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Robert Smith's Guitars
This is an overview of some of the guitars we use during our live shows.
The Obscure is a Los Angeles based Cure tribute band. During lockdowns we are trying to do something a bit different since the clubs are closed.
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Review of Robert Smith Jazzmaster & Top 20
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Review of Robert Smith Jazzmaster & Top 20
Robert Smith The Cure Pedal Board
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The Obscure is an Los Angeles based tribute band for The Cure. During the lockdowns, we aren't playing any shows so we figured we would do whatever we can to bring you information and music of The Cure. We will be using our channel to post demonstrations of Robert's guitars, pedals and amplifiers as well as gear from Porl, Reeves and Simon. We have all of it and we want it and want to share it ...
Robert Smith Dance
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Robert Smith Dance

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  • @josefinamartinez2251
    @josefinamartinez2251 2 роки тому

    Nice dance

  • @MrDragonballaf19
    @MrDragonballaf19 3 роки тому

    name of the song?

    • @mlgespegsky000x
      @mlgespegsky000x 3 роки тому

      Screw

    • @SK-sm9mn
      @SK-sm9mn 3 роки тому

      As Ho Chi says it’s called Screw and it’s on the 1985 album Head on the Door

  • @idfkwgo
    @idfkwgo 3 роки тому

    I love him so much his existence can cheer anyone up:)

  • @vincent8833
    @vincent8833 3 роки тому

    Excellent video. I knew about the Teisco pickup in his Jazzmaster, but never such a detailed comparison/explanation video. Thanks for posting it !!

  • @nonstopnonsens2241
    @nonstopnonsens2241 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the Video!👍 Do you know which pedals Robert used in the concert in Orange 1986 for the song A Forest? Amazing Sound!

    • @Widthatnut
      @Widthatnut 3 роки тому

      PSM-5 / DM-3 / BF-2 / OD-1 / CE-2 / GE-7. In this order.

  • @frankfrank7921
    @frankfrank7921 3 роки тому

    Very interesting. Obsessive, but interesting. Nice to see Robert isn't stuck in the 80s with the analog versions but has updated many of his Boss pedals to digital ones.

  • @lastoftheurgents1965
    @lastoftheurgents1965 3 роки тому

    i'd invest in a microphone so we can hear what you're saying

    • @Medic911LA
      @Medic911LA 3 роки тому

      Thanks for the advice. We learn more and more each time we do these videos!

    • @lastoftheurgents1965
      @lastoftheurgents1965 3 роки тому

      @@Medic911LA I just thought it was a shame as you have such an impressive collection of guitars and have studied the sunject well but i was having real trouble hearing what you were saying. cheers

  • @dddd717
    @dddd717 3 роки тому

    Boss had a catalog that showed RS rig and the pedals and amp he used and it even had settings. It also had other artist rigs as well..

  • @SimonMas
    @SimonMas 3 роки тому

    can i say that writing the settings on a paper tape is simple and yet pure genius? i never thought of that. it will spare me so many headaches...

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Yeah we picked up that trick from Robert’s board. He also has some notes taped to the top edge of his Schecter guitars. Wouldn’t work so well on a Jazzmaster since the top edge is rounded which makes me think Robert had A LOT of input in designing his signature Schecter guitars. The top edges have a very flat surface. If you look closely at later shows where he is playing the schecters, there are strips of tape with notes. Thanks for the comment and hope you enjoy our channel!

    • @SimonMas
      @SimonMas 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 I'm gonna watch the other episodes, but this trick alone has made my day :) thank you!

  • @NewFalconerRecords
    @NewFalconerRecords 3 роки тому

    Prince used Boss pedals extensively too, I believe. Also Steve Vai, who figures that if one goes wrong on tour, any major music store in any city in the world will most likely have a replacement in stock. Not so if you're using some obscure boutique brand.

  • @catmoonmedia8223
    @catmoonmedia8223 3 роки тому

    Great video. It’s amazing that Smith uses ordinary Boss pedals instead of vintage or boutique or rack mounted units. So refreshing actually instead the of the crazy obscene setup of someone like the Edge.

  • @Darla_Lo
    @Darla_Lo 3 роки тому

    I've played guitar for as long as I have listened to The Cure, don't think I was even a teen then, it is nice to hear about Robert Smiths guitars and gear. I've always considered him a guitarist and not just a song writer. Guitarist get noticed for their sound, so equipment becomes an interest, The Cure definitely has a guitar driven sound, a sound that is more individual rather than a variation.

  • @Darla_Lo
    @Darla_Lo 3 роки тому

    I thoroughly enjoyed that, Thanks!

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment. We hope you enjoy our channel. We are trying to put more stuff out. If we have day jobs too!

  • @filipvanhuy531
    @filipvanhuy531 3 роки тому

    Hey, I watched your video and I enjoyed it a lot. Nice done ! Everything that was shown seems to be correct in some way. I am a huge Cure fan since childhood and also like to play a song of them from time to time. The biggest problem is usually finding the same tone. If possible, could you show me the setup for the riffs and solo of "The Loudest Sound" and play a bit to show the resemblance. The riffs are almost clean but with a special twist on it, the solo lightly distorted but with something special at the low end. So if you find time...

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Thanks so much for the great comment. We will be working on some videos during the next week or so and will put this in the list.

  • @robertbuilder8001
    @robertbuilder8001 3 роки тому

    I remember him telling us off for not dancing at Newcastle City Hall in the early 80s. I was four rows from the front and felt like his wrath was directed at me lol. You weren't allowed to go down the front and dance in those days at that venue. The rule probably still exists I'd guess.

  • @chrisandersen5635
    @chrisandersen5635 3 роки тому

    How curious. Very nicely done. I remember Robert saying he liked the Boss pedals because he can see the colors even on the darkened stage.

  • @EchoApexFirstEcho
    @EchoApexFirstEcho 3 роки тому

    So the Chorus is an Always On effect straight into the amp( Guitar-Chorus pedal-front of Amp)?

    • @UnremarkableMarx
      @UnremarkableMarx 3 роки тому

      Amps aren't always distorted. If it's low on dirt then it's not a problem to chorus right into the amp.

    • @medulasa1
      @medulasa1 3 роки тому

      Yeah, specifically bc a lot of the Cure material was written on Roland Jazz Chorus 120s, which has the same chorus circuit as the Boss CE-2, which is the pedal he uses.

  • @gunnerjenson
    @gunnerjenson 3 роки тому

    inaccurate because were using a lid ha ha ha

  • @johnnydiamondsmusic1673
    @johnnydiamondsmusic1673 3 роки тому

    Love what you are doing.

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Thanks! Let us know what you want to see. We just posted a video on our bass players budget Simon Gallup rig.

  • @johnnydiamondsmusic1673
    @johnnydiamondsmusic1673 3 роки тому

    I am waiting for my Squire Bass VI to come back from set up. My 80s rig will sound good with it I think will be using my 80s Ibanez Flanger & Tube Screamer plus maybe my space Echo.

  • @PhilTiki
    @PhilTiki 3 роки тому

    Impressive collection! Very nice.

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Thank you! We will be doing individual demos of each guitar. Let us know what you want to see

    • @PhilTiki
      @PhilTiki 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 Maybe you can answer this question. Is the only difference between the RS1000 acoustics the electronics and top graphic? In other words, are they the same guitar? I don’t know if I want to spend double just for a nice pickup system. Thanks

    • @theobscure1938
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      @@PhilTiki there are 2 Schecter Robert Smith acoustics available. One has the solid white Star RS 1000 and the one with the outline of the star (RS Busker). The busker has no electronics in it at all. If you are not looking for an electric acoustic, then the busker is a great guitar.

    • @PhilTiki
      @PhilTiki 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 Yes. My question was, are they the same guitar? Did they take a Busker, give it a different paint job and put electronics in it to make it a Stage or is the Stage a totally different build?

    • @theobscure1938
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      @@PhilTiki according to schecters website, when comparing the two, specs are the same as far as nut width, neck profile and measurements.

  • @trentc7329
    @trentc7329 3 роки тому

    This just popped up on my recommends and I am shocked and pleased to see they use such working man's gear. I would have guessed they used a lot of vintage and boutique stuff. I wouldn't blink if I saw those pedal boards at a bar band gig this weekend.

    • @McSlobo
      @McSlobo 3 роки тому

      I guess most touring artists want gear that's dependable and easily replaceable. You're screwed if your unique pedal with magic dust inside fails. Of course you can buy a pile of those pedals in stock but why bother when you can get almost identical sounding gear from basically any music store off-the-shelf. There's also a ton of used Boss pedals available if you happen to depend on some certain model and the newer ones don't quite cut it, but I guess a big artist might just send an email to Boss office to ask if they still have a few available.

  • @andrewpappas9311
    @andrewpappas9311 3 роки тому

    This was really damn impressive, great job guys

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Thank you! Glad you like it! We are in the process of making some more sure gear videos!!

  • @johanneslaub2433
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    Another point of interest is the first delay, DD6 or DD7? The 12 o'clock position on the DD7 is 200ms, on the DD3 and DD6 800ms.

  • @DMK-75
    @DMK-75 3 роки тому

    If you watch the Reeves Gabrel’s TC Electronic footage with his tech demonstrating his effects you see in the background RS pedalboard with a different layout of effects. He seems to lose the eq and has added a flanger last in line. The eq pedal is in a separate board with either a noise gate pedal or the LS2 pedal

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Yes that was a 2015 show where he had a different board- he does not have the EQ- on the middle board- he has tuner, blues driver, sd1, delay, phaser, and flanger. Our video focuses on 2016-current but it would be interesting to see the boards from each year.

    • @DMK-75
      @DMK-75 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 Did you take a look at RS’s guitar vault whilst you were close enough to take pictures? Did you get a backstage pass? Some guitars have lyrics attached to the top as small reminders...

  • @DMK-75
    @DMK-75 3 роки тому

    I do have a photo of the RS pedalboard with a different phasor setting. From left to right using the clock face method 9 12 12 11. Not sure what songs use this setting but it’s worth trying.

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Your right,this is what we grabbed from my photos of 2016-2019 board. He has the PH-3 on “fall” setting and couldn’t see that he changed it but possible for other songs in set list at different times, he changes it.

    • @DMK-75
      @DMK-75 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 RS has got more than one pedalboard in reserve so I guess he can pull out different boards depending on the set list etc. He also has a tour flight case full of drawers and one is full of spare pedals

  • @philmyglass8103
    @philmyglass8103 3 роки тому

    i always thought he used(s) an Electro Harmonix deluxe Memory man and electric mistress

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      This is his 2016-current board. You are absolutely right, he did use electric mistress and So many other pedals for recording. We were able to get pics of the stage set up including the amps, pedals, guitars and routes of all cables during 2016-current shows and this is what we found. Any brand you use, you will be able to get The Cure tone.

  • @DMK-75
    @DMK-75 3 роки тому

    Delay pedal is a DD3 set to around 400ms.

  • @robertbuilder8001
    @robertbuilder8001 3 роки тому

    I'd bought one of those Woolworths guitars while at school and it hung around the place pretty much unloved from the day I bought it because soon after a neighbour gave me 'permanent loan' of a bright orange US Strat that I loved. Out on a pub crawl one evening I stumbled into a (young) Cure gig and was astonished to see the guitarist (Smith) playing the Woolworths guitar and sounding amazing. I remember waking up the next morning with a bit of a hangover looking at my Woolworths guitar and wondering if what I'd seen the night before was true. Had I watched someone gigging one of these guitars. I'd forgotten all about it till I saw a video story on UA-cam of Robert Smith's old guitar.

  • @tanguydelooz2881
    @tanguydelooz2881 3 роки тому

    Awesome !! So each board has different guitars connected to it ? Which period is this board from ?

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      This is the 2016-current board. He uses the Lehle 3@1 as shown in this video to connect 2 guitars to the boards. (The regular Schecter electric. The VI and the acoustic)

    • @tanguydelooz2881
      @tanguydelooz2881 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 Ok. However I suppose the boards are not connected is series to each other, right ? Or maybe they are. Actually it stuns me seeing he's using these nice analog pedals. So why do The Cure sound so digital in live concerts these days (years) ?? I suppose it all has to do with the mixing system, the soundsystem and speakers used in the venue. I don't know. (Maybe it's the Roland Cubes.)

  • @GaylordBonnafous
    @GaylordBonnafous 3 роки тому

    He also used an Ovation Breadwinner (1979-84), a Fender XII, a Vox Teardrop (1982-84), mostly with The Banshees, but also sometimes with The Cure. He also used various acoustic guutars, including mostly 12 string Ovation. And Gretsch semi-acoustic guitars from Wish to Bloodflowers.

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      He has played so many great guitars including Aria’s, fenders, gretsch, Gibson, etc. We eventually hope to get each one!

    • @pabcrane
      @pabcrane 3 роки тому

      Hiya, just one little correction (I hope you don't think I'm being an arsehole about it!), Robert used the Gretsches (starting with a Tennessee Rose) after Wish which was done with two Gibson Chet Atkins including the tour. The Gretsches came after that. They're all fantastic guitars though! : )

    • @GaylordBonnafous
      @GaylordBonnafous 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 No Aria, though. And Gibson and Gretsch not on the early albums, but in the 90's.

  • @pabcrane
    @pabcrane 3 роки тому

    Hiya guys. I've watched a couple of your vids. I'd be really curious to see the actual photos that you based your pedal video on. Thanks! Paul

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      The pedal board video actually shows one of the pics of Roberts board on stage. We will make some more videos and try to include those in there.

  • @Sanwitch_69
    @Sanwitch_69 3 роки тому

    Great video! i would love to see one for Simon Gallup's board. his flanger sound on the holy hour has eluded me for a while

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Great idea! I will have our bass player do a video for you.

    • @Sanwitch_69
      @Sanwitch_69 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 i look forward to it, thanks:)

    • @OmegaRectum
      @OmegaRectum 3 роки тому

      I would also be very interested in seeing this!

  • @johanneslaub2433
    @johanneslaub2433 3 роки тому

    In some concert videos, further pedals can be seen in the background below the combos. Is there any information on this? How is the signal flow?

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      I will check my pictures of the stage and see if I can see those.

    • @johanneslaub2433
      @johanneslaub2433 3 роки тому

      How do you get your signature 6-string bass sound? It has always gone through the same three Boss pedals -- a digital delay and a chorus, with a touch of noise gate to cut off the delay. And I always play through the same early-'80s Peavey Ultra head and 4x12 cabinet. The 6-string bass sound is the one thing that has stayed the same since the Faith album in 1981. I've never changed the setup, because I always thought it sounded really good. It's like a cello for me -- a really perfect sound. On the Peavey, the middle is rolled off completely, the bass is half up, the treble is full up, and the presence is set at about half. This really reflects my character, but things are invariably set to 0, 5, or 10 on my amps. I never go for anything in between, because that's fussing about, and it never gets you anywhere. The pedals are always set so that they look right. That sounds a bit stupid, but, in a strange way, it works. There are four knobs on the delay, and they're all set at 12 o'clock -- apart from the knob on the far right, which is set slightly off from 12 o'clock at 800 milliseconds. That's an unfortunate design -- Boss obviously didn't have me in mind when they made that pedal [laughs]. On the chorus, the left-hand knob is at ten o'clock, and the right-hand knob is at two o'clock. It's symmetrical. This isn't insane you know! If you've played enough, you sort of know what something is going to sound like by looking at it.

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      There is a video of Reeves Gabrels pedal board on UA-cam. At 3:25 you can see that pedal board you are referring to. That’s the chorus, an unknown white Boss pedal (noise gate, another eq??) and the Lehle 3@1. We show the Lehle 3@1 on our video what he uses to switch between his guitars.

  • @johanneslaub2433
    @johanneslaub2433 3 роки тому

    No Delay for the Bass VI ?

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      He might use one of the delays along with the VI board, but he definitely has a separate boost, SD-1 and flanger for the VI. We will be doing some tone matching videos soon including the vi

  • @kostaspapas797
    @kostaspapas797 3 роки тому

    Make a giveaway quitar...

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      Schecter are you listening??? Would love to get one to give away!!

    • @kostaspapas797
      @kostaspapas797 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 yes i would🙏🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

    • @samysaab
      @samysaab 3 роки тому

      Very much appreciate this overview! Excellent!

  • @curehm1973
    @curehm1973 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this video

  • @theanonymousg76
    @theanonymousg76 3 роки тому

    Thanks very much for taking the time to record and share this. Question: when playing "A Forest" do you use the small board with the the delay and two flangers on its own, or in addition to the main board? Thanks again!

    • @trip5156
      @trip5156 3 роки тому

      seeing the setting of the boss bf3 I believe that in a forest it uses dd3, bf3 and ge7 I think

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      @@trip5156 that’s what I do as well. I also use the chorus on my JC120. You will notice there is no chorus on Robert’s board. He puts the pedal directly into the amp and it’s an always on for live shows- he says this in a few interviews

    • @trip5156
      @trip5156 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 probably uses the chorus effect of the roland cube amplifier always on

  • @zjarrito
    @zjarrito 3 роки тому

    No Chorus in sight?!

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      He actually puts one straight into amp. It’s an always on.

    • @theanonymousg76
      @theanonymousg76 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 Amazing tip! I suppose it makes the setup closer to the Jazz Chorus amp he used early on.

    • @eboethrasher
      @eboethrasher 3 роки тому

      @@theobscure1938 I was wondering as all documented boards for him in the past had one.

    • @theobscure1938
      @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

      We also found out that Robert has an always on chorus pedal taped down with gaffer tape behind his row of Roland amps. This is according to Josh Scott JHS pedal show on record time. He chose Kiss Me!

  • @vibeclimb5366
    @vibeclimb5366 3 роки тому

    Nice work!

  • @theobscure1938
    @theobscure1938 3 роки тому

    New video from the Obscure...yes I know I said Squier with the Bass VI...meant to say Squier makes a bass VI. I’m holding the Schecter though!!!