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The McDonnell Douglas MD-11's Fatal Flaw Made it a Cargo Star! This airplane may have struggled as a passenger jet, but it found its true calling as a powerful cargo carrier. Discover the hidden secrets that made it a pilot's nightmare and a cargo airline's dream. Why did this supposed failure become a freight legend?
wonder if something like that would make a good drone...?
2:49... counter? Why does the animation show them rotating the same direction then
Love flying MD-11F's on flight sims when they have a good one available, it's usually a unique experience. Especially keeping it from bouncing down the runways, apparently something that was a feature in the real planes as well. I like flying the UPS livery because my Grandfather built avionics in the military and became a UPS driver shortly after
The full name of MD-11 is: Manufactured Defectively, 1-by-1. 😎
Wish trijets could come back 😢
Ass a passenger, I found it the best plane for long flights, both in business and economy. I must have had very good pilots, because difficult landing is new to me. Now that I know that it was not fuel efficient, I won’t miss it anymore.
I use to fly back and forth to the Far East back in the mid and late 70's. I always stayed clear of flying the MD-11.
Looking at the 90s and early 2000s, MD-11 was pretty much the only airplane its size class on the cargo market. Below it was Boeing 767-300 and Airbus A300, and above only the giants such as Boeing 747 and military planes like Antonov AN-124 and Lockheed C-5. Not until the end of the 2000s did cargo planes at similar size come around with A330-200F and Boeing 777F.
The Dodge Viper of widebodies.
It was very tail heavy and had a tendency to pitch nose up. I would have still preferred the L-1011 for it's smoother ride.
My first international flight to Brazil was on the MD - 11
Air Nederland?! Do you mean KLM?
I flew a lot as a field engineer in the lare 80's thru tge 2010's, dc 10 👍, md11 👎
It was great view to see many Northwest DC-10s and MD-11 parked in PHX
That fourth set of wheels is just bizarre!
0:21 1:20 “mcdonald” 😭😭
I can see cargo carriers using the MD-11 for another 100 years.
If they didn't make bigger planes that burn less juice nowadays they would. MD-11's themselves aren't ancient planes yet but they're based on planes that are certainly getting long in the tooth
My first flight was with an LTU MD11.
In early days it must have had a significant advantage not having to fly ETOPS routes over twin engine cargo carriers.
Leider hat Lufthanse seine MD-11 verkauft. Die letzten Maschinen wurden, soweit ich weiss, nur kurz bei Western Global geflogen und standen dann eine Weile ungenutzt. Ich hoffe, sie fliegen wieder
Do keep in mind that the MD11 was a Douglass DC-10 from after the merger - SAME basic design, some updates mostly to stuff like the electronics and engines, to try to keep it competative. But it still lost out on efficiency to the larger twin-jets that were starting to show up at the time, thanks to ETOPS rule easing. But cargo airlines are not as worried about squeezing every last cent, they can afford to use older LOW COST used aircraft.
First comment I've seen that addresses the change in economics that ETOPS caused. With the improvements in engine reliability, thrust and efficiency that occurred over the years, ETOPS was government recognition that a twin engine could be operated the the same degree of safety, with certain operating limitations, as a three or four engine design. So, if an aircraft operator can utilize a twin engine design, that operator will experience a significant costs reduction.
@@n1ydy It's exactly why the DC-10 family and the L-1011 both had low sale runs - the change to ETOPS rules meant that the "niche" they were specifically designed for disappeared before they sold enough copies to break even.
There are still cargo companies flying DC-3's wildly enough. Douglas/McD had some dogs over the years for sure but some of their damn planes have stuck around forever
I flew on one of these years ago, with KLM. Have to say I didn't notice anything bad about the landing, despite being nervous about flying on a non Boeing or Airbus aircraft. I also had no idea they were not that common for passenger services.
Hahaha weird.... A lot of old heads I know say "if it's Boeing, I ain't going" --- this saying going back to at least World War II
The way things are going right now with Boeing, the 777f will go bust before it even gets a chance to haul anything.
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I can’t be the only one who noticed then Twin Towers at 0:38?
If fuel economy is so problematic? Why can't they turn of 3rd engine while cruising? Or may be run only on 3rd engine while cruising?
I’m pretty sure I flew on a contracted trijet when my unit deployed to Iraq in 2009. Might have been an MD-11. It was some company that I’d never heard of before or since.
World Airways had some.
The best window seat in aviation is the jump seat behind the captain on the DC10/MD11. It is absolutely huge.
The bloodthirsty trijet who refused to die. Weird body but amazing computers that made it smart as hell. I miss it.
I hate these AI generated voices
So the lower fuel efficiency demands makes this less desirable for passenger planes, thus the price drops and the cargo companies are willing to take it on because they care more about size. Got it, this took way too long to say that.
Md-11 cargo crashes FedEx FedEx 80 FedEx 14
I agree the MD-11F is definitely a solid choice; but only on short to medium routes. Being less expensive than the 777F is effectively it's only advantage, as current 777Fs can do the same thing but with lower operating costs the further the flight goes. That extra fuel burn on the old McD is really going to hurt if you take it out too far.
Flew roundtrip STO-HON on a Delta DC-10 back in the 90s. It was an enormous aircraft and the flights had many empty seats. It was a bit noisy.
It’s because McDonnell Douglas sucks as a company and ruined Boeing
I got to fly on the KC10s
I flew the MD11 for over 16 years as captain. Great airplane.
Flew the MD-11 many times with SR and then LX, and twice with KL as well. They felt dated compared to an A340 or 777 to be honest, and the landings were harsh. But boy did they look cool! To this day I have a model of an LX MD-11 on my desk.
My first trip to Europe was on a Martinair MD11. I’m an air traffic controller at Memphis and we love MD11s for their amazing climb rate
Memphis is full of FedEx birds right? I bet you've seen an MD11 or two for sure
I lived in Memphis so I have a special place for the MD11s
Worked as a subcontractor for UPS as a ramp agent, and the MD-11 crews despised it, due to it often being delayed 1hr+ for about 3-4 days a week. They considered it a good day if it got off the ground without any delays. And over the last winter season I worked as a deicer, and these things were a pain if it was snowing, since you had to check the third engine intake for contamination, but to get close enough you needed one of the wing engines shut down so the truck could move into position. But despite that, they are always an incredible sight to see flying, and it's a shame to know their numbers are dwindling.
Not entirely sure about takeoffs and landings per flight hour. They fly both medium and long haul, just like they would have in passenger ops. But they still do have fewer cycles overall. One big reason for using older jets like these in cargo flying is simple: ground time. A jet on the ground makes no money. And cargo aircraft spend A LOT of time sitting. They have greatly reduced daytime schedules compared to airlines where they generally go 24/7 except for maintenance cycles and some overnights. I have been lucky to be able to jumpseat on the MD-11. It is quite a machine. Coasting out over the grass on the other side of the runway in that long nose before lining up and then the seriously steep initial climb is something else.
Some companies had issue with at least one version of engine built in MD11, at least before some upgrade fixed it : under specific circumstances, fan blades would crash against hauling at rotation. So a usual jokes under MD11 pilots asked where they were heading to was to answer : "Well -next waypoint of start place- and then we make a decision" For readers non familiar with aviation: it equates being asked by your neighbour where you are driving today to answer : "Well, until next road cross and then assess if my car may go further"
I recall one airline was unhappy with the MD-11 because they were promised performance that wasn't delivered. They wanted to fly from San Jose, CA to Tokyo non-stop but with that performance short-fall and runway length, they couldn't take-off with a full passenger/cargo load in San Jose. So they ended up flying to Oakland to get full fuel load and then fly to Tokyo. Cargo doesn't care about fuel-stops whereas passengers don't like it.
American Airlines
I actually flew American Airlines out of San Jose to Tokyo on an MD11 and it was a great flight. I do remember that I was surprised to see San Jose to Japan flights, but that service ended shortly after that. It was much more convenient than having to deal with LAX or SFO
Used to be working for the cargo office of Thai Airways Zurich, Switzerland, which was served with a daily turn around BKK-ZRH-BKK service, sometimes with extensions to both AMS and BRU with a fleet of four MD11s, registered HS-TMD/E/F and G. Although those were long haul PAX flights, the aircraft offered a good cargo payload capacity of 20 metic tons with a full PAX load for an eleven hour flight. We frequently were limited in the available volume in the cargo holds rather than by TOFW limitations.
I think the MD-11 was an excellent passenger aircraft. I flew it to europe many times from both LAX and DTW.
The md11 is decent and it runs well as a freighter though it had a massive issue from it’s theirs engine were it breaks itself Mid flight A lot of bad crashes occurred from it Like fed ex 14 Which landed to hard United airlines flight 93 ? Still have no clue what happened to it There’s a funeral for it in my city San jose
It crashed in a field because passengers fought back against Saudi hijackers.
The predecessor DC-10 didn’t do as well with passengers as a result of the Turkish crash near Paris (cargo door) and the AA crash at ORD (engine separation due earlier flawed maintenance procedure) Between the bad PR associated with the 10 carrying over to the 11, and more fuel-efficient twins, the MD-11 never had much passenger success.
I wish McDonnel Douglas was a separate company again. They built some of the greatest iconic jets ever. F-4, A-4, F/A-18, A-1, C-17, MD-11, DC-9/MD80/B717 (Yes the A-12 was a debacle) Convince me Otherwise....
F18 was made by boeing
@@gabrielquinones3343 Tha Fuh you say??!! Its McD from day one!
The MD-11 "Mad Dog" was popular because the cargo airlines could pick them up for a song, not because they were good planes. The line I worked for had a bunch of them and 15% of the legs were either delayed or cancelled do to mechanical issues. As a ground crew it was a nightmare to load & unload using a "step" unload it always involved standing around while another part of the cargo was unloaded to avoid tipping. The A-B doors were always getting stuck closed. In general they were awful planes that the company bought on the cheap. Financially it may have been a success for the companies, but it caused as many problems as it solved.