that's my experience. It's much easier than it was to get a lot of minced beef but more difficult to get a fine steak than 15 years ago.
@@LinusWilson No guy gets "tons of dates" plz stop lying. Like bro even obese women out here swiping left on more guys than you think... cmon man! You cant even put "ab pics" on apps like Bumble & PoF!
I'm using dating apps as a way to see what's up in the neighborhood. Try to evaluate the situation and the market. Also get to see some nice bikini pics! Never pay or expect anything as a man in these apps.
People are not pets (who sit patiently in their basket for the next interaction and are subservient to your every need) or cars at the showroom which you can have if you have the cash to buy them! This bald middle aged man has reached an age where he will not compromise. So there’s no way he will ever have a deep long term relationship with a woman. He needs to make a lot of female friends with benefits (sex) and no expectations or commitments! Dating apps have been kidnapped by young single and married men who want to act like dogs and screw lots of needy women! Dating apps lie to women because they’re not going to find their soulmate on there because they are after a relationship as well as sex. Go back to the old school method of living your life and socialising and interacting with people you meet and are around you and see if your personal magnetism attracts someone who you get to know better. Some of the ugliest people are found to be very extractive in person because of their charisma. No all is going to help you discover that! Apps are just beauty pageants!
80 dates in a year??? Holy moly :O
Dating apps help us guys to deal with rejection. So i used to go out in real life, dress up, spend money at a bar and maybe get rejected by one or two women, but with dating apps i can get rejected by hundreds of women and i don't even have to leave home.
It’s always better to get off the apps, go out and meet people.
Women dating younger guys is considered woman power and they get comments like you go girl etc, but when a guy dates younger, women are like ewww you're having a mid-life crisis. I agree though with the energy needing to match just as long as women understand this can apply to men just as much as women.
I respect the topic but must say the guest puts me off by her absolutist comments.
Choosing signals is the only way guys … TRANSLATION…. Like the women that like you, makes things a whole lot easier.
Wrong!!! Men want relationships, and the woman dont. Be real
Facts 💯💯💯
Why?
Theres a certain profession that only go on dates if they're being paid. Kinda similar.
Interesting conversation. 😂
Your editing skills are on point! Superb work!
29:41 He found himself a cheerleader 😂
The future looks bright indeed for us Asian guys! Thanks in part to the new crop of awesome Asian actors like Simu Liu and Henry Golding who are breaking those terrible "16 Candles" Asian male stereotypes! 💪
So glad to see this topic finally covered!
14:52 but thats not irl tho.
You guys are in a really weird bubble. And i don't know what bubble but here in my country its not how the host present it.
Daniel saying "master-dating" made my day
I've always wished I could lie about my height but I know it's something that others could immediately tell was a lie! I always was honest and just tried to match with those that don't tower over me! 😂
If it’s “just” five dollars the other person should have no problem paying
Lol bro he's not into you take a hint. You're a moped. Maybe he'd like to ride you but he won't get caught with you😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nawww not bro complaining about her not paying at all 💀💀💀💀
if she can’t afford to buy her own coffee, then I wouldnt get involved with someone not financially responsible
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