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Shorthandist
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Gregg Shorthand - How to Write Numbers
This is a quick overview of how to write numbers and units in Gregg Shorthand. It is easy to learn and a great way to speed up your notes.
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How to Learn Gregg Shorthand - Penmanship and Style.
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Some thoughts on how to improve the appearance and style of your shorthand writing.
Starting a Commonplace Book in Shorthand
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Starting a commonplace book is a great way to keep track of quotes and other things that make an impression on you. Keeping it in shorthand is even better!
Top 3 Reasons to Learn Shorthand
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Thanks for watching. These are the top 3 reasons I think you should stick with shorthand. I'm a Gregg user, but there are many systems, and this applies to all of them!
How To Learn Gregg Shorthand - Learning to Read
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I think this is the best way to rapidly improve your Gregg Shorthand. You know how to write and you're developing speed, but you're still hesitating with new words, and you can't read back your own notes after you've forgotten what they're about. You need to become a good reader! I recommend choosing something entertaining that will keep the task enjoyable. All of these books are available as d...
How to Learn Gregg Shorthand - Getting Started
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This is a Gregg shorthand tutorial that gives you an overview of the alphabet, and eases you into the system in a low pressure environment. 1916 Manual - archive.org/details/1916GreggShorthandManual-5thVersion1916/page/n19/mode/2up
Hi! I came across your video after my friend shared her writings that she made during meditations, and I became curious about the origin and meaning behind those symbols. They slightly resemble the shorthand. Do you know by any chance anybody who could decipher? Hope it’s okay to ask and please delete if not allowed. Thank you for your video 🙏🏻 It’s very interesting!
wizard writing. thats all im saying.
It sad they don’t make steno pad like they did. The back cover is way too soft.😢
how do I learn shorthand as a leftie?
My dad was leftie and learned, so I know it's possible! I think he shifted the paper slightly sideways, but unfortunately I don't know the details.
"Lets see if you can figure out what this one means" I mean..... i think i might know it..... but i just, didnt think youd be so open to cussing 😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love your videos! but man, that's some odd way to hold a pen!
Hi, so im trying to learn shorthand to help me with school and cause it's cool. Im currently using the manuel and noticed dots and dashes for the vowels when using words. However, when I look at people writing, i dont see any of them use dots or dashes beside the letter, and im a bit confused. Im aiming for a quick way to write words down and does adding the dots and dashes to the words take more time to do?
Hi, yes that is a very early form of gregg shorthand, they also decided that was too much work and refined the system. I would recommend switching to a later version of gregg, maybe Gregg Simplified, which doesn't use the dashes and also cuts down on the number of shortforms you have to learn. You can find a Simplified manual for a few bucks on ebay.
I’m a lefty, English letters are designed to be written R handed. Took me forever to realize this but it seem naturally easier to write precisely when your pulling towards your hand. I’ve adapted to this ofc but shorthand look even more right hand designed, everything is a L-R stroke. Any lefties use this? My thoughts were to reverse the strokes but that requires flipping the entire direction of writing. Since I can’t rely on people being able to read shorthand anyway and just learn it backwards? I wonder if my brain can handle this after a life of LR writing
an interesting problem to solve! My dad was left handed and learned shorthand, but like many lefties in a righty world, he learned to sort of write upside down. But if the shorthand is only for you and you don't need anyone else to read it, I say customize as you see fit. happy writing!
here i am in 2024 learned about shorthand writing from a Nancy Drew game and got intrested and I might learn myself before getting into collage to help me take notes
it's great for that!
What shorthand is he writing in?
gregg shorthand
But where does one start? Is there a book that teaches?
yes! if you watch my first video it gives some demos and recommends which books
I learned shorthand decades ago, and the older I get with cranky, achy hands, the more I’ve been thinking about shorthand. I think I’m going to give it a go for note-taking, where no one needs to know what it says but me :o)
it's great for that
@shorthandist Oh, thanks - I hope so! I'm disappointed with the gradual degradation of my handwriting, and this would give me one way to address that issue :o)
Is the linked document the best/easiest book to learn from?
I think so. There are a variety of versions and textbooks. Personally I think starting out with Simplified and getting that text book is the way to go.
I LOVE THIS I wanna design my own shorthand-inspired alphabet and see how densely and beautifully I can transcribe some Tolkien
"hey can I see your notes real quick?"
WHO TF HOLDS A PEN LIKE THAT
Would Gregg be the standard style taught in the majority of secretarial schools, back in the day?
Yes, gregg was very popular, especially in the US
Hi! I just found your channel and I'm so excited. I hope you will make more videos. I think there is a real need for short hand. As someone who is neurodivergent I'm always trying to find ways to write notes faster in lectures when I was in school and now when I'm at work in meetings. I also believe that handwriting can be better for learning. Plus you don't always have a computer with you. I think this is just a great skill!!
I agree! I'll make more soon!
Great content, excellent presentation!
Thanks!
I’m an artist and I’m starting to teach myself so I can write down ideas for scenes I want to paint. I write in the form of stories and I struggle with adhd so removing distracting tech while also writing even faster is a win win for me. Plus I’m work is so heavily influence by by the early 1900s-1960s it just feels very on brand for me lol
perfect!
This is awesome
wait, so some words are entirely written vertically? wouldn't that take up a lot of room?
It depends how big you write, but I think you probably get fewer words perpage than longhand, especially writing at speed
Trying to reach 110 wpm
Utter rubbish
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Hi there, I aced Gregg steno when I was young but have forgotten it all now. I’ve decided to learn again. Can you please tell me what size graph paper you recommend (4/1? 5/1?). I’ve “subscribed” to your channel and am looking forward to learning more.
I think it's personal preference depending on whether you naturally write large or write small, but for me, I prefer the 5mm squared graph paper size. hope that helps!
@@shorthandist Thanks for letting me know 🙂
At 1:42 I stopped the video because I didn't see any indication that the remaining video would be anything different. This video: How to learn shorthand: Write this character 50 times. Next write this character 50 times. Repeat with all characters. Rinse and repeat. 11 minutes later the video ends. You could have saved yourself, and everybody else, a lot of time by just saying "Write each character 50 times. Well until next time... please don't forget to like, subscribe, and comment!" Video ends. Video length: about 15 seconds
Sobbing 😭 for real though, I love the tutorial, it was really fun to fallow!
I only want to know this for fun 😂
it is fun!
what do i do if i know the strokes, i can write it. But I cant read it for the life of me unless i wrote it
I recommend looking up some of the books I show in the video (there are free scans online) then search for a regular copy in english, you can have them open side-by-side on the computer and practice reading the shorthand, and when you get stuck refer to the english copy. After a while this practice will make you a better reader.
@@shorthandist I tried with hamlet, but i couldnt even make out the first word and they have it formated differently so i couldnt find where i wa s
@@DGTZ2027 Oh yes, that's a translation of a specific book by charles and mary lamb called Tales from Shakespeare. So I would look for a pdf of that. Or maybe start with an easier one like Sleepy Hollow
I learned Teeline shorthand (and speedwriting before that - yes I'm old). I keep looking at these strokes and trying to transcribe them from Teeline, so I have no chance of learning this! The "b" reads as "pl" to me, the "l" reads as "w"... I've got no chance! I'd just end up mixing the two and coming off with an untranscribeable mess!
As a high school student taking lecture based classes this will literally save my life. I’m so excited to learn ❤❤
I am a high school student who is doing a shorthand translator (Gregg notes to text) for their A-level computer science project. Although I’m not proficient at Gregg 😅 (learning though), I think it is doable with AI. What I am missing is feedback: what features do you want on this translator? I’ve attached a questionnaire but any suggestions are welcome! 1. What do you use shorthand for? 2. How useful would a translator (Gregg notes -> text) be (1-10)? 3. What's your reason behind this usefulness rating? 4. Why do you think the usage of shorthand has decreased so much? 5. What was challenging when you first learnt shorthand, and do you think that a translator would help? 6. What are some of the difficulties when translating your shorthand manually? E.g. are there any symbols/strokes/words that are hard to translate. 7. What essential features should a shorthand translator have? E.g. should you be able to personalise it with your own vocabulary. 8. What level of accuracy do you expect / would be acceptable? 9. Who might be the target audience be for this translator today? 10. Any other suggestions for this translator? I’m missing some training data (labeled Gregg words) as well. I think I’ll scrape some from an online dictionary. I love your videos and I find them very insightful and inspiring! Derek.
1) personal note taking, or basically anything I'm writing for myself to read. 2) 3/10 3) Since I can already read it, I wouldn't have too much use for a translator. However, a non-shorthand writer or genealogist might find it 10/10 usefull. 4) Modern court stenography and portable recorders mostly did away with the necessity for it. Since the market had died, it stopped being taught in schools. 5) The main challenge when beginning is to develop the muscle memory to repeat strokes accurately and learn all the new forms, and then learn all the abbreviated short-forms. The next challenge is to learn to read back what you wrote. 6) The difficulty in translating back what has been written is that context is very important. So if you don't know what the situation is it can take some time figure out what the reading of the word is. For example there is specialized shorthand for doctors, for pilots, for government, etc. so if you don't know the shortforms for the those fields you will struggle to translate it. There are also many phrases reduced to compiund strokes For ones own notes however this is not such an issue. 7) I suppose a translator would need to be able to interpret context to produce the correct reading, or possible have a drop-down that allowed you to choose from multiple readings. For example: Man and Main are spelled the same in gregg shorthand, you decide which it is based on the context of the sentence. 8) Probably getting the gist of the sentence 9) I would think the target audience would be non-shorthand writers who want to translate historical documents. There are many people who find their deceased grandmothers shorthand diary in the attic and have to track down someone to translate it. But if there were software that would be useful for people who want to keep the contents private. 10) I think it would have to have a wide tolerance for error. People's handwriting varies quiet a bit, and many writers make mistakes or develop idiosyncrasies which are incorrect to the system but they do nonetheless because they are writing only for themselves.
This would be so much better if you used lined paper. Please consider it for other videos.
Lawddddd this gave me a headache..... absolutely no need for shorthand anymore, honestly probably never was
I'm pretty happy to see that this channel is still active. Kudos.
Oh my god, is this where the terms en and em dash come from? The sizes of their shorthand dashes?
Oh, that's so funny! I don't think so, though. I think it comes from the dashes being the width of a capital letter M and N, but a very interesting observation !
Ok, so learning only the letters is already hard, BUT THERE ARE LETTER COMBINATIONS (Like SH)?????? Nah im still only learning shorthand without combinations.
I love your videos so much, they actually motivate me to keep learning. Please don't stop making them!
I'll do another soon!
My grandmother taught me a bit of shorthand when i was in middle school. No one borrowed my notes lol
I think it could be cool to see some basic words and phrases. Something like “I am Bob. I have a dog” to get a better idea on connecting letters
Thank you for this! Preparing for stenography class 👍🏽💯
Do more content on gregg, please, Love your work
In my country their is a specific job for stenographer, but what is the need in which kind of works this language is useful
in the past stenographer, but today, it is mostly for personal note taking, and fun.
The way he holds his pen hurts me haha
HE'S BACK!
any requests?😆 (other than changing how I hold a pen)
@@shorthandist Something I think that is a common question among beginner Gregg users is which version to pick, a good idea is explaining each and how they differ from each other, pros and cons, similarities, etc. Perhaps maybe recommend one and talk about the version you use. idk man, there's many niche ideas when it comes to niche topics
@@burntoast7628 great idea!
Babe, wake up, new shorthandist dropped.
As long as youtube exists there will be people who will find and cherish these videos among the few that exist about shorthand. You've already done so much with the videos you've made, so take it leisurely and make them because you get something out of them. And we'll keep watching for as long as it's fun for you.
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OK but I need something that's going to help me take much faster notes by tomorrow, not like a year from now.
thats a tight window. there's a version of Gregg called "notehand" which is much pared down and faster to learn
You have no idea how elated I am to see a new video from you. Your channel inspired me to pick up shorthand, but I thought you wouldn't upload anymore. That in itself would be totally fine, no pressure. I am all the happier to see this video. ❤
I'll try to upload more regularly!
No worries and no stress. As long as you have the time and you are having fun, us over here, we will surely be happy to see a new video anytime you get to it. 🤗
Everyone else has such good reasons for learning short hand but I just wanted to be able to read my eye floaters for a silly joke about a new form of divination