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Not just the fingers... you can knit the entire glove, the whole hand on a dodecahedron. But you could also make a garment, a sort of tunic with sleeves. It's possible your solution is also correct... the Dodecahedron may be a Multi-Use tool.

Solution: A devise for French knitting.

Nice try but totally unconvinced. There must be simpler ways, equally secure, of sending certification. Does the 'wax' supposedly found on two dodecahedra match the sealing 'wax' that was used by Romans? How does your system accommodate reverse order characters in the Roman number system (e.g. XXI versus XIX)?

Just seeing it for the very first time... it is Blatantly Obvious what it is and is used to do. It is a Cypher! Each hole is a different size = different sized peg for each hole = each peg has a fixed and a rotating disc of Latin Alphabet. Twelve sides = 12 difference cyphers. So when use peg 7 with it's pair of discs. After the cypher is jotted on the wood, papyrus, etc, placed inside a courier container (cylinder) and pour wax and press down the bottom (opposite side of discs). The person receiving it would place their unit in the wax holes to get the right size 7 UPwards... put in the matching cypher 7 peg with discs... and decode the message. Easy way to convey Secure Messages across the Empire! New size 1 to 12 pegs / discs could be made each year or each Olympiad (4 years)... so the code is impossible for anyone without a unit... or with the OLD cypher = message is jibberish.

I loved the "Juliarse Caesar" joke - and the joke about the new idea for a salad! 😂

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Why not simply write the value in a piece of paper and seal it?

I think the lady who recognized it as a tool for making woven gold chains solved it. The holes are for a dowel, the knobs are to wrap the wire creating the links. Different sized holes are for larger or smaller chains. Furthermore, pulling the chain through the smaller openings uniformly reduces the diameter and lengthens it. The device can also be used to make braided cloth cord. It's been evident since they were first discovered these are a weaving device of some sort, the mystery was exactly what for and how it was used. ua-cam.com/video/lADTLozKm0I/v-deo.html

Nah. I go with braiding gold wire. That's why the opposite holes are the same size. Why they were found with treasure.

Amy Gaines has solved it! ... ua-cam.com/video/lADTLozKm0I/v-deo.htmlsi=HTAQda_iHgTqW2wq

Regarding the Roman Dodecahedron, the proposed purpose that I like most is “Candle Holder”. -The holes fit various sizes of candles, since there was no standardized manufacturing -Heavy and stable - very important with a burning candle -Will not catch fire when candle burns down -Rings on each face catch dripping wax (which was found on some of them) -The ball feet keep it stable on irregular surfaces -The Dodecahedron are found in the northern parts of the Roman Empire where winter nights are longer and candles were more necessary and valuable.

VOLUME. I deserted your vid bc it was way too low and too much of a bother running it back constantly to hear everything you were saying. A shame really. I hope you fix this error.

Making gold chains. You have a similar idea but put a dowel through two holes. At the base weave a wire around the knobs on one side. Stitch through the loops and work your way down the dowel. Then you can pull the wire chain through smaller and smaller holes until you have a small, woven, gold chain. Credit to Amy Gaines UA-cam channel.

it's a sex toy

I just watched "Solved? The Roman Dodecahedron" Amy Gaines UA-cam channel where she uses it to make a chain and ropes which looks a lot like Roman chains. She shows footage of herself doing it. You might wanna watch her video.

They are for weaving gold wire into fancy braided chain. After you've woven the wire into an 7" long piece lets say, you can reduce it's diameter by feeding it through progressively smaller holes whilst maintaining the integrity of the braid. This also lengthens the chain. Goldsmiths of the Roman era would have been familiar with this technology. Also likely why they are associated with gold hordes.

The dodecahedron may very well be the only surviving item in a cryptography system. The wax was to seal the encrypted message. All were found at military bases. An encrypted wheel fit in one of the many round holes, part of the coding system. The different wheels and holes all had a particular cyper. Much like the different drum choices on an Enigma machine led to cypher scrambling. Anyhow, the round hole was stamped into the wax on the cyphered letter from the author. The receiver, who had an identical dodecahedron, matched the hole, added the correspinding cypher wheel, and unlocked the message. A good description of this on another channel. Fascinating proposals.

Hmmm, it's clever, yes, but I think it is extremely complicated and also messy for a literate administration where numbers could just be written down and sealed - is it really a quick and practical use? Not certain of that - compared to the "knitting" theory, which seems much more versatile and useful. I get your criticism about the "fingers", but for me the chains for jewelry and/or making sturdy ropes strikes with its practicality in a variety of different uses and it being a very well designed little tool...

It's so obviously a French Knitting device for knitting Willie Warmers for Roman Centurions😅

What is your take on all the knitting channels, betting on that the roman dodecahedron is a tool for knitting fingered gloves or for producing sturdy ropes or chains? It makes sense in a military context, because the items produced with it are just in demand, especially in the northern regions, and it could be found with treasure hordes merely by merit of being a rather expensive tool?

A few counterpoints. 1. Too expensive for that purpose, 2. Some would have been found with wire, which provides better security. 3. Counting and seals continued after the disappearance of Roman culture but such a handy device did not. Why? 4. Since the purpose was not described in any text, and I would think the voluminous Latin texts would have do so, it is more likely two things: A. a trade secret and knowing how to read a counting device is not a trade secret and B. it is connected with something that disappeared when these objects vanish from the record. A recent suggestion is a chain weaving device and that fits the criteria.

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That's Richard Burton, not Paul Newman...

Mr Nice, greetins from Spain. Apologies for the quality of the machine translation . All the hypothesis of the use of the Roman Dodecahedron, after 285 years, are not supported, have inconsistencies and always end with "it is not known", "I have no idea". On june 5, a coherent and reasonably logical hypothesis about its use appeared. It is a game where you insert coins and roll. Gold nuggets are placed in the icosahedron and it is also rolled. Everything is well explained on UA-cam: DODECAEDRO ROMANO: SE ACABÓ EL MISTERIO. (There is an automatic translator to English in the video settings). You can see signs of wear on the balls or knobs, in some photos, as a result of the back- and - forth friction on the table, a movement similar to that of billiard player before hitting the ball. It is a very reasonable hypothesis. Either one is on the side of the esoteric and mystery or on the side of logical reason. If after 285 years "students " and "scientists" were interested science could have the last word. Greetings.

Man if you can read that you can read a letter with a wax seal that says how much money they are sending to you. It' not easier, not practical and even more difficult. You don't need 12 sides to represent 6 numeric values, and why represent values with the size of the holes instead of the actual marks?, you may say that one side represents gold and the other silver but there are no marks for that so you can' t know which side is what. And you can send him many things instead of coins, you can send grains, fabrics, slaves or animals or any combination at the same time. It doesn't solve any problem that a piece of paper and a little reading knowledge can't already do without the problems that the dodecahedron generates.

Down thumb cause I can't HEAR YOU!

I have the volume up all the way, and I can’t make out a word you’re saying.

Sorry, you're just wishfully making it up! Below is far and away the best theory I've seen plus a convincing demo of how to use it. Solved? The Roman Dodecahedron ua-cam.com/video/lADTLozKm0I/v-deo.html

See Matt.Geevan for full explanation.

Sailing Mr Nice, eh? I think the enigma may have recently been solved, Len. The Roman Dodecahedron is an ancient Enigma Machine, for encoding and decoding military signals. The different sized holes are to fit a set of twelve differently-sized dowels fixed to paper rings with letters around the circumference. The small, spherical pegs engage in holes around the circumference of the circular paper rings. If we had the paper and wooden parts, its purpose would have easily been deduced.

ua-cam.com/video/vBDgmE3d0aw/v-deo.htmlsi=k5D8KmKS2z6zkzUk THIS IS WHAT IT WAS FOR!

Used for knitting gloves .

Too complicated . Its a code machine with wheels .

Nice one , But thi s doesn't really explain the shape or the form. You can really make this in another shape and achieve the same thing , no holes , no Dodecahedron.

I like the idea that it's an anti-tamper device that was somehow used with money. That would explain a lot. It may be that you're over-complicating it. I wonder if you could seal a sack by running the cinching cords through holes and then around the knobs in some pre-determined pattern. And then put your sealing wax over that. Like an bankers' security bag. Everyone knows you could cut the lock off a security bag. The deterrent is that you'd never be able to get it back on. Either theory could explain the existence of the non-standard icosahedron : Some rich guy living in the country needed to send cash somewhere, but didn't have one of the 'official' dodecahedrons, and had to get one crafted locally based on a half-remembered description of one. Still weird that none are found in Italy itself. If roman bankers/treasurers used these things, you'd think someone would find a cache of unused ones.

Very clever hypothesis!

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ROMAN DODECAHEDRON - TESSERA ARCA (KNUCKLE BOX) The recent discovery of another Roman Dodecahedron in England has reignited the debate as to the purpose of this unusual item. All manner of bizarre theories have been suggested, but strangely none have been correct. Such suggestions range from celestial measuring devices, sacred objects, gambling dice, cunning weapons of war, candle holders and votives, distributors of dog treats and even a device for knitting the fingers of gloves (which it can be used for, just as it can be used as a paperweight). The dodecahedrons are in fact a Tessera Arca (Knuckle Box ring sizer) and were used specifically to measure the fingers (knuckle) in order to size rings that were made from coins . Back in the day if you wanted a ring made from precious metal the easiest way to do this was to use an old coin. However this practise of destroying legal tender was just as illegal back in the day as it is in most countries today so the craftsmen and women who offered this service were usually transitory and highly secretive about their trade. This accounts for the service not being available in the Mediterranean (heart of the) Roman Empire, and generally practised in the North-West of the Empire. As such no dodecahedra have been found outside this region to date. The client impressed and encouraged by the sheer craftsmanship of the dodecahedron, that was a remarkable feat of engineering skill in those days, would slip their chosen ring ringer or thumb into the 12 available holes of the dodecahedron until the correct fit was ascertained. The craftsman would then place the coin to be used over the hole using the surrounding nodules to hold the coin in position whilst it was scribed from the opposite side (from within the dodecahedron) with the outline of the circle. The coin could now be removed from the tessera and worked. Firstly a hole would have been drilled and cut in the centre of the coin. in the centre of the coin, almost as wide as the guide mark. The coin would then be placed on a tapered metal spike and hammered with a soft mallet so it folds over until it makes a flat ring. A bit of filing and the ring is finished and fits perfectly. A skilled technician could thus create a ring whilst his customer waited, in just a couple of hours, and then on receipt of payment disappear into the shadows. Of course there were easier ways to size a ring, they could have used a simple bunch of sample rings, but this would be much more conspicuous and far less alluring than a dodecahedron placed on a dimly lit tavern table, probably with a small candle lit inside to accentuate the object and add to its mysticism and curiosity. The tessera was not just a tool, it was a shop window advertising sign. And of course if the craftsman were caught in possession of a dodecahedron, well the authorities would be totally baffled and have no better idea of its actual use just as we do today. It is hardly surprising therefore that there are no records of dodecahedra being used in ancient Rome or openly anywhere else and that several dodecahedra have been found with coin hoards. It is more than likely that the service and the dodecahedra were not even Roman in origin, and more likely to be Galic, Celtic or performed by some other person. Certainly the service would not have been available to respectable wealthy Romans, who in any case required a much grander design of ring. Tessera rings were mote than likely offered only to the Plebecites and drunken soldiers and indigenous tribes.

nice!; where can I buy one?

My own solution: ua-cam.com/video/JGUESo2pFxY/v-deo.html

A well-presented theory, I don't agree with it but it's well-explained and seems reasonable to suggest. Beautiful Dodecahedron, absolutely stunning.

Tidy mun !