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WagerMeThis
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My channel is about craps and outside the box craps strategies. Not just the same old pass line + odds. You will see a different way of approaching the game and I will always stand behind what I show on my channel. As well as expert NFL picks and analysis and other Sports Betting.
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Thanks for your sharing of knowledge, good explanation of the strategy ❤
Jacob. If you are going to do a 100.00 DP bet you mentioned that a player could hedge it if they want in your video. Based on your experience,what would you recommend to hedge your DP 100.00 flat bet?🤔
hedging is for bushes' per dge
@@drdontpassone8164 Who is dge?🤣
@@Darksider-di2vo you tube craps superstar x 6 years D runk G uy E xplains................loses rarely
@@drdontpassone8164 And where can one view this strategy? is there a video link? 🤔
@@drdontpassone8164 🤣😂😅
Hello Jacob! Im going to have to "disagree" with you and some others here about the DP 150.00FLAT vs DP min flat with MAX odds! Ive been playing darkside for a lot of years and had to learn the hard way about this topic. To prove my point I did a run with a custom Wincraps betting script after I seen your video this morning using two players for the run. The first player was doing a 150.00 DP flat and no odds. The second player was doing table min flat and max odds on all points. I set it up as a 10x odds table with table min. of 10.00 so the odds bet on the 4 and 10 was 200.00 the 5 and 9 150.00 and the 6 and 8 120.00! I made the continuous run over a batch of 153k live table rolls that I charted myself over the years and manually entered in my Wincraps database for testing. Each player made their bets at the same times. Many times the Min flat max odds player# two had more money at risk than the flat better on a point of 4 or 10 and 5 and 9! The resulting nets were STAGGERING! Player #1 that was flat betting 150.00 flat with no odds LOST -66,600 and the Min. flat max odds player#2 had a net profit of +21,810! This shows the magnitude and "BRUTAL" odds that the DP faces from comeout rolls losses. IMO People who say that large DP flats are better than Min. flats with max odds just haven't played the darkside long enough to "take the steam" and learn the hard lesson! Best of Luck at the Tables!😎
Great stuff
As a 30 year craps player you are 100% correct on Dont Pass Odds. If you can afford $150 on the line, play it as the Flat Bet.
7 11 77 7 happens all the time u r toast then 😪😪
Point seven outs happen all the time too
@@drdontpassone8164 FACT!
@gscop1683 Better read my post above! The only question I have for you is how many times will you get burned on the comeouts with that 150.00 DP???
2nd best ever............i is got da best one,,,,,, take dat to da bank ,my boy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,me is ddp1
ie waylon from the dont good stuff
231 up on the win per ''craps down under-''-best from the dont .............get off the'' up on the loss'' nonsense,,,cmon now you know better WTS
@@drdontpassone8164 maybe>1-3-2-4 ?🤔
If your not the shooter you can take up your don't pass bet. If your the shooter it has to stay or move it to the pass line.
1. I come to a table where the dice are out. I put a $10 come bet. The shooter throws a PSO. I win & the rest of the table loses. That more than offsets whatever can be gained by throwing a place bet # once to win. Agree? 2. Too many so called craps "experts" insist upon never making your odds/place/buy bets work on the front line comeouts. It was a pleasure to see a gambler on a you tube video that actually has good sense.(!!!)
While I’m not a fan of 3-pt Molly, all your harping about having to roll a number twice totally ignores the 2-1 advantage you have while the bet is in the Come, AND the extra payout on the odds (vs a place bet) when it *does* hit.
The payout isn't extra when it's looked at risk to risk. I show that in the video. As for the 2 to 1 advantage on the come out, you only have that for 1 roll, after that you are always in the disadvantage
It is not entirely true that you have to roll the same number twice to win on a come bet. You can put a come bet on any point number you choose, and avoid the come square all together.
There is a thing called a Put ber
Yes, there is a such thing as a put bet. All it is, putting a come bet where you want it to go.
Enjoy your videos Jacob. Even if it doesn't come out the way you want I learn something. And that is the name of the game.
This video did exactly how I thought it would
''best lightside video ever'' per author,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cocky guy is wmt w o w...............🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
The title is a play on the other channels titles. I just thought i would use some click bait too
@@wagermethis you hooked me..........taking the hook out of my mouth as i write this gggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ddp1
What's wrong with the Title of the video? The title is true! Its the best lightside video ever as to how NOT TO PLAY CRAPS!😂🤣😅
@@drdontpassone8164 You made the mistake of thinking it was a how to win video and its NOT!
@@Darksider-di2vo wmt only makes 100 percent will win vids everyone knows dat ggggggggggggggg
Great Video Jacob! It seizes to amaze me how many people in the craps world think that this style of play is the cats meow for craps! Why would a casino ever show players a method on how to have a chance at a score? THEY WOULDN'T!🤷♂
I agree.
@@wagermethis ''cats meow ''vids ...........have never seen one cmon folks.......maybe 36fullpress in yester year ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg i is ddp1
very well said, Jacob. Pass Line bets are fine if you're also placing the Inside or Across, or as part of a larger strategy like the Arnold, but it does not work by itself or with Odds. Also agree that you get a lot more bang for your buck using place/buy bets vs. come bets with odds. To make matters worse, Pass Line and come bets are contract bets that cannot be taken down or moved.
Agree 100%
there are 4 numbers on the CO roll that will derail this strategy: the 7, 11, 6 and 8. when he rolled a 6 on the CO roll he wound up losing his DP bet.
Always love ur work and ideas
Your average roll in the 5 rolls was 6.4, which includes the 7 out.
Just start at 8:00 if you want to watch the roll
Do you need long rolls to score in a session? It depends on the strategy. What if you are a player that bets a large unit on no more than one and at most two numbers "rolling" for no more than 3 or 4 rolls with no presses and if you don't get your win you are out of there? This type of player doesn't need long rolls just a hit within 3 to 4 rolls! Not all players play for the long rolls that never come even close to often enough. Some players bet a large unit for a limited number of rolls. If they hit fine if not its wait till next hand or shooter. I have no reservation in saying that if you are a player that's always playing for the long roll and press press press, good luck with that you will need all the luck you can get!🤷♂
Great stuff
you didn't incorporate the field into the light side play and reduce with profit.
No problem on the 6/8 stuff anyway, didn't seem to work based on your "principles".
best lightside strat ever...............pass line bet take outs come bet take odds..............to conclusion .............. avoid place bets especially 459 0r 10 totally WHY ?????????????? MAY SAYS SO just follow the math .....real simple stuff
You are not wrong. To be successful on the light side you do need long rolls. Then press the numbers when they are being hit.
Great explanation and not just for the uninitiated. Discipline is key for sure. My lack of discipline is the reason why I have less bankroll than I should.
too risky
so you made $60 in about 30 mins, pretty good
U lost more on the ats than it’s worth
This strategy is OUTSTANDING but Come on dude at wat point do you start putting the whole roll in your rack instead of pressing... y give it back
Love it when my grandson throws with me. He just turned 6 a couple of weeks ago, probably been playing for at least a year with me. Great memories
Too many 7's where I play. You see 2,3,4 7's in a row. Then point 7 out. After that a lot of hitting the point on the next roll. Lose whole bankroll. Then there is the ATS shooter who gets all the numbers too. This happens all the time. Never been to casino where part of the ATS didn't hit at least once. Either they throw 7's all day or you have a shooter get all the numbers no in-between here.
yep you summed it up real nice. Reality was always ugly and we ended up losing no matter what. One out of many trips you might win back some money. BUT it's fun to play and I love this game 🙂
Why is my post being deleted??? Yes, the seven can come any time BUT it can only beat you once after the point is set! it can beat you to "death" on the comeouts when working especially if there is a sevens cluster of back to backs or if the sevens are trending back to back like they did in this session and like they do in a lot of sessions.🤷♂ I love back to back sevens in my sessions. When its happening, Im doing lay bets like a mad man!😂🤣😅
I didn't delete it
@@wagermethis Can other people delete comments in your threads? Ive posted a comment 4 times only to come back and see it gone? For now it's still here.🤷♂
@@Darksider-di2vo not that I know of. Where were they posted.
@@wagermethis I posted the comment on this thread below 4 times before it stayed this time.I don't mind if people debate and rebuttal my comments as everybody has their opinions. But for some reason it was totally gone after I had posted several times?🤷♂
@Darksider-di2vo no idea man. I never delete comments
This post was deleted for some reason??? I will post again.🤷♂ Of course hind site is always 20/20 but you may want to consider watching for these things when working the comeout or not! In the last two seven events was one of them a come out 7 especially the last one? In the last 2 seven events was one of them back to back especially the last one? If the answer is yes to either I would skip working the comeout!.In many sessions the sevens are rolling "solo" and there aren't many back to backs! observe and know this! Also if you choose to work the come out and get beat by a 7, how many times are you going to get beat in a row before you stop?>>> It should only be once!<<< and heads up on the next come out. I can hear people now> you can't predict that what happened before is going to happen again! Better to assume that it will until it doesn't! Ive been charting my game for over 30 yrs pay attention to what Ive said here and it will save you some money you didn't need to LOSE! Yes, the seven can come any time BUT it can only beat you once after the point is set! it can beat you to "death" on the comeouts when working especially if there is a sevens cluster of back to backs or if the sevens are trending back to back like they did in this session and like they do in a lot of sessions.🤷♂ I love back to back sevens in my sessions. When its happening, Im doing lay bets like a mad man!😂🤣😅
I think best play would be inside with 5, 6, 8 & 9 with 3 hits then down.
Too guy in video. Let's say you want too do 1 lay net. Too make it worth it. What is the least amount you csn bet ?
Well most places won't let you lay less than $20
@wagermethis 30 and 40 what is payout ? If you do this is it worth it or no ?
Turning ur bets off will never hurt you
Thank you for stating some common sense about the “Come Out Role” The dice don’t know it’s the Come Out Role Move over Random Randy , Little Whiskey has you beat
Yes, the dice don't know it's the comeout roll BUT when the sevens are rolling back to back or "clustering" like in many sessions you will lose multiple times vs you will only lose once after the point is set. The question is > How many times are you willing to lose to multiple comeout sevens?🤷♂ see my post above.
@@Darksider-di2vo this is true. Do PSO’s roll back to back ? 3, 4 times in a row ? So what’s the difference ?
@@arizsumda1 Yes they do! BUT If you expose bets again after a PSO ,and you lose all your bets to another PSO, then you deserve to lose! That'S the problem with "most" craps players they pay no attention to conditions. If they did they would lose less money and at least have a chance for a score! They play every hand every shooter regardless of conditions that don't favor their moves in the moment. Ive been charting my game for over 30 years! I notice things most players can't and don't.🤷♂
Probability of 6/8 without 7 in 9 rolls is .00000282
I thought Jacob was trying to see if he could roll 9 wins before 5 sevens.
Of course hind site is always 20/20 but you may want to consider watching for these things when working the comeout or not! In the last two seven events was one of them a come out 7 especially the last one? In the last 2 seven events was one of them back to back especially the last one? If the answer is yes to either I would skip working the comeout!.In many sessions the sevens are rolling "solo" and there aren't many back to backs! observe and know this! Also if you choose to work the come out and get beat by a 7, how many times are you going to get beat in a row before you stop?>>> It should only be once!<<< and heads up on the next come out. I can hear people now> you can't predict that what happened before is going to happen again! Better to assume that it will until it doesn't! Ive been charting my game for over 30 yrs pay attention to what Ive said here and it will save you some money you didn't need to LOSE! Best of Luck at the Tables!😎
Every long roll I have ever seen or had has had a 7 on a come-out during the roll. Not working come-outs absolutely maters if you are betting 10% of your bank roll every come-out. If you are betting the pass-line only, 7's on the come-out are good.
Yes, the seven can come any time BUT it can only beat you once after the point is set! it can beat you to "death" on the comeouts when working especially if there is a sevens cluster of back to backs or if the sevens are trending back to back like they did in this session and like they do in a lot of sessions.🤷♂ I love back to back sevens in my sessions. When its happening, Im doing lay bets like a mad man!😂🤣😅 Best of Luck at the Tables!😎
How much would you have lost if you were 480 across?
I use some strategies that work the come out roll and others that don't. It really comes down to my comfort level and/or preferences. You're also correct that PSOs are just as common as hitting a seven on the come out. Interesting idea here, Jacob. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series.
They can only beat you once after the point is set, BUT can beat you to death on comeouts multiple times! The question is how many times will you get beat? Hopefully just once?🤷♂
Is your dog ok? My brothers dog was coughing and brought him to the vet and they discovered he had heart worms - he is on meds now - hope your dog is ok.
Did you ever hit the all small all tall make em all?
I also rolled 3 come out sevens last week at the table working the 6/8. Burned 200 in 5 rolls. 7,7,7,5,7 And I was setting.. probably should have just chucked them. Lol😂 BDB
You might consider using an external microphone
Jacob, aren't the white chips representing the days (10 sevens) loss and the green chips represent the days win? So, on 5 days you lost $3k and on 4 days you had 5 breakeven days, you are still down $15K going into the 10th day win them all $21K. Making your profit only $6K. If I remember correctly, the breakeven days were mostly at the end of your $3K buy-in. I think you should do it again. 😁
You are right. Your the 1st person to point it out. I noticed that I was mistaken, but still after 10 episodes it was a profit.
I enjoy all your content, this was definitely fun. And I wasn’t trying to discredit what you said, was only seeking how you got to your numbers.
Levis has been my INT guy this year
Farming the field is at best a 40% win rate... you have to hedge the field always.