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Exploring old railroads and rail trails and whatever else we find along the way. Nothing professional here, just us looking for cool history and some attempts at train spotting. Let's see what's out there. These videos are not intended to promote trespassing of any kind. I am aware of the risks and legal ramifications I take and wish only to satisfy my curiosity and highlight the tremendous amount of work that often goes unseen. Hope you enjoy and thanks for watching and subscribing.
Where the LV railroads Packerton car shops once sat. Carbon County PA.
Hello everyone. We have reached our final location of the day. We are waking around the site of the former car construction and repair facility that belonged to the Lehigh Valley Railroad. From 1865 till 1972 this facility, which was more than just this building, sprawled for over a mile keeping the fleet of coal hoppers running. This facility constructed and maintained rolling stock and also had a roundhouse and other maintenance facilities. There was a large workforce here with over 2,000 men and women making a living. Many of them from the Lehighton area.
When the anthracite business fell off after world war 2 the railroads of eastern PA began to feel the stress. Eventually the Lehigh Valley railroad would go bankrupt and become a part of Conrail. Even before this the Packerton yard area was already in decline and would eventually just become a memory. The car shop building would stand in defiance for many years after abandonment but eventually fell to the wrecking ball. Let’s go take a walk around the foundation of this once important piece of industrial transportation history. Thank you for watching and your continued support. 1/12/25
When the anthracite business fell off after world war 2 the railroads of eastern PA began to feel the stress. Eventually the Lehigh Valley railroad would go bankrupt and become a part of Conrail. Even before this the Packerton yard area was already in decline and would eventually just become a memory. The car shop building would stand in defiance for many years after abandonment but eventually fell to the wrecking ball. Let’s go take a walk around the foundation of this once important piece of industrial transportation history. Thank you for watching and your continued support. 1/12/25
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Could this have been a water tower? More from Carbon County PA.
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Hello everyone. Much to my surprise there is still a nice stretch of the old Central Railroad of New Jersey mainline hiding in the woods. We are still in the former Packerton yard area. The Lehigh Valley Railroad mainline was first built through this area in the 1840s. As time passed they were in need of a car production facility and maintenance facility. This led to to construction of the Pack...
Amazing stone work built by the Lehigh and Susquehanna railroad. Carbon County PA .
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Hello everyone. We continue our exploration of the Lehighton area and we come across something amazing. In the late 1830s the Lehigh Coal and Navigation Company built a railroad from White Haven PA to the north branch of the Pennsylvania Canal. This was the Lehigh and Susquehanna railroad. This line ran in tandem with the Lehigh Canal, which were owned by the same company. Skip ahead a couple d...
Work pits for the Lehigh Valley railroad? Lehighton, Carbon County PA.
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Hello everyone. We have returned to Lehighton PA today to see what kind of old railroad relics remain hidden in the woods. In 1865 the Lehigh Valley Railroad began construction of a huge facility known as Packerton yard. This facility stretched almost 2 miles at one time and contained at least one roundhouse if not two along with a huge car shop where, in the beginning, they were producing coal...
Norfolk Southern H66 along the D&L trail. North Catasaqua PA.
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Hello everyone. On Sundays Norfolk Southern operates the day time H66 train. This train normally runs at night. It originates in Allentown PA and uses the old Lehigh and Susquehanna railbed. This is the same railbed that was leased to the Central Railroad of New Jersey. The CNJ used this road for a century before it became utilized by the Lehigh Valley Railroad. Later Conrail would use this roa...
Something random from Lehighton, Carbon county PA.
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Hello everyone. While driving through Lehighton PA today I noticed a bridge abutment that I never saw before. This time of year is great for seeing things hidden by leaves in the summer. I’m fairly certain this was some sort of spur that broke off the Central Railroad of New Jersey mainline. Most likely to service industry in the Lehighton area. Unfortunately I’m really not sure of the logistic...
Wrapping up where we started. Bridge abutment at Hickory Run. Carbon County PA.
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Hello everyone. This is where we leave off for know. We’ve been trying to figure out what exactly was going on in this area. Turns out there was a town of Hickory Run here. This town had a logging railroad running through it along with half a dozen lumber mills along the Hickory Run itself. There was also a post office and railroad station. This bridge abutment would have carried the logging ra...
Where the Hickory Run logging railroad interchanged with Lehigh Valley Railroad?
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Hello everyone. In this video we have made it to the former Lehigh Valley railroad mainline. The culvert I thought was here turned out to be a bridge. This bridge was made of concrete so that means it was most likely built in the early 1900’s. I am not sure what this span would have looked like when the line was originally constructed. This is also the location I believe the logging railroad in...
Interesting remains in the Hickory Run area. Carbon County PA.
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Hello everyone. Working our way along the Hickory Run we come across more clues of what was once a small industrial site or maybe even a small town. What I’m reading online is there was once a heavy amount of logging going on. In particular it may have been centered around the tanning industry. Tannin was needed to tan hides so I believe that the logging in this area supported that industry. Th...
Was there a railroad along Hickory Run? Carbon County PA.
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Hello everyone. On a mission to find an old Lehigh Valley railroad culvert, Stella and I came across some ruins along Hickory Run. When first finding these I had no service to see what may have been here. Turns out this was most likely a logging operation. I’m just beginning to scratch the surface on this area but I believe the bricks were part of the structures that used to stand here. I made ...
Old Reading railroad bridge. Schuylkill Haven PA.
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Hello everyone. We find ourselves in in Schuylkill Haven, Schuylkill County PA to check out this old railroad bridge. This particular span is a Reading railroad bridge, however it is possible that the original span that was here could have been built by the Mine Hill and Schuylkill Haven railroad. The Mine Hill was an early Pennsylvania railroad that hauled coal from the anthracite fields of Sc...
Western abutment of the Lehigh Valley railroads Conors crossing bridge. Schuylkill Haven PA.
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Hello everyone. This is the third of three videos taking a look at what remains of the Conors crossing bridge. This span was built by the Lehigh Valley railroad for their Pottsville branch. This line broke off the Lehigh Valley mainline at Lizard Creek junction in Carbon County PA. The line then traveled the country side making its way to Schuylkill County where the anthracite fields were mined...
More remains of the Lehigh Valley railroads Conors crossing bridge in Schuylkill Haven PA.
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Hello everyone. Hidden behind some weeds and buried by route 61 is this piece of railroad history. This is one of the large stone footings that once held the LV railroads Conors crossing bridge. This span once crossed the Pennsylvania railroad, Philadelphia and Reading mainline and the Schuylkill river. Later the construction of route 61 would pass under this span. Now long gone, but if you kno...
East side abutment of the LV railroads Conors crossing bridge. Schuylkill Haven PA
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East side abutment of the LV railroads Conors crossing bridge. Schuylkill Haven PA
Lehigh Valley railroad Pottsville branch Mahonney creek culvert. Orwigsburg PA.
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Lehigh Valley railroad Pottsville branch Mahonney creek culvert. Orwigsburg PA.
Beautiful Lehigh Valley railroad culvert on the Pottsville branch. Schuylkill County PA.
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Beautiful Lehigh Valley railroad culvert on the Pottsville branch. Schuylkill County PA.
Exploring around the Pine street bridge. Catasaqua PA. ( part 3)
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Exploring around the Pine street bridge. Catasaqua PA. ( part 3)
Exploring around the Pine street bridge. Catasaqua PA (part 2)
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Exploring around the Pine street bridge. Catasaqua PA (part 2)
Exploring around the Pine street bridge in Catasaqua PA. (part 1)
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Exploring around the Pine street bridge in Catasaqua PA. (part 1)
Lehigh Valley railroads Hays/Black creek culvert. Luzerne County PA.
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Lehigh Valley railroads Hays/Black creek culvert. Luzerne County PA.
Reading and Northern passing by the Hays creek branch. Luzerne County.
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Reading and Northern passing by the Hays creek branch. Luzerne County.
Lehigh Valley railroads Hays Creek branch. East side of Lehigh river. (3) Luzerne County PA.
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Lehigh Valley railroads Hays Creek branch. East side of Lehigh river. (3) Luzerne County PA.
Lehigh Valley railroads Hays Creek branch. East side of Lehigh river. (2) Luzerne County PA.
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Lehigh Valley railroads Hays Creek branch. East side of Lehigh river. (2) Luzerne County PA.
Lehigh Valley railroads Hays Creek branch. East side of Lehigh river. Luzerne County PA.
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Lehigh Valley railroads Hays Creek branch. East side of Lehigh river. Luzerne County PA.
WK&S railroads Lehigh and New England photo special. Kempton PA.
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WK&S railroads Lehigh and New England photo special. Kempton PA.
WK&S railroads Lehigh and New England photo special. Wanamaker PA.
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WK&S railroads Lehigh and New England photo special. Wanamaker PA.
I believe this was lock 25 of the Lehigh Coal and Navigation Company. Upper division.
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I believe this was lock 25 of the Lehigh Coal and Navigation Company. Upper division.
Location of Drifton junction. Right off the D&L trail.
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Location of Drifton junction. Right off the D&L trail.
Remains of the Central Railroad of New Jersey. Drifton branch. Luzerne County PA.
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Remains of the Central Railroad of New Jersey. Drifton branch. Luzerne County PA.
Just a recommendation, think about slowing down your rotation speed while panning around. I have had to practice this myself and I found this improves the video quality during those times. Have a wonderful week.
Thank you. I catch myself doing often and think to myself that I should have slowed that down. Great suggestion. Have a great week yourself.
Nice find, very cool
Thank you kindly Jason.
Cool find!
Thank you John. I’ll see these county markers in the strangest places sometimes.
Are you aloud to walk there? Just curious. i want to go visit that side. Apparently president Ulysse S. Grant walked on that side
Absolutely. Not only that but you can follow the rail bed for a while. It’s a wonderful walk.
What is up top ? Is it a highway ?
Good morning Bill. That is the Catasaqua and Fogelsville railroad up on top.
I live by the area. NS probably hasnt used that part of the line since the shutdown of GEO chemicals in spring '24. Just a bit further down Iron Bridge Road, is whatever's left a trolley bridge that crossed the creek. Also, if you drive on Albright Avenue, you'll see the old Greenawalds Fire Station. Trolley line ran right behind the fire station. There is a video out there when the trolleys were active at that time.
Thank you for the information. Are the trolley bridge remains visible from the road?
@kevinsalsbury2118 kindof. It's a few yards before the covered bridge. It's overgrown, but you should be able to see it at this time. Do you have an email? I can send a google earth image of where it's at.
Absolutely. My email is ksalsbury500@gmail.com
@@kevinsalsbury2118 awesome. Thanks.
That’s what you call a teaser
I’m going to have to make sure the long version is a good one lol. I’m going to have to take some notes on this one. There used to be a trolley running on the road portion. That’s the part I need to research.
Very cool
Yeah Tad, this one is pretty impressive. It’s a hell of a tall grade when you’re looking up at it.
Thank you for this short video. I hope you can find pictures of the old iron bridge and the trolley line. A question which you may not be able to answer - if you look at the auto tunnel you will see another small tunnel sitting pretty much on top of it. I drive this way frequently and have often wonder why it is there?
I absolutely have the picture you’re talking about. I’m trying to do a now and then comparison. I also saw the little tunnel above the tunnel. I’m trying to figure how to get up there but there are posted signs on both sides.
Kev you know there’s lot of tail spikes buried lol there begging to be found 😂 awesome video
Bob I don’t know why I wasn’t looking. I was just kind of in awe of the whole place. I’m going to have to go back up. I found a couple old tie plates.
@ it’s understandable, look at how overgrown area is!
Thank you.
My pleasure Nick. Hoping the weather cooperates enough for me to get back this weekend.
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Heck yeah!!!!
Cool🎉🎉
Thanks Dave!!
Reminds me of the Downington Tunnels in Chester Co. 👻
Did you see the Wandering Woodsman was just there. That place looks spooky.
@ Yes! That’s why it was fresh in my mind. Years back when I first heard the story my son used to have picnics with his school at the park they found her legs in! PA has some wild tales. Just heard we are in for it Sunday 6 inches ❄️ take care if you’re out in it. Then the deep freeze ugh. Stay warm. Give Stella a cuddle 👋
I never heard the story till I saw Cliffs video. I’m hoping to get out tomorrow. I’ll tell Stella you said hi.
This is amazing 😮
Thank you Stanton. I’m looking forward to showing this one off!
This whole scene was very pleasant to the eyes. The way the trees are falling on the hillside they actually make it look terraced. One wonders if they reused the Iron Bridge Elsewhere on the system. As usual the angular Bridge and the concrete walls are holding up fantastically. While the width isn't huge it would explain the good height clearance. That middle Arch is that an overflow Channel and yet it looks like tire tracks down there. Anyways it looks like a great place to explore
Hey Paul. While I can’t be certain, I believe that original bridge is in the cement. I have seen the Reading do this along the Catawissa branch as well. The Catasaqua and Fogelsville built the original Iron Bridge at this location. The Reading took ownership of this line and when the trains became to heavy they decided to build a fill and tunnel system. There is a Reading diamond date stamp but I can’t read the darn thing.
You have a keen eye !
@@kevinsalsbury2118 If your camera does not have enough zoom to see that date stamp maybe bring binoculars next time and let us all know what you find out.
Were the ones on the right, for RR use?😮
No Charles. The two lower tunnels are to carry the Jordan Creek. The road tunnel once had trolley tracks running through it.
@kevinsalsbury2118 I kinda thought that, but wasn't sure, look forward to more insight on this area...Thank You for the information.
That was said to be the largest iron bridge in the world when it was built.
Really!? I’ve seen two different pictures so far. One is the one that shows the construction of the current structure and one from what I believe is the southwest side of the bridge. It was certainly a monster.
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Cool video! Can you sometime do a video of the turntable that still sits upstream of the Rt 93 bridge in Jim Thorpe? That would be awesome.
Good morning Jeffrey. This sounds really interesting. Could you give me a bit more information if possible.
Great stuff man. If you like, I could share some of my photos with you of my travels on the Central Jersey Railroad from here in Jersey.
Good morning Gregg. I would love to see what you have been up to. I’ve done absolutely no CNJ exploring in New Jersey. Something I mean to remedy. My email is ksalsbury500@gmail.com.
In 1969 the CNJ was in such bad shape that they were selling off excess coaches at $600 each. I know because I want to Elizabethport shops and bought two of them - the 983 and the 1133. I had the bill of sale around here until a couple of years ago. Both were bought for the New Hope and Ivyland and were financed by a bunch of us volunteers. I don’t know what happened to the 1133 and the 983 got vandalized before they ever put it into service. I swear that I could have bought a decrepit RS3 for scrap price and driven it back to New Hope. The CNJ headquarters and shops were depressing. Broken down equipment everywhere. That’s about the time that the WK&S bought the CNJ’s private car for scrap price. They later resold it and it was trucked out of Kempton. I would have bought it for New Hope if I had known it was for sale.
Good morning Bob. So I may be wrong about this but I think the WK&S traded that CNJ car to the folks at Project 113 up in Minersville for one of the switchers they use to run their trains. There is an old CNJ passenger car attached to engine 113 up at the Minersville station.
Very nice finds there and definitely old work pits
Hey Stanton. Thank you very much.
12:21 .......how were those big boulders moved into place back in the olden days i wonder?
I don’t have the exact answer however I would have to assume some sort of steam crane.
@@kevinsalsbury2118 ........yeah i see these walls everywhere in new england......it would be interesting to find an old movie of them making these walls......
Yeah that would be sweet!
Shame that so many people lost their jobs there. Yes, it would be nice if this was converted into a park with replicas of old buildings. This way the new generation would learn how working folks lived back in those days. Thanx for presenting these views.
Absolutely my pleasure. Hard to believe how much went on here and now silence. Time and history really are an amazing thing.
I'm not sure that was a water tower. More likely, I think, it was a latrine. Water towers in areas where water froze in the winter usually had stone or concrete walls up to the bottom of the water tank, in which they could light a fire to keep the water liquid. This doesn't look like that at all.
So it was for watering. Just not the kind I was thinking of lol. Thank you for the correction.
Two things: (1) there's a book about this building: The Last Building at Packerton Yards, by Louis Robertella. (I thought I had the book, but I can't find it.) (2) your estimate of 50 yards is very conservative--that building is easily 120-130 yards long.
You are absolutely right. I definitely botched my estimate. I’m going to see if I can locate this book. Thank you for the recommendation!
Hopefully there will be plenty of future rare mileage excursions for the R&N!
Did you see all the new coaches they had delivered the other day. Andy is definitely growing his fleet.
@ I saw videos and articles of them!
The carshops were outdoor. Packerton jct is a mile away and has nothing to do with the shops. The building was the storehouse for the entire railroad, they never repaired freight cars in it, it had no track going into it. There are no recreational plans for the parcel. There was an industrial concern who wanted to buy and repurpose the storehouse but the county had it torn down anyway. That was 2007.
Thank you for the correction. There was a recent news article from a couple weeks ago. I think the borough and county are talking about using the land again. I don’t think it can be developed to much due to being in a flood plain. The article reads “ Lehighton to spend $45,000 on a survey of the Packerton yards property provided by Carbon County to be used for recreation “ Source is Times News. Hopefully they can do something nice with the land. It really is a beautiful location.
@kevinsalsbury2118 the borough owned parcel is a mile south of the shop area, where the coach yard was, al9mg the river, behind the beverage distributor along the downtown bypass. It would be great if the borough could make something of that land.
Thank you sir.
It's a shame that you don't have any concrete information about anything regarding the original roadbed, I'd be really interested to hear what you found that pieces it all together in the future.
The amount of physical labor that went into building this is fascinating.
The whole area really. There were structures everywhere. It was really like its own little town when things were really pumping.
Awesome video Kevin. My grandfather got a lot of neat LV documents from that building. When Conrail stopped using the building, my grandfather was able to get box loads of way bills, car repair slips and old letters. I am slowly digitizing those on my Lehigh Valley Railroad Facebook page! Looking forward to your next video!
Hi Brian. Thank you very much. Do you know exactly the story of this building. Where they actually building cars in this one or do I have it wrong. I know this was storage at the end of days. Keith Bednar told me they were storing everything in there towards the end.
@ I’m not sure but I’ll see if I can find anything
Thank you.
Wow - quite a wall, probably used the stone from the cuts.
It just kept going and going. Absolutely awesome!
Great stuff Kevin - Thanks.
You bet Patrick!
That building was massive. I looked at photos of the building. I could see the ramp you walked up in an old photo. Great coverage of the area, thanks.
Thank you so much Burton. I remember driving by the building when I was younger and wondering what the heck it was. This building may not have been the car shops though. I’m trying to figure out for sure. It was definitely railroad related though.
I was waiting for you to tell us how many old tires there were. 😁
Lol! I lost count after 84.
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Not far from the foundation you're looking at there's two large iron hooks embedded into the ground that were for pedestrian bridge that was for Lehigh Valley railroad workers to cross the river from long run to the rail yard. They had a long walk to work and back😮
I absolutely saw those. I thought maybe for tying off canal barges but I don’t think this area had slack water. Those are huge hooks!!
@@kevinsalsbury2118Yeah I saw an article on History of Carbon County that mentioned that pedestrian bridge and if my is correct there may have been a picture or two of the bridge. Also if you look up Ron Rebinold there's probably mention of the bridge and many other stories of the rail yards.
Thank you Clayton.
That stream diversion was an amazing find.
I was simply floored when I saw it. Just to watch the construction of this would have been amazing!
I think that building was torn down in 2005 I have some pictures I took of the demolition in my computer
You were there. That’s really cool. I would like to see those pictures if you want to share them. My email address is ksalsbury500@gmail.com. Thank you.
@@kevinsalsbury2118 Yes Kevin you were in my neighborhood I live in Packerton. I'll get my butt in gear and learn how to get those pictures out of my old lap top
Yes, it is fascinating. I will try to find this along with the bridge across the little schuylkill
Greetings. Thanks for all that information. When I filmed there, I had no idea the history. All I knew was there was a railroad bed going over the culvert. Have a great day.
My pleasure John. That is one of my favorite beds to explore. That same railroad runs back towards Windsor Castle, then Virginville,Kutztown. It started all the way out in Allentown but the best remains are in Berks County.
Hi Kevin, thanks for doing these great vids! I wonder if that old CNJ line can be followed all the way to Jim Thorpe? Wonder if it links up with the Reading & Northern?
Good morning Nick. I absolutely believe it links up with Reading and Northern. Probably somewhere between where I was filming and A bit before Jim Thorpe itself. No I want to go back and see lol.
@@kevinsalsbury2118 Yep! Every time I hear about the CNJ, I think about the old Blue Comet passenger train that once ran between Jersey City and Atlantic City. A lot of the ROW is still intact through the Pinelands of Jersey. I really wish they would reactivate that line and run it all the way to Cape May. Probably would be a huge asset to the Jersey Shore communities. Take care, Kevin!
I've seen worse condition search light signals still in service. Let's get a generator and apply some power to those bad boys.
Always cool finding unexpected ruins.... Yup, most likely an old water tower. You sure do like your railroad history! Another really nice video, my friend.
Thank you so much Jenn. I can’t get enough of this stuff. You’ve been doing a great job yourself!
Great set of videos on this now forgotten area. I read over 2000 people worked there at one time.
I heard the same thing David. Can you imagine the fast pace this place must have had. No just sitting here silently.
Great Video! I remember those building being there. I think there was talk about a distribution center or warehouses. Now the area just sits.. I’ll have to check this one out as well!
Thank you. I think the plans for distribution fell off. There has been recent discussions again about what to do with the land. I hope they do something interesting with it.
Very cool, that was on old crapper box for the workers, lotta turds dropped in that bad boy over the years. great find as always.
Lol actually someone just suggested it may actually be just that.
Great video! My dad was in world war 2 came out and got hired by the railroad and worked in the car shop at shireoaks, in elrama PA. Worked on railroad for 49 years! It changed hands several times penn central, Norfolk southern, etc but he worked his way up was a brakeman, then for the last several years an engineer! So the railroad has a ton of history in our family. I remember he used to take all of us to the yard and let us run an engine in the Yard as well as nieces amd nephews and even his grandchildren. Not sure if you could get away with that these days! Lol
Thank you for sharing this piece of your family history with us. Believe it or not I have very little railroad history in my family. I had some distant in-laws and step family members that worked for the Reading but I never knew them. From all the stories I’ve heard it sounds like the railroad was a different place back then. Almost like a family. There is no way Norfolk Southern is letting an engineers child operate a train now lol. Have a great night.
@kevinsalsbury2118 👊, I'm sure Norfolk southern wouldn't these days! He passed away in 1998. So that was along time ago. What was really cool was whenever I was growing up to see my dad driving the train near our home, waving out the window! Good stuff
Kevin As a LV fan and modeler, I look forward to your videos as often as you release them. Thanx so much.
Absolutely my pleasure!!
Kevin: The CNJ’s exit from PA happened in two stages: First, they negotiated trackage rights on the LV basically up through the Lehigh Gorge. They still ran on some of their own parallel trackage such as preserving their trackage in White Haven. They sort of hop scotched back and forth so it wasn’t a complete abandonment. At Laurel Run they definitely went back into their own trackage and down the mountain to Ashley yard. That was their westward connection where they handed off to the Erie. The Erie actually pick up the CNJ’s westbound cars in Ashley yard. At a later date I don’t remember exactly how it happened (I think that I remember flood damage) the CNJ abandoned all trackage in PA and handed the keys to Allentown yard to the LV so to speak. By that time the CNJ was broke and was a sort of ward of the state of NJ. I don’t think that the state cared a rats butt about the CNJ’s operations in PA and simply saw them as more money lost. The way it worked was that the CNJ said goodbye and the ICC or the state of PA or somebody directed the LV to take over the trackage. It wasn’t until CONRAIL that they began yanking out every last bit of duplicate trackage. The line from Laurel Run down the hill into the Wyoming Valley was supposedly being undermined by a mine fire anyway and the Glen Alden colliery which was adjacent to the CNJ Ashley yard was shut down. They finally dynamited the abandoned coal breaker just a few years ago. It was a rusty eyesore although some people wanted to preserve it. There is nothing left of Ashley yard. Somebody posted on another site that the Wyoming Valley headquarters of an exterminating company (Terminix?) sits right on top of where the turntable was. I worked it out once and the Glen Alden colliery in the old days could load out over 100 carloads of coal per day. And that wasn’t the only colliery that the CNJ serviced. The CNJ was basically a coal conveyor belt that ended in NY harbor. They had not one but two rotary coal dumpers there, BTW.
Good evening Bob. Fantastic information as always. I swear you have forgotten more than I’ll ever know about railroad history. Greatly appreciate everything you bring to the table.
Hey Kevin great video im always curious about this great property thank you for showing me this awsome history keep up the great work
That makes two of us Tyler. I’ve been wanting to get into that area for years now. Glad you enjoyed this.