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Seminar No. 34 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
A comparative course (September 2021 - ongoing), taught variously in the renowned PR of the Sidgwick Site at the University of Cambridge, Berkeley, California, and Amman, Jordan. The course draws on the Platonic, Aristotelian and Neoplatonic Greek, kalam, Avicennan and Akbarian Islamic, and post-Kantian Modern traditions, all from the perspective of Hasan Spiker's exemplarist philosophy. *Set text for seminar no. 34. Spiker, Things As They Are. This session recorded in September 2023
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Seminar No. 4 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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A comparative course (September 2021 - ongoing), taught variously in the renowned PR of the Sidgwick Site at the University of Cambridge, Berkeley, California, and Amman, Jordan. The course draws on the Platonic, Aristotelian and Neoplatonic Greek, kalam, Avicennan and Akbarian Islamic, and post-Kantian Modern traditions, all from the perspective of Hasan Spiker's exemplarist philosophy. *Set t...
The Two Mullas / with Hasan Spiker and Anwar Mangal / Episode Three / Open Q&A
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Two Mullas / with Hasan Spiker and Anwar Mangal / Episode Three / Open Q&A
Seminar No. 35 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course | Gelenbevi on al-wujūd al-mawhūm |
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A comparative course (September 2021 - ongoing), taught variously in the renowned PR of the Sidgwick Site at the University of Cambridge, Berkeley, California, and Amman, Jordan. The course draws on the Platonic, Aristotelian and Neoplatonic Greek, kalam, Avicennan and Akbarian Islamic, and post-Kantian Modern traditions, all from the perspective of Hasan Spiker's exemplarist philosophy. *Set t...
THE TWO MULLAS podcast - Episode 2 - Hijra Special - with Hasan Spiker and Anwar Mangal
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Will Western countries be livable for Muslims in the aftermath of the unthinkable hypocrisy and brutality of the present War? Are Western countries livable for Muslims now ? Should I plan for hijra to a Muslim country as an emergency precaution/plan B? TWO MULLAS Hijra Special with Hasan Spiker and Anwar Mangal This is actually the original episode, postponed in consideration of the outbreak of...
Two Mullas Podcast - Episode 1 - Palestine Special - Hasan Spiker and Anwar Mangal
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*TWO MULLAS* Episode 1 _Palestine Special_ Join us for this wide-ranging discussion on the genocidal war unfolding in Gaza, including: * Is "Red-pilling" an Islamic principle? * A (mostly) positive review of Muhammad Hijab's debate with Piers Morgan * The war as a turning point for Western Muslims * "Legacy" vs independent daʿwa figures * Omar Suleiman's courageous stance *Jordan Peterson final...
Shaykh Muhammad Ibn al-Habib's Naḥnu Fī sung by Hasan Spiker at the Karima Foundation
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At a Mawlid in High Wycombe, June 2023
Hasan Spiker singing Shaykh Muhammad Ibn al-Habib's Naḥnu Fī
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Moving into Yā Imām al-Rusli with Ali Keeler and a group of wonderful Moroccan musicians (whose names I don't know). Recorded in the Albaicin, Granada, July 2009
See you all at Ahmed Paul Keeler's Rethinking Islam and the West at Bradford Literature Festival!
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See you at Ahmed Paul Keeler's Rethinking Islam and the West at Bradford Literature Festival on Saturday the 24th and Sunday the 25th of June ! www.bradfordlitfest.co.uk/event/rethinking-islam-and-the-west-a-new-narrative-for-the-age-of-crises/ www.bradfordlitfest.co.uk/event/rethinking-islam-and-the-west-seminar-mizan-and-the-narrative-of-islam/
Seminar No. 29 | Return to Things As They Are book | Hasan Spiker |Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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A comparative course (September 2021 - ongoing), taught variously in the renowned PR of the Sidgwick Site at the University of Cambridge, and Berkeley, California. The course draws on the Platonic, Aristotelian and Neoplatonic Greek, kalam, Avicennan and Akbarian Islamic, and post-Kantian Modern traditions, all from the perspective of Spiker's exemplarist philosophy. *Set texts for seminar no. ...
Lost History of the Twentieth Century Decline of the Islamic Intellectual Sciences
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What is lost when _ʿaqliyyāt_ become _naqliyyāt_ ? Lost History of the Decline of the Islamic Intellectual Sciences in the Twentieth Century (and the danger of our present situation dominated by 1) "traditional" amateur dogmatists, as well as 2) academics (‘orientalists’) in university Islamic Studies, many of whom labor under the illusion that they are "traditional", and just "reforming" secul...
Seminar No. 28 | Last session on Metacritique of Kant | Hasan Spiker |Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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A comparative course (September 2021 - ongoing), taught variously in the renowned PR of the Sidgwick Site at the University of Cambridge, and Berkeley, California. The course draws on the Platonic, Aristotelian and Neoplatonic Greek, kalam, Avicennan and Akbarian Islamic, and post-Kantian Modern traditions, all from the perspective of Spiker's exemplarist philosophy. *Set texts for seminar no. ...
Hierarchy and Freedom by Hasan Spiker
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*In the US:* www.amazon.com/Hierarchy-Freedom-examination-metaphysical-post-Enlightenment/dp/B0C1HVLFFH/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1DAZ8H2EI5P7Y&keywords=hierarchy and freedom hasan spiker&qid=1685437957&sprefix=Hierarchy and Freedom,aps,742&sr=8-1 www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hierarchy-and-freedom-hasan-spiker/1143042444?ean=9798218147471 *In the UK:* www.amazon.co.uk/Hierarchy-Freedom-examination-metaphysic...
I am a proud Nominalist !
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Excerpt from seminar of April 29, 2023. The purpose of this excerpt is to convey that the term 'nominalism' is widely misunderstood. (for more on this from a different perspective, see Pasnau, Metaphysical Themes, 83-88). The historical 'nominalists', including Ockham, did not deny the distinct intelligibility of the world; rather, following Aristotle, they believed in (immanent) forms. The rea...
What are al-Aʿyān al-Thābita ? / The Immutable Archetypes? | Hasan Spiker
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Beyond what is discussed in the video: Thābit is a kalām term. In the original Muʿtazilī argument for thubūt al-maʿdūmāt, al-Tamāyuz yastalzimu al-thubūt (kull maʿdūm mutamāyiz, wa kull mutamāyiz thābit, fa-kull maʿdūm thābit), and tamāyuz necessarily presupposes immutability (if the intelligibility of a thing is not stable and unchanging, the thing cannot be mutamāyiz). People should look into...
ʿĀlam al-Mithāl: How is Symbolism Possible ? | Hasan Spiker
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ʿĀlam al-Mithāl: How is Symbolism Possible ? | Hasan Spiker
Imām al-Ghazālī WAS an Ishrāqī philosopher | Hasan Spiker
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Imām al-Ghazālī WAS an Ishrāqī philosopher | Hasan Spiker
Philosophy is not the same thing as Exegesis | Hasan Spiker
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Philosophy is not the same thing as Exegesis | Hasan Spiker
Seminar No. 27 | Key session on Metacritique of Kant | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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Seminar No. 27 | Key session on Metacritique of Kant | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
Hasan Spiker - Do you really think Tajdīd means museum curation or taqlīd !?
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Hasan Spiker - Do you really think Tajdīd means museum curation or taqlīd !?
Seminar No. 3 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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Seminar No. 3 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
Hasan Spiker on intellectual renewal and the current state of the "traditional knowledge" scene
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Hasan Spiker on intellectual renewal and the current state of the "traditional knowledge" scene
The Decline of the Muslim World feat. Sh. Anwar Mangal and al-ʿAllāma al-Sayyid Quṣayy Abu al-Siʿd
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The Decline of the Muslim World feat. Sh. Anwar Mangal and al-ʿAllāma al-Sayyid Quṣayy Abu al-Siʿd
Seminar No. 26 | Hasan Spiker | Key Session | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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Seminar No. 26 | Hasan Spiker | Key Session | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
Powerful Dhikr at the Tomb of Shaykh Abdalqadir al-Jilani in Baghdad
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Powerful Dhikr at the Tomb of Shaykh Abdalqadir al-Jilani in Baghdad
Seminar No. 1 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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Seminar No. 1 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
Seminar No. 2 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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Seminar No. 2 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
Ibn Arabi and the Akbarians are Neoplatonists ? | Seminar No. 25 | Special Session | Hasan Spiker |
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Ibn Arabi and the Akbarians are Neoplatonists ? | Seminar No. 25 | Special Session | Hasan Spiker |
Seminar No. 24 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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Seminar No. 24 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
Seminar No. 23 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course
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Seminar No. 23 | Hasan Spiker | Metaphysics: A Complete Course

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @Armuman
    @Armuman 17 годин тому

    Salam Sidi. Can you please inform me about the basic prerequisites to this playlist?

  • @thoughtform21
    @thoughtform21 9 днів тому

    Just a small reminder that Platonism, Aristotelianism, and Neoplatonism are all polytheistic at the core. In Platonism, the One is not an Individual, it is the principle that states that each thing that exists must be one. That is to say, each thing must be a unit or unity of parts, with an analysis of the parts eventually reducing down to the barest units. This definition does not make the One a deity, it makes it the principle by which we grasp individuation as such. This principle is not causal as is pointed out numerous times in the Platonic and Neoplatonic texts except in the way that unity is the supreme good for each thing that exists. As the One is not causal, it does not determine the number of Gods, or units. So there is no way to limit Platonism or Neoplatonism down in such a way as to apply them to monotheism.

  • @danialecon3386
    @danialecon3386 Місяць тому

    May Allah reward you beyond measure shiekh

  • @alokdi1
    @alokdi1 Місяць тому

    You are wealth of knowledge. These are hard topics and sound is not good. I am investing time but not getting anything out.

  • @costeauu
    @costeauu Місяць тому

    it's amazing how someone can be so consumed by its own fantasy of knowledge, i' m so sorry for you

  • @theprofessor5584
    @theprofessor5584 Місяць тому

    Can you go into the deep metaphysical literature of thinkers like farid ad din attar, rumi, and also other sources like hallaj, abu yazid bestami, al muhasebi, shebli?

  • @theprofessor5584
    @theprofessor5584 Місяць тому

    Salam sheikh Hasan, will you continue to do two mullah podcasts or self podcasts?

  • @tashithinlas3184
    @tashithinlas3184 2 місяці тому

    Islam is not the system of deep philosophical thinking. Analytic philosophy is absolutely incompatible with Islam. Islam is full of concepts like for example: "If your heart desires to do a certain act, and your master's order is against it, you should carry out that order. If something seems good to you, but if your master says it is bad, you must accept it as bad. And if something else seems bad but your master says it is good, then you must accept it as good. If you think a certain action will be harmful, but your master says it must be done, then done it must indeed be, even though it may entail you in loss of life or property. Similarly, if you expect to benefit from a certain action, but your master forbids it, you must refrain from it even though it might have brought all the worldly treasures. Indeed, the noblest among you in the sight of God is the most God fearing of you".- al-Hujurat 49:13

  • @neutral235
    @neutral235 2 місяці тому

    beautiful recitation ❤

  • @User-2823-vx6tq
    @User-2823-vx6tq 2 місяці тому

    Assalamu 'Alaykum Shaykh, is this a public course or a selective course (since there is a selection in order to access the live sessions but they are also uploaded on youtube) ?

  • @armour.2.
    @armour.2. 3 місяці тому

    I believe you're unfair in your representation of Ibn Sina Shaykh

  • @gt_1200
    @gt_1200 3 місяці тому

    How can one contact the sheikh

  • @isagoge
    @isagoge 4 місяці тому

    Well said Shaykh! The problems with the way the Din is widely taught and understood today is so sad that I don’t know whether to laugh or cry

  • @isagoge
    @isagoge 4 місяці тому

    The thumbnail has Bakhit Muti’i. Did he contribute to intellectual decline and if yes, how? Shukran

  • @DarkFaze-qh1uo
    @DarkFaze-qh1uo 5 місяців тому

    My goodness this could be in dog language and it would make no difference in comprehending what’s being said

  • @IslamFTW
    @IslamFTW 5 місяців тому

    Salaamualaikum Shaykhna. Long time, no speak. I pray you are well. I wanted to ask, if the Sanusian approach to theology is considered insufficient in a contemporary context, given its inadequacy to address the skepticism of modern/contemporary philosophy, what would be the solution or alternative methodology that would comprehensively address this?

    • @omarhatemelrefaei8820
      @omarhatemelrefaei8820 5 місяців тому

      Until Shaykh Hasan sees, I suppose his answer would heavily be exposited in his "Things as They are: Nafs al-Amr and the Metaphysical Foundations of Objective Truth" book (the one being read from in the video). Check out the introduction at least, I found fairly orienting. I think the answer to your question is would be summarised in footnote 146 on page 194.

  • @mahakeza
    @mahakeza 6 місяців тому

    This course is a very complete course indeed

  • @maxwellmallery5638
    @maxwellmallery5638 6 місяців тому

    Assalamualykum Shaykh, are there plans to upload the seminars 5-22 and seminars 30-33? JazakAllah khair

  • @justahuman00
    @justahuman00 6 місяців тому

    ♥️

  • @sarafoss9990
    @sarafoss9990 6 місяців тому

    Debate jay dyer please

  • @Reewnat
    @Reewnat 6 місяців тому

    A beautiful podcast and insights/ilm. The Shaykhs are a treasure and so needed in these modern times. HOWEVER, I'm not really seeing why people feel the need to call Shaykh Hamza out. Shaykh Hamza spoke publicly on Gaza four times at least since 10/7 * His Zaytuna talk soon after 10/7 * His public discussion with Chris Hedges on the history and current Palestinian situation a few weeks ago (when reviewing Khalidi's Palestinian book) * His signed Zaytuna letter soon thereafter * His RIS talk (and not including his numerous talks over the years weren't speaking out on the Palestinian cause). I guess some people want some quota of how many times equals enough to prove someone supports and speaks out. Does it have to be weekly, daily?

  • @ConquerModernity111
    @ConquerModernity111 6 місяців тому

    Why do people insist on throwing terms from other languages into a discussion thats taking place in another language. Its not helpful

  • @tech_az
    @tech_az 6 місяців тому

    Is it not plausible that Ibn Arabi came across the works of Plato/Plotinus and re-imagined those ideas into something of his own making upon contemplation (of the Quran and select hadith) and his worldly and "other-worldly" experiences? If yes, one can say those works were a potential catalyst in his thought process or helped him in his expression of his own ideas (if they were not the initial catalyst) and thus may have been "influenced" to a certain degree. That degree of influence was obviously not 100% as if it was, he would be a Neoplatonist. Let's assume he was "influenced" by the works of Plato/Plotinus. Why is this a problem given it's plausible for people anywhere in the world or universe a Nabi did not reach (if you think Plato/Plotinus are not coming from a Nabi "tradition") in a given space/time to come to similar ideas through there own rational processes and worldly/"other-worldly" experiences/observations - vis-a-vis the Ibrahim A.S. process (Ibn Tufayl)?

  • @fizascensionyze
    @fizascensionyze 6 місяців тому

    i have fallen deeper in love with Allah wa Rasulullah ﷺ deeper with these two Shaykhs. jazakallah khair and may Allah increase you both.

  • @zaydmuhamed
    @zaydmuhamed 7 місяців тому

    Jazakallah Khair Shaykh. The explanation for Intuition being self-evident was an absolutely amazing explanation.

  • @mt000mp
    @mt000mp 7 місяців тому

    is this channel belongs to a student of sidi hasan?

  • @NezarAbdullah
    @NezarAbdullah 7 місяців тому

    It is such a blessing to hear you both drop gems like this. Know that many appreciate what you do silently. Looking forward to hearing more from you.

  • @zaydmuhamed
    @zaydmuhamed 7 місяців тому

    Jazakallah Khair Shaykh. Thank you for this very important lecture.

  • @zaydmuhamed
    @zaydmuhamed 7 місяців тому

    Jazakallah Khair for the Shaykh. Allah preserve you and bless us from your ilm and hilm.

  • @zaydmuhamed
    @zaydmuhamed 7 місяців тому

    Jazakallah Khairan Shaykh for this beautiful discourse.

  • @andimuhammad1241
    @andimuhammad1241 7 місяців тому

    Nice video! If i may ask, what is the neccesity of al ayan al tabitha as "images" Of divine names? Why are they not the same?

  • @zaydmuhamed
    @zaydmuhamed 7 місяців тому

    Jazakallah Khair for the upload Shaykh.

  • @BloggingTheology
    @BloggingTheology 7 місяців тому

    Fascinating!

  • @Armuman
    @Armuman 7 місяців тому

    What order should we watch this course in?

  • @cloroxbleach6344
    @cloroxbleach6344 7 місяців тому

    Can you please upload all the parts of this course series into a single ordered playlist if possible?

  • @HH-zr1iu
    @HH-zr1iu 7 місяців тому

    Mashallah mawlana

  • @SuhailAhamed-bv3le
    @SuhailAhamed-bv3le 7 місяців тому

    When was this episode recorded ?

  • @Rumi_wisdom
    @Rumi_wisdom 7 місяців тому

    Can you kindly comment on the book reconstruction of religious thoughts in islam by allama iqbal..pakistan

    • @Rumi_wisdom
      @Rumi_wisdom 7 місяців тому

      I will be very thankful thanks

  • @akhan2820
    @akhan2820 7 місяців тому

    Excellent content. I can’t believe your reach isn’t in the 00000’s but that isn’t the objective I guess. Keep up the work

  • @LeekyKale
    @LeekyKale 7 місяців тому

    For the award at the beginning: 1.fatiha 2. 55:26-27 كُلُّ مَنْ عَلَيْهَا فَانٍۢ•وَيَبْقَىٰ وَجْهُ رَبِّكَ ذُو ٱلْجَلَـٰلِ وَٱلْإِكْرَامِ 3. 28:8 but not all of it only the part كُلُّ شَيْءٍ هَالِكٌ إِلَّا وَجْهَهُ 4. لا إله إلا الله قبل كل شيء، ‏لا إله إلا الله بعد كل شيء، ‏لا إله إلا الله يبقى ربنا ويفني كل شيء، لا إله إلا الله ليس كمثله شيء 5. أنتَ الأوَّلُ فليسَ قبلَكَ شيءٌ وأنتَ الآخرُ فليسَ بعدَكَ شيءٌ وأنتَ الظَّاهرُ فليسَ فوقَكَ شيءٌ وأنتَ الباطنُ فليسَ دونَكَ شيءٌ اقضِ عنَّا الدَّينَ وأغنِنا منَ الفقرِ 6. لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله العلي العظيم 7. Salwat One is at 07:55 and the other one is this:- اللَّهُمَّ صلّ صلاةً كاملةً وسلّمْ سلامًا تامًا على نبىٍ تنحلُ به العقدُ وتنفرجُ به الكُرَبُ وتُقْضَى به الحوائجُ وتُنَالُ به الرغائبُ وَحسنُ الخَوَاتِيم ويُستسقى الغمامُ بوجههِ الكريمِ وعلى آلهِ

  • @cornflakez5350
    @cornflakez5350 7 місяців тому

    Iirc its mostly China who’s Pakistan is indebt to

  • @zaydmuhamed
    @zaydmuhamed 7 місяців тому

    Subhanallah. Shaykhs beautiful voice is a joy to hear. ❤️

  • @OnkelKurac
    @OnkelKurac 7 місяців тому

    More of this love it

  • @HK4718
    @HK4718 7 місяців тому

    If someone can put the Awrad up at the beginning, that'd be appreciated.

    • @mohammedshabirbhat5065
      @mohammedshabirbhat5065 7 місяців тому

      In Kashmir We have awarade Fatiha by Mir Syed Ali Hamdani founder of Islam in Kashmir so I recommend you to read.

    • @LeekyKale
      @LeekyKale 7 місяців тому

      1.fatiha 2. 55:26-27 كُلُّ مَنْ عَلَيْهَا فَانٍۢ•وَيَبْقَىٰ وَجْهُ رَبِّكَ ذُو ٱلْجَلَـٰلِ وَٱلْإِكْرَامِ 3. 28:8 but not all of it only the part كُلُّ شَيْءٍ هَالِكٌ إِلَّا وَجْهَهُ 4. لا إله إلا الله قبل كل شيء، ‏لا إله إلا الله بعد كل شيء، ‏لا إله إلا الله يبقى ربنا ويفني كل شيء، لا إله إلا الله ليس كمثله شيء 5. أنتَ الأوَّلُ فليسَ قبلَكَ شيءٌ وأنتَ الآخرُ فليسَ بعدَكَ شيءٌ وأنتَ الظَّاهرُ فليسَ فوقَكَ شيءٌ وأنتَ الباطنُ فليسَ دونَكَ شيءٌ اقضِ عنَّا الدَّينَ وأغنِنا منَ الفقرِ 6. لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله العلي العظيم 7. Salwat One is at 07:55 and the other one is this:- اللَّهُمَّ صلّ صلاةً كاملةً وسلّمْ سلامًا تامًا على نبىٍ تنحلُ به العقدُ وتنفرجُ به الكُرَبُ وتُقْضَى به الحوائجُ وتُنَالُ به الرغائبُ وَحسنُ الخَوَاتِيم ويُستسقى الغمامُ بوجههِ الكريمِ وعلى آلهِ

    • @user-hp2dr5qc8p
      @user-hp2dr5qc8p 7 місяців тому

      كل من عليها فان ويبقى وجه ربك ذو الجلال والإكرام كل شيء هالك إلا وجهه لا إله إلا الله قبل كل شيء، لا إله إلا الله بعد كل شيء، لا إله إلا الله يبقى ربنا ويفنى كل شيء اللهم أنت الأول الذي ليس قبلك شيء، وإنت الآخر الذي ليس بعدك شيء، وأنت الظاهر فليس فوقك شيء، وأنت الباطن فليس دونك شيء، اقض عني الدين وأغنني من الفقر لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله العلي العظيم الصلاة الكمالية الصلاة النارية (التازية) أو الكاملة

  • @HK4718
    @HK4718 7 місяців тому

    These two are a pleasure to listen to.

  • @user-gk7sk1ie9q
    @user-gk7sk1ie9q 7 місяців тому

    Please keep making these. So wonderful. Your brother, Justin Mclean (Canadian living in Java)

  • @alimohammad360
    @alimohammad360 7 місяців тому

    Asalamu Alaikum Mawlana, are these courses still continuing? If so how can I register to partake in them. May Allah reward you and preserve you.

  • @AlSaailAlMajhul
    @AlSaailAlMajhul 7 місяців тому

    السلام عليكم shaykh Will lessons 4-22 be uploaded? The course seems very interesting but with 20ish lessons not available a lot is missed. Would really appreciate the lessons being uploaded. JazākAllahu Khairan. Ps. Request for duas for barakah in ilm

  • @user-yk2vr3uw6s
    @user-yk2vr3uw6s 8 місяців тому

    Was Ibni Arabi influenced by Plato? This is the question. But the arguments of Hasan Spiker are quite demagogic and linear logic. If you deny this statement, you have Ashari attributes. This is dogmatic argument. To tackle the question we need to look at what really Ibni Arabi is. And unlike other scholars, Ibni Arabi help us understand this with his crystal clear statements. In Futuhat he puts people in 3 categories; the awam, the normal people, layman; the hawas, in which he puts fukaha, mutakallimun, philosophers, etc...and the last and highest level is for hawasul hawas, what he defines as Muhakkiq Sufis, people such as Bayazidi Bastami, Jouneydi Baghadi, Hakimi Tirmizi, etc. And definitely Ibni Arabi puts himself in this category. Now to expect Jounaydi Bahgdadi, or Ibni Arabi to be influenced by Plato or other Philosophers is really absurd..Its not understanding Ibni Arabi.

  • @user-yk2vr3uw6s
    @user-yk2vr3uw6s 8 місяців тому

    To equate Ibni Arabi with neo platonics, or claiming Ibni Arabi was somehow influenced from them actually is not understanding Ibni Arabi..This is a common statement by some Orientalists, or even people like Abu Al-Ala Afifi but it is misconception. A figure like Ibnul Arabi who represents "ilm al Khasf, who himself claims that for him writing has been like giving birth of Devine illuminations, invoking influence from Plato or Plotinus is problematic. Imagine a person, who himself is saying that it took him only 11 days to write his book called Mevakiun Nucum, a book of 300 pages...he wrote his al Edbiratul ilahiyye in 4 days, Et Tenezzulatul Mevsiliyye in few days..el Jalal ve'l Jamal in only 1 day..We have to understand we are not talking about a normal scholar or philosopher that builds his scholarship through reading and lecures...Just let us remember his reply to Ibni Rush, the Yes and No..his explanation about NO tells you the difference. On other side, Ibni Arabi in various occasions alludes to some concepts or notions brought forward by some Muslims or Greek Philosophers...but often the purpose of that was to clarify things, to put things to the right order in metaphysical sense. There is no possibility for him to be influenced by Philosophers. Not because a muslim scholar cannot or should not be under the influence of non Muslims but because the type of "ilim" Ibni Arabi represents. This is the point which is most complicated part to understand for moderns like us.

    • @user-yk2vr3uw6s
      @user-yk2vr3uw6s 8 місяців тому

      Let's also remember that in Futuhat, Ibni Arabi also suggest for those who truly want to understand him that they should not try to approach him through the notions of the Philosophers.