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Forgot to mention the G-line thats due to be out this month

Really interesting to see your design approach. I would have mesh on both sides just to give you flexibility of use. I would also consider additional loops in case you need to quickly strap/attach something to the outside (when getting food or water bottles from local shops and not for the main part of the ride).

For a non Brompton owner who is interested in what the Brompton models are then this is a brilliant video. I now feel I know enough to start looking at the bikes out there. Thanks for explaining the ranges and what they stand for but please sit down when you are talking, your constant swaying made me feel seasick and detracted from an otherwise brilliant video.

You’re the third UA-camr over seen with issues of cracking welds on the Titanium. That’s pretty insane on such an expensive bicycle. I’ll stick with trusty steel.

Please let us know how TPU tubes evolve in the future!

Trying my darndest not to make a butt joke based on the title haha... I'll save your butt any day! Sorry. In all seriousness, been enjoying your videos a lot. I only got my first 6 speed C-Line about a month back and I've been loving it. Seen so much more of the east coast of Scotland because of it. I'll look forward to my continued mid-life crisis as I throw more money and upgrades to get myself further and further. And get a firmer butt!

Seems the new p line and t line have many reliability issues you don't see on the old c line 6 speeds

Where do you live...... in the rainforrest? 🤔 My Brompton workshop fine, eventuell when i don't use it for months (Winter time)

No... soon Brompton will recalled P nxt 😅

HAHA They dont call it a P Line for not reason. P is the Problems!!! HAHAHA

When Bromptons were first sold the gearing options were 3 or 5. Imagine the simplicity of such a retail experience 🥰

Hey Dave, I am thinking of getting new wheels but was wondering if the parts you link to would be compliant with my C line rear rack? I know you have a P line but they use diffent racks so do the hex bolts you link to only work with P line rack set ups?

This was one of my first upgrades. Totally worth it.

Appreciate your honest feedback❤❤

How does doing your own service work invalidate your warranty? It's not an aircraft, it's s bike. Changing brake pads, seats, grips, tires, chains, etc. is all part of owning a bike.

What’s the fuss? Don’t you just buy the cheaper Brompton, get an upgrade kit replacing rear triangle, fork and rims/ wheel and change gear set to Shimano external or 11 speed internal, add disk brakes hydraulic and add a dual chain ring with or without derailleurs. You get a better lighter bike. Save the replaced parts or sell to minimize costs you’ll be converting these to carbon.

I wondered if the weight of the rim (205g) should more be compared to the Brompton rims only (all ranging 300g - 320g) and not the full wheel set which would include the spokes etc. ?

Love the channel but can you please stand still 🙈.

Thank you for the video I have just added 80 mm wheels to my P line I used the link you have for the screws. MY QUESTION IS DO YOU THINK THE screws might be a little bit short? I AN USING two washers on each screw on either side of the bearings. The washers that I chose are very thin. Thank you in advance for your opinion.

I've been following Bromton channels for years. Thought they were great bikes. BUT--the more I watched, the more parts and frame failures I witnessed. I am convinced they are not what they claim to be, that being, quality, strong, durable. I won't ever buy one.

it seems to me its for touring where some transit might be mixed in on tour, or for living in a hilly area. in flat places the 6 speed is plenty

Awesome Video, great work. Would you need a rear rack for this upgrade and if so, what options would you suggest?

Great review! Makes me want to pull the trigger on a P Line. I’m just currently holding off for this G Line announcement Sept/October.

17:32 i had a problem keeping my gears indexed for a few weeks, then i committed to re-indexing them and locktiting the clamp screw on the derailleur -- and I havent had to adjust them in two months. There are multiple posts about with in r/brompton but most of them get resolved with proper torq specs and a bit of locktite

I had a 3 speed C line for 4 years before I past it down to my daughter. Served me well as a tucker. Fit right in the footwell of my passenger seat. If I were to buy another it would be a 6 speed. My only beef with Brompton is the proprietary parts unfamiliar with most bicycle mechanics. Other than that, great product.

I wish Bromptons have a frame-only DIY offering. I’ve never been satisfied with the stock drivetrains or the plastic fantastic shifters. I converted my Superlight to an external 5 speed w/ H&H 7 speed derailleur. Throwing a Shimano 105 CS-HG700 cassette and a HG DuraAce chain made the shifting so smooth with a non-indexed friction shifter.

6 months to get the gears indexed plus the lacklustre but expensive and hassle ridden service is a deal breaker for me. I was considering a Brompton as it’s a premium product but no longer.

$600 Zizzo forte holds up better than your p line but i only have 1500ish miles on it.I'd like to try a brompton one day.

I waded in and bought a P line on EBay a month ago. It is pretty much new, yet I paid 70% of the retail price - yep, I’ve had it away with the fairies, it is a peach. The only discernible downside is: I wish I’d done it earlier! My notable faults have been a slipping seat post, which I sorted quickly and the usual gear reindexing. A1 other than that. I gave it a service myself using my old big blue book. It now feels like Pegasus, I love it. 👍🏻

Help!!! Brompton users - will the GP3 (with slightly longer grip ends/horns…) fit the Brompton fold in respect of the ‘S’ straight handle bar?

Honest review from an experienced cyclist is always welcome.👍

Great video and I agree with the color - I am so jealous. I have a flame laqueur C-Line and these would make a great pair. I am more into sturdiness, and make my bike heavier these days (just got beefy folding pedals). One thing I have to say though. The perfect cockpit is not the GP2 - It's GP1s in combination with SQLabs inner bar ends. I run this setup on two bromptons - one has an awesome wider John Kuosac bar with back sweep. You can reach the brakes when you are on the "hoods" I am soo happy. The perfect cockpit for me anyways

My old, 2019, 6 speed Superlight has now a Selle Italia, slightly padded, superlight carbon saddle and a titanium, standard shape, black seat post. I had a Carbon Post but it wasn't equaI diameter along its length, so I changed it again. I have also changed much of my standard type brakes to quite similar looking titanium parts. But I have changed the clamps on my mudguards to Carbon and Alu, as they are definitely made from "Heavy Metal" from the Factory, and it gives a difference! On the other hand I have added a Dutch: "Bromptonian" Clamp to the mudguards end, not to damage it during folds or handling! "Bromptonian" specializes in repair- and strengthening parts for a Brompton, as he also makes a terrain model, triple folder for heavy duty use (Without any connection to British Brompton!). As I don't use my bike that much I have kept the standard folding pedal (not to be lost!) but with a titanium center bolt. I don't like to be able to loose a pedal as I did at a time with the - one bolt for the folding hinge in the growth of a wood (I now has nice black wheels with a security bolt in the end, preventing they are to be taken out and - lost, as the original models may easily be totally removed)! On the other hand, my bike is a Brompton so I have two grips made from - leather with a security ring in each end, and a nice "Brompton" printed on them, with large friendly letters, as in "The Hitchhikers Guide" (Don't Panic!). Finn. Denmark

I purchased a P line last week. I just got an email from my local Brompton dealer that they noticed a minor paint blemish on the handlebar stem, reached out to Brompton, and a new stem is on the way. I’m impressed! p.s. My K2 booster skate wheels and parts are on order. Thanks for the in-depth upgrade video!

I have the same bike I upgraded it to the 12 speed it's amazing what a difference!!!

0:42 did you speak to the cyclist with the guitar? I wonder what his story was!

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Great service from Brompton. Glad this was resolved quickly. Brilliant and fair result mate.👍

T line also have some case of rear triangle wedding fail. The location was the triangle near the rear spindle

They need to check all the fitments of all the moving parts to work out why it failed The welds haven't failed it failed on the Heat zone, its a material fail, on their part its rare, and they offered you a replacement They would have FEA. Modelled it i expect so it should be more then up to the job Glad your ok dude

Looks like a very poor weld

Interesting. I have a titanium front & rear bits Brompton from 2012; no failures yet. Replaced a pedal and the seat clamp once, other than the usual maintenance.

I saw the same failure before. Bad.

On the Titanium frame - I have owned two Tiatanium framed bikes and both frames cracked on the down tube. Titanium may be lighter but in my experience, it cracks easilly and more alarming, it can do it with no prior warning. Stick to steel on a Brompton, mine hasn't cracked and being a time triallist, it has had a lot of power put through it. The other thing is, when you are doing a piece to camera, stand still. It is very annoying watching a talking human pendulum.

Having read mixed comments about other riders experience with Brompton re their frame issues, do you think yours was fixed quicker and to your satisfaction because you have a YT channel, and are likely to highlight every step of the process (good & bad, where applicable)?

I had a really bad warranty experience with Brompton recently. Had persistent shifting problems since when I bought it and the (steel) rear triangle by the chain pusher failed totally 9 months after I bought it. There was a braze that hadn't been done properly at all... Brompton were very unhelpful. They said it would take them 6-9 weeks to fix and they would only replace it with a rear triangle in a different colour to the rest of the bike... This was in the UK. Really upset with the service. They were totally unapologetic

Why would you even think dismantling your bike BEFORE Brompton could inspect it was the right thing to do? Basically you are saying to them "Accept what I have told you is the truth and actually the cause. This is how I want you to repair my bike!". Really??? If you want something repaired by some one else under warranty then DON'T do anything to it. Your error, not Brompton's. You should have just sent them your bike in the condition it was in when it failed. End of. Given you did dismantle your bike prior to them receiving it, they were pretty generous to still repair it and do all the extra work you said they did. I can't but help feel that titanium is not as strong as steel. Given you admit you ride your Brompton hard, maybe you would be better off with an all steel Brompton frame rather than their titanium one. Just a thought.

I’ve know what you mean (in your spoiler) about the P line. I’ve just acquired one through Ebay, almost new at only 70% of RRP (touch!). Simply put, I love it! My only regret is, I wish I’d got one sooner. Never mind, I’m making up for it. 👍🏻 Also, good to see Brompton were helpful and supportive. But then again, would we really expect anything else from this great company?

I can’t understand why you would expect Brompton to send you just the parts? They have no idea of individual owners skill set in being able to replace major parts, when they promote their bikes to people, who don’t even wear cycling clothing. I’m pleased you received a fantastic resolution from Brompton for this catastrophic failure. The majority of Brompton owners don’t have or want your skills would expect to send the whole bike bike, rightly thinking that if this weld could fail, so could others.

Hmm another rear triangle break