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Huntsman is such a wonderful hospital. My youngest son spent his last month there, all of Doctors and nurses treated us with such kindness.

Beautiful thoughts Edwin. You have much going forward you and your family. Love your videos.

God can't spell God does not know grammar God didn't know American Indians had Asia ancestry God doesn't know the animals that existed God didn't know the metal wasn't used in the Americas God likes white and delightsome God cursed the others who are not white and delightsome God said the other religions were wrong which is why the Mormons used the KJV as they like being wrong. And Joseph didn't write the book of Mormon, he spoke, others wrote. Some of what he spoke is from the KJV. Practically all of the BoM was preexisting. The race claims were common of the time. The Lost Tribe claim is common to the time. The link to Jesus claim is common to then and now. On and on it goes.

Amen brother!!! God bless you

Archeology with LIDAR in the Mayan territory, pre-Columbian writings (before the arrival of the Spanish), the names of various archaeological sites, the submerged cities and the similarity of the Mayan languages ​​and Nahuatl with Hebrew Sinai, Canaani and other finds are proof of the veracity of the Book of Mormon.

Archeology with LIDAR in the Mayan territory, pre-Columbian writings (before the arrival of the Spanish), the names of various archaeological sites, the submerged cities and the similarity of the Mayan languages ​​and Nahuatl with Hebrew Sinai, Canaani and other finds are proof of the veracity of the Book of Mormon.

You're first one was a lie. There have been doctrinal changes to the Book of Mormon. Many times Christ was changed from the Father to the Son. That's a massive change if you understand the difference between Traditional Christianity and Mormonism. Also names were changed like Benjamin to Mosiah. This was corrected after Benjamin was referred to after his death so someone decided it must actually be talking about Mosiah. 8 words were deleted from Alma 29:4. Ironically those words referred to making Gods decrees unchangeable. That change was necessary to justify the churches constant changing. 1 Nephi 20:1 had an entire phrase added to it. Where did that phrase come from? I wish the members would stop lying, it's especially hurtful to the youth.

The anti-Mormons have never been able to debunk the Book of Mormon. This is the reason they then turned their attention towards the Book of Abraham. Though however one by the name of Paul Gregersen debunked the arrogant Egyptologist opinions against Joseph Smith by presenting proper interpretation. Not a single anti-Mormon will admit to it though.

Antis don't need to prove Peepstone Joe's novel is wrong . The book itself does a good enough job

The complexity proves the authenticity of the Book of Mormon.

Yep. It’s called the existence of the Book of Mormon.

Mormon Church “growth” since The Book of Mormon was published….. in 2024, Active Church Members constitute about 1/2 of 1/1000th of The World’s Population…. After almost 200 years….wow

WHAT about all those people who have read The Book of Mormon and NOT received any kind of affirmative “Devine confirmation”???

“The things we believe in are true”…. DUH

“Faith”….”I believe”…. Thanks Ed for sharing YOUR feelings.

There are a few significant changes that have been made to the Book of Mormon "the Son of" added to 1 Nephi 11:18; 1 Nephi 11:21, 1 Nephi 11:32, and 1 Nephi 13:40. "or out of the waters of baptism" added to 1 Nephi 20:1. "white" changed to "pure" in 2 Nephi 30:6. Ed, these are SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES…. And just a few of them.

“57 days”…??? Ed, that is Joseph’s Narrative. There was at least 7 years between Joseph PUBLICLY claimed “Moroni” visit and publication of “The Book of Mormon”. So…. 57 days is just you repeating A Claim.

Amen.

First Edwin. I want to offer my condolences at the loss of your sister. Second. You are teaching of Christ and you understand the grace of Christ. Being only 30 years as a mormon. You have not lived the major doctrinal and temple changes of the church and God witnessing repentence to get the church back on the right track. I need to compliment you for trying to teach true doctrine and not being afraid of using the phrase mormon. Afterall, that is how it all begain. Those doctrines of the restoration that the church is silently and slowly changing as it realizes it has strayed from truth. God bless you.

The Irony of Evangelical Critics saying were Not Saved is this..."If all we have to do is Accept Jesus into our heart" then Latterday Saints are already Saved. This notion that were not saved because were supposedly trying to add to the "Finished work of Christ" is preposterous, and it gets even more absurd when my Family Members Pass away, and people start talking about how so, and so was saved because they remember one time my Mother accepting Jesus as her Lord and Savior... Meanwhile I join the Church...none of them can say that I'm not Saved, because I check all their Boxes...but they don't believe all Latterday Saints are Saved...Which is pretty stupid if you ask me...

I appreciate you brother. Love from NZ .

Hi Edwin. Thx for your videos. Im a struggling lds member berley hanging on. But i do like your videos

Thanks Edwin. Beautiful!! I see you already have two likes. I know one is Kris's. :>)

“The Antis say…..”. Ed, YOU ASSume

How would Joseph “know” it was going to be a Boy? 50/50 chance?

6:29 Ed, I was in agreement generally with you up to the point when you said the “Nauvoo Expositor” was filled with “a hellacious set of lies.” WRONG. The Problem for King Joseph and Hyrum was that it was ACCURATE!!! The Church spun The Narrative about the Expositor… I never read it…I thought it was Anti and Evil, THEN I found out it was very accurate… triggering King Joseph’s harsh and VIOLENT Order,

The “bountiful” narrative is compelling The statistics are irrelevant- you can move a decimal here or there or miscast any bit of data make it silly sometimes To paraphrase mark twain - there are three kinds of lies - Lies Damned lies And statistics Bountiful is compelling enough as it is

You will never have definitive proof and even if you do there will be just enough to doubt. YOU MUST CHOOSE TO HAVE FAITH AT SOME POINT! "If any man shall do his will he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God or whether I speak of myself" This video is not an all encompassing explanation or defense and the author doesn't seem to claim that either. If you think you'll find the entire truth in one video you have more to learn. Read the book itself if you want to get into it.

The anti-Mormons are trying to convince themselves that the Book of Mormon isn't true to justify their own standing. That is ift they convince themselves that the Book of Mormon isn't from God they can live their lives however they want and not have to account for themselves.

Apparently, it is "anti" to point out that the Church taught that the priesthood and temple ban was doctrine, not policy. The First Presidency OFFICIALLY stated in 1949 that the ban was in fact doctrine, and specifically NOT policy. This is fact. The Church todays denies that it was doctrine, but the Church then absolutely did believe it was doctrine.

Leonard Arrington and his proteges did excellent Church scholarship, and were censored by the Church leadership. Their findings, controversial for being contrary to official Church narratives, are now widely accepted by Mormon apologists and believing Church scholars. Were those earlier scholars "anti?"

Kris Murphy and other Antis Prove Joseph Smith is a True Prophet by the way they treat him according to Christ's WORDS. From Luke 6:22. Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake. 23. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. 26. Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. If Joseph Smith was a False Prophet he wouldn't have been executed by the well after being shot in the jail and falling from the window was stood up by the well and executed by a firing squad. This is what those like Kris who follow Satan do to true prophets. History shows Christ's words are true.

So the Book of Mormon is the word of God because Joseph Smith was too stupid to write it? Maybe you are stupid, Edwin Patterson. Joseph Smith was a genius bullshitter and you, Edwin, are stupid.

The anti-Mormons wouldn't waste their time on Joseph Smith if he was a false prophet.

The reason that some true-believing Mormons argue so frequently that Joseph Smith was a complete ignoramus is because they have a vested interest in avoiding education or academia. They want to talk out of their butts and pretend that it's divine inspiration just like stupid Joe who "couldn't possibly know" anything. Nothing in the Book of Mormon is outside the context of the worldview contemporary to Joseph Smith's surroundings. Go watch Dan Vogel instead.

Glad to see Edwin’s videos are having their intended effect on antis.

There's literally whole parts of the BoM that copy straight from the Bible . Literally 1/6 verses in the BoM are plagiarized from the Bible. So of course if a word is in the Bible, Joseph Smith would have seen and learned it from there.

This is the most disingenuous nonsensical video on UA-cam. This man has no morals.

If Joseph Smith made it up, he's still not 1/10th the writer of JK Rowling, JRR Tolkien, Stephen King, Dean Koontz, or anyone else who's good at storytelling. The BoM is an absolutely lackluster, uninspired, unimpressive work of fiction.

Joseph smith is a prophet from Satan. Galatians 1:8 English Standard Version 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.

Since Joseph extensively “borrowed” from Isaiah, it’s not shocking that something in Isaiah would be used changing it to plural.

Ed, wrong. Again your requirement is that Joseph Smith ALONE wrote The Book of Mormon. WHO claims that ???? “On his own” is YOUR theory.

Dictionary???

Yes there is proof. Jesus proved Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. 😇 But I have to disagree that all the antis are having a difficult time disproving it, Edwin. Kris Murphy can do anything!! 🤣

I find your characterization of these 'antis' as 'liars, deceivers, and fallacious sophists' to be incredibly distasteful. I would ask you to please be empathetic to the suffering some of these people have gone through as they were abandoned by their friends and loved ones on what, for them, was an arduous quest to seek truth and morality. Many of these people are trained scholars in their fields, and even more are driven by a very strong moral compass. In your failure to honestly engage with questions posed by real ex-members there is a potential for good people to be mislead by your words. As such, I would like to pose to you some of the actual questions and concerns I see ex-members asking as I understand them. According to the accounts, Joseph Smith began the translation of the Book of Mormon in the winter of 1828 and began in earnest by 1829. However, there is evidence that Joseph Smith was talking about the Book of Mormon and the stories within as early as 1823. With the assumption that the book is not of divine origin, this gives him a 5 year period of time during which he could have constructed the story, which would be much easier than to have done so in 60 days. In addition, the New York judicial system found Joseph Smith guilty of being a 'disorderly person', meaning that he was guilty of accepting money for fraudulent treasure digging, with the very same stone he claims to have translated the Book of Mormon with. Lastly, when the 116 pages were stolen, Joseph Smith was unable to re-translate them. The reason he cited for this was that the thieves would change the manuscript in order to try to make him look like a fraud. In reality, the thieves would have no reason to do this. If Joseph Smith was incapable of re-translating the pages, they had no need to change them. If he was, then he could do it several times and any changes to the pages made by the thieves would become readily apparent. In addition, conducting a forgery on such a massive scale would likely have been remarkably difficult and easily possible to expose. I hope I have presented a more accurate version of the concerns ex-members have with the proposed narrative. I can't say that I myself am an expert in this field, so any of what I have said is open to mistakes and misinterpretations on my part. I also hope I have made it clear in my account that I have no desire for deceit, nor do any of the ex-members to which you referred in this video.

I applaud the creator of the video in that he does try to present the critical claims. The following is a response to the claims and the video presenter's counter arguments. "The Book of Mormon was completed in 3 months". Not only should Joseph's work on the first 116 pages be counted into this calculation, Joseph was described in his mother's journal as concocting stories of ancient inhabitants since his childhood. Joseph had been working on these stories for several years. As far as the book being dictated in 57 days, it doesn't seem miraculous by any measure as a dictation and writing out the book of Mormon would take much less than 57 days. In addition, the text is littered with superfluous phrases, verses and even chapters that wouldn't have made sense to painstakingly etch into metal plates. Another point is that a sizable portion (~15%) of the Book of Mormon is nearly identical to the KJV bible (which is an enormous problem in of itself). Joseph didn't have to prepare at all to dictate this content. "There is very little editing in the Book of Mormon". This is simply not true. There were thousands of edits from the original manuscript including crucial edits including accidentally killing off King Benjamin when he was already dead. The book was also edited to fit Joseph's evolving view of the Godhead. "Joseph used The View of the Hebrews as a guide to create the Book of Mormon". I haven't seen any critical scholar state this. What the View of the Hebrews DOES show is that basic plot line of the Book of Mormon was certainly floating around in Joseph's milieu. That plot line being an ancient middle eastern migration to America with two warring factions and the winning faction being the ancestors of native Americans. Other than the basic plot line, there isn't any critical scholars that suggest Joseph copied from that text. There is, however, proof of other occasions that Joseph took ideas created elsewhere and claimed them as his own. Take for instance his generous "borrowing" from the Adam Clarke bible commentary to create the Joseph Smith Translation of the KJV bible. "Joseph picked up after breaks in his dictation to pick up exactly where he left off". The idea that Joseph wouldn't at least get a summary of what was written down actually contradicts other witness claims that Joseph would ensure that the scribe was spelling things correctly. Why would Joseph trust that the scribe got the last couple sentences correct before the break when he didn't trust them to spell words correctly? Either Joseph completely trusted the scribes or he didn't. Apologists seem to want to have their cake and eat it too with this claim. "[Critics] don't mind being liars, they just want to tear the book down". This seems weird because the presenter hasn't actually showed any actual lies. Theorizing about how Joseph created the book isn't a lie. A lie would be saying something like, "I don't practice polygamy" when you have over 30 wives. "Joseph knew the bible extremely well". I'm not sure why the presenter is disputing this. Even faithful apologists admit this. Even from the church website, it says "An examination of the major published collections of [Joseph's] teachings yields more than 400 references to the Old Testament. ... it is noteworthy that only 6 of the 39 books in the Old Testament are not found in his words, suggesting that the Prophet was well acquainted with the entire Old Testament." "Joseph would often tell stories about ancient Americans". This is verified in Lucy Mack Smith's autobiography on page 85. It says, "During our evening conversations, Joseph would occasionally give us some of the most amusing recitals that could be imagined. He would describe the ancient inhabitants of this continent, their dress, mode of travelling, and the animals upon which they rode; their cities, their buildings, with every particular; their mode of warfare; and also their religious worship." "No book like the Book of Mormon has been created since". Sorry wrong again. James Strang translated his "Voree" plates. In any case, it doesn't really matter HOW the book came to be when there is extremely compelling evidence that the Book of Mormon is fictional. The civilization that is described doesn't even begin to line up with archaeologists have discovered. They developed different technologies, cultivated different crops, domesticated different animals, believed in different deities, and had different DNA. The devastating anachronistic elements described in the Book of Mormon precludes it from serious investigation. For example, if a journal was found that was claimed to have been written by Abe Lincoln but it mentioned automobiles, there would be no point in discussing how the journal came to be.

I believe Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon the way he said he did… even though it’s self-contradictory.

"Fallacious sophistry" is such a great way to describe this video. Go talk to some "antis" and learn their perspective before you cover them with straw.

Why is it such a spectacular failure? Less than 1/10 of 1% of the Earth's population mormon? Almost nobody sees it as credible.

I'm formerly LDS. The notion that the people of South America were descended from inhabitants of the Middle East was a popular notion at the time and certainly not unique to Smith. I don't believe Smith wrote it alone - I believe a fair amount of it was plagiarized from a variety of sources including the King James Bible. I believe after the Book of Lehi was destroyed that Smith invested more effort in a general outline so that he couldn't be caught in any inconsistencies. As to the allegations regarding non-believers and morality - I would posit, Mr. Patterson, that my own morality and worldview are more coherent than your own. My ethos requires no appeals to the supernatural nor rewards of eternal reward or threats of punishment. It only requires accountability to my fellow man and the self-respect required for philosophical consistency. I hope someday you find the same self-respect that demands integrity and consistency for yourself.