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A Brief Guide to Pre-Tolkien Fantasy | Part II
For Part II, we'll take a look at the type of fantasy that was published in pulp magazines in the early 1900s. Here is what can perhaps be considered the beginnings of fantasy as a distinctive genre that has its own identity, with many of the tropes, styles, and subgenres that we know today already existing in some form before The Lord of the Rings had even come into print.
Bibliography: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRZpkDz2A0jBLlXHkjHSgjIHN51gY8-jW8QBkSGJ6frGwDPw4GKQRXl7EsngKcvgA/pubhtml
Script: docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSqhqDLkyTM4PFGgsXwX-dE-CwPbeVB5TA5bXAMS6xUYULoJpOrVSLaX4CnTAXdiA/pub
Weird Tales archive: www.reddit.com/r/Lovecraft/comments/d7za76/a_complete_archive_of_the_first_run_of_weird/
Unknown Worlds archive: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16harsD-3s0r-l6qKmtsLUOmmXPX8W6uAibpIVqjl60w/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Timecodes:
0:00 Introduction
3:15 Edgar Rice Burroughs
8:33 A. Merritt
10:53 Weird Tales
1:02:11 Unknown Worlds
1:24:48 Fletcher Pratt
1:44:42 L. Sprague de Camp
1:53:15 The Dying Earth
1:57:14 Poul Anderson
2:06:56 Conclusion
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A Brief Guide to Pre-Tolkien Fantasy | Part I
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You've heard all about J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, but how about the stories of Lord Dunsany? Or E.R. Eddison's The Worm Ouroboros and Zimiamvia? Or Hope Mirrlees's Lud-in-the-Mist? As much as Tolkien gets credited as the father of fantasy, there were several authors in the decades prior to The Lord of the Rings who wrote comparable stories about magical, invented worlds. Without th...

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  • @Handle35667
    @Handle35667 8 годин тому

    We get it you think everyone is an -ist.

  • @Handle35667
    @Handle35667 9 годин тому

    Seems your sensibilities may be too delicate to form a credible opinion.

  • @neelharrison3439
    @neelharrison3439 9 годин тому

    I gotta say, I absolutely love The Night Land. It is so unapologetically weird. It revels in feeling anachronistic, with its king james bible style prose feeling just out of place for its contemporary readers as it does for us. The characters are weird, the writing is strange to say to the least, but it so imaginative. I've always imagined The Night Land as something that could be molded into a terrific tabletop setting.

  • @leanandpip
    @leanandpip 15 годин тому

    algo

  • @quitwastinmytime
    @quitwastinmytime 17 годин тому

    There are many, but the Worm Ouroboros is definitely one of my favorite novels. There is an entire greek tragedy built into to sotry of Witch Land - delivered in prose, no less - that rivals any ancient story. Corinius may be both the most useless and most epic character ever created, and died maybe the most useless but epic death ever written. It''s such a work of genius that I have long thought about editing the work because there is plenty that is simply hard to read among all the incredible writing.

  • @muscovyducks
    @muscovyducks 22 години тому

    pretty cool

  • @siphonophone
    @siphonophone 23 години тому

    This is such a great video, tysm

  • @commanderstark5932
    @commanderstark5932 День тому

    36:00

  • @mladenhadzic1429
    @mladenhadzic1429 День тому

    1:27:41

  • @RoabertG
    @RoabertG День тому

    I had been exposed to some of these authors through the Old-School Roleplaying Game scene, notably Dolmenwood by Necrotic Gnome cites a lot of these authors as inspiration. I tried diving into a few of these books like Gormenghast, The King of Elfland's Daughter, and some smaller works. But I found them all pretty underwhelming

  • @mooo_cow
    @mooo_cow День тому

    can we get the post Tolkien fantasy guide?

  • @majkus
    @majkus 2 дні тому

    Morris's "The Sundering Flood" is in a different world and is one of the first fantasy novels with its own map.

  • @abhinandannandan3863
    @abhinandannandan3863 2 дні тому

    You are absolutely cooking

  • @delphinazizumbo8674
    @delphinazizumbo8674 2 дні тому

    Night Land is pure anime

  • @sleepin9713
    @sleepin9713 3 дні тому

    a sequal to a personal favorite. YAY!!!

  • @Peacuch
    @Peacuch 3 дні тому

    YEEES IM SO HAPPY! I watched the first one like 2 seconds ago and thought “god I hope part 2 is out…” and WOOOOOO WE’RE BACK! WE ARE SO BACK!

  • @Etrehumain123
    @Etrehumain123 3 дні тому

    Mh.

  • @taraskashuk1069
    @taraskashuk1069 4 дні тому

    Доля гірка як кінець огірка це розйоб🎉

  • @heartsfear9216
    @heartsfear9216 4 дні тому

    Bro really said and i quote, Fjounder of Fjantasy 💀💀💀

  • @der2wq_124
    @der2wq_124 4 дні тому

    i opened this to play on the background while i clean my apartment just to end up taking notes. this is so good, i'll definitely check bibliography. keep it up man

  • @argotheslicer1654
    @argotheslicer1654 5 днів тому

    The wise sage returns

  • @PhantomTrident
    @PhantomTrident 5 днів тому

    12:41 Isn't it pronounce "Day-gon"? That's how I always heard it.

  • @adventuringwolf8517
    @adventuringwolf8517 5 днів тому

    I cannot overstate my appreciation for this series. I had been reading up on Lovecraft's contemporaries for inspiration for ideas for world building and other things. Having a curated list of authors with added context to their work is immeasurably helpful to this end. I'm happy that I now know of authors such as Mervyn Peake and Poul Anderson now and can read their books. I hold vast respect for your research of these foundational stories.

  • @renedog23
    @renedog23 6 днів тому

    Shotgunned the whole two parts rn. Really do want to expirment more. Already knew alot of pre fantasy and pulp. Read a few Clark of and kf Lovecraft. But now i know much more. Was wondering about how Don Quixote or thr King in Yellow would honestly fit in. Especially given the latter's influence on Lovecraft and his circle. Or you know. The the warhammer crowd and its beginings in its fantasy setting too. Or just more of Lin Carter

  • @CyberCaliber
    @CyberCaliber 6 днів тому

    THANK YOU FOR THIS. I've been wanting to learn more about pulp era

  • @PhilEräreikä
    @PhilEräreikä 6 днів тому

    God I can't listen to this voice.

  • @delphinazizumbo8674
    @delphinazizumbo8674 6 днів тому

    L. Frank Baum's Oz series from 1900

  • @delphinazizumbo8674
    @delphinazizumbo8674 6 днів тому

    Cyrano's "L'Autre Monde: les États et Empires de la Lune (The Other World: The States and Empires of the Moon", 1657

  • @tyconnolly
    @tyconnolly 6 днів тому

    Also it's MER not MURE so MERcury

  • @tyconnolly
    @tyconnolly 6 днів тому

    The way you said founder makes my brain itch 😂

  • @Don_terrenos
    @Don_terrenos 7 днів тому

    Great video, awful thumbnail 😬

  • @cashiusCon
    @cashiusCon 7 днів тому

    yessir

  • @whitehawk4099
    @whitehawk4099 7 днів тому

    The weird of pulp worlds fantasy

  • @hopefulhyena3400
    @hopefulhyena3400 7 днів тому

    Please don’t try to do accents

  • @hopefulhyena3400
    @hopefulhyena3400 7 днів тому

    I’m astounded by how many of these names you mispronounce

  • @d.saunders2506
    @d.saunders2506 7 днів тому

    Tolkien stole from king Arthur Legends and Norse Mythology and gets a lot of their credit.

  • @HenryJames-w8e
    @HenryJames-w8e 7 днів тому

    Two videos, 5k subs, almost 300k views. Keep up the good work.

  • @Maguolagan
    @Maguolagan 7 днів тому

    This video keeps showing up in my recommended. The thumbnail reads “Fantasy Before Books: The Lord of the Rings” I think a bit more spacing between the text on the thumbnail would’ve been much better

  • @sdfitz65
    @sdfitz65 7 днів тому

    Amazing. Both this and part I are excellent and so comprehensive! You mentioned Moorcock and you included a cover of a Zelazney book, "the new wave" of the 60's and 70's... Two of my favorites. For matter, I wonder what's your take on the Dark Souls video games, since you mentioned Japanese fantasy. Anyway, looking forward to more of your excellent videos. Thank you!

  • @KyalJames
    @KyalJames 7 днів тому

    >be me first video >"this guys voice is gay i'm not going to watch this" >be me second video >"let's fucking goooooo"

  • @natanoj16
    @natanoj16 8 днів тому

    As a kid I read a Danish Series from the late 1980-90s It is called 'Alex på eventyr' (Adventures of Alex) and is set in 'present day Denmark' but present day at the time. I call it my introduction to fantasy, urban fantasy, and Sci-fi ^_^ I cant decide on the actual genre, and it isnt important for me ;)

  • @natanoj16
    @natanoj16 8 днів тому

    I wonder how easy it is to get Lord Dunsanys stories as Audiobooks (probably easy)

  • @unnamedmuffin
    @unnamedmuffin 8 днів тому

    Based Burroughs! 😎👍

  • @bobisoft2k5
    @bobisoft2k5 8 днів тому

    The Weird of Worlds Pulp Fantasy?

  • @MrShanester117
    @MrShanester117 8 днів тому

    The lord of the rings trilogyyyyy. That turned out to be a cash cowwwww. The decided to get some money for themselvesssss.

  • @aryman6589
    @aryman6589 8 днів тому

    I'd like to ask, is there a single author here who is wholeheartedly not inclined to racism and rape?

  • @jameswestermeyer2753
    @jameswestermeyer2753 8 днів тому

    This is epic

  • @aryman6589
    @aryman6589 8 днів тому

    >make pulp fiction to make communism look bad >name the good guys KKK >author is a racist confederate veteran classic

  • @aryman6589
    @aryman6589 9 днів тому

    too much anglo-saxon bias here, there's loads of writing that truly predates this stuff.

    • @d.saunders2506
      @d.saunders2506 7 днів тому

      It doesn't count until white man says so, apparently

  • @aryman6589
    @aryman6589 9 днів тому

    Eddison hating on fascism only to propose an anarcho-capitalist reactionary return to medieval Iceland is hilarious. He's just as fascist, just a different fascism is all.