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Cocciopesto Lime Floors - Explained by the Architect
Cocciopesto lime floors are high-performance traditional Roman floors, a better performing alternatives to limecrete floors. Using the high thermal mass of crushed terracotta offers high thermal comfort using less energy. Nicolo Nigri architect explains the flooring project he did in his own house.
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More information:
romanlime.co.uk/cocciopesto-floor/
www.coreconservation.co.uk/plaster/massetto-caldo-mgn/
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Finished Crypt Project
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You can read more about the project here: www.coreconservation.co.uk/project/crypt-waterproofing/
Lime Rendering Workshop - from Masonry Repair and Consolidation to Rendered Finish
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Here is a quick overview of a recent practical lime workshop organized by Kind Supplies, teaching the application of some of the MGN Roman lime plasters. Products used in the video: Lime structural consolidation mortar - Betoncino Consolidante MGN Roman lime waterproofing plaster - Rinzaffo MGN Lime coloured render - Sanacolor 2000 MGN
Roman Lime Basement Waterproofing - Some Examples
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Here are examples of two difficult basement waterproofing jobs done in Italy, by MGN, the manufacturer of the Roman lime plasters, to show you what's possible with this solution. The MGN Roman lime waterproofing solution is the only heritage and listed building-friendly, lime waterproofing or lime-tanking solution, which can be safely applied in any old or listed building. Since 1980 it has bee...
Victorian Terraced Property Dampness Survey
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Victorian terraced property survey - findings and conclusions.
Lime Structural Consolidation of Old Buildings
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The Betoncino Consolidante MGN Roman mortar can be used as a lime structural reinforcement and consolidation mortar for all sorts of consolidation and repair works. It can also be used as a bedding or building mortar for various construction works. It is highly salt and water resistant, withstanding any harsh environment, offering long-lasting, durable repairs. More information here: www.coreco...
Stucco Marmorino Venziano - Authentic Venetian Lime-Marble Finish
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Marmorino Venziano is created from pure slaked lime mixed together with tiny marble particles - hence the name, meaning “little marble” in Italian. This classic 15th century finishing plaster developed in renaissance Venice, perhaps as a substitute for marble, is one of the most elegant, high-end and widely known finishes, requested by architects and designers worldwide. It is perhaps the most ...
Canapaterm MGN - High Performance Lime-Hemp Thermal Insulation
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This breathable lime-hemp thermal insulation, suitable for any old and new building, is special for 2 reason: - Very low thermal conductivity - High heat reflectance, creating high thermal comfort More information: - Product info: www.coreconservation.co.uk/canapaterm-mgn-hemp-thermal-insulating-plaster/ - Insulating old solid walls: www.coreconservation.co.uk/thermal-insulation-of-solid-walls/
The Crypt Waterproofing Project
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Waterproofing the service area of an old crypt with traditional Roman lime waterproofing plasters. Products used: - Rinzaffo MGN Roman lime waterproofing base plaster - Fondo Pozzolanico MGN lime tanking slurry to reinforce some of the leaking areas - Cocciopesto Dumidificante MGN main lime coat to regulate the internal humidity The whole system is lime-based and breathable.
Fondo Pozzolanico MGN - Lime Waterproofing Tanking Slurry System
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The FONDO POZZOLANICO MGN is a fine-granulation lime base coat. When mixed with the FISSATIVO P1 MGN liquid binder, the resulting product will result in a heavy-duty lime tanking slurry, known as the MGN Lime-Pozzolanic Tanking Slurry System. Once set, it provides a strong, long-lasting pressure-resistant waterproofing in a thin coat. Both ingredients are vapour-permeable and do not contain any...
Waterproof Lime Finishes for Bathrooms
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Waterproof Lime Finishes for Bathrooms 00:00 - Start 00:20 - 1. Applying the 1st Half of the Finishing Coat 00:43 - 2. Applying the 2nd Half of the Finishing Coat 01:25 - 3. Applying Pressure to Compress the Material 03:26 - 4. Preparation of the Soap-Oil Mix 04:35 - 5. Applying the Soap-Oil Mix for Waterproofing 06:16 - Final outcome: A Waterproof Breathable Lime Finish
Conservation Friendly Rising Damp Treatment
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Here is a building-friendly option for treating rising damp in old buildings.
How To Make a Venetian Pastellone Hard Lime Floor Finish?
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Pastellone is an ancient Venetian floor type. It consists of slaked lime, pozzolana and cocciopesto powder obtained from crushed tiles and bricks that increases the mechanical strength. The mixture develops a chemical reaction that gives the plaster hydraulicity (ability to mature even in contact with water) and high mechanical strength. The use of natural materials makes the floor breathable. ...
Roman Lime Floors- How They Are Made? A Hands-on Practical Demonstration
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Breathable lime floors are important for old and listed buildings. Here is how you can create a high-performant, energy-efficient breathable lime floor using traditional lime materials. Materials: Lime floor base: www.coreconservation.co.uk/massetto-caldo-mgn-traditional-lime-floor-screed Key moments: 00:00 - Start 00:06 - Lime Floor Types 03:00 - Floor Construction 03:59 - Longevity 05:03 - Ro...
Lime Thermal Insulation of a Farm Building
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Here is how to insulate old or listed buildings with breathable lime aerogel thermal insulation. Materials used: - Rinzaffo MGN Roman waterproofing lime base: www.coreconservation.co.uk/rinzaffo-salt-resistant-scratch-coat - Termointonaco 2020 MGN lime thermal main coat: www.coreconservation.co.uk/termointonaco-2020-lime-thermal-insulation-plaster - Termorasante Aerogel MGN aerogel-lime superin...
Water repellent traditional lime finishes
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Water repellent traditional lime finishes
Making High Performance Breathable Lime Floors
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Making High Performance Breathable Lime Floors
Solving Mould and Condensation with the Superinsulator AeroGel-Lime thermal plaster
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Solving Mould and Condensation with the Superinsulator AeroGel-Lime thermal plaster
The secret of long-lasting dry basements
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The secret of long-lasting dry basements
Breathability or Vapour Permeability of Old Masonries - Latest findings
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Breathability or Vapour Permeability of Old Masonries - Latest findings
Rising Damp - Mechanism, Research, Latest Findings
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Rising Damp - Mechanism, Research, Latest Findings
Magnetic DPC - Working Principle, Background, Research Data
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Magnetic DPC - Working Principle, Background, Research Data
Breathability Testing - Rinzaffo MGN Roman Waterproofing Lime Plaster
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Breathability Testing - Rinzaffo MGN Roman Waterproofing Lime Plaster
Victorian Building Dampness Survey - Diagnosis, Measurements, Solutions
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Victorian Building Dampness Survey - Diagnosis, Measurements, Solutions
Roman Waterproofing Lime Plaster Demonstration
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Roman Waterproofing Lime Plaster Demonstration
Victorian Basement Flat Conversion - Thermal Insulation and Waterproofing with Lime
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Victorian Basement Flat Conversion - Thermal Insulation and Waterproofing with Lime
Industry-standard moisture measurements of a damp wall (gravimetric analysis)
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Industry-standard moisture measurements of a damp wall (gravimetric analysis)
What Makes Old Masonry Crumble? It is NOT High Humidity...
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What Makes Old Masonry Crumble? It is NOT High Humidity...
Breathable Lime Plinth on Listed Building - A Traditional Alternative to Cement
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Breathable Lime Plinth on Listed Building - A Traditional Alternative to Cement
Excellent presentation, thankyou for sharing
which oil do you use with soap and in what ratio
he said natural soap and olive oil, 2 parts soap 1 part oil. But he didn't say if it's by volume or weight. If you look for tadelakt plaster online you should find other recipes.
Grazie mille! Che tipo di sapone usate?
Is it possible to use this technique outside?
Thank you!
Amazing waterproofing techniques!
Do you guys have a book available? I'd like to learn about theese plasters.
There are hundreds (thousands?) of house in Adelaide, Australia, north of the River Torrens that have rising damp. The ground there is salty and, despite the dry environment, moisture rises through the stonework and destroys it from the inside. Rising damp is real, though it's a lot rarer than the conventional, mainstream industry would have folk believe and their solutions are still not the answer for any old house. Let's allow space to discuss rising damp: how to properly identify it; how to assess its impact; and how to minimise it if necessary. That way, we can take the advantage away from those vendors who use it simply to sell pointless, damaging solutions. Core Conservation, clearly, should be allowed to be leaders in that discussion.
can you please go in more detail about these limebased coats? I have a similar situation below ground level. I'm not based in England
This man is a legend
He is just a listed building owner fixing his own home. :-)
Appreciate the tour.
I have to say that Peter ward is very good at his diagnosis and chemicals should an absolute last resort.
I agree with the second part, you are absolutely right. Re the first part, yes he is good at many things but misses the mark in other areas. If someone negates the existence of rising damp, a natural phenomenon, is obviously missing important diagnosis points. There is an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence about rising damp, some bits of data being shown here: www.coreconservation.co.uk/rising-damp-historical-context/
How is the insulation for the inside buildings? For making houses ?
I am forced to guess what you are using.... olive oil and olive soap?
Here we used linseed oil and soap.
I think it will be useful in Cornwall where sea sand was often used and we see salt growth and have been struggling with just the right application to combat it. I remember going past the building in Venice that you were referring to and wondering about what happened 🤔 so this helps me. Thanks 👍
You're welcome.
I really like that dust extractor. Thought it was a heater at first. I'm personally using the - Hold your breath, squint and run away for a few seconds after pouring out the bag. I prefer your method
Thanks for sharing. :-)
Seems nuts that so many damp specialists dont start with reducing the ground level, aiding breathability via lime mortar, clearing air bricks etc.
Yes, you are right, drainage helps with certain dampness related things but doesn't help with everything. The problem is not the water. You can drain water away or make it evaporate. The real problem are the salts. Salts bond humidity chemically and keep the buildings damp. So there is more than just water. More info here: www.coreconservation.co.uk/the-effect-of-ground-salts-onto-masonry/
Thanks for explaining so much and with excellent details 🎉
Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful
Thank you! Cheers!
I really wish I'd seen this video a couple of years ago. Have you tested this product over a long period?
The aerogel-lime plaster came out 2-3 years ago. However aerogel has been know for a long time, same as lime plasters. This is just a new, novel application of some well-known materials.
Thankyou for sharing Do you have a recipe for this please
Yes, how much soap and oil, and any specific types?
Will upload soon
Érdekes :)
Fascinating study of dampness and salts. Love the detail. One idea I've heard is that if capillary diameters in mortar are smaller than in stone, there should be pull of moisture away from stone and into mortar. So maybe soluable salts end up accumulating within the mortar and not stone / brick, in that case. Are there experiments that shed any light on this idea? I guess if this is true then over time salt accumulation within mortar would slowly reduce breathability anyway.
Historic England might have published some studies in this regards, I have been reading about this in the past. However, based on 4+ years of intense moisture research in-house I don't think things are that simple. Everyone seems to focus these days on capillary action of mortars and neglect the vapour phase. Based on our experience most of the drying occurs through evaporation and vapour movement, rather than capillary movement. There's definitely more research needed in this area as the phenomenon is complex involving many moisture transport mechanisms.
I received a recipe for plastering cob buildings using 1 to 1 lime and fine crusher dust (1mm) and a third clay ( with high level of bentonite) Not sure if this will harden under water but it worked all right for plaster. The plaster have to get lime washed and not painted with modern paint unless it is breathable.
I'm glad it worked for you. :-) As pointed out y you, cob walls represent a real challenge to regular air limes due to the high salinity of the (damp) cob. Just because a lime is breathable it does not mean that it will last long in the presence of moisture and salt. In our experience when the wall is damp and salty a regular lime plaster can decay very quickly. For these "heavy duty" scenarios you need different types of limes engineered to resist humidity and salts. We do have such lime plasters and can solve these issues even without using fine crusher dust (finely ground cement) in the mix, fully solving these problems with lime and natural pozzolans (volcanic sands) mixes alone.
Seriously interesting.Would never have imagined that a plaster could repel moisture like that
The Romans had an amazing lime technology and they were able to do everything with lime including things what we solve today with cement and modern materials. Some of this lime technology, especially the technology of natural pozzolans (volcanic sands and ashes) has been lost or forgotten over time, so by doing practical workshops and Italy and Venice, by learning from one of the Venetian Restoration Masters in person, we are trying to bring back and revive this technology, an important part of working with lime.
I find this totally fascinating - have a big old damp house built int the early 1900's which has had layers of work and cover up done over the years. Also a small property portfolio in which damp has been an ongoing issue. Would love to "crack" this problem - seems electro-static charge is one of many factors which feed it...
The role of electrostatic charges in the retention and movement on moisture is a new discovery and new field of study. Almost everyone out there "pitches" the concept that breathability solves all dampness problems. This is not the case. It does solve many problems, however removing the moisture barriers (e.g. cement) to make the wall fabric breathable is only half of the story. The other half is the presence and effect of electrostatic or electrochemical charges in the wall fabric. These can hold moisture trapped and reduce the breadability of the fabric. More info here: www.coreconservation.co.uk/drying-breathability-moisture-barriers/
A dry cellar has been treated to be dry as the very nature of a cellar means they will be cold and damp as the bricks reach a natural balance with the soil around them, hence why public houses have cellars where they keep Beer as it is a stable temperature due to the damp
A cellar is cold because of the evaporating moisture. Evaporation draws away heat from any surface cooling it down.
Most of the time its a wrong diagnosis for the cause of the damp.
I would probably say there are main reasons why dampness problems are not sorted: 1. Incorrect diagnosis; 2. Incorrect solution (even if the initial diagnosis was correct).
Wow. I really love this about youtube, and internet in general. You have put so much good work into this experiment and it´s really interesting and useful. And you made a documentary that i can watch in 10 minutes. One can learn anything through youtube these days.
Glad you enjoy it! Thank you.
Doesn't it rain in venice?
Yes, it does, like everywhere else. It also floods several times a year. And there are a slot of salts due to the presence of sea water. What was your point?
wow... thanks!
You're welcome!
Could this be a case of bogus science designed to sell a proprietary plaster treatment?
It is hard to argue with the Romans as some of their buildings have stood the test of times for 2 millennia and they were experts in lime and the technology of natural pozzolans (volcanic sands and ashes mixed to lime). Here is a link demonstrating the performance of the plaster: ua-cam.com/video/2EajpaPCYKI/v-deo.html But it's up to you what you use on a building.
Stephen Boniface, former chairman of the construction arm of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS), has told the institute's 40,000 members that 'true rising damp' is a myth and chemically injected damp-proof courses (DPC) are “complete waste of money”.12 Feb 2021
I think sometimes even experts need to check their facts to stay on top of their game. It's hard to argue with research data and facts: www.coreconservation.co.uk/rising-damp-historical-context/
can you explain what the damp proofing system you are going to use is? Sounds like you say an automatic DPC system? Thanks
A non-invasive solution for rising damp for old and listed buildings is the magnetic DPC technology: www.coreconservation.co.uk/magnetic-dpc-construction/
There is no denying that (some) bricks can absorb water in an upward trajectory but we have never constructed buildings to allow that to happen easily even before the advent of damp proof courses and cavity walls. In 27 years of diagnosing damp problems I have yet to recommend the drilling and injecting a chemical damp proof course or the hacking off of plaster and tanking a wall or plasterboarding over the affected area. Find and fix the cause of the water penetration and the wall will dry out naturally.
I agree with you. But there is more to it. Not water is the real problem but the salts, which water movement transports into the wall fabric. Once there, the whole breathability and natural drying concept will be significantly altered. More info here: www.coreconservation.co.uk/drying-breathability-moisture-barriers/
Your premise is that your device produces a magnetic field which weakens Van Der Waals forces between water molecules & salts / subrate within walls, and you propose to show an influence of your device equivalent to a change in magnetic flux within a wall on the scale of micro-tesla? Even if this premise held water(!) the energies required to effect such things at scale would need to be quite large.. lets have a look at what sort of power source would be needed to induce micro-telsa changes in magnetic flux at any appreciable distance (since magntism declines as 1/distance cubed it dimishes very quickly)... a quick google will tell you that 500kV electric power distribution lines will produce micro-tesla effects at a distance of say 30m, and that's without any physical structure in the way. Can we assume that your device does not require to be connected a small power substation?
No, this is not my premise at all and you missed the whole point on what the device does and how it operates. The device does not produce or outputs any magnetic fields. It actually does the opposite: it ABSORBS some (not all) magnetic fields in the building, decreasing the overall electromagnetic field level in the building - to put it simply. Some electromagnetic fields in the environment as they penetrate the walls, release some of their energy to the wall, increasing the walls' surface energy (or surface charges). A wall with higher surface charges traps more moisture. With the magnetic DPC we reverse this process, by reducing some magnetic fields in the building, reducing the surface charges of the walls, which allows water to evaporate out from the capillaries, where previously has been stuck. In other words, with this technology, we increase the breathability of the wall fabric.
Could this product be used internally in shower / wetroom areas? If so how would you recommend to use it?
Yes, it could however it has not been designed for that as it is a base coat that supposed to be covered up by a decorative coat. This finishing here is more suitable for bathrooms or similar applications: ua-cam.com/video/pltxLf1cfa4/v-deo.html
How does salt get into the wall if it is evaporation which wets the wall.
As far as I know, evaporation dries the walls, it's the primary drying mechanism. You can read more about the salt here: www.coreconservation.co.uk/the-effect-of-ground-salts-onto-masonry/
Is this product available in America? Can a non-glossy smooth finish be achieved?
Hello, I don't know about the American market. Yes, a non-glossy smooth finish can be achieved using other types of lime finishes.
Surely that new dpc system will eventually fail like the others before it. Wouldnt it be better to tackle the cause, probably by lowering the outside ground level, or separating it with a drainage channel?
Research has shown that rising damp is the actual cause. It is a standalone wetting mechanism that occurs independently of rainwater ingress of lack of drainage etc. Those causes can obviously make it worse, but it will occur without those causes too. This is difficult to prove in a real building as there are too many affects all affecting the walls at the same time. But it's easy to prove in a lab where these individual variables can be turned on or off independently. More info here: www.coreconservation.co.uk/rising-damp-what-is-it/
@@coreconservation Whilst i agree with the evidence you have shown, it comes down to which you believe to be the overriding factor. A combination of solutions can help, lowering the outside ground by digging a perimeter drain provides a surface for the moisture to evaporate away, rather than ingress from. It is a permanent aid to reducing damp. chemical dpc's and other solutions will always only be temporary, and usually rely on tanking plaster to hide its ineffectiveness.
The misunderstanding here is that it's not a problem that the wall absorbs water. It eventually goes away, comes back, goes away and on and on. The real problem is all of those other factors which make it much worse and very visible because it traps the moisture and eventually leads to spalling and other nasty things such as mould. Then, your drainage, lime plaster/mortar, lowering outside ground levels etc is what must be done.
Facilitating movement of water in the building by a measurable extent?
Yes, it does. Pretty easy to prove by industry-standard gravimetric (drilled core) readings.
Good to see that the system is vapour open, but how capillary active is it?
Thank you for your question. Why would that be important?
It is good experiment that tries to move the debate on from what people think they have observed to expreimental data. Obviously it needs to be replicated and more data obtained, but it is a excellent start. There is also a need to develop further experiments to test the impact of render on an external wall for example. Thank you for this.
Thank you for your comment. You are absolutely right: more research is needed as lots of debate on a topic means little actual data, lots of uncertainty and opinions.
Yes I very much want/need this recipe. I know of tadelakt but not this. Seems very similar.
We plan to have another video in the future explaining this concept in more detail.
It would be interesting to see how all of those three walls would behave in a very light wind, as from what I found out so far, the lime plaster is supposed to make the wall dry really well, but without wind the water is not picked up from the surface as well as it could From what I found out so far I would expect that the difference would be much bigger for lime plaster than for cement one
Lime indeed has a drying effect, but it's not water that keeps the walls damp but the hygroscopic salts. In the presence of salts the wall will not dry or dry significantly slower, with or without lime. More info here: www.coreconservation.co.uk/drying-breathability-moisture-barriers/
Once rinzaffo has been applied, which lime mixes do you put on top, macroporoso and then a finish or qill any lime mix work with rinzaffo? Cheers,
You can pretty much apply any lime mix on top.
Nice job. Appreciate this is a conservation approach but what I don't understand is how this system is going to stop dampness entering the basement at the base of the walls or under the floor? I think the Typc C drained cavity system offers the best solution against water ingress although its probably more expensive.
This plaster blocks the liquid water and allows the vapours to pass. So it stops liquid water similar to many other tanking systems. The problem of modern tanking systems is lack of vapour permeability. As a result moisture builds up in the wall behind the tanking, then starts moving upwards and sideways, making the fabric wetter, even if the surface looks dry. Based on my observation, many professionals tend to ignore water vapours considering these non important and only focus on liquid moisture. You have to understand both form of water as vapours will cause liquid moisture accumulation over time.
Thank you, this is a really clear explanation of the technology.
Hello, thank you for your comment. Science continuously evolves and some newer findings can be seen here: ua-cam.com/video/ULvZr3-Gqb8/v-deo.html
This is pretty amazing actually. Modern people seeing this do not appreciate. These floors still stand test of time round the world and do not allow damp to occur as modern concrete does causing a unhealthy environment. We need to start using limecrete again for floors.
Yes, the Romans had an amazing lime technology - some of it has been lost over time. They were able to do everything with lime and have built buildings and walls that have lasted for over 2,000 years, which is a testament to their skills and the quality of materials.
Would be interesting to see the work in progress and also the completed project to observe how successful the suggested measures turn out. Personally I would like to see a bit more of the diagnostic process explained as we are simply told that this is a case of "rising damp" - for example, some of the worst affected parts of the wall appear to be at or below ground level and could therefor be classified as penetrating damp. As a surveyor, whenever I am told that the issue is "rising damp" my response is often to ask how this was diagnosed (I like to see the evidence) and importantly were other possibilities considered and eliminated/remedied (eg poor external ground drainage etc) prior to concluding that the problem is solely rising damp. In other words was the investigation undertaken in accordance with Building Research Establishment Digest 245 - Rising Damp in Walls - Diagnosis & Treatment. Similarly to the medical model the process is Investigation, Diagnosis, Treatment.
Hi Alan, We have published a number of videos about surveying or diagnosing dampness problems in all buildings. Here are links to some of them. ua-cam.com/video/plujEsKRXzU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/oOFJYcdbwP4/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ce17b8cbxkk/v-deo.html