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it's def a hard team to run, try the suthan team

E7 will be fine at the very least for another year. This is the seventh year of the game, the seventh anniversary will be massive

@zaidan4729 we're getting new cms though, so hopefully nothing is going to change regarding community communication with sg

@moriyae7 yea but it's still uncertain if the new cm communicate with playerbase the same as previous cm. Time will tell I guess.

@zaidan4729 yea time will tell which is why I dont like immediately jumping to SG has abandoned us there is no hope E7 is downhill from now on

@Living_Target i think its a masisve jump in logic to go from 2 cms left and a rumor that the entire office closed to "sg is abandoning the global community, you will never be heard by sg again" I think its at worst 3 years minimum if they drain the game starting now, i just dont agree with the doomposting happening so I think itll be longer than 3 years. Gimmick and Ryoko got revealed as CMs at the same time, which might not necessarily mean that they signed at the same time because they couldve just been shifted into a different role, but could indicate their contracts ending around the same time. This is largely guess work though as I dont know exactly whats SGs hiring process is of course. The VA strike doesnt necessarily mean that SG is planning to use AI voices. Afaik theyre striking against all gaming companies as a whole. So even pretty much all big games are getting hit by this. Not all VAs are compliant with the strike so the voices couldve just been replaced if needed by now (HSR has replaced a few VAs by now for example)

@moriyae7 I don't think it's a massive jump in logic so much as it is one of many possibilities (the worst one) and people are worried about the future of the game, in both content and balance and those two are mixing together. Your take is just as valid as any other though and I think that's important. It's impossible to really tell at this point unless you have some inside information I suppose. As far as I recall, Flan's voice did get changed despite the VA wanting to make it work with a temporary contract. I'm not sure about Peira.

Yeah I know some gachas have done this, not sure how common it is since I dont follow an extreme amount of gachas. Very niche but I know Bang Dream's KR server handed out a ton of premium currency when it went EoS. Love Live 2 probably has the most legendary EoS announcement though Im not sure if they gave anything since the game lasted 0 days before EoS announcement.

In hindsight Id say AI and Hall of Trials (moreos the new one) were relatively massive changes to E7 as well, so its probably a bit more like 4 big changes. Though yea like you said AI isnt very frequent. Hall on the other hand isn't really different from normal E7 gameplay, but it does add essentially consistently rotating PvE content that actually requires a bit of thinking (old hall was dual atker + dps for like half the rotations). I agree that Hall is basically the PvE content everyone has been asking for, because SmileGate is really bad at making the buffs force the new units so theres always a lot of room for theory crafting and typically within the runs itself, even with the best team, theres alot of work to be done as well. Like Kaliedoruby has outplaced me everytime he ranked, but I geargap him so clearly gear is not the deciding factor there. I get that a lot of people dont want to do PvE given that it's a PvP game, but there's enough people clamoring for Abyss floors where it makes me question if they want PvE content or just rewards. SG not being able to force units on most rotations is what makes E7 PvE fun to me as well, since we just have too many units to keep in mind and factor in as this point (Ice adin lol). Compared to other more recent gachas Ive played where teambuilding is extremely boring to get the best team, E7 allows for very wacky stuff in comparison.

Me not watching the videos is largely because it's just going to pile on top of my existing stress rn. I'm certain Ive heard the major talking points through friends and the community because everyone else watched the videos and the primary talking points are going to be the same (Ive seen a few minutes from Lunales stream but thats about it). It wouldve been better if I did a direct breakdown reviewing other people's videos, I agree, but I dont really have the headspace for it right now, mb. The source thing is rough because yes I cant share the exact messages which weakens my argument. All I can really say is that Ive been told the exact opposite of the rumors and I think the hiring of new CMs somewhats supports this unless like I mentioned, it ends up being all remote stuff. Even if it ends up being remote though, as long as the new CMs are stil for Global server I think its fine.

@@moriyae7 All good 👍I understand that you come from a place of passion, I just wanted to highlight that most content creators who produce 'doompost' content also come from a similar place. I believe that the majority of them genuinely want the best for the game, but the accumulation of unresolved issues in the community (concerns about arena, guild wars, recycled content, the lack of new systems, lack of collaborations, overall game balance, third-pick ban protection etc.) has led many players to develop a cynical perspective on the game. While I don't want the 'EoS doomposts' to become a self-fulfilling prophecy, I also believe that valid and constructive criticism shouldn't be dismissed in favor of blind positivity.

@RosariusEU yeah I think there should be criticism when necessary, like Ive made a few videos on the awful arena system. But in my opinion it doesnt properly apply to this situation where we've somehow arrived at "SG is cutting off Global completely" which is a bit too far imo. I also think most of the content creators genuinely care about the game, this isnt a direct attack on them so much as just the jumping to conclusions which presenting it as fact and posting without spending any time to verify anything

​​@RosariusEU I think that your framing of creators including Tristen's handling of this situation is extremely generous. As a random on stove/reddit/youtube/whatever social media platform, doomposting without thoroughly fact checking claims made has much lower stakes than irresponsibly doomposting as one of the few front-facing "mascots" of the game. Having passion for the game is NOT an excuse for the behavior displayed by a lot of the top content creators in the game over the last few days. They have platforms that they CAN use to mobilize the playerbase by raising concerns over any of the many valid complaints to have over the game that you and I may be cynical over. But that is not what they are doing, and frankly it is embarassing to time and time again(yes, it has not just been this past incident) have your games' promoted content creators trash the game and demoralize players to cash in on some quick views which does the OPPOSITE of call people to action and actually attempt to improve the situation.

I figured I was gonna forget to turn it back on if I turned it off cuz I use the default lobby and I like the viewing mode there lmao

Think they just released a patch for this actually. page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/10582169?boardKey=986

But I could be completely wrong about this and this could age like milk lmao

remember the last time they tried to make something new? right, some fanatic player hired a truck to park in front of SG building as a sign of protest. Its just so hard to satisfied bunch of crybabies.

@@FloppyhatCult well I'm not even saying something like the awaken potential system just new content in general. Are we not due for a new episode on the story? When is the last time we had a new abyss floor and a new challenge abyss? When is the last time we had a new labyrinth? Feels like they treat characters as new content and it doesn't feel good imo. I guess they give small side stories with them but it isn't much. Heck even the new rift is just re using the fire rift assets

​@@breathofmusic9526 not that I'm fine with it. But the game is a pvp game at the end of the day. So more abyss, labyrinth etc are just more chores to do rather than adding anything to the actual endgame. On the other hand, a new character changes what happens in the gamemode E7 is best known for (the rta system aka the main pvp gamemode). Again not saying just releasing new units is content or anything. But I don't think new abyss, labyrinth etc are content either. Or rather good content. Same can be said for story content cos right now it's at best just okay. Normal gacha standard story but occasionally we get some good ones (Schniel sidestory imo). They need to add big updates and *playtest* them with the community. For example 3P. Like it or hate it it was a massive change. I don't hate SG for attempting this change. What I do hate is that they literally wasted an entire presesson where they could have tested this mechanic and asked for the community's feedback. That's what I want. Use these preseasons as times to test new ways to execute the pvp gameplay to keep things fresh. And I guarantee you more people who play regularly would be happy with the game.

They might not have said EoS but I know that they've largely said that E7 will just be worse off than it was, which I think is a bit early to say. Regardless of what theyve said, the sentiment that theyve put forth and that the community is echoing right now is largely that E7 is on a fast track to decline. From what Ive seen theres pretty much only negative videos out and a lot of my problems are just with jumping the gun for content. This is the second time Ive felt like we've had a massive wave of negativity and not all of the info has been valid. I know for a fact that alot of people quit E7 the first time and I wouldnt be surprised if this second incident did the same, when in reality I think especially this time literally nothing happened regarding the game. The autopilot thing is a worry for sure, though to me E7 largely cycles through the same types of content anyways. We have had some big changes recently, like the Hall of Trials revamp and the PC Client being released, levels of effort that feel weird to be leading to just giving up on the game imo. For the point about people getting let go, that is unfortunately just life. People get let go all the time and it sucks, but theres not really anything we can do. Gimmick and Ryoko helped me out a bunch as well as they were in the Discord. I miss Luka Tala and Miiku a ton as they were very hands on with managing the Discord and I spent a lot of time talking to them (I was a bit late for Mashuu and Nue but theyre homies too). Mashuu and Nue were great CMs for a long period of time since E7 started. All of the CMs that filled their place did great though imo. Luka did great, same with Tala, with Miiku, with Gimmick and Ryoko. Im sure Arusel and whoever the new CMs are will be fine as well.

Im doom about the game when its necessary (Arena... please...) but I personally dont think this fits the bill and the amount of misinfo being spread is getting out of hand at this point

I think Ive heard enough via friends and the community (and Ive seen maybe a few minutes via a stream) that Ive heard the main talking points at least. It probably would have been better if I just directly did review content but I don't E7 content in general because 9 times out of 10 I finish a video feeling worse than I went in, and I dont need that right now

​​@@moriyae7 Doesnt make the people that are covering it wrong though..sounds like you're just coping maybe? Why make a review without seeing the whole of what others are saying as news.

@maosenju5444 I get that, but I tilted so hard during the returner drama that I ended right side up by the time I was done and I did not post a finished video. Right now Im not willing to take that level of mental damage but the core of "SG is shutting down Global and ceasing all communications with us" is something I felt like I could address without going into the exact details (I dont want to hear the dooming)

Nah, it's simple for me. I've been on and off since 2022, after playing 4 years every day. Mostly on the thoughts of "okay, they'll slowly improve and make new content". For all their many faults, I always praised E7 for its community outreach and being close to the fans. They listen to feedback more than any other Asian game I've seen. And they respond lightning quick. For me, these moves are the equivalent of slicing the Bridge. There's a longer path you can go aroind instead, but the message is clear. We aren't a focus anymore. We're just consumers now. But you right, as a game it'll be fine. It'll be fine the same way X will be fine. If you're just there to talk to friends, nothing is happening. If you're there for business reasons, nothing is happening (except losing your sanity over not being able to block crazy fans/trolls). If you were there for the "groups" that formed, the well has been poisoned may as well move on, it's not different from most other turned based Asian gacha as a westerner. Safe, low(er) budget, consistent slop to play on the toilet.

@raze2012_ The thing is, to me this is just a regular rehiring process. Its only because its compounded with Outerplane getting restructured (the game is basically dead already anyways) and the rumor of the entire Global branch getting closed which is purely a rumor. We're getting new CMs and Arusel has been communicating with us as much as he can. So I dont see any reason to believe SG is going to stop listening to the community (since we're getting new CMs and thats one of their basic jobs) besides people saying that all CMs were getting fired and Global branch was getting closed forever.

@moriyae7 I mean, I work in the game industry. So a "99% restructuring process" only brings up bad memories. You only do it for 3 reasons: moving the work to another county (and yeah, KR company. I guess it's anti-outsourcing 😅), slowly exiting a market, or AI. None of those really feel good. The best case is KR hires an English team in KR and we get much slower responses to global and much more broken English (like 99% of gacha games. I do/did also praise the game's clean localization). For me either way, it's losing great talent to make number go up. Maybe things will get better. But I've been saying that for what's going on 3 years now. did it really? Gear RNG still sucks (they just give us more charms now), RTA is still just a cesspool without making the game a full time job (mostly cuz gear. Which they just sell ore-rolled now). There's been zero new PvE content, just a few abyss levels I finished in 2 days and changing HoT to sell new unit. Guild wars has been stagnant for 5 years. Community outreach has been pretty bad the last year too. Has anything really been listened to outside of canceling the Awakening update over a year ago and not buffing Captain Flan? I might be missing something but it's been a quiet 2024 after a rough 2023 with Netmarble Guy. What got better for you that keeps you playing? I'm genuinely curious. I just don't see the appeal at this point playing past a year after you exhaust the PvE stuff unless you are dedicating yourself to RTA. At best you treat it like Genshin where you play the story updates and then dip back out.

@raze2012_ Like I said I think its possible that what you described will happen and everything said so far is just early PR, but I dont see the benefit of jumping to conclusions and throwing tens of thousands of people into hysteria when in reality we just do not know what is happening. For me I find it hard to pinpoint what PvE content people want. PvE content to me is teambuilding, and then decision making within the fight. For that reason Hall of Trials revamp is really good content because every 6 weeks the entire basis of the team changes, then every 2 weeks you need to move some pieces around. The unit the fight is designed around is only ever required for top 100 at worst, so that aspect isnt a huge deal to me. The constant teambuilding theorycrafting and needing to figure out the route is what makes it enjoyable for me (this is also why once I figure out the route I stop wanting to do the run, I just wanna figure it out lmao). Like for example theres a friend of mine who outranks me everytime. I have much better gear than him but he routes alot better. Id argue PFlan is a good example of when the community should be ignored, because she was going to get a pretty interesting rework and instead she gets a really mediocre buff to a bad kit so she remains bad. Also stuff like people begging for buffs to ML Lua and ML Hwa when they were both already good units. This is what contributes to growing powercreep because if a unit isnt S tier they need buffs. For whats gotten better for E7 to me, AI was nice, Hall of Trials revamp is nice, and then adding unique minigames to major Side Stories has been nice. Gear stuff has def improved, its still RNG but thats kind of the game itself. Compared to HoYo games where you whale for units, in E7 you whale for energy to get gear. I came into this game expecting this. Conversion boxes, epic crafting, Rift, major Rift adjustment to make it much easier to clear are some things i can recall off the top of my head for gear grind improvements, but im not expecting a major departure from the core of the game. I just farm gear, build up my units and do whatever content as it comes out whether its Hall, AI, Rift, or special side stories.

@moriyae7 like I said, I've told myself "it'll get better" for 3 years now. How much longer do I need to tell myself that? How long do I gotta be that meme dog in the fire? It wasn't just some overnight knee jerk reaction. It was a house of broken Windows and I'm getting tired of trying to keep fixing them in my head. It's still more liveable than being on the streets, but there's no though, care, and pride here anymore. And you're pretty spot on in your PvE analysis. I guess the difference is that I was pretty hardcore at that point and I lost all that team building and decision making, even much much later. I was apparently one of the first few dozen people to beat Dagger Sicar in the beginning, before the nerfs, for reference. Nothing is really challenging me even 2 years later with no grinding. I don't like the design philosophy. And following the design still gets me in top 50. What use is there in team building and creativity for me? I've peaked and still haven't even fallen behind as long as I get shiny new unit. So why was I still here? Well, it's fun building characters. That was what I was holding off for, not taking weeks of Wyvern (now Rift) to try and roll some non-min stats or the exact stats I don't want. It was always a fool's dream (but one I kept because Outerplane did fix this.... RIP. I know they'll take the wrong lessons there for CZN). And the community is great. Or, was. Even if SG is redoing the community outreach and nails it, this is making more CCs quit. So many quit over last year to pivot to other content already. Woth this, everyone I knew during the peaks of E7 are just gone or at best doing enough to get paid until they can pivot out too. I don't see an upside for me. Games not dying if you play it as a game. But the things that has me lingered after I got tired of the game are also burning away. (AI was great Btw. But depends on a guild and I had to quit mine a few years back due to layoffs. RIP)

This entire boss is just really unautofriendly. This Suthan team works fine without ever regearing, tried it and it was fine but not auto unfortunately. You'd want units with debuffs on S2 and but that makes your Break phase damage really sad. I think Cecilia + Sigret to cover debuffs would work with Smolya and Doris or something.

@legendtony1522 I think realistically arena meta is always going to be annoying due to sheer quantity of attacks you do. Way back in the day it was Riolet Ruele FCC +1 when we had no good way of killing Riolet which felt worse than the current meta for me, esp since pretty much every def has an answer rn. Regardless of what the meta is though, being locked out of the skystones really bad yea.

It's gonna be pretty hard to bring back the old Arena

@xFlow777 yea the points could be fine as is if it was possible to see the people in legend and possible to reach the higher tiers. The random champ 5 matches are pretty annoying cuz you just lose a few points for no reason even if you win

You're the reason why Harsetti exists

@freakris Tbh with Smolya being out most of the Harsetti defs are pretty easy to deal with. Meta always comes and goes, theres been worse ones in the past (the one right before smolya came out was worse imo too)

@ Yeah, true. I just do what I do to reduce the amount of BS I have to deal with in flag arena. Just wanna turn off brain and cleave fast, so I can play other games after my dailies. I will care again if they fix the point system in the flag arena though.

@@legendtony1522 It's the fault of SG who created ML Luna, it's complete madness to create this character, now to be viable you have to be an aberration of strength since you were competing with monsters in pvp, and now how are they going to come back? Sg destroyed the game.

It's only really been this season for me cuz of the weekly ss. The Arena pass and not needing npcs are good but the ladder changes have been not great.

Pretty rough without Brieg since theres not really any other units in that role with a non atk on S2. You'd probably just run something like Smolya Cecilia Doris Sigret instead, damage won't be fantastic but should make top 5%

@LeaksofLegends yea i think this rotation is a really easy dagger sicar cuz of the consistency and relatively easy to get units. I tried without regearing and its fine over 3 phases, regearing hits 21m in 2

@diandrasiswanto9432 since ayufi gets cr every time one of your units moves, might be related to your other 3 unit speeds. My smolya has her personal arti so brieg is getting cr everytime she moves as well

@moriyae7 I understand now, it seems your ysenya skill 1 is at +0? From total +9 ysenya. Because mine is grace of growth so my skill 1 is fully maxed, theres a slight difference in cr increase there. Fyi my other 3 units I have exact speed match your video, brieg 148, sulthan 121, and cermia 109. It must be the cr increase difference from ysenya skill 1

@diandrasiswanto9432 yeah that s1 mola would change smolyas cr alot

yea i dont expect to end t3 this week, i think if i pushed i could since my run shouldve been around 68m even without a good phase 2, but the odds are so low

for this rotation, the soul weaver only ignores yufine's break bar for 7 turns so its not infinite anymore

@NatureFactsDesk for the no rng team, off the top of my head no. Theres alot of people in the leaderboard rn running smolya brieg with doris/djb and surin/serila/haste tho, a bit of rng in that one but good enough

@jnhln5796 reason is i forgot after phase 1 lmao

yes, tho u made me realize i forgot something i forgot to account for Rem S2 proccing on wave 1 which lets ssb s2 proc at the start of wave 2 (given you have 65 eff, adds another 50% def break) Nahkwol arti would add a seperate 35-50% def break to ssb s2 Rem s2 has a 36% chance to proc on wave 1 so itd increase the winrate by a bit yeah it'd depend entirely on whether you have enough damage to kill wave 1 and kill wyvern without ddj though, at the very least 65 eff on ssb should be worth it edit: did some testing and math, i can just barely kill with 65 eff and elegaic on ssb. mine is only +15 so my winrate goes from 55.25% to 64.85%, good idea but its very gear intensive

@_Draiyden Correct, we're trading run consistency for the ability to friendship farm and level a unit instead.