Robert Banker
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Throwing and Carving a Clay Plate
In this video, I show how to throw a small plate on the potter's wheel and carve the surface with a design. This video parallel's another video showing lathe turning and carving a small wood plate. There is no voice over or sound track for this video.
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Carved lathe turned wood plate
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This video shows turning and carving a small plate from Alaskan Yellow Cedar.
Making Clay Carving Tools 3 Heat Treating Steel
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In this video, I go over annealing, hardening and tempering the steel I use for tool making.
Making Clay Carving Tools 5 Carving
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In this video, I carve a porcelain cup with a knife.
Making Clay Carving Tools 2 Edge Profiles
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In this video, I go over the carving tool shapes that I use.
Making Clay Carving Tools 4 Shaping and Sharpening
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In this video, I show the process of making a clay carving knife and put on a handle.
Making Clay Carving Tools 1 Choosing Steel
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In this video, I go over the clay carving tools I make and discuss where I get steel to make them.
Pinch Pot Basics
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This video shows the basics of pinching a bowl form while maintaining control of the shape.
Pinch Pot With a Pinched Foot
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This video shows how to pinch both the bowl form as well as the foot from one lump of clay.
Pinch Pot Asymmetric Form with Foot
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Not all pinch pots need to be symmetrical. Experiment with sculptural or asymmetric forms.
Pinch Pot Carving - Choosing Tools
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This video shows some of the carving tools in our studio and how you can begin to experiment with their use.
Pinch Pot Carved Surface Experimentation
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This video shows different tools used to carve and scrape a pinch pot.
Throwing Pots on a Raised Wheelhead and Trimming on a Chuck
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In this video, I show some benefits of throwing and trimming pottery above the normal wheelhead level. I am working in my home studio on the treadle wheel. I have been teaching online for the past year - no Ceramics courses - so this is the first video in some time with clay. I have been making videos for online Drawing and 3D Design courses instead. It is good to get back to this subject.
Drawing I: 16 Self Portrait Drawing
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In this video, I complete the self portrait drawing using the proportions I worked out last week. In this project, you are adding a background that represents you in some way. I am drawing my son in a landscape that is close to where we live.
Drawing I: 15 Self Portrait Proportions
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In this video, I show several strategies for getting facial proportions correct in the first week of your self portrait project. In the slides, I go over setting up proportions using a geometric method in more detail.
Drawing I: 16 Self Portrait Transfer Proportions
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Drawing I: 16 Self Portrait Transfer Proportions
Drawing I: 13 Gesture Drawing
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Drawing I: 13 Gesture Drawing
Drawing I: 12 Self Portrait Facial Features
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Drawing I: 12 Self Portrait Facial Features
Drawing I: 11 Still Life
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Drawing I: 11 Still Life
Drawing I: 10 Still Life Studies
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Drawing I: 10 Still Life Studies
Drawing I: 8 Two Point Perspective
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Drawing I: 8 Two Point Perspective
Drawing I: 7 One Point Perspective
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Drawing I: 7 One Point Perspective
Drawing I: 9 Drawing from Imagination
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Drawing I: 9 Drawing from Imagination
Drawing I: 5 Drawing What You See: Natural Environment
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Drawing I: 5 Drawing What You See: Natural Environment
Drawing I: 4 Drawing What You See: Built Environment
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Drawing I: 4 Drawing What You See: Built Environment
Drawing I: 6 Spray Fixative
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Drawing I: 6 Spray Fixative
Drawing I: 3 Still Life
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Drawing I: 3 Still Life
Drawing I: 2 Textures and Mark Making
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Drawing I: 2 Textures and Mark Making
Drawing I: 1 Drawing Tools
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Drawing I: 1 Drawing Tools
Box Pattern Slab Vessel Part 1
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Box Pattern Slab Vessel Part 1

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @yvonne2259
    @yvonne2259 11 днів тому

    Thanks a million!

  • @khunutdom4851
    @khunutdom4851 Місяць тому

    You have solved my problem. Thank you.

  • @1990SButter
    @1990SButter Місяць тому

    Why was I never tought this I'm always doing all the math

  • @ellenbettencourt9272
    @ellenbettencourt9272 Місяць тому

    Thank you so much!! If you only knew how many hours I’ve spent trying to make a cone pattern to my dimensions! This is genius! Could you please tell me what type of exacto knife you used and where you purchased it if you remember?! Would love to buy one or two! Thanks again!

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Місяць тому

      You can get an X-Acto knife at any craft store or easily find online.

  • @diegaah
    @diegaah Місяць тому

    Gorgeous work! Your hands were so gentle

  • @SMartypAntsPants
    @SMartypAntsPants 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @shellylosoya4105
    @shellylosoya4105 2 місяці тому

    I loved watching you throw on the treadle wheel. It looks so relaxing.

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 2 місяці тому

      It is relaxing. We all hurry up too much, even when doing the things we love. I hope you get to try a treadle wheel.

  • @janebell469
    @janebell469 4 місяці тому

    When I use an electric wheel, I end up with a splash pan full of water and slip. Is it important to use less water or not mess around too long as there’s not a deep pan that goes all the way around? Thank you for the tips!! I’m hoping to buy a second hand one.

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 4 місяці тому

      This wheel pan dumps water back on the larger work surface. It catches water but trimmings fly off. None of this bothers me as the kick wheel in my home studio also has a very small improvised splash pan. Put a big sponge where water drips. Sweep up the floor before trimming so you can sweep up the trimmings without getting any foreign material in the recycled clay. This wheel is quick to clean up after use compared with wheels where you have to remove a two part splash pan. Some of my students take half a semester to figure out how to put a splash pan back on a Brent wheel. Use however much water you think you need, no one is judging how you work. Rather than mess around with one pot, simply take off when you get what you like and use the mess around time to make another piece. In my opinion, Lockerbie wheels have way too heavy of a flywheel for small to medium size pots, the kind most of us spend most of our time making.

    • @janebell469
      @janebell469 4 місяці тому

      Thanks! I like the idea of a kick wheel, but I will be making smaller pieces-probably 20 lbs at the most. Is there a kick wheel that is lighter for that level of throwing? I love Brent electric wheels, but I can’t find a used one, and for now a new one is out of my budget. I don’t know that I need a wheel as sturdy as a Brent, but I really don’t want to spend several hundred dollars for something that feels rickety or wobbly compared to the Brents I have used. Thoughts?

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 3 місяці тому

      @@janebell469 New potter's wheels are not cheap. No one buys kick wheels so no one aside from Lockerbie makes them that I know of. Suppliers used to offer kits for kick wheels containing bearings, shaft, wheel head and plans. I just looked and didn't find this available any more. My suggestion is watch CL or Marketplace for used equipment. Often there is nothing but a few weeks ago there were six electric wheels listed in CL. Getting what you want in the used market simply requires patience. Lots of people abandon this "hobby". Take a good look at what you make. Almost everything I make is less than five pounds. Majority of functional forms are less than two pounds. You don't need something that is rated for 50 pounds unless that is what you use it for.

  • @aashirsiddiqui5203
    @aashirsiddiqui5203 4 місяці тому

    really wanted help for this and got exactly what I wanted 👍

  • @akpul1220
    @akpul1220 4 місяці тому

    Thank you!!

  • @markscarborough1018
    @markscarborough1018 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for your excellent 'no-nonsense' tutorial!

  • @Venekieli
    @Venekieli 7 місяців тому

    What is that kick wheel called? The exact model would be amazing to know- I fell in love with it!

  • @marilynjackson5752
    @marilynjackson5752 8 місяців тому

    What consistency should the clay to put in the pug mill be if you don't have a clay mixer?

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 8 місяців тому

      The clay comes out the same as it goes in. The pug mill just mixes the clay more and vacuums out the air. It may feel a little stiffer as it gets more dense after de-airing.

    • @marilynjackson5752
      @marilynjackson5752 7 місяців тому

      Do you have to add grog to the clay that comes from throwing?

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 7 місяців тому

      @@marilynjackson5752 No, you don't need to add grog. What goes in is what comes out. You probably have more slip in your throwing water bucket than grog.

    • @marilynjackson5752
      @marilynjackson5752 7 місяців тому

      @@robertbanker5319 Again, I thank you for your answer. We were wondering about this since it seems our clay isn't as easy to use for hand building after being pugged.

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 7 місяців тому

      @@marilynjackson5752 By "less easy to use" I am guessing you mean the clay is less plastic - can bend less before cracking. A clay mixer or pug mill without a vacuum pump leaves clay full of voids, tiny bubbles of air and will be less plastic than clay that is bought in a box or wedged. The vacuum part of the process is what makes the clay plastic by making it dense without voids. Make sure you are getting a good vacuum. Put the first clay that comes out of the machine back through. Some students pug the clay twice, realizing that quite of clay remains in the machine.

  • @marnoster
    @marnoster 8 місяців тому

    If anyone is interested in drawing cone geometry like this without a protractor, I’ve created a spreadsheet for myself to draw cone geometry by dividing the cone into 8 equal sections and then laying them out next to each other. Just plug in the values of your top diameter, bottom diameter and cone height and it will give you the dimensions of the segment. docs.google.com/file/d/1VchDCIvJI3ZqEFnRKnWGxOfubfsq6CjN/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msexcel

  • @lodgechant
    @lodgechant 8 місяців тому

    I love your pattern making tutorials. They’ve helped me understand how to investigate three-dimensional pattern making with more confidence. I teach Design to teenagers in Cape Town, so it’s going to be helpful to use your ideas with them too. Many thanks - much appreciated!

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 8 місяців тому

      Thank you for your kind words. Good starting point ideas come from many places. A teacher like you will surely add your own ways of connecting design with methods of turning concept into form.

  • @julsc2106
    @julsc2106 8 місяців тому

    Thank you Robert

  • @IQ9.9-dn2xt6bm6h
    @IQ9.9-dn2xt6bm6h 9 місяців тому

    love you From Bangladesh ❤

  • @MountainGardenGirl
    @MountainGardenGirl 9 місяців тому

    should I just draw those dimensions and copy three times?

  • @MountainGardenGirl
    @MountainGardenGirl 9 місяців тому

    I am trying to cover a cheap laundry basket from dollar tree with a fine mesh fabric to use over plants and make them chipmunk/rabbit proof. How do use this info to do that? the basket is conical d =17 h =12 b = 11 Please help. This should be easy but I am having a very senior moment

  • @diegaah
    @diegaah 9 місяців тому

    Where are you based?

  • @diegaah
    @diegaah 9 місяців тому

    Absolutely therapeutic and beautiful to see you work

  • @malcolm7436
    @malcolm7436 10 місяців тому

    Just love the glaze at 4:24.

  • @malcolm7436
    @malcolm7436 10 місяців тому

    Really wish I had had a teacher like you, what fantastic pedagogy. When you said you have permission to experiment and show you something you've never seen before, permission make something I do not know how to do - love that.

  • @shaw7598
    @shaw7598 10 місяців тому

    beautiful machine!

  • @lagurichardluke8515
    @lagurichardluke8515 11 місяців тому

    Thanks 🎉

  • @suzanne9695
    @suzanne9695 11 місяців тому

    This looks so complicated. Definitely meant for smart people! Lol

  • @chrisdaniel1339
    @chrisdaniel1339 Рік тому

    Good information. I know you are a draftsman just by your mechanical pencils The Japanese made Pentel P203 (0.3 mm), P205 (0.5 mm), P207 (0.7 mm), and P209 (0.9mm) have been the drafting industry standard since at least the 1970's up until CAD drafting took over. I own them all, highest quality mechanical pencils ever made, and reasonably priced. I still have all my K&M triangles, scales, compasses, and other drafting gear. I am on the hunt for a drafting machine and large table as CAD software especially AutoCAD is crazy expensive for just home tinkering projects.

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      Thanks for the comment. I spent ten years as a draftsman in an architect's office. Before computer drafting was common. We designed on trace and drew on mylar. For basic work, it seems faster to me to use a pencil and paper. You don't have to turn something on to see what you are working on. Good luck finding a drafting table. Local listings sometimes have tables with drafting machines cheap because no one knows how to use one.

  • @Adam-ui8iy
    @Adam-ui8iy Рік тому

    I am building my own kick wheel and am using these videos as reference. What I love about pottery is that manual wheels seem to be much more preferred by expert potters, which is great given the current state of electric wheel prices.

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      This wheel is at the college. I built my own wheel a long time ago when it was the only way to end up with what I wanted to use. I feel a lot more connected to my work using this wheel and have no interest in owning a wheel with a motor. Good luck making your wheel. My treadle wheel is in this video: ua-cam.com/video/4S959jospnw/v-deo.htmlsi=CbRMfM1prZnmXdxz

    • @verdigrissirgidrev4152
      @verdigrissirgidrev4152 10 місяців тому

      @@robertbanker5319 would you say that this type of wheel is generally preferable to kick wheels?

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 10 місяців тому

      I don't think that any one wheel type is better than another. I am a teacher and I want to encourage students to find out what they like or prefer on their own. The choice for most people mostly comes down to what is available or cheap or what they learned how to throw on. There are 26 Brent electric wheels in the studio where I teach. Fortunately we also have one kick wheel, one Shimpo and the treadle wheel for students to try. They don't know how lucky they are in having the choice. My personal preference is no motor. You don't need the wheel to go as fast as most people try to work. If you want to make really big pieces or work for hours at a time making a living, I can see this affecting your choice of tool. @@verdigrissirgidrev4152

    • @verdigrissirgidrev4152
      @verdigrissirgidrev4152 10 місяців тому

      @@robertbanker5319 thank you. I'll try making a simple asian kick wheel and decide from there if I want to go the treadle or kick route.

  • @george70015
    @george70015 Рік тому

    Hi, After annealing and shaping, do you harden and then temper the steel? If so, do you have an explanation on how to do so?

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      Sorry, this is in an earlier video. MakingClay Carving Tools 3 Heat Treating Steel. ua-cam.com/video/kSag8lCqUtA/v-deo.htmlsi=OY1dGLliKOtvYV5T

    • @george70015
      @george70015 Рік тому

      @@robertbanker5319 Thanks! So just to see if I got it correctly: you are annealing, shaping and then heat the blade to straw color and air cool it? BTW - your videos are amazing! really enjoyed watching them :)

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      Anneal if the steel is hardened (like you are using a saw blade) to make shaping and any bending easier. Annealing softens previously hardened steel. If you are just making a knife, you don't have to anneal but should be careful not to overheat the steel if you use a grinder - if keeping a sharp edge for as long as possible is important. If you start with hardened steel and don't overheat it when making your tool you can skip the rest of the hardening and tempering steps. You can cut clay with a sharp piece of wood so any metal edge will last longer, whether hardened or just unhardened mild steel. Steps: 1. Anneal the hard steel if needed. 2. Shape the annealed (softer) steel. 3. Harden the steel by heating to red heat, no longer magnetic and quench, water is fine. Different steels have different heat temperatures and quench methods but with tools for clay you don't need perfection. Metal at this stage is very hard but also brittle. 4. Temper the steel so your tool doesn't break. This is the straw color gentle heat. If you get it too hot it becomes softer. If not hot enough, it is still brittle. Be careful if using a torch, hold the flame farther away than you think as the color change happens quickly. Most steel tempers just fine in the oven when you are making pizza or baking at 425 to 450. An hour is good but shorter is fine for thin tools. I hope this helps. There are lots of videos on hardening and tempering steel that show specifics. What I show is fine for someone with a propane torch making tools for clay although I have also made wood carving tools with these methods.@@george70015

    • @george70015
      @george70015 Рік тому

      ​@@robertbanker5319Thanks for the detailed answer!

  • @alebot
    @alebot Рік тому

    Super fast method (I used the first method). Extremely clear video. I used this for sewing, but the principle is the same everywhere.

  • @hrkcreations8340
    @hrkcreations8340 Рік тому

    Hello could you share your contact details to buy this machine

  • @thebeardogg
    @thebeardogg Рік тому

    Thank you very much....well done....your like a human cnc machine 😊

  • @jackpack4343
    @jackpack4343 Рік тому

    Hola buen video Donde puedo comprar un pug mill

  • @snowballeffect7812
    @snowballeffect7812 Рік тому

    Thank you for the informative video, Robert.

  • @danceswithaardvarks3284
    @danceswithaardvarks3284 Рік тому

    Fantastic. Nice to find some clear and simple instructions after watching several other confusing videos. Thanks.

  • @hamisusani2069
    @hamisusani2069 Рік тому

    Good work!

  • @samlongbotham1840
    @samlongbotham1840 Рік тому

    Beautiful drawing. The proportions are excellent.

  • @samlongbotham1840
    @samlongbotham1840 Рік тому

    Thank you soooo much!!!

  • @jc9670
    @jc9670 Рік тому

    Do blueprints or plans exist on how to build one? Thank you!

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      Search "Leach wheel plans". You will find what appears to be scans of old paper plans. Figure out what scale they are so you can get a few more measurements. The originals were blueprints scaled 3" = one foot. The drawings show as a woodworking project that is above average difficulty. The crank and treadle proportions are about all you really need to know or get close. It's not rocket science but you need to source parts like shaft and bearings and either know how to weld and do woodworking or get some help. Most people make kick wheels because they are perceived as simpler. In other videos, you can see my treadle wheel. I took basic measurements off a Leach wheel and welded up the frame. My wheel has metal bolted to wood legs so it can be taken apart to be more easily moved. That's another consideration, doors and stairs. The weight of the flywheel is personal preference. Leach wheels have very light flywheels, my wheel is a piece of cast iron from the scrap yard and has more momentum so it runs more smoothly at slow speed. Build a wheel that fits you as it can be a pretty big investment of time.

  • @RS-ld6jf
    @RS-ld6jf Рік тому

    Tech me to make elbow please

  • @RS-ld6jf
    @RS-ld6jf Рік тому

    Send me more video I love it

  • @toddzilla6491
    @toddzilla6491 Рік тому

    Worked great!! Thank🙂you

  • @timsparks2862
    @timsparks2862 Рік тому

    Terrible not a teacher

  • @danhpoirier
    @danhpoirier Рік тому

    Hi! love your video, your style. Simple, efficient. Question: what does it mean to throw with efficiency and grace? Another potter said she "tickles" her clay on a kick wheel, vs with force when using an electric one. Any difference in the clay itself? Should it be softer? so many questions. I was given a beautiful kick wheel, nice inertia, great fly wheel. I love to sit up rather than crouching over an electric one. Just haven't found the trick to do any thing right, yet. (Not really a potter, more of a sculptor).

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      As a teacher, I see students approach throwing all sorts of ways, despite showing methods that work best for most people and are simple for beginners. I have also watched some awesome potters at work. So I have a few ideas on efficient work becoming graceful. Of course, I make a living as a teacher rather than full time potter so I am free from equating production with paying for health insurance. It is easier to show than describe but I will try my best to answer your questions. Have a clear goal in mind before you start. Size and shape and thickness in your head. One idea for each lump of clay. Just make that. Then the next thing is a fresh start. Relax, remember you are doing this because you enjoy it and will have something to show for your effort. Use soft clay. Or use the softest clay you can to make the form you desire. Your body will approve. Soft clay moves more easily so it takes less work and less time to make the form. Less time spent, working directly is efficient. You may not be able to fool around with softer clay for as long but you shouldn’t need to. Some people use stiff clay trying for control. This can be more like wrestling with the clay. Some people enjoy this battle. Don’t mess around with centering. Only center the clay as much as needed to make the form. You don’t need to center each piece of clay the same exact way unless your goal is simply to center clay perfectly. That’s not really the point, the form you make is what you are after. Centering never stops. You are centered. You coax the clay into cooperating with your ideas. You don’t need to be in a hurry. Working steadily beats thinking you need to get things done. Every time. If you have to set goals, make sure they are realistic. Remember that you are using a kick wheel intentionally. You are not attached to a machine, you are intimately involved with the way the clay moves. Work with the way the momentum comes out of the wheel. As the wheel slows, you respond with the way your hands move more slowly perhaps. You can gently kick and throw at the same time if you need to. There are no rules. Throwing the clay by lifting rather than pinching matters even more on a kick wheel. None of my students who “already know how to throw” actually do. Lots of teachers and even potters don’t throw by displacing the wall in order to lift the clay. You could mash the clay or you could coax the clay. One is a more graceful way of working and this translates to the form the clay takes. A skilled craftsperson makes things look easy, regardless of media. That’s who you want to learn from or emulate.

    • @danhpoirier
      @danhpoirier Рік тому

      @@robertbanker5319 awesome response. Thanks for taking the time!

  • @michaelshtutman669
    @michaelshtutman669 Рік тому

    Your approximation of PI disappoints me :)

  • @AcidAlan
    @AcidAlan Рік тому

    It took me a second to understand why you marked off the radius 6 times. I realized that its rough 2*pi*r (2x3.14xradius) which is roughly radius times six. I hope this helps other people who maybe are confused by this. The tutorial is great but maybe could be more clear about the reason why 6 was given or why 3 was given--as a rounded version of pi (3.14). Hope this helps others! Thanks for the tutorial.

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      It's there at 18 seconds into the video. Your note is more clearly described than my narrative. You are quick enough to figure out the tinsmith's rule of thumb as a math problem on your own. I made this video for my students in part to show how math works out in physical form. The relation between chord length and arc length and pi is interesting to me, even as an artist. When using this way of making patterns for clay vessels, the fit of pieces can be adjusted easily by stretching or shrinking the material. When using this method for sheet metal, the patterns can be adjusted or a pattern offered up to a fabricated conical section.

    • @AcidAlan
      @AcidAlan Рік тому

      @@robertbanker5319 Thanks for your comment Robert and my bad for just missing the remark! And I didn't mean to be critical, the video is great and was just what i needed! I am learning pattern drafting for sewing and I had a heckuva time trying to figure this out initially and your video was very helpful! Thank you!

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      @@AcidAlan Not offended by your thoughtful message at all. I am always open to suggestions for how to explain things better. Most of the students I have shown these methods to cannot connect the math concept to the physical pattern.

  • @bryonytaylor9693
    @bryonytaylor9693 Рік тому

    I've been following your tutorial and I had the assumption that the base of the drawing would be the diameter of the base circle. But every time I've done it the base has been way bigger than my cut out. Do you know what I might be doing wrong?

    • @robertbanker5319
      @robertbanker5319 Рік тому

      I am not sure that I follow your question. Here is a try based on what I imagine you are doing. If using the first method with a compass, you don't measure using the diameter of the circle. You use the radius - half the diameter - to determine the length of the arc that you drew with the compass. 6 X the radius. In the second method where the sketch of the shape is reproduced three times, you are using the diameter. The reason you step off the measurement of an arc using the radius is that the smaller steps are more accurate, the difference between the straight "line" you are using to measure with and the arc you drew is less. If this isn't helpful, try to describe which method you are using another way.

  • @tiscur11
    @tiscur11 Рік тому

    Amazing! Thank you for the refresher and the quick way to do it with only a pencil and cutting tool!

  • @desert.mantis
    @desert.mantis Рік тому

    Thanks for the demo, Robert.👌

  • @lisa-marieserafin6440
    @lisa-marieserafin6440 Рік тому

    This was extremely helpful! Thanks so much for the video. My new template is excellent. I had to use the 2nd method because my compass is far too small. Thanks again!