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Dr. Heiser’s explanation of how presupposition controls one’s eschatological position is an excellent method. Effectively explaining to believers that they have presuppositions about scriptures even before they begin interpretation usually meets with failure. People have great difficulty in recognizing they have presuppositions. Dr. Heiser’s approach is perhaps the best at explaining how everybody makes choices based upon their presuppositions. The basis for his explanation is based upon whether Bible students join scriptures (a joiner) or split scriptures (a splitter). By “splitter” Dr. Heiser meant dissecting the differences within a passage or with various passages to isolate certain ideas as separate events. Using a different idea for a “splitter” might be understanding each verse out of context as literal. By “joiner” Dr. Heiser meant harmonizing the differences within a passage or with related passages, so the passages support each other. Using a different idea for a “joiner” might be to harmonize related verses to be compatible. In some cases, this could be akin to apologetics. A superficial example may help using the differences for the inscription on the cross of Jesus that each of the Gospels recorded. Matthew 27:37 - “This is Jesus King of the Jews.” Mark 15:26 - “The King of the Jews” Luke 23:38 - “This is the King of the Jews.” John 19:19 - “Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews.” The “joiner” would use the apologetical approach by claiming that the inscription contained all of these words and ideas as recorded in the four Gospels. But what was recorded in each of the Gospels was each writer’s recollection or abbreviation. The actual inscription might have been “This is Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews. ” Using another perspective, the inscription might have been in Latin. In Latin it might have read, "Iesus Nazarenus, Rex Iudaeorum" (INRI). Therefore, the differences are due to who translated the Latin for the writers who recorded the inscription in the four Gospels of the Greek New Testament. The presupposition of the “joiner” is that there is just a single inscription nailed to the cross, and that the differences can be reconciled rather than that one or more Gospel records are wrong. However, Bible students cannot be certain that one of the explanations by the “joiner” was what actually occurred, although these explanations are reasonable. On the other hand, the “splitter” who might use a literal approach for interpreting the scriptures could claim there were four different inscriptions nailed to the cross above the head of Jesus. While this would be an unlikely scenario, even for a “splitter,” it illustrates how different passages might be used by a “splitter” to arrive at what was likely a wrong interpretation. Dr. Heiser encouraged Bible students to recognize their own presupposition concerning eschatology and how their presuppositions change their understanding of scripture.

Dr. Heiser’s explanation of how presupposition controls one’s eschatological position is an excellent method. He approached eschatology using different scenarios for when or if the Bible supported the thousand-year millennium, the rapture, the seven-year Great Tribulation, and the Second Coming. All his scenarios began with the cross and ended with the New Heavens and New earth or eternity. Prior to any of these scenarios, Bible students presuppose one of four views of eschatology which encompass all the scenarios presented by Dr. Heiser. There are four general views of eschatology with each view having some diverging details. The four views of eschatology are Historicist, Idealist, Futurist, and Preterist. The Historicist view is that since the cross, Church history has followed the examples of the seven churches in Revelation. This view was popular among early Christians and dominated the belief of the Protestant Reformers who identified the papacy as the antichrist. The Idealist perspective is sometimes labeled the Allegorical view. The Idealist view was held by some Church fathers and has remained the belief of some Christians throughout the age of the Church. The Futurist view holds that the entire Book of Revelation remains as a future prophecy that is yet to be fulfilled. Since the Early Church there have been some who believe in the Futurist view. Among evangelicals and fundamentalists, it is the most popular view since the decline of the Historicist view in the nineteenth century. Preterists believe all the biblical prophecy was fulfilled before the end of the first century. The Preterist perspective goes back to the early years of the Church. Several scholars in the Restoration Movement in the middle of the nineteenth century articulated the Preterist Perspective. Preterism has been growing in popularity since about 1990. Full Preterist believe the Second Coming is a spiritual event that occurs at the death of each individual. Partial Preterists continue to believe in a future Second Coming.

I wish people would stop copy and pasting what other people believe and just teach what the text and only what the text teaches.

Apostle Paul calls it a mystery. Nobody knows for sure

Oldie but more relevant today than then👍👍👍🙏

It’s true, I never really felt excited about the Bible until I started listening to Heiser.

Christ himself taught that his kingdom is not of this world and there you go guys looking for a physical kingdom you guys are delusional and spiritually dead. God will raise up his elect at the last day if you don’t understand LAST go get yourself dictionary.

Why’d I believe in a cruel god

Thank you for finding this! Dr Heiser at his finest!!

Excellent, thank you for this! Sure do miss Mike! How long ago did this podcast happen? I've heard Mikes notes for his 3rd novel are being used for the 3rd novel. Sure hope it gets written and released.

This is classic Mike!

I wish I can read the words on the slides. They are too blurry.

Lots of opinions and philosophy. 😂

Les Feldick in his Bible study believes in a pre-tribulation rapture for the reason that Grace and Law need to be separate. Just as God instructed Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away after the birth of Isaac so the children of Grace will need to be taken out before Israel again comes under Law

I am having a hard day. Just read 9 chapters of Isaiah and now i am so thankful to listen to Dr Heiser

Ridiculous

I used Book of Joshua passage with Jehovah Witnesses. They were puzzled

Does anyone know when this took place?

There are quite a few questions, that man has formulated, that is not specified in the bible. This is one of them. Others include the trinity, who/what the whore of babylon is, and on and on. These questions are drom the devil, and the root of all of them is the hubris and insanity of thinking that we can comprehend God fully. Just stop. It is divisive, and devisiveness is specifically denounced in the bible. Just stop. Jesus was the son of God and he died for your sins. Sin is defined in the Torah. That is all you need to know. The rest of it is wisdom, and understanding the purpose of the law, in order to better live our lives the way God wants us too, so that we can be closer to God. He loves us. That alone is awesome, because most of us don't even love ourselves, much less our neighbor.

I'm not a pretriber. Nothing biblical about a two stage return of Christ. The futurists place a gap between the 69th and 70th week that does not exist. I know a dispensationalist that's giddy with glee over what's going on in the middle east because she's going to be raptured up from responsibility 😵‍💫 not my view.

That’s interesting that you are not taking a position on the end times? It just so happens that pastor David Wilkerson did not take a position either.

Could it be that the body of Christ will not be subjected to Gods wrath for why they may be absent during the wrath and judgments?

Dr. Heiser has some good ideas and some very bad ones. He seems to think the Bible was figured out by the prophets and that was their inspiration. He believes the Torah was written by second temple Jews. I believe he tends to get out of his depth regularly. So I take it with a large grain of salt.

Michael asks us: *Why* does Matthew in chapter 2:15. refer to Jesus coming out of Egypt as a fulfillment of Hosea 11:1? If I may, I'd like to attempt to answer that by saying that Hosea 11:1. is what Father God calls a *damah* The name comes from “similitudes” within Hosea 12:10. (KJV): “I have also “spoken” (וְדִבַּ֙רְתִּי֙ - dabar; Piel verb stem, “to speak or promise”) by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used *similitudes* by the ministry of the prophets.” The English "similitudes" was derived from the Hebrew verb אֲדַמֶּֽה transliterated as *damah* Damah is primarily defined as, “to be like, to resemble” and within the Piel stem as recorded, it is to be understood as, “to liken, to compare, to imagine and think”. In the context of Hosea 12:10., a “damah is antecedent”, and it can be understood as being similar to a *foreshadowing allegory, where a comparable hidden meaning and prophetic teaching is described within its narrative* They are in essence *prophecy* It is one of the legal ways that Father God fulfills His edict of Amos 3:7.: *Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets* He does so by “hiding things”, as stated in Proverbs 25:2.: “It is the glory of God to conceal (הַסְתֵּ֣ר - sathar; Hiphil verb stem, to *conceal, hide* ) a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.” Father God utilizes damahs extensively within scripture, where a few examples would be: Genesis 22:1-18 where Abraham symbolically represents Father God, and Isaac symbolically represents the Son Jesus. Here God is *prophetically foreshadowing* His Son being sacrificed at (or outside of the city as the scapegoat) of Moriah, where the Ram *prophetically foreshadows* the Father providing the Holy Substitute. Another type of damah is Jonah 1:17 and Matthew 12:40 being a *fulfilled prophetic teaching* And there's the “Victory over the Amalekites” and the damah that is recorded in Exodus 17:8-12. Who do you suppose that Moses (also a type of Messiah ) was portraying and looked like, from the valley and bottom of the hill as a silhouette, with his arms outstretched, and with Aaron and Hur on either side? What do you suppose that this *prophetic damah foreshadows and fulfills* in regard to *Victory over death* there? Or as Joseph being a type of Messiah that was sent to preserve life, attained his position to do so at 30 years of age (Genesis 41:46.), Jesus was baptised and Anointed by the Father with the Holy Spirit to become the Christ (anointed), the Messiah (anointed) to preserve life at 30 years old too (Luke 3:23.). There is a significant amount of knowledge that can be gleaned through the Holy Spirit based upon what God has *hidden below* the surface and literal portion of the text.

What about Luke 21, parallel with Matthew 24?

Off the top of my head what do you do wth all of Jeremiah 31. The new covenant even though they broke the old one. The time of relationship restored. God, evenn says if the geaven can be measured or the natural order of the sun, moon, fail then He would forget about Israel and bringing them to the land. There is,more about their future in the land.

The disciples never left Jerusalem even though there was great persecution. Paul had revelations the discoples didn't have. Paul didnt run to the disciples after his salvation to find out every,thing Jesus taught them. In fact God kept them apart. Jesus was born under the law. He coud not offer salvation ynder grace until after his death, burial ,, resurrection

I realize many Christians dont get into prophecy. When God days It will come to pass I believe it. There are prophecies yet tp be fulfilled that were not conditional toward Israel. From Daniel to Revelation there are definitely times of3 1/2 years or 42 months where specific things happen. In Isaiah there is a prophecized timeof many (1000) years where there is,no war,,animals dont devour each other or people ,etc,peace. That hasnt happened that I know of. Zechariah says He will be king over all the earth forever , ruling from Israel There is an exile of jews to all nations and God said He wouldbringthem back to the land, He also said the land would be desolate when His people are not there. Mark Twain testified to that just over a hundred years ago.The disciples asked Jesus when will the kingdom come and what are their positions . He told them they would rule the 12 tribes and,said,He didnt know when He would return. Why didn't Jesus tell them that this,kingdom thing is,gone. Paul says Israel is in a partial blindness but God would save them, even if a remnant. In Zechariah there is a horrible attack on Israel. Jesus predicted a time of tribulation upon Israel unlike any in the world. He waa speaking to the disciples the jews. Jesus told the disciples not to go to the gentiles. The noted commission was in that order. But Israel rejected Him. Hesus performed signs and wonders to prove who He is, the promised messiah. That's why the disciples could do miracles, to get Israel ready for the king. The OT is full of passages about jews evangelizing the gentiles but they could not do it. They could not keep the law.

This channel is a blessing!

The title has Dr. Heiser's name misspelled. 😜

Me too

Miss the late great Doctor!

Also, regarding your commentary on the Hercules guy episode, you are actually giving credence and street cred that those pagan gods had a form of authorities or power over the cosmos, how do we reconcile with the many scriptural examples that try to depict those so called as inanimate objects?

How do we reconcile your theory with the limited number of the offspring of the Nepalim in their time in comparison to the huge number of the world population now? What I mean by that is, if the off spring of the nephlim are the ones at work in the world, their number must pale in comparison to the world population and they cant reproduce since they are dead, thus creating a huge disparity? I am not saying that every person have to have their own “guardian evil force” but still, unless they are Omnipresent…?

The Prewrath is actually sooner than after the mid trib. The sixth seal mentions the day of wrath has come... Revelation 6:15-17 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Luke 21:36 is about a pretrib rapture...Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

No rapture... one return not 3

Thank you for taking out the back noise on this video.

Great timing...

What an ignoramus! ‘Mormons say Jesus is the brother to Lucifer” Bullcrap. He does NOT know one thing about Mormonism except 5th hand gossip. As a scholar he should read primary sources but he could not be bothered! What a lazy ass so call scholar. If he cannot articulate Mormon view of God, he should shut up. LDS view is God the Father (Elohim) has an Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ who chose to be our Savior and Redeemer, then the Holy Spirit. A godhead if three separate entities united in purpose but not essence. Just as the bible teaches. Lucifer is a fallen angel who when he was in heaven was in relationship with Jesus who was in charge of the angels. That is the ‘brother’ you talk about. By that, everyone is ‘brother’ to Jesus as a fictive kinship relationship ubiquitous in all religions. Stop lying about LDS theology when you never ever opened a book on it. Shame, Dr Heiser. Your willful ignorance and slander is punished by God. Just as anyone’s bigotry against the Jews would be.

Oh how I miss this wonderful servant. He had a huge impact on my life as well as many many others. Thank You Yahweh for blessing us through his teachings🙏🏻 I will be forever grateful 🙏🏻

So the passage isn’t about “soul sleep”. It’s concerning those who are “asleep” when the thief in the night comes. So don’t be asleep spiritually. Be on guard for when the Lord comes.

Do you happen to have a link to the whole video???

@1:04:50 The kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven are not the same.

Mainline Churches of Christ in the house.

THANK YOU. Dr Heiser is missed so much!

Rapunzul….VERY interesting comment. i’m 80 years old and have always believed the dispensational premillennial view. Just accepted that you had to split off the 70th week of Daniel, etc etc. but 5years ago, by accident, ran into the Preterist view. What a simple pure view of scripture. And Jesus’s predictions about returning before that generation ended can just be accepted, no twisted scripture like at the end of a certain verse, POOF! Now we’re post 2024.

Rapunzul….VERY interesting comment. i’m 80 years old and have always believed the dispensational premillennial view. Just accepted that you had to split off the 70th week of Daniel, etc etc. but 5years ago, by accident, ran into the Preterist view. What a simple pure view of scripture. And Jesus’s predictions about returning before that generation ended can just be accepted, no twisted scripture like at the end of a certain verse, POOF! Now we’re post 2024.

Fascinating stuff, thank you for your hard work! Did you ever write a book then?

No rapture- but what is true- & absolutely is that people want to be right! I was reassured that its OK not to know for sure- all I really care about is that Hes coming and I can be with Him. It doesnt matter if its on earth or a different realm because I cant begin to imagine either one. Trying to de code the future and end times makes me worried, confused, frustrated and obsessing on things I have no control over & He has not made clear