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I don’t know why you would constantly argue to skip over stuff because we have probably seen it already when the title of the video suggests you’d be explaining what happened lol

Yah not watching this Garbo, Druid sucked, tank sucked, rogue sucked, mage sucked, priest was good. Yamamto made the call to run so is at the most to blame , also sounds like a whiny child too

Far out, honestly i think people take this stuff way too far. Bunch of grown people acting like children. I get that some people really take it seriously but when it gets to this point, they really need to calm down. Hopefully everyone involved is doing alright and can make ammends.

Riddle me this, if the call to run is made, and that just means run out all hope is lost. Why does the mage even bother to use a max rank spell and wait around at just the edge of the encounter and not just bee line to the zone or hearth? Also answer that if he was just being a good boy and running out like told, why did he also not come back to help when called to? It almost seems like calls can be made hastily, and the situation can change. Crazy, how dynamic the game is.

Cant believe this got to where it is. I have never seen a group of lvl 60s play so poorly and be so childish. Who demands that a fully grown man admits fault after a failed raid in WOW? its even crazier that they kicked him outta the guild for that. straight up a buncha bitches.

I think this wipe was now manufactured by streamers to increase views and generate drama. The list of issues are a mile long but everyone is ignoring them. First pull was terrible and should have been pulled back back by the tank. The mob is even interrupted from casting with a shield slam. This would have been extremely simple to pull the group back. The boss patrols through this area. A kill order is established with Skull and X. The rogue is attacking the mastiffs, marked X, and not following the kill order and is taking aggro off of the tank. The rogue has extremely low dps throughout this encounter. Druid uses his sprint for no reason to run behind the ogre mage. There is no reason for him to use sprint. It creates the situation later on that he cannot use it to either save himself or the group. Druid ends up pulling the other group nearby. Druid and rogue stop attacking and just start chaotically moving. Mage starts AoEing. Tank is not maintaining threat on the mobs. Pretty sure tanks have an AoE taunt that would have allowed them to burn everything down quickly. Run is called. With the all the adds slowed, everyone is able to get a safe distance way. At this point everyone is safe. At this point the tank is jumping he stops, turns around and runs back into the mastiffs, then turns around again, forcing a daze debuff and a 8 second slow debuff. Why no one talks about this is actually odd. Shortly after the mage turns around and if I was the mage player I would have been confused. The tank and trash mobs are not in position. Had the tank not stopped, the mobs would have been range of that blizzard the slow debuff would have been reapplied. The boss has a shield slam and a knock back mechanic. The boss is running towards 3 players. Who has threat/aggro? Did the blizzard from earlier pick up threat from the boss? Did the current blizzard cause the mage to get aggro? Did the mage not have aggro and since he is casting going to be charged/ shield slammed into other adds? It is extremely dangerous for the mage to run through the boss. If he blinks through the boss there is a high chance he will be charged and knocked back into other groups of mobs. This is a tribute run, there are mobs everywhere. Why are players not strafing as they are running away to avoid the daze debuff? We can see the druid and rogue doing very little. The rogue doing less. The tank even gets stuck running into a corner as he is running away. Druid gets aggro and using cat form? and not bear form. Druid can shapeshift to remove movement debuffs. Rogue is using blind on the boss instead of stun. I am not sure, but it looked like the rogue was trying to be knocked back into another group using blind which would have caused a complete wipe right at the entrance of Dire Maul. Which did nearly happen. So what is more likely? Streamers are ignoring most of the facts, and creating drama, or that streamers are extremely bad at a video games.

Shut up and get out of my recommends. Nobody cares about this anymore. It's done. Leave it.

You forgot to list his archmage robes that restores mana as well,

Bro is yappin in this one

yamato called 3 times run, so pirate ran. he was already halfway out when yamato all of a sudden changes his mind. whats he supposed to do? multiple mobs were pulled by the tank, as he ran the wrong way. even the boss was pulled as the tank ran straight in the middle. then blaming it on one person that followed the call to run? come on now. sure he made a mistake but the run was choas and lost already. yamato is known to be a toxic player in LoL to begin with, and he made the call to kick without even talking to soda. soda said he would have cancelled the kick straight away even if he was told about it. yamato made seriously bad calls, the tank was doing stupid things too. but putting blame on pirate just because he followed the call? get out of here. he was getting death threats because of everyone dogpiling him for no good reason, sure he should have said sorry or my bad at some point. but i get him too, you wouldnt want to be in that call either while yamato was being a toxic lol player again.

You are out of your mind for making a presentation about 2 people who died in HC after a bad pull. This is a VIDEO GAME. Hundreds of people die on HC every day. You sir are insane... move on with your life. I have no idea why this video came up on my feed. Hitting dislike button and moving on.

Only real wow players know Yamato killed the two players and pirate held true wake to clip farm bs

Nice video! This is great for a returning or new player! I read on the Bartender4 website that it is actually broken and doesn't work on TWW, is this true?

Remove all addons, ban all rmt, remove token, remove all "convenience" added since tbc. Make leveling ten times longer.

It's just weird to have a second job just to get end game items. It shouldn't work like that...

i fully agree

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Since I play with a controller “console port” if blizzard banned all addons I would just have to find another game to play.

Not having addons turns PvP into PvSTPWTD Player vs. Software Telling Players What To Do

i've enjoyed the game primarily on the classic/sod side without addons, aside form somethin like auctionator just for the ease of posting mats on the Auction House. Point being, addons take away a lot of the immersion and some extent player skill, kinda had that thought coming into this before a full watch, still will say the video is entertaining and your thoughts are justified.

addons should be banned.

Blizz ui have gotten a lot better now, but nameplate addon is still a must for any content really.

lots of cope in these comments from people that enjoy using cheats in their game.

takes one click to install addons now. If I didnt want addons I'd go play swtor, or ff14.

agree

Your argument that most raiders below Mythic don’t have weak auras…needs actual data not just belief.

At first glance, removing addons might seem like a good idea, but in reality, it’s unworkable for a live-service game like WoW. The time, effort, and money required would be astronomical, essentially requiring Blizzard to rebuild the game from the ground up-while still maintaining their regular development schedule. Pausing everything to overhaul the entire system just isn’t an option. The ripple effects of such an endeavor would be massive. Multiple expansions hampered by either subpar content quality or painfully slow release cycles. Even if they somehow pulled it off, the changes needed - altering combat pacing, rethinking animation and VFX looks / workflows, overhauling UI design, and recalibrating game complexity, would fundamentally alter the game. It wouldn’t feel like WoW anymore, alienating long-time players and splintering an already splintered and diminished community. Technically, the challenge is insane. Addons have been part of WoW’s ecosystem for nearly two decades. They're baked into how content is designed, from encounter mechanics to information delivery. Stripping them out means not only redesigning core systems but also ensuring they perform seamlessly across a sprawling, interconnected game world. Even if Blizzard could simplify certain aspects to reduce addon dependency, there’s no guarantee it wouldn’t backfire. Tweaks that seem small can cascade into game-breaking issues, destabilizing balance and frustrating players. And this is where people (not aimed at you, to be clear) often underestimate the complexity of these changes. Just because you can explain the idea in one sentence doesn’t mean the execution is simple. In reality, it’s extraordinarily complex with a significant risk of catastrophic failure. At best, Blizzard can only aim to reduce addon reliance incrementally-anything more is a logistical and creative nightmare.

I stopped playing WoW a long time ago because you don't play the game itself anymore, you play the add-ons instead.

looking healthy broski keep it up

Health and cast bars arent showing up for me over friendlies and enemies. How do I fix this?

i lost in the rest of the video, but if you think addons are not needed. Let's see Blizzard show the data them killing the boss without any of these addons, pure 100% stock UI. eg Fyrakk, intermission 1 of mythic requires players to soak correct colour orbs in a split second after dropping to the ground. Good freaking luck trying to coordinate 10/10 players in that split timer as the colour you get is randomized. Anyway good luck with your content/channel. I for one would like if Blizzard can fix their engine to use more cores as they have created some scenarios where a million adds spawn and everyones fps is gone to the shit bucket, regardless of Stock or UI modded.

You compare Kripp, but he has DBM tracking timers for boss abilities...

Why are people trying to compare FF to WoW. FF and WoW is a completely different audience. If you want the FF experience, why not just play that game and leave WoW alone? Blizzard already started with testing a few hidden aura mechanics, that has been pretty good this tier. We haven't needed to press macro buttons, as the visual clarity has improved from DF to to TWW. We also have another massive improvement to clarity on how swirly's interact. If Addons automatically kill a boss, then we would see everyone with CE.

I get what you are trying to say. But aren't the addons you try to refer to already not needed for the 'average' player? Those specific weak aura's are for try hard content. (while blizzard should anyway do something about buff/debuff tracking the basic UI).

Yikes...terrible take. Video highlighted shows, multiple addons running. If you want a addon free world, there is FF14.

This video is kind of useless, the thumbnail is misleading and we don't see any data of Before/After. What i do use SAM is for profiles, which is great since you can set a Raid Profile and a Overall Content Profile. Biggest thing about addons/fps is using things like WeakAura and crazy amount of Weakauras.

I tried to get my wife to play the game with me. After I installed it for her, I mentioned that she had to download and customize all these other things for the game first to actually be able to play it properly. She said "why can't I just play the game normally" then sat down to watch Selling Sunset instead, because it made the game seem too overly complicated to her. Remove addons. It is a HUGE barrier to entry for new players.

Well yes that's what addons are for its for making it so that higher level players can have less cognitive overload when they are doing that tier of content, I'm sorry to say this but a lot of current high-end content you need at least some form of addon to help with timers, cooldowns, or visual clarity. It is a competitive advantage, because that's what it was made for. If you want a more laid back and simpler game go play classic or normal raid. People are gonna use every advantage they can, its called being resourceful. And anyone can install an addon people get paid to do this stuff, this honestly just sounds like a skill issue. You want the game to be easier, well guess what a lot of people play 20 keys and Mythic Raids because they want a challenge they don't want to play hold your hand simulator. Some people like getting straight to the point, I don't want sit there for 20 minutes figuring out what the bosses does when I can just watch a timer or use the journal to see what the mechanic does. You say it would be a net good for the game but it wouldn't people don't want to relearn the entire game just because someone wanted them too. If you don't know how to do your rotation or know when to pop a defensive that's your fault, not the addon. Your preaching to the choir, I'll say this again if you want a more casual or easier experience go play open world and do quest go play classic or just do easier content. Don't blame addons if you cant do that level of content then just don't do it but let those who can do it play their game.

If u think u can play modern wow in CE / keystone 15+ level without ANY addons, u need a straight jacket. If ur argument is that the developers need to tone the game down to the point so people can play without any addons, then the entire game would have to be completely re-designed. No humans are capable of tracking dozens of buffs and procs that I need to react to asap to play my class at an optimal level while tracking what's going on. Your and others arguments of DBM/BW giving edge is also really stupid. If you have done any serious mythic raiding, you will know soon realize wiping on the same boss 100+ times, you don't even have to look at the timer after certain point. Does it help you plan stuff out when it's your first time vs that boss? Yes. Does that give you any advantage? No. Why? Cuz one could EASILY just watch a video of someone else killing that boss beforehand to understand the mechanics and their timings down to seconds if they wanted to. Using your same logic, then we must ban every single content creators who upload these guides on bosses, classes, and keys all should be banned as well, since they give an advantage to certain people, splitting the player base. Just play the game as the developers made the game out to be. They have exposed certain APIs to be usable by addon developers for reasons. They will design the bosses and mechanics around that as well. You think it's unfair, then keep yourself at a significant disadvantage and keep playing. But there is no need for crying that usage of addons is a form of cheating.

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you don't need add-ons for raiding, full stop. they do, however, make the game infinitely easier. honestly though, it's not like it matters. the warcraft playerbase is one of the most idiotic, skill-less communities i've ever seen. people said fucking raszageth was hard. raszageth. the wow community is dogshit. no matter what blizzard does, people will bitch. so they may as well ignore 99% of the community, because they are fucking brainless.

100% agree this would even the playing field for everyone

i get what you're saying, and i know your title is clickbait. but without certain addons i would not physically be able to play WOW. the accessibility from the ones I use allow me to play. Unless bliz implements these (they wont, and if they do they will be half-assed) i would have to quit.

What you ask for is called Final Fantasy 14. Go play that if you despise addons so much. I have no problem with them. There is no argument to make about whether "some people cant get them or dont know about it". Everybody can get every addon. There is nobody in the world not being able to get addons. If you just play the game, people will tell you what addons you need or not. So these arguments are completely invalid. There is an argument to make about certain mechanics that require weakauras to even remotely succeed in a fight. Like Ovinax mythic for example. There I can see an issue. If you dont use weakauras there, the fight is extremely hard and borders at impossible. I wouldnt advertise banning addons over this.

Any more than 2 addons is 2 many i reckon, weakauras, details!, done

In general i play almost without addons in everything, pve and pvp, and i'm doing good overall so i don't understand why people sometimes feel obligated to use addons which for me translates to skill issue but i get that some people grew too attached to them and now can't see the game the same way as before so yes, i think the best it's to get rid of addons so players can focus on the game instead of the ritual of getting the best guide that tells you everything beforehand

Removing timers while fights are still 100% scripted is a stupid solution cause that would lead to even casual guilds raiding with 21 players and one of those is just dedicated to watch at a timer he started at pull and is reading the boss script down. And no one who ever played a souls game or other games with RNG based boss patterns wants this in wow cause that makes bosses impossible to balance.

Ngl bro but if you do mythic raids you are not above average you are the 1% that keep the game alive, average players are people doing normal raids , hc raiders are above average

This opinion is like asking people to do all math work in your head instead of using calculators lol. The former is simply not that fun for many people.

Your arguement lacks a key component to it; evidence of what you're arguing for and why it's worth the arguement. You state that the game shouldn't have addons, alright fine, you brought up good points, but what does that look like on the other side? The game's stock UI is fine, changing it is just vanity at that point, I'm sure people could live without Elvui and other simmilar addons just fine. All the boss timers and major mechanics are alerted to you by the default UI as is, so that's alright there as well Personal responsibility, abilities, CDs, and proccs. This is where things get hard. Some classes get lucky, their built in procc information is all they need. But alot of other classes don't have that. Maelstrom Weapon for shamans, for example, only shows the growth of 1-5, but not 6-10. Meaning if you benefit hard from 10 stacks lightning bolt, but use it on 6, then you just lowered your own DPS. Hidden timers. I neglected something in the boss section, but this applies to so much more; not everything is alerted to you by the default UI. Enrage timer, certain boss CDs, that sort of thing. Taking away addons, even with some compensation, just won't work, wide spread. But. To play the game at an average level, you absolutely do not need addons. The game is friendly towards that. This isn't WoD and the trinket passing boss.