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The Best Tennis Grip For Your Forehand...Eastern!
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Is it possible that the best tennis forehand grip could be Eastern even though most of the top pros use semi western? I suggest you consider the possibility that the tennis world isn't what it seems and take the red pill. #tennisforehand #tennistechnique
Is it possible that the best tennis forehand grip could be Eastern even though most of the top pros use semi western? I suggest you consider the possibility that the tennis world isn't what it seems and take the red pill. #tennisforehand #tennistechnique
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@@Cedrickarlovsky Thanks!
I agreed
Also, since everyone is used to loopy spinny forehands coming their way, when you blast these people with effortless flat forehand power using an eastern grip, they'll not only have trouble lifting the ball up (since semi western through western makes it harder due to wrist position) but they also will get overwhelmed by the pace of flat shots, thus literally making their lives harder. this is the reason, i believe, that new gen players hate playing against older folks who come from a flat forehand era. if these old folks could get fit again like in their youth, i kid you not that boris becker would beat some current top players, with the handicap of giving him a modern racket like a pro staff v14
It's an individual choice. Whatever works for you. Some of the greatest used a Western/semi-western forehand grip for the forehand topspin ground stroke. When they volleyed, they changed to the continental. They used the Eastern also to hit a slice. That's what Bjorn Borg and Laver did. Connors on the other hand, used an Eastern forehand grip all the time. He had a monster flat and occasionally sliced forehand. It was one of the best ever strokes. However, he could not hit topspin to save his life.
I have always preferred the eastern because it is so much easier for me to control the racquet face when it is aligned with my palm.
This may be very helpful.
I hope so!
Does anyone else notice the boy 👦 at 5:24 was “makin-it-rain” on the girl on the floor. Had me 😂 crying.
I worry about that kid
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100% agree!
@@jasonhe6947 🤙🎾
Excellent!
Thanks!
I agree but do Medvedev and Zverev really use Eastern grip?😳🤔
@@watcher687 As far as I know 🤷🏼♂️
@@VictoryTennisPrograms Zverev and Medvedev are using semi western forehands, Federer and Dimi yes, they are using eastern, other user of the eastern forehand are: De Minaur, Bautista agut, Delpotro (retired), Gasquet.
This is the best description that I have seen yet on how to control the direction of the ball. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment!
False. Novak has the best forehand in history.
All the major teaching pros of the mid-20th century agreed that the western and semi-western grips are incorrect and will hold you back from your potential. However, changing court surfaces (switching from bad grass to asphalt) eliminate much of their disadvantage. But in the 1980s John McEnroe noted that changing racket technology was helping players with flawed technique reduce their disadvantage relative to better players. As racket technology continued to develop it got worse -- it gave players with flawed technique (western and semi-western grips) a decided advantage at the pro-level. Only with excessive topspin created using incorrect techniques allowed balls hit with such powerful rackets be kept in the court. But here's the thing; recreational players are never going to hit with that much power; so they're never going to need that much topspin; so they're never going to need such extreme grips. What they need is ball control, and it is easier to develop accuracy using correct grips. (As for what is correct versus incorrect technique in tennis, see Ed Faulkner's classic _Tennis: How to Play it; How to Teach It_ first published in 1967. Faulkner coached Davis Cup teams going back to the 1920s.) Also, note this. A pro career is only 20 years long. A recreational player should be able to play from age 15 to 90. For most of that time (say, age 40 and above) his biggest challenge in singles is going to be court coverage. And it is easer to cover the court using an eastern grip and one-handed backhand than with a western grip and two-handed backhand -- both because you have more reach, and because you can hit from the closed stance that running towards the wide shots will leave you in. (Pulling the ball cross-court with a western grip while hitting on-the-run will usually involve leaping into the air so you can turn your shoulders around. Just try repeatedly doing THAT when you're 70.)
I switched to a semi Western but. I think it's an individual thing. You have to experiment to find the right one for you.
Sure
Such a stiff/ tense swing. No thank you!
"Who watches players like Zverev, Medvedev, Juan Martin Del Potro, Federer, Grigor Dimitrov and says, you know those guys really need to hit more topspin". Many commentators have said this about most of these guys when it comes to the clay. Medvedev has even said it about himself regarding his game on the clay. For most of them, clay is their weakest surface due to less topspin on the forehand. For Zverev, clay is one of his best surfaces, but his forehand is considered by commentators to be his weakest shot by far, and it certainly has less topspin than the forehands of Nadal, Alcaraz, Sinner, Ruud, etc. I'm not saying that Eastern isn't a great option for most people, especially since most people don't play on the clay as much. It's a great grip overall with many advantages, but it absolutely does make it a little harder to hit maximum topspin & makes it little harder to hit higher balls. Eastern puts less strain on the wrist when hitting flat (and possibly more accuracy like you said) but puts more strain on the wrist when trying to hit maximum top spin.
Totally agree..... we are all humans with the same body parts.... so arguing that its different for everyone is BS. Eastern is technically the best grip. Period.
Well this comment section isn't going at all how I thought it would 😅
I think that the Eastern also benefits people who are looking for a quick low bouncing ball to follow in and volley. It may also be better for doubles, given its speed and lower net clearance. Thanks for the video!
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Nice video. Interesting that contact is further away from your body naturally. For years I was too close to the ball and I think that’s why many of my balls either had side spin or sailed long consistently. Taking a step away and extending my hitting arm has helped my forehand immensely. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
2 years ago I changed from eastern to semi western … it was the best thing I could do to my forehand 😂
Maybe the SW is theoretically the best grip for very high levels of play, but I found a more eastern grip works for me, in my experience: - Way easier to hit low balls (big plus for me since I play often on lower bouncing courts) - Technique is less complicated than SW or W, in particular it's easier to hit simple dependable "pusher" shots which are needed in long tough matches - No need to change grip to hit volleys - No need to change grip to hit BH slice - I agree on your point about versatility Though I don't use a "pure" eastern, my heel pad sits firmly on bevel 4 and the knuckle is on bevel 3. Having both on bevel 3 (or on bevel 4) feels extremely unnatural for me.
@@welkin993 Yeah my eastern is more on the bottom of 3 which is more comfortable for me.
Nice video. I think eastern is more intuitive than SW or W. The reason I haven’t switched from my aggressive SW is because of the deeply engrained muscle memory. I just don’t have the time to retrain as a Rec player and practicing both grips at once seems like it will be unlikely to succeed. Any thoughts on how to make the transition?
@@joeabrams4131 I hear ya! Sometimes I'll have a performance junior close to college tennis that wants to improve and they have a semi-western. I do not change grips in this case and explain the pain to come if they chose so. If your ranking doesn't affect your future I'd say just do it. I think it's important to know what changes though to work through it. I.e. Contact moves further away and slightly less in front. Your brain has programmed a relationship and position to the ball that will have to work out. Also, the old wrist position will cause the racquet to be open and you'll fly balls for a bit. All well worth it for the sustainability aspect imo.
I like (and I like my players) to have options. That's why I use and teach the eastern forehand grip! It all starts with the grip!
@@cjcycledude Amen to that coach!
Alright let's hear it you blue pill taking trolls...
This is Roger Federer’s forehand grip…ahhh enough said 🤷🏻♂️
@@JLZR1 😂 Right!?
I think you are right about this - because I try to play some with my left hand as I have a nasty case of golfer's elbow. And can only hit forehands with eastern grip with the left. The big advantage IMHO is one you didn't really talk about. It takes less coordination to hit with eastern. This is because you can swing more through the ball and less low to high to square the racquet face. Few tennis pros want to admit this but hitting more low to high means you need more skill and coordination. The easiest way to hit a tennis ball forehand is with an eastern grip and fairly straight through (with modest topspin) or with continental - and fairly flat. Go out and try your left hand - you will see that in no time.
@@albertcamus5970 Makes sense that it's easier to hit straight into the ball. Have never had a beginner close their face and come from beneath it...if only that net wasn't there! Argh!
It also works the other side of the brain, and when you go back to your dominant hand your strokes are much better executed…
Great tip. I frequently go out on court and start rallying with my non-dominant hand, left hand in my case. It makes me concentrate on the basic fundamentals. Then, when I start rallying with my dominant hand, I apply those same fundamentals to "clean up" my normal strokes. It's amazing how my normal strokes improve. That's because normally you don't think about the technique you're using. Non-dominant practice makes you think about it, then take it back to you normal play, purging some deficiencies. Great video.
Very cool!
Is this Jeff Lewis? I’m certified through this program so I should definitely know.
It is I!
Do you live in Houston now Jeff or Arkansas
@@stevenmckelvey80 Houston!
I said those exact words last night giving a volley lesson to beginner tennis players explaining that using a continental grip makes it difficult to hit a forehand volley because you have to contort your wrist in a very uncomfortable position. Thank you for speaking the truth.
Body back in balance by playing with opposite hand...haunn..super tip.
So u are saying the change their grips for volleys ? Prove it with examples
I think most play composite on the forehand and take the backhand more behind them. I think many adjust the palm pad so yes change grips. Plenty of video evidence. I'm sure ill post some eventually. Thanks for commenting.
@@VictoryTennisPrograms I would agree Adam is fairly eastern on his volley grip but Elbert or mac not so much . Definitely have to change grips in some difficult situations
Just relax your hand a bit
Great tip! I saw Zverev doing left handed forehands to add more spin on his backhand, also saw Iga Swiatek doing that doing pre-match training at us open.
What is that simulator?
It's a tennis simulator.
@@VictoryTennisPrograms it looks amazing !!
Very nice tips!! Thanks a lot!
Thank you!
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Tf do you know, michael.
Federer's shoulder slant at the start of the swing and the way his dominant shoulder ends level or above his support shoulder also grooves the upswing without making it a conscious movement in the arm.
I had four lanes like this back in Aiken, South Carolina in 1986. It was called PEP's Tennis Center. I had a hand painted court with motifs from the FO, AO, Wimbledon and U.S. Open. Nice. Bon chance.
Like the Vic Braden Tennis College lanes?
I like the videoI l love the Elvis dance. I agree that rotation & segmentation are the A & the O of the serve.
Thanks for commenting!
The dog was epic.
Quite a difference!
I have waited for one that is actually a good advice, but I found none. Especially since there are lots of terrible tips that can really hurt you, not only for serving. So well done in that one. Regarding the tossing arm I don't know if swinging it back is a good idea, because you can release quite some momentum into nowhere. And balancing your motion is done by jumping into the court anyway. But one thing I must correct: there is no such thing as a certificate for tennis coaches IN THE US. I live in Germany, and of course there is one. I'm about to get mine next year if nothing bad happens.
I hit the ball thin on my kick serve...it has that krissh sound and it also kicks but it doesnt penetrate after bouncing...
Yes like swinging straight up on the forehand. All rotation, no compression. "Swing along the baseline" is a tip that I think isn't completely accurate and can cause this. The followthrough certainly can finish much more along the baseline but the swing path still has to go forward AND up. Good luck!
@@VictoryTennisPrograms thanks for the reply....I'll try to work on it...can it be due to my swing path which is 6 to 12 or 6 to 1 o clock....will it improve, say , I go 7 to 3....
@@niceguy5430 Not trying to go up so extremely might help with racquet head speed but you need to think of the forward dimension. Having the elbow travel forward more would create more compression. Just a subtle change can make all the difference.
Good stuff, Coach. I whole-heartedly agree.
Thanks for the comment!
That's more then great. It's an absolutely indispensable to get the right serve ))
Brilliant! Toss to the swing 😊
Very reasonable explanation and drills, I will practice them