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Thank you for visiting our channel! We are two Korean gamers who love to play variety of RPG games. We want to play, enjoy, test, share great games we experience and provide useful information to people who are willing to play. In 2022, we are looking forward to play games such as Lostark, DokeV, Last epoch, and blue protocol. If there's a game you want us to find out, please let us know. We'll keep up to provide better quality of videos. Have a great week!
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Video editing, Thumbnail : Mandu (김태훈 / juny5821@naver.com)
Recording, Script writing : Sukbakji (박지환 / pjh000528@gmail.com)
May Balance Patch in Lost ark - 2024. 5. 8
Lost ark March Balance Patch - 2024. 5. 8
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00:03 Warrior (Berserker, Destroyer, Gunlancer, Paladin, Slayer)
01:02 Martial Artist (Glaivier, Breaker)
01:17 Gunner (Deadeye, Artillerist, Sharpshooter, Machinist, Gunslinger)
02:25 Mage (Arcanist)
02:35 Assassin (Deathblade, Shadow hunter)
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00:03 Warrior (Berserker, Destroyer, Gunlancer, Paladin, Slayer)
01:02 Martial Artist (Glaivier, Breaker)
01:17 Gunner (Deadeye, Artillerist, Sharpshooter, Machinist, Gunslinger)
02:25 Mage (Arcanist)
02:35 Assassin (Deathblade, Shadow hunter)
02:51 Specialist (Aeromancer
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[Lost ark] 2024 Destroyer Guide - Practical Class Guide
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[Lost ark] 2024 Destroyer Guide - Practical Class Guide 00:00 Intro 00:11 Gravity Training Build 00:57 Gravity Training Tips 01:45 Gravity Training Gems 01:50 Gravity Training Rotation 02:23 Gravity Training Engravings 02:57 Gravity Training Elixirs 03:57 Rage hammer Build 04:44 Rage hammer Gems 04:49 Rage hammer Rotation 05:48 Rage hammer Engraving 06:19 Rage hammer Elixirs 07:02 Outro
[Lost ark] 2024 Breaker Guide - Practical Class Guide
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[Lost ark] 2024 Breaker Guide - Practical Class Guide 00:00 Intro 00:37 Brawl king storm Build 01:51 Brawl king storm Gems 01:56 Brawl king storm Rotation 03:04 Brawl king storm Engravings 03:45 Brawl king storm Tips 04:19 Brawl king storm Elixirs 04:31 Asura’s path Build 05:00 Asura’s path Gems 05:05 Asura’s path Rotation 06:04 Asura’s path Tips 06:13 Asura’s path Engraving 06:40 Asura’s path ...
[Lost ark] 2024 Striker Guide - Practical Class Guide
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[Lost ark] 2024 Striker Guide - Practical Class Guide 00:00 Intro 00:07 Deathblow Build 00:43 Deathblow Tips 01:23 Deathblow Gems 01:29 Deathblow Rotation 02:24 Deathblow Engravings 02:58 Deathblow Elixirs 03:11 Esoteric flurry Build 04:28 Esoteric flurry Gems 04:32 Esoteric flurry Rotation 04:57 Esoteric flurry Engraving 05:52 Esoteric flurry Elixirs 06:12 Outro
March Balance Patch in Lost ark - 2024. 3. 6
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Lost ark March Balance Patch - 2024. 3. 6 00:00 General 00:14 Warrior 00:33 Martial Artist 00:45 Gunner 00:52 Mage
[Lost ark] 2024 Wardancer Guide - Practical Class Guide
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00:00 Intro 00:21 Esoteric enhancement (Main) Build 00:52 Esoteric enhancement (Main) Gems 00:56 Esoteric enhancement (Main) Rotation 01:40 Esoteric enhancement (Main) Engravings 02:10 Esoteric enhancement (Sub) Build 02:33 Esoteric enhancement (Sub) Gems 02:38 Esoteric enhancement (Sub) Rotation 03:30 Esoteric enhancement (Sub) Engraving 03:14 Esoteric enhancement Elixirs 03:38 First intention...
[Lost ark] 2024 Deathblade Guide - Practical Class Guide
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New Dethblade Guide after the balance patch - 2024 Lost ark 00:00 Intro 00:52 Surge Build 01:33 Surge Gems 02:02 Surge Rotation 02:50 Surge Engravings 04:26 Surge Elixirs 05:00 Remaining Energy (Instant Cast) Build 05:32 Remaining Energy (Instant Cast) Gems 05:37 Remaining Energy (Instant Cast) Rotation 06:14 Remaining Energy (Instant Cast) Engraving 06:46 Remaining Energy (Supercharge) Build 0...
[Lost ark] 2024 Reaper Guide - Practical Class Guide
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New Reaper Guide after the balance patch - 2024 Lost ark 00:00 Intro 00:50 Thirst Build 01:28 Thirst Gems 01:34 Thirst Rotation 02:09 Thirst Engravings 02:46 Thirst Elixirs 02:56 Lunar voice Build 03:40 Lunar voice Gems 03:45 Lunar voice Rotation 04:11 Lunar voice Engravings 04:51 Lunar voice Elixirs
[Lost ark] 2024 Scrapper Guide - Practical Class Guide
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New Scrapper Guide after the balance patch - 2024 Lost ark All the details (Build, Gems, Elixirs...) are inside the video, don't miss them :) . . . 00:00 Intro 00:43 Taijutsu 01:31 Rotation (Taijutsu) 02:28 Engravings (Taijutsu) 03:11 Shock Training 03:55 Rotation (Shock Training) 05:10 Engravings (Shock Training)
2024 Lost ark - January Balance Update (NA/EU)
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There are important tripod changes. So please check them out at link below. January Balance Update (Summary File) : docs.google.com/document/d/1kP8GoatF6IRJb49BkuduVDWu0xNJdrS0/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=101865503705138911358&rtpof=true&sd=true 00:00 Intro 00:07 General 00:14 Warrior 02:19 Martial Artist 06:20 Gunner 07:44 Mage 08:49 Assassin 11:51 Specialist
Best Elixir Strategy of KR - 2024 Lost ark
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Best Elixir Strategy of KR - 2024 Lost ark Elixer Recommendation for All Classes : ua-cam.com/video/BXbxaZI64Yk/v-deo.html 00:00 Intro 00:32 Options in the beginning 00:38 Order options 01:01 Chaos options 01:25 Basic Rule 02:02 Seal option 02:58 Basic tactic #1 03:39 Basic tactic #2 04:12 Advanced I-I 04:27 Advanced I-II 04:28 Advanced II-I 05:04 Advanced II-II 05:15 Advanced III 05:47 Outro
Small balance patch in Lost ark - 2023.12.20
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Small balance patch in Lost ark - 2023.12.20 There was a small balance patch before January. Check them out before the patch arrives :) . . . 00:02 Warrior 00:17 Martial Artist 00:42 Gunner 01:17 Mage 01:39 Assassin 02:08 Specialist
Elixir Recommendation for All Classes - 2024 Lost ark
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Elixir Recommendation for All Classes - 2024 Lost ark 00:00 Intro 00:15 Pants 01:09 Chest piece 01:41 Glove & Helmet 02:41 Summary
2 min Guide - Gargadeth Guardian Raid
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2 min Guide - Gargadeth Guardian Raid Raid will be easier than ever after watching the video! . . . 00:04 Battle items 00:15 Main pattern 00:58 Tip 01:18 Important pattern 01:50 Counterattack pattern
Voldis abyssal dungeon Gate 4 Guide (Ivory tower) [Normal/Hard]
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Voldis abyssal dungeon Gate 4 Guide (Ivory tower) [Normal/Hard] . . . 00:05 Short summary 00:25 Basic term 00:44 160) Mirror & Stagger 02:14 Tips 02:39 110) Fake or Real (Counterattack) 03:55 Tips 04:11 60) DSG (Destruction / Stagger / Guardian) 06:22 Tips 08:49 Counterattack pattern 09:15 Basic pattern 12:28 Outro
Voldis abyssal dungeon Gate 3 Guide (Ivory tower) [Normal&Hard]
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Voldis abyssal dungeon Gate 3 Guide (Ivory tower) [Normal&Hard]
Voldis abyssal dungeon Gate 1 and 2 Guide (Ivory tower) [Normal&Hard]
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Voldis abyssal dungeon Gate 1 and 2 Guide (Ivory tower) [Normal&Hard]
Changes in Lost ark KR after 5th anniversary live stream - 2023. 11. 7
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Changes in Lost ark KR after 5th anniversary live stream - 2023. 11. 7
S~A tier list after the balance patch - 2023 Lost ark
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S~A tier list after the balance patch - 2023 Lost ark
Updated Brelshaza Gate 3 Guide (Normal and Hard)
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Updated Brelshaza Gate 3 Guide (Normal and Hard)
Additional balance patch in Lostark - 2023.10.18
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Additional balance patch in Lostark - 2023.10.18
Big balance patch in Lostark - 2023.10.13
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Big balance patch in Lostark - 2023.10.13
Lostark season 2 Yoz jar skins - 2023 Lost ark
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Lostark season 2 Yoz jar skins - 2023 Lost ark
Updated Brelshaza Gate 2 Guide (Normal and Hard)
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Updated Brelshaza Gate 2 Guide (Normal and Hard)
Updated Brelshaza Gate 1 Guide (Normal and Hard)
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Updated Brelshaza Gate 1 Guide (Normal and Hard)
Brand new season 3 Yoz jar skins - 2023 Lost ark
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Brand new season 3 Yoz jar skins - 2023 Lost ark
Advanced Soul eater Guide - 2023 Lost ark
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Advanced Soul eater Guide - 2023 Lost ark
Lostark Thaemine normal gate 3 Artist gameplay
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Lostark Thaemine normal gate 3 Artist gameplay
Lostark Thaemine normal gate 2 Artist gameplay
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Lostark Thaemine normal gate 2 Artist gameplay
Lostark Thaemine normal gate 1 Artist gameplay
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Lostark Thaemine normal gate 1 Artist gameplay
I love the way this guide is laid out. Graphics were great and explanations were so nice. I play 22 classes, I would love one of these for each of them.
Spincutter>deathsentence>maelstrom>blitzrush>soul absorber>void strike>earthclaver>Z
*too bad dc reboot is kinda mid :(*
for DB striker you can go: shattering blow + lightning whisper > spender, moon kick + tiger dance > spender, sweeping kick + sky shattering kick > spender
Can you make a KR tier list on new ark passive classes please?
What is the background music to the majority of the video called?
Souleater... yikes. But the weapon +1
good guide, not beating around the bush
Is this guide still ok ?
This video is amazing thank you so much!
pronounce the words clearly when you speak, please ... i can easily understand accents like southern american or irish, but i can barely undestand what you say -_- say
What’s with dominion😅? I would use additional damage with crit rate set for full swift wardancer with 4pcs dominion and 2pcs nightmare or am I wrong?
What rotation for surge raid captain?? 3:23
Great video, thank you!
very helpful video. thank you so much for creating this guide
Two of my favorite things. Bebop and destroyer
Thanks for the guide, looking to pick up blade again. Would you say RE or Surge is more dmg?
BURGERKING = still King. Huft
My poor breaker 😭 but at least my girl aero got some buffs
isn’t the breaker nerf too harsh? 😢
Percentage is harsh, but dps before the nerf was too high though. What I felt after the nerf was it's still fine to use :) It got similar to other A~S tier classes. Don't worry
and gl still wont have enough
M&S l Game Studio, wanna collab it was really good
Thank you for visiting :) I was surprised by the comment Did you mean to work something together by collab? Am I right? Please tell me if I got it wrong
The end of video is just what really happens when u play boink
Boink
Nice video. Reallly good job
Так ты играешь, как мясо, все впитываешь и ноешь, вот почему не играешь, а не из-за этого, у тебя класс на упор, а не на дальность, нытики.
in night's edge how is hit master in place of CD?
Hit master is not recommended to night's edge because major skills do have back attack advantage. Also, hit master is not applied on Ult which means it has lower efficiency compared to Cursed doll :)
bro get ur shit togteher
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what is this hsizt guifde
hello again, so i got 9 MI and 7 AM its mean i can not use it on DB. it is possible to play with AM +2 or dont bother? Thx a lot for ur time
You can use it on Surge deathblade, but it's only 1.5~2% stronger than original MI Surge deathblade. Therefore, if you are going to use it on surge deathblade, I recommend using fir cheaper accessories:) If you really want to use it with that amount of damage increase, you can. But, my personal recommendation is using it for cheaper build (with almost 90 quality) for now until you carve the next 97 stone. I also carved 7 AM stone too before another 97 stone. I know how it feels. You'll get another awesome stone:)
@@MnS-Studio thx so Much!
shit son im eating good tonight with this guide !!!!!!!!!!! thanks dude very helpful
hi bro :D do you have any pvp build for scrapper ?
I unfortunately rolled the master elixir set bonus on Predator Slayer, is it any better to leave it like that or should I still try for a critical set bonus?
If it's Slayer, it's better to seek for Critical set bonus Just keep trying with your own pace. No need to hurry if you already have Master elixir :) Still stronger than nothing
I don't understand the suggestion to use the slow tripod on dreadnaught on the last line. It's a 1 full second slower or so which is really bad for both specs in general.
Great question you gave! You can use the first one on last tripod for slightly quicker rotation, but there are some points you need to know. 1. If you use the slow tripod you mentioned, immunity lasts longer. You can say it's slower, but in raids such as Thaemine, immunity is a key of survival. Slightly longer immunity can be helpful in many raids. 2. If you choose the tripod we suggested, actual stagger rate increases. Written notes on skill does not change, but the actual stagger rate increases (but not that big). 3. Easier counterattack. Experienced players does not have problem with their counterattack. However, in some raids, it's better to just use the skill before the actual counterattack timing. In that case extra attack on the last tripods can be helpful These are major reasons we suggested the slower tripod. If you want to maximize your dps regardless of these reasons, it's totally fine to give it a go :) I do checked many KR GT destroyer rankers use the first one too as they want a bit quicker rotation
love the vids . best Guides <3 can do Artillerist next ?
There were some changes during the balance patch in May, so we'll discuss about it:)
Witch one Is hunger reaper 😂
Thirst in our video:)
I tried that rotation for some reason it only gets me at 59 stacks.. not 60?
You can lack 1~2 stacks if you don't use mael strom & surprise attack close:) Check if your skills were used close enough If it's still 59, mention me again. I'll help you out
@@MnS-Studio Thank you no it works I was not close enough for the maelstrom.
Great vid! Is there a sustantial difference between Main Eso and Sub Eso builds in terms of damage?
If you are using level 5~7 cooldown gems (in other words, low cooldown gems as you use low cooldown gems if it's not your main), swiftness stats of sub build gives extra cooldown which affects overall rotation. So, it's better to use sub build if you are not going to give high level cooldown gems:) Definitely stronger than main build with no high level cd gems
Hey man, i just got 9 adrenaline and 7 MI stone... what build should i go for? thx!
If you are going to raise your it over item level 1600, I suggest the following build. Stats : 7 : 12 : 4 (Crit : Spec : Swift) + 10% pet effect + Spec/Swift bracelet --> Neck (Spec / Crit) + Earing 1 (Spec) + Earing 2 (Swift) + Ring 1 (Spec) + Ring 2 (crit) Engravings : Grudge / Eso / KBW / MOA / Adrenaline + Lv.2 MI. Elixir : Critical (Must, never use Master) Explanation : Let me explain some points you should know. BTW, Congrats with your 97 stone. Your striker will get stronger than before. 1. Why do we use 700~750 crit with 1 crit ring? --> As you use Critical elixir, it's better to use crit ring if there's no additional crit options (Precision, circulation, crit synergy). Self crit rate can go up to 88~90% with Lv.3 adrenaline. If you have any kind of crit option, change Ring 2 to Specialization. Or buy 2 rings and switch depending on your party members. 2. Why do we use 400 Swift? --> In order to delete the risk of MI, you need over 350 Swift. Therefore, you should use 1 swift on your earing.
@@MnS-Studio thanks so Much!!
Hey i need help i got 10/keen blunt weapon and 6/adrenaline stone and idk how i can use this stone with surge blade or wirh Re, can u help me pls
m&s,can u help me
First of all, congrats with your 10/6 stone. -Surge Stats : 1800 spec / 650 Crit ( Spec+Crit bracelet ) Grudge / Surge / Adrenaline / Raid captain / MOA / Lv.2 KBW Elixir : Master elixir / Crit damage elixir Explanation : The only disadvantage of Lv.2 KBW is that importance of crit rate rises a bit more than other builds. However, it's not a huge disadvantage at all and all Surge builds desire more crit rate. Master elixir is a must for your build even though required crit rate for using Critical elixir gets lower. No big difference compared to other builds :) -Remaining energy (same with surge) Stats : 1800 spec / 650 Crit ( Spec+Crit bracelet ) Grudge / RE / Adrenaline / Raid captain / MOA / Lv.2 KBW Elixir : Master elixir / Crit damage elixir
Great video bro, short and to the point. But does the attack speed reduction from Mass Increase matter when we only have 600-ish swift?
Sorry for the late reply. Forgot to write a chat. To answer the question, 650 swift is needed if you are not going to use wine from Peyto. When I calculate the percentage : wind whisper = 20.8% Yearning = 12% Island food = 3.5~5% Swift 600 = 10% (around) Mass increase = -10% Total : 36.3~37.8% You already have no risk with mass increase. Wine can increase 3%, so you can reach full 140% atk speed with wine:) With 650 swift, you can reach almost 139% atk speed with no wine(2.5% more atk speed). So, there's no big difference if you are going to use wine
i would like to know which tripods should be leveled and which not, There is only a showing off which must be at lvl 5 (reds). And what kind of bracelet should i use? thanks =)
Red ones in the video are ones which should be leveled. Ones without red should not be leveled (lv.1)You can decide some tripods you want to use, but basically those options are best ones for your character for now. For bracelet, -Asura : Hammer, circulation are best. All other dps options are useful too. Only the worst option is precision. Crit percentage increased by Precision is not affected by the class engraving. In other words, your melee attack does not get stronger even though you have precision l. -Brawl king : Hammer, precision, circulation are best. Other dps options are great too.
Hii what is better if it is my main ? Eso 1 adrenaline 3 or eso 3 an adrenaline 1, with elixirs and bracelet crit spec ?
hello! What is the best set of cards to use in an Esoteric Flurry build?
Umar + Lazenith - Can feel the stress, but has highest damage potential. LOS - No stress, no stereotypes (Sometimes you get rejected because you use Umar+Lazenith) Legion commander cards - Great in Sonavel (raids with darkness weakness) + Makes you tankier in Kayangel. At first, choose between LOS 30 or Umar+Lazenith 30. If your alts are all different, LOS 30 can be better for now. Then switch it up to Umar+Lazenith to see the max dps :)
are you doing any thaemine guide?
Sorry, but we don't have a plan for thaemine for now. We'll discuss on it as our subscribers can need it
@@MnS-Studio I see, maybe just a gate 3 + gate 4 guide? Your previous guides were very helpful
Hi, first would like to say ty for the information! If I have 2 Adrenaline on my scrapper - (Swif 1461, Crit 955, Entropy with KBW) what elixir should i go for? 1. Master + Cri dmg on pant 2. Critical + Addi Dmg on pant?
There's specific crit rate you need to decide For pants, you need at least 95% crit rate to make Crit dmg better than Additional damage. Also, you need at least 88% crit rate to make Critical better than Master. Therefore, if your crit rate cannot reach 95% with master elixir, take Additional damage elixir. If you cannot reach 88% with self crit, take master rather than Critical. *If your crit rate is near 88% (84~87%), it's totally fine to use Critical as you can gain extra crit from else where. No big difference in real raids. Normally, tai scrapper takes Master elixir + Additional damage when they don't have crit synergy friend or extra crit on their bracelet :)
@@MnS-Studio you explain really clear, thank you so much :D
lv2 grudge is still stonger than a non 9/7 build with just +1. Do koreans not know math?
It's true Lv.2 Grudge is better than other non 97 builds. However, it's also true that Koreans feel no need to introduce Lv.2 grudge build for other global users because Lv.2 grudge cannot be the main build they desire for using 97 stone. Comparison of 97 build should be another 97 build with the highest efficiency because the reason why you carve 97 stone is to make your character perform the best damage. If you are gonna take same 20% damage intake risk with lower damage efficiency compared to other 97 builds, go ahead. But still, I have no idea why you are commenting about Koreans and Lv.2 grudge build at this video. Just play your build if you want to. I'm just introducing builds that can perform the highest (or near the highest). And deliver important information for global users. I have 2 other reverse stones too. Lv.2 grudge & Lv.2 MOA. But I decided to carve another 97 stone with Lv.2 adrenaline to see the max damage. Probably, you'll change your stone too as you reach item level which makes carving 97 stone the most efficient way to upgrade your character. That's what happened to me too. Hope you get a lucky shot my man
@@MnS-Studio the only reason I said it is because iirc you said in the video never use grudge 2. But what if someone unfortunately cuts a 97 with 7 on grudge, that’s still a dps increase is all I meant. Of course you would go for adrenaline 7 ideally but you can’t really control the RNG there. So, all I am saying if you happen to cut one, you can still use it
@@photograhy I mentioned it because it's a lot better to use 333331 with same amount of gold you can decide to use with Lv.2 grudge build. But you're right. I should have explained it more. Thx for great feedback
Hi i'm new to the game. As for the engravings, should i use them at lv 1 only?
You should use Lv.3 engravings for those I did not explain it as Lv.1. Engraving selections are applied as you enter raids (after Punika) Engravings I introduced are for raid users at least item level 1415 :)
so most stupidity ppl do not understand about swift and swift Hunger. Swiftnes NOT LINEAR damage increase like spec or crit. Example. we have a 12s window and 12s CD of skill. With 33% CDR(8s cd of skill) how much damage increase? 50% (cuz you can use it 1.5 times in 12 s window) with 50% CDR (6s cd of skil)how much damage increase? 100% (cuz you can use it 2 times in 12 s window) its means first 33% of swift give us 50% but +13% above give another 50% lets add ANOTHER 16% above 50% with 66% CDR (4s cd of skill) how much damage increas? 200% (cuz you can press it 3 times in 12 s window) With 80% CDR (2,4s cd of skill)its be 400% damage increase (cuz you can press it 5 times in 12 s window) its mean more you have CDR more its give to point you can press all buttons rigth after they ready. and Full swift reaper CAN and he even have realy notisable free time to run and press X or jump. More over its synergize with Vortex cd cut. And even more about it. Spec increase damage only red skiils,when swift increase damage of purple skill to. In this moment EU/NA community mistaken. Full swift reaper > any other variants. just do not take ANY CD tripods on reds, and take a Shadow storm 3 /1/2 with full swift rotation be Vortex,red,red,Vortex,red,red and go on. in empty space put all other skills. And you forgot to say. Swift build its outplay build. Cuz Reaper have WAY more attack speed,mobilyty,shorter CD,WAY MORE stagger (increasing same as damage what i write above),and more destraction. If Hunger swift reaper know figth,he do not need support at all. Long time ago it was proved when ppl SOLO kill brel p6(current p4)
dont think night edge less than full moon, in stead i have seen ppl do more than the full moon, maybe its not objective