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You're very welcome!

I do not have a tutorial for this. Unfortunately, I stopped training this after some elbow issues unrelated to throwing and haven't revisited this in a long time.

I am not sure I understand what you mean by the moment of the click. Are you talking about the release of the knife? Can you give me the minute and second of the video time where this happens in the video?

It was a mask. It was cold, and someone was burning lots of firewood.

Sorry for the late response. It's the one sold by Acejet. It was cheaper when I originally got it. I'm not sure what's the pricing now.

You can do it!

Don’t do it. For a new learner, it’ll interfere with understanding the relaxed, springing finger tendon. You’ll end up compromising the technique to make this knife stick at the expense of more common/regular knife shapes. When I first got this knife, I was still relatively new and I found that when I finally got this knife to stick with Skanf, it messed up my technique going back to my other knives. Once I got better, it became less of a factor but for anyone new, avoid it for now to avoid developing bad habits and bad techniques. In fact, I recall speaking with the creator Kim when shopping his knives and he discouraged using this knife for Skanf at the time. I still picked it up because it was different and I wanted to mess around with it, but then I learned after this was why he discouraged it.

@@SilenMonserThanks for the quick reply! Anything you would recommend? Price isn’t really an issue. I’d rather buy once then buy something that needs to be replaced. I usually buy my stuff from Delta ( I’m not in the US )

To be precise, the butt of the knife sits a bit further back from the base of your index finger. If you were to make a fist while holding a pen or a marker in hammer grip, it would sit roughly where your index finger nail touches your palm (if you’ve seen/done palmistry, it’ll be just below your life line). Your middle finger’s 3rd knuckle should be able to kind of wrap the butt comfortably. For Skanf, the Fedin grip is essential to teach an important aspect of the body mechanics in the hand, which is to relax and let your tendons/ligaments apply the flexing or the springing energy for you. This is different from other throwing styles that might have you actively “push” or actively “spring” the knife with your index finger. Once you grasp this and are able to throw consistently from at least 6 yards or meters, you can apply very similar concepts to the reverse grip technique. Similarly, once you grasp the nuances of Fedin grip, it almost doesn’t matter how you grip the knife to throw. But that’s at a really high level and all other styles of throwing tend to become equivalent in results at that point.

Yes indeed! Works on fine-tuning the body coordination at higher speed.

@@SilenMonser if i may as u another question: i noticed u seem to always stand at an angle to the target, rather than directly in front if it. Is that a necessity ? Or is that your preference?

@@UROTSUKIDOYI it was just preference

Yes, it was.

@@SilenMonser thats awesome. Glad you passed and became certified to teach this.

@@diamondjutsuah, to clarify, I have not yet been certified. My videos were made to explain how Skanf works because there were quite a few people here criticizing/confusing the meaning of “pull, don’t push”. Misha had given me his consent to keep the videos up as long as I credit him as my teacher, but I also advise everyone interested in learning properly and efficiently to reach out to him as well. After all, Skanf is like martial arts: you can open your mind to the concepts and the techniques, but it’s harder to learn a martial art properly from a video, and best to learn directly from a teacher.

Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos 🙂. So first and foremost, all of us Skanf practitioners will advise you to pick up cheap 6" nails. They're cheap, readily available at Home Depot or Lowes, and easily replenish able. Remember that Skanf is a style of throwing meant to be able to throw ANYTHING at anytime (don't mean to shout, it's more to emphasize the approach). KNIFES: If you're not aware of it yet, be mindful that good quality throwing knives in the knife-throwing world are generally pricey. Minimum $40 per piece (not set). ------------------------------------- US-MADE: If it's US-made knives you're looking for, I'd recommend Prince Steel Knives. Anything in the no-spin category will be fine but when it comes to Skanf, keep it under 11 inches. Any longer and you're going to compromise your body mechanics for Skanf. Learn to adjust later. Prince Steel Knives models: Drachens Fangzhan, Schlack, TomTom, Ares, and Punisher. If you're able to get your hands on a Flying Steel knife like the Amulet, that will work as well. There's also Rando Bo Mcknees. He's working with Alvis (who is a certified Skanf instructor) on designing a knife at the moment. ------------------------------------- INTERNATIONAL: If outside of the US is okay: Throwingzone.fr (a French company) is another source. They're both a reseller and a producer. I would say the Osetr Origins, Arrows, Javelins, and Surgeons are models that will work. Another source which actually used to sell official Skanf blades is Delta2Alpha.com (someone there is a Skanf practitioner as well... might have been Ace(?)). They're located in Canada so the prices you see are in Canadian dollars. Through there is Kim Vitaly's Spets 3 Pro Large (looks like a kunai), one of the models many of us like to use. There's also the "Villain" model which looks similar to the tantogata that I like to use for Skanf as well - that should work fine. If you're able to get anything directly from Russia, there's Lefux's Fregat models (one of my favorites, this was before the war). You can also try contacting Mikhail Belyaev directly (he was my teacher). He's on Instagram. ------------------------------------- ON A BUDGET: If all of these are out of budget for you, the next best place would be on Etsy (seller: LaForgeDuFaune). But with his blades, just be aware they're on the bigger side. He takes custom orders and there's not really a special pricing on it since a lot of his craft is made-to-order for the most part. In short, the pricing will generally be on par with the price of his item listings. With that said, you can try requesting a smaller version or even message him with your custom designs (shape, length, thickness, weight, etc.). Amazon also has some blades... but I personally don't like anything made from stainless steel usually because of how easily they can burr (dangerous for easily slicing your hand as you try to pull them out of the target). If you're starting out though, many people in the throwing knife community are praising JXE JXO's 9.3" throwing spikes (looks like a kunai with a very round handle). AVOID THEIR 10.23" VERSION (handle has a "squircle" look) as these have been reported to snap easily... bad tempering process. The item title won't say the length but you can check the images to see the measurements. ------------------------------------- ELSEWHERE: Finally, in case none of these are to your liking or within your budget, the general guidelines you can follow are: SHAPE: Notice the general shape of all of the knife models I mentioned. These shapes will generally be what you'll want to stick to when learning. After getting the proper body mechanics and skills down, you can start trying to throw anything. LENGTH: Roughly 10" in length or shorter, and roughly 1" to 1.5" in height. BALANCE: Generally center-balanced is good. You'll run into some statements that say handle-heavy is fantastic for no-spin. Keep in mind, this is for different types of no-spin throws that use a different body mechanic from Skanf. Yes, you can try using handle-heavy knives... but it'll take away from understanding how to use the index finger properly for passive springing/flinging of the knife. WEIGHT: Generally anything from 180 grams to 220 grams is a good start. Heavier may compromise your form, I would go no higher than 280 grams, max (if you're a big person). Lighter is fine. In fact, when you work with the 6" nails, you're fine-tuning and tightening up the coordination of certain motor functions THICKNESS: 6mm is fine. 8mm is also fine. 10mm might be unnecessary but also not a problem. Just remember that the thicker it is, the more weight it'll add. I personally mostly stick to 6mm in general. These guidelines are not absolute, just a starting point. Remember that in Skanf, we're eventually able to throw almost anything from knives to screwdrivers to straight saw blades to needles to kitchen gadgets... anything with a penetrating point. It just takes practice and development to get there 🙂 --------------------------------- I hope this helps!

Thank you for your detailed response. I do Have a set of the JXE JXO Thunder, they are supposed to be the latest that dont break. I have various different sets of Gil Hibben knives. I am pretty new to throwing. I am doing I guess you call it conventional no spin. I am sticking the throws a little better than 50/50 right now. I want to learn the Skanf style and your videos give clear instruction. I am going to get some spikes from Home Depot. I live near chicago and it is getting cold. My target is freezing overnight, gonna have to set up indoors so I can keep practicing over winter. Thanks again.@@SilenMonser

Frisbee definitely works well for focusing on the slinging movement of the arm (and I think I’ve mentioned it before unless it’s an unreleased video) but can lead to some people generating energy from the shoulder if misunderstood. I went with the Elvis analogy to highlight the hips as the main driver of momentum and energy. Or are you referring to a different analogy I mentioned? My knives are generally center-balanced. One set is relatively front-heavy (Flying Steel’s Amulets), which I like a lot. I do have some handle-heavy knives but I don’t like them for Skanf.

@@SilenMonser no no, it wasn’t referred to something, just a consideration… yeah hips movement are basically in all martial art for instance, mainly boxing. I never thrown a knife, but it seems to me that that a loaded blade could help to keep the direction while flying, I am thinking a dart for instance, no?

These are to prototype to the Skanf Inertia knives designed by my teacher Mikhail Belyaev. Delta2Alpha used to sell the finalized version in North America but I don’t see them anymore.

Be careful and take your time to explore the coordination timing

My report will have to wait about a week, threw today without back pain but was consistent with the knife going off target. Need more practice throwing from the side

😄 just need to add in the robotic glide

Boom 💥👊👍

Thank you! 😃

Awesome! 🙌 I'm glad it worked for you brother

Thank you for the reminders and the corrections! ☺️

@@SilenMonser Anytime my friend! Awesome throws :))

Thank you! It's quite a hard thing to explain for me. Even now, I'm still not sure I've covered enough of it to get the concept fully across.

hello hello! it's been awhile 🙂

For learning the course, I reached out to Mikhail Belyaev on Instagram. I assumed that's how the Canadians also learned it, but that's based on my interactions with the awesome people from Delta2Alpha. There are a few Skanf practitioners in the US as well who have been certified to teach by Mikhail. As for my throws pivoting... I'm not sure what you mean but keep in mind that this is just barely part 1 where I'm focusing on the internal body mechanic foundations for brand new people (or people who questioned the "pull, don't push" mindset). You're also free to ask Olga (daughter of the Skanf founder). She commented in this video awhile back below under username "Skanfofficial". She's another teacher that a few of my friends reach out to for discussion and I believe she also gives lessons (although I'm not sure how).

Oh, I think I just understood what you mean about the pivoting. Do you mean why does the knife begin to rotate in that quarter-spin fashion instead of a literal zero-spin fashion? If so, what we've found is that in reality, there is going to be a quarter spin. It's all a matter of camera angles. Since Skanf practitioners usually throw the knife sideways (it's relatively easier and has it's own combat applications), the knife is rotating on a horizontal plane. Since the camera only sees the knife from the side or the front, it's hard to see that rotation/pivot. However for this video, I'm showing an overhand Skanf throw. This is why you're able to see that there actually is a quarter spin. It's camera angles.

@SilenMonser about that wave technique, and it's variations: You can develope an chain motion(=wave technique) also by using your upper body muscles only. You can also develope it by using a stiff body while making it.. ...And also everything between, or mixed up, and with the most relaxed form also. Basically the stiff style is normal throwing, and from my knowledge the most loosen up style is the "real SKANF". Stiff one would be the top choice for most people, if they would be aiming for explosiveness and short movement.. But the meaning (In My Opinion) in Yuri's teachings lays in the relaxation of the body. When mastering the relaxation of throwing, you will understand what wave technique really means. After that you can really adjust you throwing, by changing the waves pulses/aplitude etc... And then, finally you can throw very relaxed, explosively and with minimum arm movement... And with any stance etc...

Thanks for the advice! I’ll work on the adjustments

With No-Spin, a few of my martial brothers have thrown from at least 20 meters or yards. I believe 26 meters was the furthest I've seen. Consistently though, I believe 10 meters is the furthest I've seen consistently sticking. Joel Holopainen is among those who practice at that range. Half-spin, you can try judging by watching the competition/demo video here of the late founder Yuri Fedin: ua-cam.com/video/IFKNndWhrQM/v-deo.html. Reverse-grip/Ice-pick grip, 6 to 8 meters is the furthest I've seen so far. Suitable for close-quarters combat if really necessary or pulling off a specific strategy. Lester Flor is quite proficient in the reverse-grip throw from long range (8-10 meters?). However, he claims he does not practice Skanf although the body mechanics appear to be Skanf (unfortunately, you cannot discern Skanf just by how it looks). I hope this answered your question.

Thanks!

Thanks!