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The first 8 minutes of this touch on the way that episodes are kind of written from the theme outwards, which is amazing to me. ua-cam.com/video/SPJXLhtgrrg/v-deo.htmlsi=Hkj1VWuu14TJBbMj

The box being empty in the case of Jack (especially in the final scene of the show) is a good point to bring up because it ties back into another aspect of the mystery box. Lost has the message that the destination is equally important to the journey (the mysteries are equally important to the character study). Ultimately, the mystery box is 'empty' because the individual Candidate/viewer brings everything to it. This is something that Jack struggles with. The idea that whatever was inside the Box has already gone somewhere else is a level of uncertainty that many people can struggle with. But when Jack comes face to face with that something in The End (his father) he is able to reconcile and find closure.

@@polarbearhero9803 my thought is that the Monster is what we cork up in ourselves, for better or worse (mostly for worse). If you check out the evolution of the mystery box video (and the Let It Go Jack video) the answers in Lost are more concretely about the writing process of the mythology as opposed to concrete facts about why and how certain things are possible

@@paulofernandolevano9693 I don't know about you but when this explanation clicked, I felt like I always knew, but I just didn't know that I knew, you know? The answer is just THAT subliminally omnipresent.

@@gibby525 well I always used to tell my friends that Lost was a series about watching a series, and how you picture out the magic box is just amazing man, thanks for the rush i had watching these videos

It's also interesting that they found a way to cap off his important role within the mythology by having him die because he became too dangerously close to exposing the MiB with his realizations.

@@lastpme Yeah that doesn't make sense. He would've heard that trebuchet for sure.

@@lastpme If Sawyer had killed the Boar it would have created a rift between him and Kate (she was there watching), and that would have prolonged or derailed his long term path to redemption

@@gibby525ok…that makes sense.

I think so too

@@lastpme Mikhail had a glass eye at the Arrow, and was managing communications with the outside, to hide the Purge from the outside world, which required allowing Kelvin to get to his post at the Swan, instead of sending him back to the mainland after he shows up, sent there by an unsuspecting Dharma initiative on the outside.

Radzinsky could have ventured out to the arrow to see if there were any survivors, and likely found none

@@lastpme he got a little too excited about his loophole

It's so cringey

lol there's also a cool season 4 deleted scene where Miles can hear the sonar fence which fits nicely with everything else

Glad you enjoyed it!

What do you think mainly comprises wine? It's water. Chances are the wine was made on the island so it contains water from the island.

@@HDQuakelive Water is not added during the winemaking process. Any water in the wine comes directly from the grapes…wild grapes that would receive their water from rainfall. Unless, of course, you think Mother cultivated a secret vineyard and built an irrigation canal from the light infused water around the source. Now, where they got the yeast to add to ferment the sugar in the grape juice 🤷‍♂️

@@melrupinski88 and where does that water come from, the island lol. That wine does contain island sourced water.

@@HDQuakelive rain comes from clouds 🤷‍♂️

I never noticed the history being told in the tapestry before! I go back and forth on the timeline placement, but something visual like the history on the tapestry I find pretty convincing. Great point!

Definitely check out the other videos if you haven't because I go into this more. I think it's something the show is asking, and there isn't possibly a clear answer to: Are we just the sum of our memories or is there something else? If a perfect copy of Mother's or the MiB's memories can be transferred (or, to me, copied) to a cloud of some magnetized exotic matter or metal, that can replicate their old bodies to the cell, and their original body is left behind, are they technically still their selves or are they 'dead?' I would argue dead, and you would argue that they are not, I think. We don't see an indication of what happens to the MiB or Mother in a sideways, so we don't know when they technically 'died.' These theories are from a specifically materialist view point I guess, and I don't really disagree with you. There were other pieces from other videos that focus on the Monster becoming more like John Locke and Christian over time. This better explains 'Christian' taking Claire, or the Monster becoming more like Locke over time, eventually repeating his trick of c4 hidden in a back pack to destroy the submarine. Also Smoke Locke manipulates Ben into killing the one person Ben seeks the approval of, as revenge for Linus making John kill Anthony Cooper, the one person he sought the approval of. The Monster is struggling with its identity, but so was the MiB, and so was Locke, because aren't we all trying to figure out who we are?

There's a great quote about him that Terry O'Quinn said in the clip show before the Series Finale, that Locke was not a man of faith but a man in search of faith. He wanted to be able to believe in something so badly, in order to begin healing, that it made him an irresistible mark for manipulative people and/or forces.

This was the effect I was hoping for. This comment is much appreciated!

Travelin through time? Fuggetaboutitttt

It's so fun to get re-obsessed with the show

It is to some, yeah

Thanks a lot!

John cites that backgammon is the oldest in-show, but Senet is apparently older, according to googling around.

@@gibby525In the show, there are specific scenes about board games and Ben's conversation about some rules brings to mind a meaningful connection between them.

@@mohammadrezafaraji5623 "He changed the rules?"

@@gibby525 "And you'll wish you hadn't changed the rules"

I'm curious, what are your thoughts on the whole mystery box/Monster is everybody's flashbacks angle?

@gibby525 I don't know quite yet . I've seen a few different theories about. It's one I am lost about myself. But I would love to learn your opinion about if you think hurley seeing Dave on the island is really the man in black?

@@Lost.History- I think so, yes, mainly because of the sinister nature and because island Dave tries to get Hurley to kill himself. But it goes deeper too. Per Lindelof, self-forgiveness is the biggest theme in Lost, present even earlier than Faith & Destiny. Guilt is a uniting factor both in flashback stories and in Monster appearances, since Smokey is working against self-forgiveness & trying to elicit behavior that will cause more guilt (because Jacob's guilt, as current protector, is the overriding influence on Smokey until a replacement is found. The MiB is the symbol of his guilt, like Dave is for Hurley). Hurley saw Dave off-Island initially because he felt guilty about the deck collapse, and Dave was how Hurley punished himself (Dave pushing him to eat). On-Island, Hurley's decision to destroy the hoarded food, coupled with the food drop, allowed enough conflict within Hurley around this topic for the Monster to then manifest as Dave. He tells him "I'm part of your subconscious" and when Hurley is talking about the imaginary Dave being the most normal person in Santa Rosa, the Dr points out that Dave still doesn't want him to change. A very symbolic exchange. While the MiB/Monster's skepticism about the Island's purpose is 'normal,' it runs counter to their purpose on the Island, to change and grow beyond their past mistakes. Jacob is conflicted about human nature, which results in people being brought to the Island by the magic box, but also manipulated and endangered by the magic box, because of the memory of Jacob's shortcomings and doubts/fear that his late brother & mother are right about human nature. MiB/Monster as Dave is Hurley's guilt undermining his desire to change, something Libby supports. Love Dave, a really powerful episode.

So, thanks for watching & commenting, first of all. I looked at it as Christian's spirit for a long time, and I understand that is the common interpretation, BUT there are more Easter eggs and clues suggesting that it was the Monster appearing off-Island, through Jack's 'infected' mind. Character episodes were broken in the writers' room a few at a time, meaning that Something Nice Back Home was written with the plots of 316 and The Lighthouse in mind. 316 is when Hawking refers to Locke as a Substitute (for Christian) and the Lighthouse is about Jack learning of his Candidacy/purpose on the Island to stop the Monster. An interesting detail about off-Island Christian is that Jack is lured out to the lobby by a beeping SMOKE alarm. The second detail about this is that Christian is dressed the same as he was in White Rabbit (later explicitly confirmed as the Monster). A third reason is the sinister nature of this appearance, especially considering comments Damon Lindelof made in 2020 about Walt also being the Monster and the scary nature of any ambiguous apparitions. Is the sinister nature of appearances a more important uniting factor than later-developed 'rules' of the Monster's imprisonment (at the time of season 4 it was still the abandoned Cabin angle)? Is the reason they must return also because they have brought a small piece of the Monster with them into the outside world? If they all drank from cave water, and were all infected, did they risk spreading it beyond the Island? Is Michael's presence on the Freighter the source of the cabin fever (Smoky was Walt on the computer, and Libby, always the one guilting Michael, pushing him to make his initial mistakes then guiltily return to help Ben sabotage the freighter/trigger the loophole)? I have (hopefully) lots more videos to come on each character. I know a canon has formed around the show but I'm hoping to somehow shake it up.

@@gibby525Damon and Carleton also said “trust the story, not the storytellers”. Any theory must be consistent with what actually aired, whether or not it agrees with something the show runners said at some point in time (when the story wasn’t completely fleshed out or some outside force made them deviate from what they may have planned). According to show canon, the monster cannot leave the Island, so Christian in Jack’s waiting room simply cannot be Smokey. The smoke alarm is an obvious red herring, not an Easter egg. The writers loved to throw in misdirection (the whole flash-sideways started as a misdirection). I would also argue that it’s quite a stretch to say that because he was dressed the same as he was when he led Jack to the caves, and there is “proof” that it was Smokey. We know that Smokey lies to everyone in order to manipulate them: he lied to Richard, lied to Locke, lied to Claire, lied to Sayid, etc. It’s extremely hard to believe that the only time he actually told the truth when trying to manipulate someone was to Jack. I would actually go a step further (although it’s not a popular theory) and say that every time we see Christian in a suit, it’s his ghost, while every time he’s seen in in that old button-down shirt, it’s Smokey. To put it shortly, the times we know for sure it’s Christian, he’s wearing the suit; when we know for sure it’s Smokey, he’s wearing the button-down shirt. The appearances and interactions of Christian in the different outfits are qualitatively different. “Suit Christian” only appears to Jack, never speaks with him, appears at a distance, and no one else can see him. “Shirt Christian”, on the other hand, can be seen by everyone, appears in their midst, talks with and touches people. This clear difference points to two different entities.

Best answer was…. The Mr Echo actor didn’t want to be in the show anymore so asked to be written out

@@MuppetChopsthat too…