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Thank you! The next video will have better audio, I promise...

Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you're finding the graphics useful!

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

@ you’re welcome ☺️

I am aware that the bitrate on my mic is horrible. I’m working on ways of making it at least somewhat better. But I do admit I need a proper mic

That image is an Adelaide Station departure board, which was on display at the National Rail Museum in Port Adelaide. I don’t know what year it’s from tho (pre-1970s probably). I never noticed that the Grange Line wasn’t on there. I’d say the reason is that Grange/Henley Beach might have just operated as a shuttle from Woodville at that time, which is why it might not have been showing on there. Bizzarre…

@@tekkies-transport Thanks for your reply. I think that only later night, and non peak weekend trains were "all change at woodville for grange".... The board is probably completely accurate with an explanation I can't think of.... but I did have a good natured giggle at the thought they might have forgotten dear ole grange.

Something they should definitely do is reinstate some platforms, and provide standard gauge access (either through dual gauge, or by adding some dedicated standard gauge platforms), that way interstate trains can return to Adelaide Station. It's quite annoying that interstate trains depart from Keswick (Adelaide Parklands Terminal), as it's not easy to get to the centre of Adelaide from there. Glad you enjoyed the video!

Id say less. To put it in perspective. Melbourne’s Comeng fleet started entering service in the early 1980s, which is about half a decade before the 3000 and 3100 class hit the rails in Adelaide. We are in the process of retiring the Comengs AT THE MOMENT. So by that estimation, you need to either find a replacement for the 3000 and 3100s to see out the next 10-30 years, or get on with electrification. So yeah you’ll need to get on with that before those railcars reach the end of their lives…

the problem with electrification of the Belair line is the tunnels through the hills don't have enough clearance for the overhead wires

There is, can you please tell me where?

Glad you enjoyed it. Are you talking about the old Broad Gauge Gaol Loop track, or are you talking about something else?

@@tekkies-transport yes and the old Interstates trains

@@james124___2 they block off

I never mentioned when South Australia axed their regional network. I only mentioned that regional trains were kicked out of Adelaide Station in 1984. Thanks for the information tho!

@@tekkies-transport regional technically would include pax trains to places like peterborough sa. Only trains evicted were interstaters 😃

@@southaussiegarbo2054 Aaahhhh. Ok. When I mentioned regional and interstate trains, I was talking about passenger trains. Should've cleared that up. My bad. I am aware that there were goods trains that ran to places like Peterborough and the Barossa Valley well into the 2000s and 2010s.

@tekkies-transport ye. However bluebirds still ran to say burra and even mount gambier from adl railway till 1995 when lines either closed/became dormant due to service removal or were in some cases closed and converted to standerd gauge.... Its sad to think its how it went. However steamranger and a few others did take tranes to burra in 2007 as one off. Now tho that lines cutoff from admet line thru a fence that was erected at gawler river bridge during the gawler line electrification works.

In the 1980s, car ownership became more widespread and new car models were coming, in that time, south australia's regional train system became run down, redhens which at that time became literally 33 to 34 years old and had the old 1950s technology, the country bluebirds were also about the same age and in the same 1950s technology. The tracks were also very run down and stations were very inadequate. Patronage numbers declined to an extant that many regional lines were deemed unprofitable leading to their removal. They did order new jumbos and 3000 class railcars but until they were ordered for suburban services and it was too late to put them into regional services. Sad but true.

I put a link to the line diagram I used to draw out the track layout for the diagram I used in this video. The link is in the description. Glad you enjoyed the video!

Adelaide ain’t THAT small… there are plenty of smaller cities with larger rail networks than us

@@LucyJrts but compared to some city’s it’s small

Wellington in New Zealand is smaller, yet it still has suburban rail

@@tekkies-transportbut its still small

@@tekkies-transport and welligton is like tiny

I beg to differ. Flinders Street is a beautiful station. The station building is extremely historic, and is an iconic local landmark. The building at Adelaide Station is pretty nice too, but Flinders Street is just much more iconic.

Thanks!

I know. I saw it when I was in Adelaide getting footage for the video. You can see it during one of the clips where I show footage of the Ghan coming around the loop. That's why I said the broad gauge track was "abandoned". It's unlikely it'll be reinstated (as there is no reason to now that the only broad gauge traffic in South Australia is suburban trains), so there's no reason not to rip it up. They could theoretically use it to duplicate the Gaol loop by converting that track to standard gauge...

No problem. Glad you enjoyed the video!

It's not to scale. The platforms are actually quite long. Platform 1 is definitely shorter than the rest, though. Adelaide also very rarely runs trains longer than 3-4 cars. I think the football trains on the Seaford and Gawler lines will have one or two six-car trains (2x 3 car sets) but most of the time, lines like Belair, Outer Harbour and Grange will run 2-car trains.

The most important thing was the track layout. Plus, at the time I made the diagram, I hadn’t been to Adelaide station since 2019, so I didn’t know how long each platform was.

@@mitchellheard8981I’ve seen four-car Outer Harbor trains at rush hour a couple times, seems to be quite rare though.

*PS As you correctly point out the Belair Line is electrified as far as Goodwood and there are crossovers before and after Showgrounds Station to allow Belair trains to cross to the Main South, and vice versa.

Interesting… the diagram I looked at only seemed to refer to them as the Seaford main, and Belair main lines… Good to know!

​@@mitchellheard8981no their names are name after the terminus stations. Ie. Flinders, seaford etc. Although some old heads call the seaford line noarlunga since it was the old terminus

They were previously known as the Main South and South Suburban as well - there used to be a signal (might still be!) when leaving Adelaide that had an aspect showing either MS or SS.

yes because lets waste money on a totally.useless project in a time of scarce resources that adds nothing to running the system, speed or anything else . In fact is an inferior track gauge. Just so transit nerds can wet themselves over another project and collect stats and photos. Whats a new hospital or school needed when we have the excitement of moving a track a few inches for no reason.

@@xr6lad I understand your view, as the ramping problem and lack of medical facilities is the more important issue, but eventually going ahead with the gauge change is far from useless. It will make rail to Mount Barker and Murray Bridge much easier. Then after the system has extended to Aldinga, Tanunda, and Mount Barker, a second line could bring services out to Virginia, Two Wells, and Mallala. All these long term projects will greatly help with traffic flow and affordable housing. Broad gauge is the better system, but Australia can't change in that direction, and we will all be better off with an integrated rail system.

@@martythemartian99 can't wait to have my standard gauge Mt. Barker train cancelled behind a failed SCT service up the hill.

@@Planetrainguy 🤣Yeah, like a heavier version of someone driving a car onto the O-bahn.🤣

@@martythemartian99 haha true

I am planning on eventually doing some more Adelaide content, eventually… Glad you enjoyed the video!

It's not a large network wouldn't be a long video. Surprised the SA government haven't even completely canned all train services. They hate anything that isn't a car

@@tangiers365 nah, Mali’s alright thankfully. Things are looking up for Adelaide public transport under him

I’m 95% sure my pronunciation is correct, as the onboard announcements pronounce Bowden the same way I did. I could be wrong tho. It’s not like onboard announcements can’t pronounce station names wrong… (looking at you Reservoir). Glad you enjoyed the video and found it informative!

@@tekkies-transport 👍

​@@terencemccarthy8615yes all his pronunciations were correct. Adelaidean confirming

​@@tekkies-transportit was a good video

Really! I didn’t know it was called Gaol Junction. The track diagram I looked at for the video referred to it as Nairne Junction (named after the town of Nairne in the Adelaide Hills, which briefly served as the terminus of the Adelaide-Wolseley line). Interesting to know. Glad you enjoyed the video!

​@@tekkies-transportdon't know where you got that info. The mt barker junction in the hills is near Nairne but a junction would be named after geographical locations and Nairne is no where near the city

@@tangiers365 I got the info from the track diagram I saw of the area. The track layout was correct, but clearly some of the naming wasn’t

No problem. Glad you enjoyed the video!

Really? So who made all those other video's I've watched about Adelaide trains over the years?😳

You can see it in the last frame of the video.

Wow. It kind of seemed odd that there‘s a gap there. I assumed it was there to make space for the island platforms. Kind of cool that they made a provision for that there. Good forward planning! Thanks for the interesting fact!

@@SormonAusPol I never knew that was the reason for the gap! Any idea what was planned for that line? An eastern suburbs line out towards Burnside, and Magill would be phenomenal to see

@@LucyJrts No real plans have been made. It just there as future proofing.

@@LucyJrts never. The government hates anyone who isn't driving a car

Interestingly, I caught a Belair train that ended up being routed into platform 1 at Adelaide just a couple weeks ago. Never seen it before, and this wasn't during peak times... not sure why that happened... Also, it's rare to see Outer Harbor trains routed to platform 9, they almost always get platforms 7 and 8, with Grange trains getting platform 9 almost exclusively

MORE importantly... you forgot platform 10! It's the name of the station's cafe, and boy their coffee is sh!t 🤣

​@LucyJrts literally caught an outer harbor service last night on platform 9. The grange train left from platform 8

@@tangiers365 odd, that’s not the way round I usually see it, at least not during the day. Is it more common at night perhaps?

@LucyJrts wait it was the other way round. I got the grange from 9 and the OH was on 8. I don't know why just telling u what the Sunday night service was

Glad you enjoyed the video. First of all, I didn’t know the bottom siding was only used to stow maintenance vehicles. Secondly, whilst the Seaford Main lines can only access platforms 1-5. There is a crossover at Mile End, allowing Seaford trains to run on the Belair lines, which have access to the big crossovers at Nairne Junction. So it is technically possible to access the rest of the platforms from the Seaford line, but you just need to switch over to the Belair tracks to do it. Glad you enjoyed!

@@tekkies-transport that is true - for someone who doesn't use the adelaide network you've done a great job and I've learnt some things aswell 👍😊

@@Planetrainguy I know! Plus the only time I’ve ever been on the network was during the trip I took to get the footage for the video!

Yeah I don't know why that crossover isn't electrified either. Especially given that everything else in the area is electrified

I'm pretty sure it used to be a line only used to access a since removed siding to the main depot and wasn't in use when electrification happened but was since reinstated for more flexibility for Belair services

@@Planetrainguy Interesting. That might explain it. Thanks!

That would be ideal…

Glad you enjoyed it!

That must have been an absolute nightmare!

Simple explanation: the points reset themselves after the front bogie had passed over them An though it might have seemed to be a mayor drama, the same thing is still very much a common occurrence today and not exactly a big deal!

It was the real driving test in Melbourne. Between that and hook turns, we always sorted the interstaters from the real ones haha

just add cowcatchers to the tram :)

Block off peel street and you could remove some of the lights.

Hopefully they do give it an upgrade in order to simplify the layout at least. The addition of traffic lights definitely improved things, but I think more needs to be done in terms of simplifying the layout. I reckon they should probably realign the western side of the roundabout onto the current northbound lanes of Peel Street (I hope that makes sense), that way Peel Street comes into the center of the roundabout, as opposed to being offset to the west. I think the position of Peel Street here is what really added that extra level of complexity when the roundabout was being designed back in 1951, and is something that has probably puzzled people since it opened (it was worse back before they added the traffic lights). But I definitely think that something needs to be done about Peel Street, because the way it comes into the roundabout is really bad. Glad you enjoyed the video!

@@tekkies-transport Melbourne has a bad habit of complexifying things until they're hard to use, and seems to have a real anxiety about assertive design decisions that limit car access. Blocking off the top end of Peel street to car traffic entirely might be the best solution. That'll simplify things significantly. Either that or block off Elizabeth street.

I thought that the Park Street entrance into St Kilda Road has TWO lines? One for St Kilda Road, and one for Domain Road.

@@samueljonis434 the new junction layout doesn’t allow access into domain road from St Kilda Road. Taitset has a video on the Swanston Street/St Kilda road corridor which better explains this.

@@tekkies-transport I am fairly certain track is in place to turn into Domain Road from St Kilda Road but not from Domain Road into St Kilda Road. I will double check in a day or so. A decision hasn't been made yet about returning trams to Domain Road and Park Street and while I think it would be a mistake, the building a platform stop in Domain Road and laying new track will have been a disgraceful waste of money. However, it would be useful as diversion if there is a problem at Toorak Road.

@@andrewhighriser9531 I've seen the new junction at Anzac Station. It will only be possible to access Domain Road from Park Street. Plus the line on Toorak Road West was built in order to allow for trams to continue running whilst Domain Road was closed

@@tekkies-transport My apologies. I was absolutely wrong.