EvilApple567
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GH2 (X360): Salvation - 231,821 (1st Place/WR)
Don't really know what headspace I was in both playing this and editing the post discussion, only the first sustain (GY) of the UB (upper bound path) act would be necessary to get buffered/1st frame whammy on since the O would obviously continue from it. Regardless, the execution on that GY sustain is still awful and you still would need a frame perfect activation of the O without dropping any GY ticks. Way more possible now that I'm actually using my brain but still don't know how feasible it is, maybe someday. Also I have used the buffered whammy mechanic on another song so I know the mechanic is still in this port.
Anyway, this is imo the worst of the Xbox exclusives and outside of UB I don't really know what more can be done with it besides ticks (doubt 3rd/4th act doubles are possible for 232k on this path, but who knows). I think EHW (extended hit window) is pretty limited here due to how cramped the front ends are, especially since the following notes share the same frets. Pretty bad 1st act (-16 from around good iirc), but solid 2nd act made up a couple ticks and kept it from going too far south.
Scorehero rankings: www.scorehero.com/rankings.php?group=2&game=3&diff=4&song=551
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GH2 (X360): Dead! - 284,006 (1st Place/WR)
Переглядів 4439 годин тому
Really glad I was able to find a workaround for 284k, doubt it would've happened on the NI (Nearly Ideal) path. Kind of an awkward video to work around since I spent the majority of play time on that path where I got my first record, also there were some things I wanted to leave in from the post run discussion and the 284k epilogue wouldn't have made much sense without it in some areas. Tried t...
GH2 (X360): Possum Kingdom - 355,910 (1st Place/WR)
Переглядів 23814 годин тому
God this really sucked, particularly because of that utterly cruel tease of a run 10 minutes in that could've been it. Going frame by frame on that 3rd act back end, I easily had enough SP for the act but (along with not knowing exactly how much I had in the moment obv) didn't have any real frame of reference for the timing that early on. Usually I wouldn't push this hard for not even the next ...
GH2 (X360): Hush - 263,222 (1st Place/WR - Optimal?)
Переглядів 30519 годин тому
Doubt 1st act UB (upperbound path) is possible, but 2nd is a little more plausible. Regardless, getting that alongside the solo double (and especially with max EHW (extended hit window) fret trick glitch ticks) would be an absolute nightmare with all the whammy. Otherwise I'm pretty sure this is it, another on the 3rd/solo act seems unreasonable. Apparently the 3rd act had been gotten by Witwix...
GH2 (X360): Kicked to the Curb - 363,106 (1st Place/WR)
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4th act EHW (extended hit window) exclusive double, 5th act NI (nearly ideal path). Dropped a tick but there's at least ticks left on 3rd act if not another double, otherwise there's probably also a couple ticks on 1st act NI. Didn't try 1st UB, could be a lot left here overall, but still satisfied with 363k especially since it came so easy for a much needed change. One of the better Xbox exclu...
GH2 (X360): Stop - 334,724 (1st Place/WR) + Misirlou - 378,570 (Optimal)
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Finally getting rid of that ugly global rank due to inaccurate adjusted metric. Can't provide any detailed TAS analysis due to Xbox (afaik) but didn't get very close fishing for 1st UB. May be just possible with perfect buffered whammy on 2nd phrase along with EHW, but not interested in the slightest in killing myself over it especially since it wouldn't even get to 335k. Not gonna speculate ov...
GH2 (X360): Drink Up - 206,602 (1st Place/WR)
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Really cool I was able to find a way to tackle the Xbox version, especially while using my SG. Thanks Sleeper for the product shout, likely wouldn't have come across it otherwise. Guess I should link it here as well: www.etsy.com/listing/1397089947/blue-indigo-v4-playstation-2-guitar?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details Anyway, ticks weren't actually all that bad (at least relatively)...
GH2 (PS2): Jordan - 501,990 (Former 1st Place/WR) [64/64 1st Place/WRs - No Lag Glitch]
Переглядів 1,5 тис.14 днів тому
Not even sure what to say about this one. Truly can't believe I was able to pull off all 64 1st places simultaneously (61 untied - Misirlou, Elephant Bones, X-Stream), even with the asterisks of no lag glitch and being the first to really abuse EHW on many songs. Overcoming all the jank and oddities in songs like Trogdor and Cherry Pie really makes this special to me, I put so much of myself in...
GH2 (PS2): Bad Reputation - 249,354 (1st Place/WR) + Girlfriend - 244,899 (1st Place/WR)
Переглядів 18614 днів тому
Neither of these deserved their own upload, or probably even a public upload in general, but what the hell they took long enough and were a pain in the ass so even though there's no more squeezes on them and they're just tick grinds you can at least watch me suffer for half an hour if you want. Bad Reputation has to be nearing the limit, but I don't feel comfortable making any assumptions about...
GH2 (PS2): Arterial Black - 285,156 (1st Place/WR)
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2nd act UB, really bad otherwise. Squeeze is incredibly hard, up there with Search and Destroy act 1 (same frame data & whammies) and is later in the song giving you less experience overall with it. Since you need absolutely perfect whammy, it makes act 1 somehow even worse (though front end is at least slightly alleviated by EHW fret trick) and acts 3/4 (especially 4) are just brutal due to ne...
GH2 (PS2): One for the Road - 476,148 (1st Place/WR)
Переглядів 14721 день тому
Glad I finally got around to this, hated having to settle for ticks first time around. Probably still ~400 more between altered 1st (shown before run) and likely 3rd double (perhaps more possible moving front end back to YB to end on sequential strums instead of hopo into strum, wish I'd have though of that before but w/e), but regardless just glad to have picked up 476. Still think this is one...
GH2 (PS2): Last Child - 252,042 (1st Place/WR)
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Somehow this was the run to get 252k. First time hitting act 1 since my last record 8 months ago, superfluous 2nd act whammy should've screwed 3rd act but somehow still got it, didn't choke the awkward 4th act execution while still getting decent ticks (mostly just muscle memory), and everything about the 5th act was just a rollercoaster. Forgot to even whammy first phrase properly, first susta...
GH2 (PS2): Surrender - 317,872 (1st Place/WR)
Переглядів 31928 днів тому
The Surrender flag (no pun intended) has been reclaimed for PS2, though many casualties were sustained. Glad I was able to finally get some closure on this, the reason those first two clips look different is because they were captured on my older card (HD PVR 1212) back in February. My score was actually that 317,664 for the last 7-8 months but I never posted it since I obviously wanted better,...
GH2 (PS2): Free Bird - 638,738 (1st Place/WR) [GH2 1st Place Overall]
Переглядів 42228 днів тому
Well, here we are. With this I completed my main goal of at least holding the record at some point for every no lag glitch score in GH2 (PS2), and as a bonus have 1st place overall. Pretty crazy/unfortunate this is afaik almost the highest score on video by 2k (and likely would've been without the solo H/I act flop), somehow not a single of the twelve 637k scores were ever recorded/uploaded. An...
GH2 (PS2 PAL): Cherry Pie - 200,233 (1st Place/WR)
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Another score spoiled on SH unfortunately (even though I did what I could to hide it from the home page by posting it before another score), but like Trog had to get caught up chronologically with uploads. So much went into this, really a bizarre feeling to have put these mechanic findings into practice after all this time and not only pull off a 1st place on this song, but the first 200k, and ...
GH2 (PS2 PAL): Trogdor - 208,744 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2 PAL): Trogdor - 208,744 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Parasite - 241,438 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Parasite - 241,438 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Gemini - 318,552 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Gemini - 318,552 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Collide - 275,422 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Collide - 275,422 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Mother - 267,282 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Mother - 267,282 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Laughtrack - 243,074 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Laughtrack - 243,074 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Search and Destroy - 333,030 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Search and Destroy - 333,030 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): War Pigs - 396,616 (1st Place/WR) + Cherry Pie - 194,449 (2nd Place - Tied)
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GH2 (PS2): War Pigs - 396,616 (1st Place/WR) Cherry Pie - 194,449 (2nd Place - Tied)
GH2 (PS2): Who Was In My Room Last Night? - 372,043 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Who Was In My Room Last Night? - 372,043 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Them Bones - 283,506 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Them Bones - 283,506 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Fall of Pangea - 513,661 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Fall of Pangea - 513,661 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): Mr. Fix It - 223,661 (1st Place/WR - No Lag Glitch)
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GH2 (PS2): Mr. Fix It - 223,661 (1st Place/WR - No Lag Glitch)
GH2 (PS2): Red Lottery - 332,891 (1st Place/WR - No Lag Glitch)
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GH2 (PS2): Red Lottery - 332,891 (1st Place/WR - No Lag Glitch)
GH2 (PS2): Jessica - 345,542 (1st Place/WR)
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GH2 (PS2): Jessica - 345,542 (1st Place/WR)
GH2 (PS2): John The Fisherman - 206,304 (1st Place/WR - No Lag Glitch)
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GH2 (PS2): John The Fisherman - 206,304 (1st Place/WR - No Lag Glitch)

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @psychonawht2774
    @psychonawht2774 22 години тому

    GH2 2 will always be my fave. Great run

  • @Jilde0616
    @Jilde0616 День тому

    This path sucks so god damn much to execute

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 День тому

      Not too fun, but at least if you can get that RB chord front end down it's pretty straight forward past act 1.

    • @Jilde0616
      @Jilde0616 День тому

      @EvilApple567 true. Did you ever hit/test the half bar act?

  • @GotDamBoi
    @GotDamBoi 2 дні тому

    What you've done with gh2 is legitimately the most impressive thing in guitar hero history. I'm in absolute awe. Incredible dedication and persistence. Would love to see you try squeezing gh1. I think you could give kev a run for his money + there is no way to abuse video lag in gh1 (I can't stand people that abuse lag) I also apologize for ranting at you a few months ago regarding the Madhouse/Lemon Meringue thing. I used to have battles squeezing against him back in the day and he was actually insane so I never questioned his reputation at all. Glad that you eventually beat that score. - suhdude024 on scorehero

  • @johnkelleher1465
    @johnkelleher1465 4 дні тому

    Wow 1st place on every GH2 song, wild achievement man.. Hope you're doin well! -GuitaRHerODudE

  • @kevinsm2039
    @kevinsm2039 4 дні тому

    Good shi I enjoyed it

  • @Jilde0616
    @Jilde0616 5 днів тому

    Good job! I tried going for this a few months ago and hit both acts: 1st: ua-cam.com/video/apeeEb3SxxY/v-deo.htmlsi=Jx_dIKoutvZ8fbGn 2nd: ua-cam.com/video/Gc4NuxusI6k/v-deo.htmlsi=ATGUW-U9EJGbyGr1 Couldn't get both of them in the same run though, and now I haven't really had the time to play since my last video really. Really cool seeing a 355.9xx score on this.

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 4 дні тому

      I see we had the same idea about the 1st act (makes sense), your 2nd act change was definitely interesting though lol

    • @Jilde0616
      @Jilde0616 4 дні тому

      @@EvilApple567 It just "felt" easier for me that way. You know how it is haha

  • @TheXxTanmanxX
    @TheXxTanmanxX 6 днів тому

    Are you gonna be working on GH2 DLC after these songs?

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 4 дні тому

      Only have 2 packs, but yeah might as well. Don't have any immediate plans for RGH, from the one GH1 pack I have squeezing those songs isn't very interesting due to the abundance of SP.

  • @TJGAMINGSCOTLAND
    @TJGAMINGSCOTLAND 7 днів тому

    You are a rock god ❤🤘You didn’t just kick the bucket.. you crushed it!!! Wooo!!! Very happy for you

  • @KyleHUNK
    @KyleHUNK 8 днів тому

    That 3rd squeeze is sexy :D

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 7 днів тому

      YT hid your comment from the naughty language lmao, this algorithm would've never survived the late 2000's era of GH commenting.

  • @BenAck912
    @BenAck912 8 днів тому

    4:35 10/10 joke.

  • @JadonGamer39
    @JadonGamer39 8 днів тому

    0:50 how? :(

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 8 днів тому

      Those are the EHW (extended hit window) fret trick glitch ticks mentioned in the description discovered by Jilde near the beginning of this year (on this song coincidentally). What you're essentially doing is tricking the game into completing the sustain early on a different fret by abusing the rather jank EHW mechanics. The execution for it is to strum on the sustain (within the following note's hit window) and input that note while still holding the sustain's fret, which is obviously impossible under normal circumstances. The earlier and more precise you perform this, the more glitch ticks you earn obviously. Max EHW fret trick glitch ticks require both a frame perfect strum like regular glitch ticks, but also a frame perfect fret of the following note on the next frame which makes them significantly harder to optimize.

  • @MaverickNE
    @MaverickNE 8 днів тому

    Gj

  • @espen6722
    @espen6722 9 днів тому

    Congrats on the incredible accomplishment, and thank you for taking the time to record and edit the videos for all of us to watch. I hope you at some point end up uploading the video for the Thunderhorse 1st as well. I watched xbillax's score in person so I'd love to see your run as well.

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 8 днів тому

      Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave thoughtful comments. TH will be uploaded, but since I pretty much always upload chronologically (post run breakdowns often don't make sense otherwise making references to other/recent runs that haven't been posted) it will be a bit.

  • @TheXxTanmanxX
    @TheXxTanmanxX 10 днів тому

    iirc i only used lag on the UB act and none of the ticking acts so that score was pretty bad to begin with.. if only i put more effort like i did with monkey wrench optimal and yes we can

    • @TheXxTanmanxX
      @TheXxTanmanxX 10 днів тому

      im actually not sure i mightve used it for the ticking acts its been so long ago lol

  • @josh_uz1520
    @josh_uz1520 10 днів тому

    Kicked the old score to the curb

  • @kevinsm2039
    @kevinsm2039 10 днів тому

    Pro!!!!!

  • @nicco77rams
    @nicco77rams 10 днів тому

    absolutely incredible holy hell

  • @UltraStarM
    @UltraStarM 10 днів тому

    Great X360 exclusive.

  • @Birdman5504
    @Birdman5504 12 днів тому

    For Misirlou, Xbox chart has 1 less note than PS2 chart (1221 vs 1222), and that change is at the very end of the song.

  • @sleeper_wave
    @sleeper_wave 12 днів тому

    If Xbox strumming is actually a myth then that’s the greatest Mandela effect in GH history. What I found was that for songs like Six and Misirlou, it felt about the same in difficulty on both platform if the fast strumming section stayed on the same fret (beginning of gtr break 1). It was changing frets that felt totally different on Xbox than PS2, almost as if my fret changes needed to be more precise. If I had to take a guess it could be because the amount of buffer you get between a strum and a fret is lower than PS2’s, though it could also be a byproduct of the improved HOPOs and the game registering the unforced HOPO before a strum of the same fret, causing an overstrum. I am prepared to admit that it’s just because the hit window is farther back and feels different than what we’re used to though lol.

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 12 днів тому

      Honestly I'm hesitant to believe any differences exist in the engines besides removal of the hopo glitch, they feel pretty much identical to me across the board. As long as we can't take Xbox frame by frame (or better yet view the source code for those so inclined) it's all speculation. I had no issues with Misirlou (aside from the intro I suck at regardless), Six, or BatH. EHW also seems to work the exact same (which is essentially the "buffer" you're referring to) so I'm kind of at a loss on where this even started besides the rather obvious notion that people early on most likely played Xbox on an HDTV and PS2 on CRT. Idk where the improved hopo claim came from either (or whether this is even true on 80's), GH2's hopo engine is pretty straight forward (if you fret within the hit window and don't ascending ghost it works afaik, many hours in TAS to back this up) so unless the timing windows are increased (again, doubtful from my experience in many songs and lack of Xbox dominated scores in songs with tight hopo acts) or they modified how hopos interact/eat your strum inputs (most plausible theory) I don't see how that could be possible. Even the hit window placement tbh I don't see. If anything when I first transitioned over I was hitting things too late, though as I went over in Drink Up I believe that was due to Xbox's display output being slightly larger placing the strikeline closer to the bottom of the screen, or perhaps the adapter causing a frame of input delay. I don't mean to discount or disregard your experience, I appreciate you sharing it, these are just my honest opinionated responses atm.

    • @sleeper_wave
      @sleeper_wave 11 днів тому

      @@EvilApple567 I don’t think you’re discounting my experience at all. I think conversations like this help make sense of engine “phenomenons”, especially since you have many hours banked in TAS and have the scores to back up your claims. At the end of the day it’s all we have until the source code leaks. I’ve been waiting with bated breath for this to happen with GH1 to make sense of its inconsistent HOPO logic.

  • @kevinsm2039
    @kevinsm2039 12 днів тому

    👌🏻

  • @richardray6258
    @richardray6258 13 днів тому

    Seeing these runs are crazy to me, because even though I've beaten the Guitar Hero games, I couldn't imagine getting scores like this. Hell, getting an FC on a Tier 1 song is barely possible for me.

  • @ieasnefmncz
    @ieasnefmncz 13 днів тому

    Audio out of sync, NO.

  • @anthixious
    @anthixious 13 днів тому

    No idea this was even happening, somehow got this in my recommendations, congratulations on the 64/64 sweep. 🥳

  • @GotDamBoi
    @GotDamBoi 14 днів тому

    the way you hold ticks makes me hard

  • @Apasher17
    @Apasher17 14 днів тому

    I respect the 480i Xbox 360 footage

  • @ianhawke8397
    @ianhawke8397 14 днів тому

    where did all of your scores go on score hero?

    • @nidecker1
      @nidecker1 14 днів тому

      This is the 360 version, click on the ps2 tab and you'll see all his other scores

  • @CyanCrayonGH
    @CyanCrayonGH 14 днів тому

    The video quality is so good bro, can’t wait to see you go through this version (idk if you’re doing every song or just the exclusives/songs with different charts)

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 14 днів тому

      Just the exclusives, song(s) with bad "adjusted" metrics on SH (afaik just Stop, all others like Jessica, Heart-Shaped Box, and Monkey Wrench are direct conversions and exceptions like X-Stream have no functional differences), and the 6 DLC I have. I can't tell if people are being sarcastic about the SD quality lmao, I have an elgato that I used for FSFC stuff but still want to play this on CRT for multiple reasons.

  • @NicheNick2003
    @NicheNick2003 14 днів тому

    Which of the 2 versions do you prefer playing all things equal?

    • @EvilApple567
      @EvilApple567 14 днів тому

      From everything I've done so far, Xbox seems superior in every way. The load times alone make a big difference, menuing is super quick in general (making going in and out of practice less of a pain). No hopo glitch and extra content (most of which are better than many base tracks) are appreciated, also I'm pretty sure "Xbox strumming" is just a myth so from a gameplay perspective I can't see any real faults comparatively. The increased visual fidelity is imo a blessing and curse though, the fretboard/UI elements look much better, but I find some of the characters like Axel didn't upscale all that well (and that's just in standard definition) giving off a bit of uncanny with their "smoothness".

  • @sleeper_wave
    @sleeper_wave 14 днів тому

    I saw your Thunderhorse score the other day and assumed you picked up the adapter. So excited to see you dominate this port!

  • @josh_uz1520
    @josh_uz1520 14 днів тому

    I dig the interlaced vid

  • @droyal1994
    @droyal1994 14 днів тому

    This adapter is so incredible, I’ve been using it since the V3 (I also have a v4 for backup) using a SG is so perfect on Xbox

  • @Azodrak
    @Azodrak 14 днів тому

    Xbox arc 👀?

  • @madamegasket9095
    @madamegasket9095 14 днів тому

    Holy shit.

  • @KiraSore
    @KiraSore 15 днів тому

    🐐🐐🐐

  • @soyadesu
    @soyadesu 15 днів тому

    absolutely unreal, history <3

  • @jdsmitty325
    @jdsmitty325 15 днів тому

    What in the flying freaking fuck

  • @Lurkmode712
    @Lurkmode712 15 днів тому

    Old school SHer here. Squeezing is more entertaining and impressive to me than most of the crazy customs. Well freaking done on this accomplishment. Amazing to see scores like this in 2024. 🎉

  • @EmilForsberg_GRYBO
    @EmilForsberg_GRYBO 15 днів тому

    And here i am, still not being able to beat this song on expert, only song in the damn series i haven't been to get through without failing on

  • @Rocketmanba04
    @Rocketmanba04 15 днів тому

    The mad lad did it

  • @Azodrak
    @Azodrak 15 днів тому

    The Guitar HERO II champ

  • @GiometriQ
    @GiometriQ 15 днів тому

    wtf

  • @Glitchgod0
    @Glitchgod0 15 днів тому

    This is mental, 64/64 is so crazy

  • @Genjink
    @Genjink 16 днів тому

    Gnarly shit dude is an understatement for this lmao hell yeah man

  • @TheXxTanmanxX
    @TheXxTanmanxX 16 днів тому

    Great job!! You GOTTA go for 502k though would be sick probably the only person capable of getting it

  • @fjollesmoll
    @fjollesmoll 16 днів тому

    Incredible job, and good job on Thunderhorse 229.9k is crazy.

  • @psychonawht2774
    @psychonawht2774 16 днів тому

    TROGDOOOOOOORRRRRR! That last note made me cringe so hard I felt your pain

  • @psychonawht2774
    @psychonawht2774 16 днів тому

    Damn. I thought I was good. My score is like half that.. Kudos man. I love these vids

  • @rhobinnhartwell6649
    @rhobinnhartwell6649 16 днів тому

    I ended up getting a real guitar once I started 100% expert level.

  • @MarinoGaming
    @MarinoGaming 16 днів тому

    This was both very satisfying to watch and listen to. Wow congrats!!