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Yes, this is considered the touring model of the Scout line. As such, it has bags that match the size of the bike. Could you imagine Chieftain sized bags on this thing? It would look ridiculous. And if you prefer mags, you could check out one of the other models, like the Sport Scout, and add whatever bags you prefer. As for the fenders, considering the the look of the bobber sells much better than the look of the classic, I think it was a good choice. Practical or not. The rear shock on the Super Scout is 3 inches of travel. Not 2. Only the Scout Bobber has 2. But it wouldn't be gone either way as long as you're adjusting your preload properly. And the new Chieftain is the exact same frame and setup as the classic Chieftain, just with much more features. And it is still very much in production. If you want the classic style, Indian still makes it in the Roadmaster. Then you'd have all the storage you can ask for. Plus a Queen's Seat. Here, I'll tag the link for you so you can check it out. www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/roadmaster-motorcycles/roadmaster/

@ thanks for the link but the Roadmaster is much too heavy for my liking. The chieftain has totally different shaped bags and a skinnier front tire than the prior chieftain. It looks like a Harley now. As for the 3 inches of travel on the scout, with the amount of weight I mentioned earlier, approximately 360 pounds, at least half or more of the travel would be used up, then encounter a bumpy or lousy road or highway expansion joints, I think the passenger would not be pleased. The new Scout looks good, but after adding different wheels and a few other options the price is headed over 20k out the door, too much for too little.

Thank you! Cheers!

Thanks for asking! Spoked wheels are tubed.

@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon are alloys an option or will I have to buy them separately?

They are not an option on this model for this year. That may change in the future. But all of these accessories fit the other scout models! You can create your own from whichever parts you prefer!

Unfortunately not. Not even the saddlebags on the big baggers would hold a full face helmet. However, The trunks that come on the Roadmasters and Pursuits actually hold TWO full face helmets.

there's not a lot of space inside the bags I'd wait till viking comes out with bags for the new bikes

Currently, these saddlebags have more capacity for storage than any of the available Viking bags for the older Scout models. But we do have baggers if you're looking for more than 18 gallons of storage!

@indianmotorcycleofelcajon no they don't because of the way there shaped inside i went to a demo day and compared them to my bags you can get more into my viking bags

Это абсолютно можно изменить. Это быстросъемное лобовое стекло. На сайте Indian Motorcycle и на вторичном рынке доступны другие размеры и оттенки.

Yeah, we have had plenty of requests for this same thing. For most of the hard-case bags like on the Chieftains and Pursuits, they are electronically locking, luckily. But for the mid and full size cruiser, like the scouts and chiefs, they haven't made a locking set from factory, yet. But for those who like the idea of having storage without spending extra money on added parts, the Super Scout is the best option. We do love Ends Cuoio, though! Great quality bags but $450-$800 just for one side bag isn't for everyone.

We have one available here right now. Why don't we just ship it to you?

@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon Interesting offer, but I'm in Alabama. I'm working with my local dealer. Thanks!

I can understand that. But car manufacturers have been doing this for years. The pin code can always be changed and updated as much as you wish.

The easy answer is that the Challenger is much more efficient with heat. But to what degree in comparison to your RG will depend on what you actually have. Between the air and oil cooled Twin Cam, the Milwaukee, and even the new RG, they all run hot in my opinion. While the new RG has liquid cooled heads, the PowerPlus engine on the Challenger is completely liquid cooled and maintains its temperature much more efficiently. To find out for yourself, you should ride one. We do test rides all the time. Are you around the Socal area?

You are absolutely right. BUT it also has 38 more ft lbs of torque that the scouts. Both hp and torque play a role in the powerband in different ways.

@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon no, horsepower moves vehicles. People who talk about torque generally have no idea what they're talking about. Torque firgures just describe how much horsepower an engine is making at a particular RPM. Horsepower is derived from a formula that will tell you how much wheel torque you can produce using gearing. That's what actually matters.

Almost. Torque is what gets your motorcycle moving from a standstill and helps it climb hills or tow heavy loads. It’s the “oomph” you feel when you rotate the throttle. By definition, torque is a measure of the rotational force applied to an object. Horsepower, on the other hand, is a measure of the rate at which work is done. Horsepower determines the top speed and acceleration of your bike. It’s what keeps you moving at high speeds.

@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon one part of your comment is correct, horsepower determines your acceleration. Torque measured at the motor is nearly meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Torque at the WHEEL is what matters. And how do we get torque at the wheel? Conveniently, horsepower is a formula that describes how much wheel torque your engine can produce using gearing. That's what you feel when you rotate the throttle, WHEEL TORQUE. That OOMPH is horsepower, not torque. Because as you said, it's horsepower that is accelerating the bike.

What can I say? You seem to know it all. Well done. Regardless, it sounds like a traditional pushrod engine, like the Thunderstroke, is not for you as it is designed for more torque than horsepower. You would be much happier with a DOHC engine in a Scout, FTR, or Challenger.

Its more than just the engine. Yes, the 111 has less torque at 119 ft lbs, but there is also an aesthetic difference and a feature difference. The base Chieftain will have more matte finishes than gloss specifically around the engine and in the cockpit. For features, the base will not come with navigation, tpms, or electronically locking saddlebags. It also only comes in Black Metallic right now. But it does give you the Thunderstroke, Ride Command, fork-mounted fairing, saddlebags, and touring suspension for a much lower price.

@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon thanks for the information

Anytime!

Haha welp, there it is

Thanks for watching!

No, unfortunately not. Apple CarPlay requires a 7 inch display screen to use. And none of the Indian Motorcycles utilize Android Auto... yet.

Nicely done! We are currently sitting on one last 2023 Chieftain Limited with Rinehart Exhaust and one last 2023 Roadmaster Dark Horse. I wonder if we can best the price you got? You should call us at 619-328-1901

Yes, it does have a sidestand switch.

​@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon can it be added to the 2023 models? And if so, what does it take to do so?

To my knowledge, as of right now, only the new 2025 Scouts have the ability to upgrade between the analog display and the digital. The 2023 Chief models did come ride command if it was a dark horse or limited model.

​​@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon I'm not asking about the display. It's about the side stand switch. Is it possible to get a side stand switch to work on the 2023 and older Chiefs since the previous years to 2024 did not come with one installed.

Sorry for the delayed response. Had to do some research for you. For previous years, the switch was an option on some international Dark Horse models, not on US models. For all of my inventory here on 2024s, it is standard. Luckily, they all use the same wire harness and it does look like it can be added on. It will require part #4014289 and two screws part #7516610. This should work for both 2022s and 23s. Any Chiefs previous to 2022, it will not work as those were different models all together.

Glad you liked it! But I mean, 15 seconds to get to the main screen isn't that bad, right? Think of it this way, how long does it take your phone to start up after its been turned off? And there is no need to wait for the screen to boot for you to start the engine so that's a plus.

Unfortunately there is no Android Auto for Indian Motorcycle... yet.

Anytime! Thanks for watching!

We can't wait to see what they come up with next! A Challenger without a fairing? An entry level FTR? An adventure bike? Who knows?!

How about a water cooled four cylinder tourer !

Haha! Bring back the Indian Four?! Not a bad idea... Time will tell.

Great question! There is a GPS puck pre-installed from the factory. You do not need to have your phone connected in any way to use navigation and you do not pay any subscription to use navigation. The only subscription service that Indian Motorcycles uses is for Ride Command+, which would enable extra features like traffic & weather overlay and connected services on the ride command app. It is $99 per year but not required to use navigation.

Hey, not everything is for everyone! The red wheels have been a hit and miss for customers and the pinstriping looks much better in person. I am actually a big fan of this one, my favorite Elite so far. Maybe next year's will be more your speed!

Not to my knowledge, no. You should be able to enter your email and password on the RC display regardless of whether the app is open. You are correct, it uses bluetooth but not for authentication. Thats what the password is for.

Mostly because Indian Motorcycle doesn't list the horsepower under their specs. For reference, the Thunderstroke 116 in a Springfield, Chieftain, or Roadmaster has 92 HP. Since the Chief line was tuned less for the reduced weight, it is 87 HP on the Chief with the 116. Remember, the Thunderstroke is a pushrod engine built for low end torque. A DOHC engine, like the the 2025 Scout, will be built for more HP as it comes with up to 111 HP, even though it is only 1250cc.

Great question! They will both connect through regular pairing for bluetooth! There is a USB port for charging or Ipod use as well. You will be able to see what music is playing, as well as who is calling you, and all sound will be heard through your helmet. A big difference is that the new 2025 Scouts use the FTR control cubes and so the toggle to control the music will be different than the Chief models. But the function is the same.

Over here, we have heard both sides of that. We definitely have customers who have said they wish it was faster, more responsive, and as seemless as their phone, but on the other hand, we have had others who absolutely love it when compared to Harley's system and have never expressed any issues whatsoever.

@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon I appreciate your reply. Maybe I have a bad unit in my Challenger. The GPS is slow and often not only doesn't recognize any addresses, but also doesn't know where we are half the time. The trip computer is cumbersome to load, stops tracking halfway through my rides, and won't upload rides to the app. I do like the Community and Service Schedule functions.

It might be worth looking into an update if you have not done so. Maybe both a software update as well as a map update. ridecommand.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/app/display/PII-7-IND/region/world/subregion/world/download/

Thank you!

You're very welcome.

The flashing screen is just because of the frame rate of the video taken. It has nothing to do with the quality of the bike.

BTW, video records frames per second unlike human eyes. The screen does NOT flicker. Has to do with the video recording, smh. Try looking at different LED large tail lights and LCD screens through a video recorder on different frame per second settings and you will see what I mean.

No idea what you mean by laggy response. All of ours are pretty responsive. As for startup time, I don't know about you but when I turn my phone on, it takes a minute to boot up. However, if it makes you more confident to stay with the analog display, go for it. Just keep in mind for the current model year chiefs, you would be getting the smaller engine also.

Glad you think so!

Unfortunately, not. The 4in display screen comes as an accessory now, but only the 2025 models are equipped for it. I wish it was as easy as a plug-and-play option for previous years, but it won't work.

Yes! The 101 will come with 6in risers and moto handlebars from the factory. There will also be a 4in riser and a 10in riser as options. But beyond that, Indian Motorcycles will still make the standard handlebars, reduced reach, extended reach, 10in mini apes, and beach handlebars. As far as we know, every one of those options will be interchangeable between the scouts but you may want to change the risers to the 4in i you do any of those. You will also get the new option for mid-control pegs! Best piece of advice is to test ride one as soon as you can and make your own decision based on those needs.

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@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon Thanks Christian, I need pull back…hoping these can provide.

We can always set up a pre-order for you. Call in the store 619-328-1901. With the pre-order, whichever bike you'd like will come reserved just for you. Once its here, lets make sure everything works in your favor and you'd be one of the first to own one!

From what we're seeing, the new model line for the scout mirrors the success of the new Chiefs. And so far, people are loving both.

Soon, my friend! Soon! You know we get hungry here.

Unfortunately, Apple CarPlay requires at least a 7 inch display screen so not on this version of Ride Command but the larger version, yes.

@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon So ride command on the scout 101 will not allow me to navigate from my phone or listen to music?

Yes and no? The Ride Command on the new 2025 scouts will allow you to control the music from your phone in your helmet from the left control cube, and full navigation with turn-by-turn directions will come with the bike. But you will not be able to use Apple CarPlay. That is reserved for the larger screens. So any navigation planning will have to be done either on the Ride Command screen or the Ride Command Website.

Corporate told you that? That's interesting. check out this link to the Indian website. Scroll down and you'll see which features are attached to the 7in vs the 4in. As well as what you should be able to do on the App vs the Website. But I'm glad you liked the video! Anything else we might have missed? www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/touch-screen/

Couldn't agree more!

That just means you get a nice little ride in every time you visit! Congratulations and ride safe!

You can always pre-order one with us. We've shipped to Florida before. No problem.

Great question! I should have covered that part. The 4 inch display does not give you the ability to pre-plan a route, BUT you can do it on the Ride Command Website. Once you create the route on the website, you can then select the route on the screen shown at 10:31 in the video. Ride safe!

@@indianmotorcycleofelcajon Awesome. That seems great. I can plan the exact route in advance on the website, download it to the bike, then ride the route! I'm down with this! Many thanks once again for showing off the tech here.

Well, believe it or not, the vast majority of riders don't want to spend unnecessary time wrenching on their bike. They would rather be riding. And it sound like you've got some pretty bad experiences with your previous choice of motorcycle. You should give an Indian a try. And don't worry, we still have some pre-owned with analog gauges and cable throttle for all the traditionalists out there. Ride safe!

Such stupid comments! Why do you want to buy a bike to just work on it ? SMH Nothing you mentioned makes any sense in today's world. Get out of the 60's easy rider. If you don't like the features such as the Bluetooth, then don't use it. It's an option not a necessity. SMH Geez!!!

Matthew, we use that term of trim level to help people understand the differences when comparing the Chief Dark Horse, and Chief Bobber Dark Horse. Those two, plus the Sport Chief, all have the same engine, frame, and technology. For most, that makes it easier to value the suspension upgrade and accessory changes.

Deals are made everyday, my friend. Let us know what your needs are and we will do our best to make it real.

Glad you liked it!