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@@danielhatt9181 no, I talk too much 😂 I keep the sound when I’m going alone otherwise I just cut it.

@@trailing_space 😄👍🏼

@@pave_m 🤣

@@romyfoehn1523 thanks! Sometimes I do film until the summit cross, but here I wanted to document the blue trail from Seelisberg, after reaching the pass it gets pretty “regular” hiking trail.

@@Run4un thanks! If you have Strava you can check the map here strava.app.link/uR15PoUkFMb otherwise I may try to share the gpx somewhere else.

Ah ja, that's perfect, merci! 🤩

No, but it should be feasible (albeit not easy). We went up Zuestoll, Schibenstoll and Hinderrugg/Chäserrugg and then down with the red trail to Chammsässli, blue trail to Tschingla and again red trail to Walenstadtberg. It was pretty long day but you can shorten it by skipping Zuestoll and Schibenstoll.

Ah, I actually have the full route here ua-cam.com/users/shorts1_nmal_IfXE?si=Fq_JGy5m7bzcCpuT

@@trailing_space thx. I am far too scared to do this,nevertheless I like watching you brave guys. 😊

Generally all of Churfirsten is way easier if you go from the other side, and all of them can be tackled as a separate hikes. Zuestoll is the only one marked in blue (alpine hike) but it is still easier and less demanding than Paliis Nideri from Walenstadtberg. Paliis Nideri itself can be also a nice hike from the other side, there are no technical difficulties and you still get the spectacular view above Walensee.

@@trailing_space mit ist das Ausgesetzte manchmal zu viel. Ich weiß, dass es zu den Churfürsten unterschiedliche Routen gibt.

Ah, I didn’t know about the exit route rule, I’ll keep that in mind in the future!

What’s up? 😆

@@trailing_space ah shit sorry i misplaced the reply^^ will try your hike on sunday though!

Have fun, the weather looks great so far. You can also check nearby Bleikigrat if you are there.

@@trailing_space yeah we will do the bleikigrat too. Rain on saturday is sketchy though...

Gitzitritt might be a bit wet since it is in the forest, but it is pretty well secured. Bleikigrat should be fine (it is relatively easy).

Thank you!

Hi Matts! Thanks for the comment! The key point in the rain might be indeed a bit more difficult, so good call with turning back. As for the dog, it probably depends on the dog, but there is this one pretty vertical part where you would probably have to help the dog if he is not afraid of height. The camera angle is kind of forced since I’m using chest mounted gopro. It gives pretty good results, but it is more limited than for example head mount. When I record I usually just turn it on and forget that I’m wearing it mostly focusing on the trail. Pretty minimal effort 😅

If you go from the Bockmattli you can inspect the short ridge at the beginning and decide if it is for you or not. For me the traverse itself was more challenging as I think it is more exposed and narrow in some places. I did this trail in another direction as well, not sure which one would be considered better as second time always feels less scary :) Regarding rundwegs in that area, yea you eventually have to either hit some blue or unmarked paths.

@@trailing_space Thanks for the response. While I have your expert advice here, I will ask you a second question about the neighborhood. The white-blue-white route from Hohflaschen (1592) to Zindlenspitz (climb, ridge, and the Zindlenhang traverse) - how is the exposure there?

@@nadahalli The ridge part you can take a look here ua-cam.com/video/mqGYfDl4ZAI/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared, the traverse from what I remember is pretty safe. The climb to the ridge I haven’t done, but just looking at the map it shouldn’t be too difficult. As for the ridge, it is secured with chains and in that direction it goes uphill so it is also a bit easier, however there is some fair bit of exposure. Unfortunately I don’t have the full video here.

@@trailing_spaceThanks. I am surprised I didn't see this video in the list of your videos. I went through quite a few of them in the last few hours. Thanks for the great content. These trails are in my "Your desire is writing checks your fear can't cash" list.

😅 be careful with those, my rule of thumb is “if I’m not comfortable going up, it is better to go back now”. Also, I think one can train and improve tolerance for exposure, so it is good to at least try something new/more challenging from time to time. Going with other people also makes sense if you share the same goals.

This is from the Pilatus Ostgrat ua-cam.com/video/eAdRYu82eF0/v-deo.html It’s an optional fragment that starts around 41:00.

Glad it was helpful!

@@trailing_space what app do you use for navigation? I’m currently using Swisstopo and Bergfex. Any recommendations?

I also use swisstopo/SwitzerlandMobility, but for planning I mostly rely on Strava with its route planner and heatmap. It sometimes has more “paths” than swisstopo, plus the heatmap function tells me how many people actually commit certain routes. Sometimes the heatmap can be found in places where there are no paths on any map, then I usually try to find route description on Google (mostly on hikr).

I’ve got 2 bites this season so far 🤷‍♂️ The big ones are easy to spot so I just check the legs every time I pass through any higher grass. Stopped counting how many times I was lucky to remove them before they attach 😱

P.S. Diepen is literally full of sheep 💩 not coming back most likely 😬

Thanks! Regarding descent via S-ridge, I didn't find any reports on hikr and strava heatmap was also non-existent there so I just went back to the trail. I already had ~1900m in my legs since I started in Flüelen, so I picked the easiest/fastest option. Lidernen-Runde looks interesting, leave me some contact details here so we can talk more details in private. Re Diepen & sheep, it is not very well visible in the video, but I was actually following sheep herd almost until the summit 😂

@@trailing_space msg'd you on Instagram 🙂

We knew what to expect, because my friend did it years ago, otherwise we wouldn’t go on the wbw trail in those conditions. It is pretty well secured with the chains, but yeah, a bit sketchy when wet 😅

I had Salomon Speedcross 5 (no gtx) and my friend had some s/lab but I don't know the exact model.

@trailingspace2228 thanks! Amazing videos! 🤙😊

Thanks!

I haven't done this variant, but I saw on Hikr that most people do it in the other direction: Plattenberg - Brünnelistock. The NE ridge of Brünnelistock is described as T5 (some example www.hikr.org/tour/post157697.html ).

@@trailing_space thanks a bunch <3

Definitely! I was doing the full crossing from Immensee to Seewen and to be fair Zünggelenflue would be also a lot better in the opposite direction.

Slippery shoes + nagelfluh = problems 😅 I don't remember any particular part that would be problematic for me that day, but it was very dry. The video was recorded on July 22nd, 2021 and some of the chains looked like brand new, so maybe the situation improved.

I'm glad you liked it!

In the couloir (and on the way up) it was quite exposed, but you don't really feel it when you go up and most of the time it was easy to progress (except 7:13 maybe). On the traverse I could feel the exposition and there were some spots where I wouldn't like to slip. Comparing to my other tours, that one was one of the hardest.

I did this some years ago and I'm quite used to alpine paths. I did the descent and I was very happy when it was done. The couloir in the beginning was very steep but still okay, then I first had some problems to get to the traverse, it looks quite impressive and dangerous when coming down from Gocht. The traverse then would actually be quite okay if the path would be better. There was one point where it was really sandy / earthy and the path had slipped some. This was when I a bit freaked out. The other traverses were still quite demanding. I'd give this a T5(-) for sure. There are also absolutely no ropes or chains anywhere. I'd suggest you take the path over "Palis Nideri". It's not really marked but a lot easier, less exposed and there are security installations.

@@disdonc6012 Yea, Paliis Nideri turns out to be more civil 😂 compared to that one.

Normally I wouldn't put micro-spikes in that terrain either, but I chose my shoes poorly on that day. Nike Wild Horse are not the best for technical terrain and they are super-slippery when there is even tiny bit of wet grass/rocks... I usually take Salomon Speedcross for this kind of tours. Regarding the micro-spikes, I put them on in the middle of the traverse to get some more traction and they did a good job on the grassy and gravel parts. They also somewhat works in the muddy terrain.

In the earlier days there were no alpine paths nor a special alpine marking. All paths were makred red-white so yeah.

Hey, Thanks for the comment! Not sure if google translated it correctly, but I will try to answer ;) I didn't use via ferrata set at all, just holding to the steel cables (nice to have some gloves). If you want you can use via ferrata set as the route is really well prepared. Some easier spots are not secured at all.