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The Cruiser Company Rear Bar Install!
After 12 months of waiting, it has finally arrived! The Cruiser Company rear bar for the Y62. Looks great and is practical too. I am overall, very impressed with the bar, its constructed very well and is fairly easy to install. The design is fantastic. Enjoy!
Weight before the rear bar was 3.24t. After the rear bar its sitting at 3.38t.
So, an increase of 140kgs.
Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?!
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Y63 Is Coming - Here's What We Know!
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Today we go over some information we have of the Y63 so far. Will be interesting to see how the model spec list turns out. Will you get one? Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62
Have You Weighed Your Patrol Recently?
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Today we take a look at how quickly Y62's can become overweight. After getting my Y62 weighed I was shocked to see just how heavy it had become. Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62
This Is What You Want From Your New Dual Battery!
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Today we take a look at AGM Vs Lithium batteries. We look at somethings to watch out for when buying a Lithium battery at what makes for a safer Lithium battery. Any more tips? Feel free to add them below. Below are the links I discussed during the video: Braided Cable Sleeve: www.mil-specdesigns.com.au/products/code-red-braided-sleeve?variant=41048091656226 Fuse Holders: www.springers.com.au/s...
Are You Getting Ripped?
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Today we discuss a fairly touchy subject, however, it is important to talk about. The cost of modification installs seem to be growing and it has to make you wonder why. Let's discuss that! Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62
Hands On With The 2024 Directed Technology Infotainment System Vs The EC Offroad Infotainment System
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Today I head over to Nissan to try, first hand, the updated 2024 infotainment system in the Y62. Things didn't go to plan.... I also compared the EC Offroad infotainment system to see if upgrading to aftermarket was a better option. The results may surprise you! Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji....
4WDing After The 2" Spring Lift - Great Improvement!
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Today we test out the 2" lift and see just how much of a difference it makes when 4WDing. This is a great upgrade for your Y62, regardless if you're towing or touring! Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62
Is The Updated 2024 Y62 Patrol Worth it?
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Today we look over the new updates added to the 2024 Patrol, are they worth it? Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62 *UHF BRACKET IS SOLD*
2 Years On With The Y62 - My Thoughts - Should You Buy One?
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Today we go over my Y62 and my thoughts on it 2 years later. Is it a good option for your next car? Are they worth the money? Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62
2025 QX80 What Does It Bring For The Y63?
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Today we check out the new details of the QX80, the luxury cousin to the new Y63. What will it bring to the new Patrol. We can gauge some interesting, potential new features that may come to us, here in Aus. Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wi...
2" Tough Dog Lift & Air Bags Are In!
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Today we go over the updates done to the car as well as, the new lift that went in! Very Happy with it all and will set us up nicely for the future. Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62
Raslarr S5 Y62 Hoop-less Bullbar Install! (This Looks EPIC!)
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Today we install the hoop-less Y62 front bar, easy enough process and very achievable at home! Love the new look of the car, the bullbar has really enhanced the appeal! Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62
Does Engine Decarb Actually Do Anything!?
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To find just how effective engine decarb is, I decided to conduct a small test to see if even after a short run, basically just a start up would remove any carbon deposits. The Perfect test subject was a neglected lawn mower which boasted some nice carbon. There was a slight improvement, however more run time and regular treatment is preferred. Engine decarb is more of a preventative more so, t...
Pack These Tools For Your Next Trip!
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Today we have a look at some basic tools to bring away on your next trip. This is by no means the be all and end all of lists, however it's a good place to start and gets the brain thinking! What else would you add or subtract from this list? Add it in the comments below! Enjoy. Please let me know down below, what do you want to see next week?! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do ...
How To Change Your Y62 Brake Pads & Rotors!
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Today I go about replacing my rotors and pads on my S5 Y62. It was some sweaty work in the QLD humidity, but the results we're well worth the effort! Hope you all have a fantastic Christmas, stay safe and I'll see you all in the new year! If you do wish to support the channel, you can do so here-withkoji.com/@UCDu-TILr-YVzr9fIZRQ39sg Follow the Instagram @ wild_y62
Be Trip Ready! - Check These Things!
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Be Trip Ready! - Check These Things!
Y63 Rumours and My Thoughts
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Y63 Rumours and My Thoughts
Here Is How You Save $2300 - Blacking Out The Chrome Window Trim!
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Here Is How You Save $2300 - Blacking Out The Chrome Window Trim!
Patrol Talk EP 7 - Why Does This Cost 5.5k?! Maintenance Tips and Warrior Thoughts
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Patrol Talk EP 7 - Why Does This Cost 5.5k?! Maintenance Tips and Warrior Thoughts
What's Best For The Sand? Auto, 4H, 4L?
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What's Best For The Sand? Auto, 4H, 4L?
After Finke Run Down - The Mods I Did
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After Finke Run Down - The Mods I Did
Road to Finke - Part V - The Race
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Road to Finke - Part V - The Race
Road to Finke - Part IV - Dalhousie to Finke
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Road to Finke - Part IV - Dalhousie to Finke
Road To Finke - Part III - After The Rain
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Road To Finke - Part III - After The Rain
Road To Finke - Part II - Birdsville
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Road To Finke - Part II - Birdsville
Road To Finke - Part I - Packing
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Road To Finke - Part I - Packing
Keep You And Your Patrol Safe!
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Keep You And Your Patrol Safe!
Y62 Drawer Build Pt 1
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Y62 Drawer Build Pt 1
Changing Out The Rear Diff Oil!
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Changing Out The Rear Diff Oil!
Where Have I Been?! (Update)
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Where Have I Been?! (Update)

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @slme1000
    @slme1000 7 днів тому

    Hi mate, how did you tap in to the 12V socket? Is it via some sort of a piggyback adaptor or did you expose the existing 12V socket wires and did a soldering job with the UHF wires?

  • @TeliZavalas
    @TeliZavalas 12 днів тому

    I just got my 2024 Y62 TI yesterday, and I'm really happy with the new infotainment system. However, it's disappointing that they removed the 360 camera. Overall, though, I'm quite pleased with the vehicle!

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 10 днів тому

      Glad you are enjoying the car mate. Don't stress about the 360 cameras. A company is making a kit for the new 2024 Patrols to have the 360 cameras back in the car and apparently Nissan is doing the same.

    • @TeliZavalas
      @TeliZavalas 10 днів тому

      @@WLD62 cheers mate, been learning a lot from your videos. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with us. It’s much appreciated.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 10 днів тому

      @@TeliZavalas Appreciate the feedback mate, glad you are getting some value from it. Anything you'd like to see in the future?

    • @TeliZavalas
      @TeliZavalas 9 днів тому

      @@WLD62Anything on dash cams? Thanks again.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 6 днів тому

      @@TeliZavalas Could look into it. Thanks mate!

  • @DarrenBoxhall
    @DarrenBoxhall 19 днів тому

    Bit of a tip. Get a hot glue gun and put small dabs to hold it all after you sika it all on. Will hold it all in place perfectly without the need for tape

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 19 днів тому

      Great tip, thanks mate!

  • @daveross692
    @daveross692 22 дні тому

    Spotted you driving down Dalrymple Rd & Thuringowa Dr. Looked impressive, just couldn’t catch up to give you thumbs up.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 22 дні тому

      Cheers mate! Sorry I missed you. Quite happy with how it turned out.

  • @ashmodownunder
    @ashmodownunder 26 днів тому

    Thanks for the honest review. I always thought it looked cheap and plasticky for the price but no one ever mentioned it in their videos.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 26 днів тому

      I noticed that too. The stars aligned and I was actually able to see it in person. Unsure why no one has mentioned these points. Money I guess.

  • @Dan-yc6vi
    @Dan-yc6vi Місяць тому

    Does the 2024 ti still come with the old head unit?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 29 днів тому

      No, all updated now.

  • @Dmitry17041988
    @Dmitry17041988 Місяць тому

    You included some exhaust from states but left out pacemaker and red back. Strange.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      They weren't so popular back then. Plus I wanted to add something that was different than what Australia sees.

  • @shanevalinoti9518
    @shanevalinoti9518 Місяць тому

    Yes, will be keeping the Y62 - spent too much money and time on it to want to do it all again, probably pay for a new one with what is spent on buying the older one and upgrading it- then have to mod. it. Anyhow, bit of a wait for the new one, might as well enjoy what we’ve got now.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      Yep, 100% agreed mate.

  • @aalkurdi
    @aalkurdi Місяць тому

    I’m sure

  • @DarrenBoxhall
    @DarrenBoxhall Місяць тому

    People are idiots. It's wicked, and will be heaps better than than the y62. Happens with every new model.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      Very true mate.

  • @NZ-Y62
    @NZ-Y62 Місяць тому

    Yep, I'm going to be like you, keeping my y62 for the next 10 years or more

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      Glad to hear it mate. I'm pretty content with the 62 for now. Has everything I need, but keen to see what the 63 is all about.

  • @zachf355
    @zachf355 Місяць тому

    Isnt that a coolant line for the heater

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      Just an AC line.

  • @Tranzeis
    @Tranzeis Місяць тому

    Bose system only had the advantage of a extra subby inside the rear left wheel arch. Current TiL has Harman Infinity upgrades. 8 way on front side and 4 way at the back. (they forgot to count built in coax type tweeters in the advertisement material)

  • @waynelynn-x3v
    @waynelynn-x3v Місяць тому

    Hi. Just bought y62 sa.e colour as yours. Great videos and information. What wheel are you running . They look great . Thanks wayne

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      Hey Wayne, welcome to the club mate. Hope you're enjoying your Y62. I'm running Method 305NVs with Maxxis Razr A/Ts in 295 70 18.

  • @jazzad7106
    @jazzad7106 Місяць тому

    Youll need to also add Cat 6 indicator mirrors for your gvm 😁

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      Good point, will need them too!

  • @reececulver3606
    @reececulver3606 Місяць тому

    Surely there has to be a way to turn that beeping from the sensors off

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      There is, just doesn't bother me enough to turn them off.

  • @gary8397
    @gary8397 Місяць тому

    Entertainment system is supplied by directed Technologies. I phoned them they said go back to the dealer. Went to the Dealer they phoned them would not talk to the dealer had to be in writing. So still waiting for 360 camera. Directed Technologies have no idea of customer service. Looks like we will need to go aftermarket with a seperate screen I was told the video feed for the screen is unique to them so you can't simply use an after market camera. Very sad an Australian Company won't talk to customers.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      Hmmm bit poor there mate. Expected better than that.

  • @TIBORS69
    @TIBORS69 Місяць тому

    I just picked up my 2024 Ti and I think the sound system is terrible. Poor sound quality and doesn’t go very loud!

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      That's a bit unfortunate, they are supposed to be better quality than the Bose. Have you mucked around with the speaker settings at all?

  • @reececulver3606
    @reececulver3606 Місяць тому

    I have to ask what side steps/sliders you are using?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 Місяць тому

      They are these ones here mate:www.sinisteroffroad.com.au/rocksliders-to-suit-nissan-patrol-y62?srsltid=AfmBOooLPgSjR8DCRXiVf4XhkDO_LJHY6xzWqgBUJBeTDrha5I_Sy721

    • @reececulver3606
      @reececulver3606 Місяць тому

      @@WLD62 ahh, awesome! Thank you 😊

  • @joelevans6374
    @joelevans6374 2 місяці тому

    You cant get the 24 screen in pre 24 models, so almost any upgrade is better than standard pre-24. Is it not?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 2 місяці тому

      No, you can't. However if you can find a 24 head unit, that upgrade would be ideal for a 23 or under car. After using the 22 head unit, the 24 and the EC Offroad one. The 24 head unit is my pick. Personal preference though.

    • @joelevans6374
      @joelevans6374 2 місяці тому

      @WLD62 yeah fair enough. We just purchased a new 23 ti-l. I'm tossing up whether it's worth going aftermarket screen or just leaving it as is. I'm starting to think a phone holder is the way to go haha.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 2 місяці тому

      @@joelevans6374 Very nice, enjoy the car! Something I always say to people, what do you want the infotainment system to do? The stock one is fine, it works, it has bluetooth and all features work as intended. I'm use to it now and dont really have any gripes, better maps would be ideal, but your phone can do that. A phone holder is a great option and allows you to see your maps or whatever it may be.

    • @joelevans6374
      @joelevans6374 2 місяці тому

      @WLD62 cheers mate! I'm absolutely loving it so far, only had it 4 days. Just got back for a 2 hour drive and I'm already noticing the more I use it, the more normal it becomes. I think being on all the 62 Facebook pages for months leading up to buying one convinced me that I needed to change it before I'd even bought one. I'll definitely be mounting the phone.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 2 місяці тому

      @@joelevans6374 Glad you're enjoying it mate, best all round car I reckon. There is that problem of everyone just jumping on the bandwagon for different products, without having much thought. Something I am trying to highlight on my channel. In some cases these new products are just a waste of money. A lot of these after market screen don't work as advertised or have issues. Best to stay OEM where you can or research an aftermarket system well, beforehand.

  • @jazzad7106
    @jazzad7106 2 місяці тому

    Got this unit going in on Thursday with the help of a guru mate 🤣🤣

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 2 місяці тому

      Wouldn't say he's a guru haha

  • @markslowen1411
    @markslowen1411 2 місяці тому

    A lot of the annoying features are for Arab gulf specs

  • @cloudysbogblog5394
    @cloudysbogblog5394 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for your vids mate. Off topic but what is the engine oil capacity with oil filter change when replacing? I've read of a website it's 6.8 liters can you confirm? Also what oil do you use specifically? Cheers

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 2 місяці тому

      Hey mate, thanks for the feedback. 6.8 sounds about right. My car is still under warranty so it still gets log book servicing. But I will change to Fuchs oil when I service it myself.

  • @cloudysbogblog5394
    @cloudysbogblog5394 2 місяці тому

    Hi mate cheers for the vid. If I'm using 98 fuel exclusively is the throttle body clean really necessary?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 2 місяці тому

      Absolutely. Pull your intake off and wipe a clean rag around in there, worth doing.

  • @jjwoody6532
    @jjwoody6532 2 місяці тому

    There is not a “massive” difference in the way these things run on 95 or 91. If fact the different it’s only slight with 91 and I can’t tell the difference on 95. Same with economy. On a recent trip with mine towing 3t I averaged the same on 95 and 98 and only slightly more when fill with 91. Great car.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 2 місяці тому

      Personally I notice a big difference between 98 and 91, fuel economy and power wise. Probably not so much between 95 and 91, if it works for you, keep doing so!

  • @markkuman4673
    @markkuman4673 2 місяці тому

    Negative comments go to hell. Y62 Is better than G Class

  • @shotfirer1972
    @shotfirer1972 2 місяці тому

    Flutter ain't a good thing ...

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Місяць тому

      It's not a good thing, it's a great thing.

  • @reececulver3606
    @reececulver3606 3 місяці тому

    Soo... any update on the cause of the range/fuel issue?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 2 місяці тому

      Was probably just a crook O2 sensor.

  • @Acklr
    @Acklr 3 місяці тому

    Hey mate, what's the oil grade for the front and rear diff?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      From the workshop manual it says: Rear Diff 75W-90. Front Diff 80W-90

  • @Mgtowfreedom
    @Mgtowfreedom 3 місяці тому

    love how you blacked out the badging and front grill ???, there's a reason why Nissan is selling a boat load of them

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Thanks mate. So true!

  • @shaneoneill2254
    @shaneoneill2254 3 місяці тому

    That's not plumb back

  • @shaneoneill2254
    @shaneoneill2254 3 місяці тому

    Need a weld breather as a plug welded first.

  • @shaneoneill2254
    @shaneoneill2254 3 місяці тому

    That's not clean nice work. And definitely not seal lines from breather

  • @shaneoneill2254
    @shaneoneill2254 3 місяці тому

    U want welded plugs for the braided lines, as when U have over 300kw they will pop off. So do it right the first time

  • @salesituitahi313
    @salesituitahi313 3 місяці тому

    Looks like im gonna have to order my bullbar pick it up as im living remote 8 hiurs away from Cairns. Do it myself as that way you learn on how to do it. Yes RESEARCH or ill just message yah here on UA-cam.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Is there a major town near you? Can typically get stuff delivered to your closest post office. But only if its economical for you! Always here if you need a hand.

  • @phonicfrog_
    @phonicfrog_ 3 місяці тому

    Didnt the TIL also lose rear screens?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Yes, they are gone.

  • @Sanedraned
    @Sanedraned 3 місяці тому

    I just randomly stumbled uppon this video, i had no clue what it was about, or what vehicles. Is it possible to add timestamps in the video about the different topics you talk about? Always good to see a insightfull look from someone that knows what they are talking about. Cheers from Europe, the blazing hot hatch territory

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Hey mate, appreciate the feedback. Can certainly do that. Thank you for having a watch!

  • @southerngentleman5321
    @southerngentleman5321 3 місяці тому

    well said, goes for all 4x4s mate, have a go yourself and find a reliable small business

  • @daveross692
    @daveross692 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for tips & knowledge. I have just bought 23 Warrior here in Townsville. Nice to know there is someone here with knowledge.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Awesome mate, appreciate the feedback. Hope you're enjoying your Warrior. Make sure you're apart of the Townsville Y62 group!

  • @ml7.372
    @ml7.372 3 місяці тому

    شكراً لك نآمل ترجمة مقاطعك للعربية

  • @jazzad7106
    @jazzad7106 3 місяці тому

    Good video mate with great tips.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Much appreciated mate!

  • @Kush-d7s
    @Kush-d7s 3 місяці тому

    What’s your opinion on the 2024 patrol warrior compared to a regular patrol?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Depends what you want to do with the car really. If you're towing a standard Patrol is the better option as you can't get a GVM upgrade with the Warrior. But if you're just using it as a bit of an all rounder and not towing anything too heavy, the Warrior is a good option. Ready to get into it from the factory.

    • @Kush-d7s
      @Kush-d7s 3 місяці тому

      @@WLD62 thanks for that. Will stick with the warrior then

  • @richardilsley8424
    @richardilsley8424 3 місяці тому

    Would u recommend buying a patrol warrior?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Depends what you're doing. If you are towing, probably not, can't get a GVM upgrade for them. For touring or 4WDing, they're a great option.

  • @lukewarm2075
    @lukewarm2075 3 місяці тому

    2024 premcar and Nissan have updated the head unit I reckon u could get an upgrade on the head unit 😊

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      Surely!

  • @knottymatt
    @knottymatt 4 місяці тому

    Condensus is 85w-140 from Patrol experts, from my understanding.

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 3 місяці тому

      The book says 75W 80. However many people with GU's reckon 85W 140 is the go.

  • @searching4x4campingfishing86
    @searching4x4campingfishing86 4 місяці тому

    Problem with 24 ti-l is the extra cost from 23 and the loss of 360 camera, rear screens and Bose stereo just to get a slightly better touch screen. Not worth it over a 23 either.

  • @hugh060
    @hugh060 4 місяці тому

    I'm looking at patrols but worried about fuel range. For a mixed use on the road but I do a lot of highway driving, what fuel range can I get out of the Patrol Y62?

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 4 місяці тому

      Hey mate. A question with lots of variables. Completely stock and driving it responsibly, you'll easily see the quoted fuel economy. When my car was stockish, I drove from QLD to Vic, over 2000kms. I stopped for fuel 3 times and that wasn't to fill the tank from empty, just to get it back to full. I was seeing 1200kms range and eventually got the economy down to the 10lph area. They are big, not particularity aerodynamic and heavy, with a 5.6l V8. They love long drives. With all my mods, I see 17.7lph around town, which is nearly 700kms to a tank. So, you'll see decent figures.

    • @hugh060
      @hugh060 4 місяці тому

      @@WLD62 thanks mate. Appreciate it.

  • @lukewarm2075
    @lukewarm2075 4 місяці тому

    Im very interested in the Y63😊

  • @lukewarm2075
    @lukewarm2075 4 місяці тому

    No way they will make people wait 3 years for new model i reckon worse case late next year😊

    • @WLD62
      @WLD62 4 місяці тому

      I wouldn't think so, surely hear something end of the year.