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That is definitely a possibility -the proximity effect can certainly influence timbre - however the feedback from independent listeners in the room confirm there is a subtle change in tone also. I am based in Melbourne but have courses scheduled for Sydney, Hobart and Adelaide for 2024 as well as online options.

One of Estill's operating principles is that "the air must respond to what it meets on the way out". Based on voice science rather than traditional singing pedagogy. Simplistically, when the voice is 'louder' the vocal folds are making contact for longer in the cycle of vibration and too much breath with undermine the efficiency. For more information and to dive deeper, come and do a voice training course with us!

I absolutely agree. Either it was a slip of the tongue or you misheard. The thyroarytenoid shortens the TVFs and Cricothyroid muscle lengthens and thins the TVFs. it is proposed that the cricopharyngeus muscle contracts and tilts the cricoid - this is the lower section of the inferior pharyngeal constrictor. There is always more to learn

I'm wondering where you learned this? This is the cricoid tilting - the false vocal folds (ventricular folds) are retracted and the true vocal folds are free to vibrate efficiently. The instrument is 'open'

That is not what i see. As off the moment when she says "the pitch rises" (min 5:30) the epiglottis tilts so far back that we cannot even see the vestibular/ventricular folds anymore. The epiglottis and the arytenoid cartilages come so close to one another that we cannot even see the vocal cords anymore at some point. That will diminish the volume that the people outside hear, because her sound reflects on the walls of her throat too often. There is no clear path for the sound waves. But worse: It's even dangerous for the singer, because when she raises the pitch and the entire walls of her throat come in, its very likely that the vestibular folds get closer to the vocal cords (because the tissue isn't stretched - which would make the vestibular folds be pulled to the outside - but rather collapses - which makes the vestibular folds be more lose and hang lower over the vocal cords -). And that makes it very likely that the vocal cords start to rub against the vestibular folds, since there is most likely little to no more space betweem the two (which we can't see in this video, cause the throat tightens up so much that the epiglottis entirely hides the vestibular folds). And when vocal cords rub against vestibular folds long and often enough, we get hoarse and eventually edema if that keeps on going. With a well trained voice (for healthy sound production) the walls of the throat would not come in like that to have less and less space when a singer goes higher. It would have more and more space instead, to keep vocal cords and vestibular folds apart for vocal health. Just because something can happen (cricoid tilting upwards) doesn't mean its good when it does.

@@vobavocal There is so much to unpack in your comments. Thank you for taking the time to respond. We definitely have a different approach. A 'well-trained voice' may be trained in one particular voice quality/genre. From your comments, I surmise that your background is classical voice. Certainly, in a contemporary music context, a higher larynx position, with narrowed aryepiglottic sphincter, is a reasonable option and appropriate for some repertoire. This lowering of the epiglottis creates an 'extra resonating chamber in the pharynx that boosts 2 - 4 kHz , resulting in a brighter sound and projection. It may not be one's preferred sound, but it is not dangerous when performed efficiently. With the raising of the larynx will come pharyngeal narrowing with the activation of suprahyoids and pharyngeal constrictors. All this is above the vocal folds (true & false) and can be done without any potential risk to vocal health, Estill Voice Training offers a unique training program to develop differentiated control of vocal tract structures.

Could you please explain what would the benefit of keeping the instrument “open” in a belt (therefore bright) sound be? I mean without laryngeal constriction. That is interesting to know. Possibly with scientific evidence (peer reviewed reference) that can support your statement. Otherwise, we must conclude that you legitimately just have a different artistic approach and aesthetic preference that I personally respect. But I wouldn’t identify a different artistic approach as a rule to impose to anyone else in the world. Curious to know more about this “open instrument” idea please. Thanks.

@@essentialvoice2666 Of course I'll respond. I love geeking out on the voice with other dedicated folk. Thanks for answering as well. I don't think that a well trained voice is well trained only in one genre. For me it's more about the muscles being able to do whatever genre in a healthy sustainable manner and also switch between all types of genres effortlessly. I'm actually from a Jazz and Musical background, not classical. But I also had some teachers that could do both classical, as well as moddern styles. The boost of the overtones around the 3kHz mark can also be achieved with a more open instrument, without the back tilt of the epiglottis. Specifically when the ventricle (space between the vestibular folds and vocal cords) opens up, these frequencies can easily gain in volume. And yes, we don't have to always keep the thyroid cartilage super low, but even with a super low thyroid cartilage we can achieve super bright belting sound when we don't widen the thyroid cartilage. So I don't see why we should let everything come in when we can also achieve bright sounds keeping the throat more open, totally avoiding the risk of vestibular folds-vocal cords contact. Now, that it's all “above the vocal folds (true & false)” and how the walls caving in from all angles, plus the thyroid cartilage coming up ... all that not having an impact on the distance between vocal cords and vestibular folds is something that is difficult for me to grasp at present. But maybe there is something there that keeps the two apart that I didn't understand yet. I also couldn't hear the ladies voice in the video, so I have no idea how it actually sounded with the laryngoscopy video. So basically I don't understand why we should raise the larynx and narrow everything when we can have the same (or sharper) bright sounds even with a wide throat and a larynx in the middle of the throat, which prevents us from hurting outselves. What's the benefit of playing with the fire here?

Yes, it is possible. The biggest issue will be finding a time zone that suits you. I have a course starting out of Singapore online (Singapore time zone) on 2nd June. www.estillvoice.com/find-a-course/?id=2192

Buenas tardes,yo vivo en ESPAÑA y estoy interesado en hacer un curso online o si se puede presencial. Gracias

I'll be running some Belting workshops online...where are you based?

@@essentialvoice2666 hi I’m from the Netherlands!

@@laurahijmans4297 Hi Laura, our time zone differences may make it difficult to join courses but I will be running a Belting workshop online this year...stay tuned!

you can visit www.essentialvoice.com.au tog et in touch with us, or www.estillvoice.com

Everyone sounds different. Don't stress about it. Your vocal weight is your own. Just make cool stuff with what you've been given!

Excelente video: explicación científica,clara y ejemplo de la cantante de como se hace. Me encantaría recibir clases online con usted. Información,por favor.

I'm so sorry to hear about your issues. I hope speech therapy is helping. You may wish to retrain your voice once your GERD and acid reflux is resolved.

Thank you for watching

Thank you. Estill Voiceprint Plus

Nope. It's the same principle of why you can't achieve the low notes of an acoustic bass on a violin. The lower you go in pitch, the longer the wavelength of the note. You need to stretch your vocal folds to accommodate the wavelength increase otherwise the desired pitch and timbre just won't happen.

Thank you so much!

Working on it!

Thank you

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Cricothyroids. Those are internal muscles.

You might need some help. Where are you in the world? You can learn online at one of our courses or I can direct you to someone local.

@@essentialvoice2666 I'm in South of Portugal. I have a vocal teacher but I just wasn't sure if I was doing the exercises correctly. So I asked him and he clarified for me... actually he did give me some exercises to help isolate the different techniques, but he also told me not to worry too much about it... he said I'd be able to feel it better with practice.

Yo estoy interesado en hacer un curso en línea o presencial. Vivo en España

Thanks Peggy, more on its way!

Yes, we do! essentialvoice.com.au

Yes I do. I am planning an online Belting workshop soon

@@essentialvoice2666 That sounds great. Where can I follow you to see when it takes place? :)

@@keoma.aidhen www.essentialvoice.com.au/courses

@@keoma.aidhen www.essentialvoice.com.au

Please get a poster that says 'to tilt or not to tilt? that is the question'