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Edison Motors
Приєднався 9 кві 2010
Videos from our adventures at Edison Motors
Lithium Ion Batteries
PMSM motors
ACIM motors
Three phase power
Tesla Stuff!
Lithium Ion Batteries
PMSM motors
ACIM motors
Three phase power
Tesla Stuff!
Small Tesla Drive Unit setup for custom EV conversion
Small Tesla Drive Unit setup for custom EV conversion
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Відео
5.4kWh battery assembly, UL listed, f/ small EV's off grid, marine, etc.
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5.4kWh battery assembly, UL listed, f/ small EV's off grid, marine, etc.
Machining Tesla Battery Modules, Again! 1
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Modifying modules so they can be converted for 48V applications. These will be going into NEMA 4 enclosures, fully sealed and will be fully UL certified. Battery management system, contactors and fuses will also be in the enclosures. I heard someone in Europe copied our design. Tsk Tsk :-D
Inside of a Transit Connect Electric Battery Pack
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Inside of a Transit Connect Electric Battery Pack
Machining Tesla Battery Modules, Again! 2
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Modifying modules so they can be converted for 48V applications. These will be going into NEMA 4 enclosures, fully sealed and will be fully UL certified. Battery management system, contactors and fuses will also be in the enclosures. I heard someone in Europe copied our design. Tsk Tsk :-D
Fabricating new Tesla Small Drive Unit Mount for the Big Dyno
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We had the motor mounted upside down. Had to fab a new plate to mount the motor in the factory orientation so the oiling of the rotor bearings work properly.
Model S Large DU Rotor Shaft
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We bent a rotor shaft of the large drive unit when pressing a part on for a direct drive conversion. This video shows what it looks like
New Tesla Cell holders and case prototype
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New Tesla Cell holders and case prototype
Tesla Motor Controller - TESLA inverter hacked - High Efficiency Drive Unit - Update #5
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Tesla Motor Controller - TESLA inverter hacked - High Efficiency Drive Unit - Update #5
Test #4 update - Tesla Model S high efficiency drive unit control
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Test #4 update - Tesla Model S high efficiency drive unit control
Test #3 update - Tesla Model S high efficiency drive unit control
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Test #3 update - Tesla Model S high efficiency drive unit control
Early Test #2 with 33V - Tesla Model S Motor Control
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Early Test #2 with 33V - Tesla Model S Motor Control
1st test with 33V and random guesses for control loop constants
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1st test with 33V and random guesses for control loop constants
12s converted model S module busbar testing
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12s converted model S module busbar testing
Tesla Model S modules converted to 12s (prototype)
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Tesla Model S modules converted to 12s (prototype)
Ebike Battery made from Model S cells 36V 16Ah - Checking initial cell balance
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Ebike Battery made from Model S cells 36V 16Ah - Checking initial cell balance
Tesla Model S Battery (Module) Dead Shorted
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Tesla Model S Battery (Module) Dead Shorted
Is there a Nm I have to use on this loose bolt? I have a problem that the car loosing all power to the wheel. the turtle, wrench and the red triangel comes up in the display. I have to turn the car off whit the key, wait for a minute, and then it starts up agin. but can maybe drive for 2 meter, 200 meter, 2 miles or more. And then it happends agian. then I have to turn the car off again whit the key. Do you know how too fix this problem?
Bro u r so rude
How did this project work long term! I'm very interested in trying something similar.
Are you using supercapacitors the blue one?
ilike this vedio but where is forward
I’m scared of shorting 18650 packs and causing just enough of an over discharge to cause them to back charge and 💥, because batteries have everything they need too go 💥. This man…. I envy you.
The problem now is how do you solder or spot weld or whatever new fuse is on to make the battery good again, I did this by accident on one module and now have a perfectly good module with many blownfuses,
Interesting choice using a dspic. Are you using Lebowski codebase?
thst model s small rear drive unit
Hi there ! Since last week i do own such a transit connect electric, too ! Can You please help me out with some issues i got starting/activating it ? Please do contact me. Thanks a lot ! Bye
How can I get in touch with Edison motors for service. where is Edison motors?
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Hey Eddy
Hello I have akso Tesla electric engine. Can you help me to how i connect the cable to start the engine same as you?
Does Edison have a web site?
I haven't kept it up to date. edisonmotors.net
Here is a random question has anyone ever worked out/documented the CAN bus communication for those batteries?
Not that I know of.
Is this true that the range after a full charge was only about 56 miles?
It was almost 40kwh, you could def get a bit more then that.
Not many people talk/make videos about this Ford EV ....question for you.. can you add batteries(range) to these vehicles ?
Yeah. When I had it running on one pack, I manually paralleled the 2nd pack and it didnt complain much. you could just parallel additional cells.
@@TheLiddokun Im thinking of buying one of these to replace my ICE Transit Connect. My interest is to upgrade the batteries to double to range. Do you think its worth it, if I have no skills to work on it myself? I planned on taking it to an EV specialist in my area of Dallas TX. Maybe even retrofit a nissan leaf battery pack replacement if thats even possible. My main concern is that the company that made this is long out of business.
Use shakeproof washers in future!!!
Everything around it becomes its fuse.
Mili kaha
Cool! What kind of batteries are those?
18650 cells from a 2014 Model S
Good
Which parameter is controlled to control the speed of motor
I think that wire evaporated
Nice!
Nice Video, just wondering were to get the Azure Dynamics software to read the codes and status of the my Transit. Does anyone know? Thanks
Picard Industries There’s a guy that sells the software on eBay including the adapter.
:56 it's Alive! 😱
Tesla Small Drive Unit Is Used of VVVF+GTO Inverter
well it's most likely IGBT or something else most of the train manufactures started to ditch GTO inverter systems about 20 years ago which compared to most of the Tesla cars were manufactured after 2010 when GTO were mostly gone for sure GTO do have some technical problems, and IGBT is way more power efficient
They are IGBT's
hell yeaahhh.... awesome work mate.. Tesla Drivetrain POWEEEEEERRRRR
Would it be possible to cut a 24 volt Tesla module 12-volt halves?
these guys are blowing these things up an I badly wanted them.. Wear can I get them.
Thats tesla p85D front motor? Can you give more details about how you are running the thing? Where you got the controller from?
Hey Tommmis Euf., did you get your answer on this? I would also like to know.
Would you like to share the .STL files? Thats is a nice project, I would love to experiment myself
Hello, I am interested in information about the bond wires. Can you tell from which material these are and measure the diameter? thanks in advance
Thanks for this video! It feels good to see that it really works!
Hi, please ,,,explain more about the tesla induction motor .... tnks..
I want my bird
this is the best way to remove the cells? are all the cells also glued with epoxy?
Are you planning to scale up that prototype for more cells please?
Yep. This is just a quick concept for 7s6p. Can do up to 25s25p or so..... at least.
hello , i have a question i am working on the same similiar project and what i have is two inverters one for a pruis 01 and also a 06 camry hybrid , i also have a motor of a toyota highlander 07 electric , and i was wondering how much would it cost for you to make any of those two work so i can put on my tacoma , i will handle shipping and what you would charge me my email is Montro3@yahoo.complease contact me back thank you
The toyota inverters are unique in terms of they use a DC/DC boost converter (bidirectional) before the inverter stage @ 800V from a lower voltage battery. I have not had my hands on one and I am not sure how the DC/DC stage is integrated or controlled. I am interested in them though to add 480V three phase power to a 350V EV system and the toyota setup would be a nice arrangement. I would need one in my hands to determine if I can easily hack it ... depending on any control requirements for the boost stage.
Great work! Do you have FOC with separate D and Q currents? Didn't you try "fixed slip speed" scalar control algoryth? It's rather workable! Do you plan to make and publish photos of busses and IGBTs of new inverter on your blog? It's very interesting for power engineers like me. Thanks!
Thx for the question! Yes it is FOC with separate Id and Iq. I have never heard of "fixed" slip speed type control. We use a type of FOC called indirect FOC, whereas the slip speed is calculated by the motor currents and the motor parameters in real time. This is a "feedforward" method of control which does not require feedback - such as a in a sensorless algorithm. This is more accurate and better response, assuming we are doing our calculations right of course. It is called "indirect" because the rotor flux position is not measured such as in some sensorless algorithms for ACIM (or a PMAC with an encoder), it is calculated and predicted from the rotor speed (from the encoder) and the calculated slip speed (which is based on motor currents and current motor parameters).
Well I think Tesla uses the same algorithm. Main challenge is to select the right flux for every speed and torque to reach best effectivity. Constant slip speed is very simple but powerfull scalar algorithm. Inverter always outputs frequency propornional to RPM plus slip speed. But voltage is varied by PID for speed to reach target RPMs. Slip speed itself is selected to be so that motor gives maximum torque at fixed stator current, it's simple experiment to do with blocked rotor. At this frequency inductive and active resistances in rotor are equal and current and torque is maximized. Keeping slip speed the same at all RPMs and torques lets you easily control ACIM in rather good way. Not very far from MTPA, as I read. Several years ago I made CNC spindle inverter with such algorithm. Now days I develop PMSM invertors and I'm fery interested in insides of new tesla inverter visible on your videos.
Cool. Yeah, you can learn a lot about the motor from a locked rotor test. Actually, selecting the correct flux is not really important. Nor is selecting the torque for an EV. First the torque.. well that is selected by the driver with their foot.. so that's not something one needs to optimize for an EV :-) In terms of selecting optimal flux, this is of much lesser importance then ensuring your slip speed calculation (and thus your rotor flux position) is accurate. A quick rule of thumb for selecting flux is to set Id = Iq. That way rotor flux is equal to stator flux (assumimg equal inductance), and you will get good torque per amp. This will offer slower response for some motors But the Tesla motor has a very low rotor time constant so it is not an issue for an EV. By far the most important aspect is ensuring your rotor flux position is accurate. It is also the most difficult aspect.
Yeah, in my controllers for PMSMs I measure the rotor position very precisely with complicated analog encoder and algorythm, a little eroor in radians leads to many hundred amps different in currents. I hoped in ACIMs such a pricision is not needed, because you need to know exactly only the speed, not angle. But it seems not. One more question about tesla inverter, is it from front axle? And what about it's photos?..... May you send me smth via e-mail? I would very appreciate this! Also you can wath videos of my creation on my channel, that's electric motorcyles, ATV and even glider. Thanks!
Yeah, flux position in ACIM is no less important then PMSM. Slip just makes it more difficult. You can go to the website and find my email there and we can talk. edisonmotors.net
Do you have a email, website or contact info would like to learn more how you accomplished this!!
Sure, we will be selling drive units with our controller integrated. I am also considering offering a core exchange service where one sends their invert-er if they already have a drive unit and we send back a hacked inverter with a user manual. edisonmotors.net
The funny clicking sounds coming from the motor is the pump running dry.
This was supposed to be private :O
How did you get the cells 'free' from the pack?
salvage teslas you can get for dirt cheap is one way
Is this the Model S motor? What is the stator slot and rotor bar counts? Their patent says 60 stator slots and 76 rotor bars, but I only count 48 stator slots here. Also, what are the physical dimensions of the stator core?
And also the rotor construction...
Coz the power depends how construction and scheme is made(rotor)
What was the starting voltage? 24?