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Re-contexualising fashion.
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy made style personal again.
The persistent and cult-like fascination with a woman who defined 90s fashion shows us how personal style can transcend time. Carolyn may have been the First Lady we never had, yet she exists in our hearts as the First Lady who taught us what personal style and modern femininity meant today.
Timestamps:
00:00 Fashion in the 2020s.
02:03 The impact of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy.
05:16 The concept of personal style.
08:35 The reason behind the CBK 90s comeback.
13:41 Internalising before externalising.
20:00 Redefining modern femininity with self-awareness.
Timestamps:
00:00 Fashion in the 2020s.
02:03 The impact of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy.
05:16 The concept of personal style.
08:35 The reason behind the CBK 90s comeback.
13:41 Internalising before externalising.
20:00 Redefining modern femininity with self-awareness.
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The Devil Wears Prada sequel has the potential to surpass the original.
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The Devil Wears Prada sequel has the potential to surpass the original.
The Row makes boring clothes exciting.
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The Row makes boring clothes exciting.
There is nothing quiet about quiet luxury.
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There is nothing quiet about quiet luxury.
She was arrogant and rarely smiled. Imo she was her husbands downfall. Right before the Plane Crash that claimed their lives she showed up late and pissed.
I loved this video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Beautifully put together! Excellent video ✨✨✨
Best video about Carolyn on UA-cam! Thank you! I thouroghly enjoyed it
Such an excellent video, but only has so few fans
You are not well informed about Victoria Beckham’s business and other celebrities you mention. In general your documentary is pretty dark and « against » Beeing a supporter of the Row doesn’t imply disinformation on brands you simply don’t like and obviously you don’t know ( figures , figures , data’s data’s , work work ?) shame because the row deserves more attention Ni hard feelings though . Alfred
This video is top tier. Well documented and done 🔥
I love this take and pov it's a refreshing outlook on the fact that we have so many bad sequels because of lazy bad writing, not because sequels can't offer something different or even more better
I agree that she is a very refreshing icon. However, I wonder. Could it be that we also think of her as so fashionable because of how beautiful she was? She has a very classical and unique beauty. Carolyn without doubt knew how to dress for herself. But just a thought if her beauty contributes to our admiration for her style?
@Ikright0 Yes, beauty definitely contributes to her style’s popularity. She fit the beauty standard of that time being a tall skinny blonde. However, pretty and slim women are a dime in a dozen - it takes individuality and a strong sense of character to stand out, and even amongst a sea of tall skinny blondes she was able to set herself apart.
This so eloquently addresses yet another thing that bothers me so much about “Emily in Paris.”
I really enjoyed this video and have appreciated your previous uploads. You have such a natural, eloquent way of getting your point across-clear, thoughtful, and persuasive. Carolyn truly is a fashion hero for all of us. Again excellent work!
@@uniuser2003 Thank you so much, appreciate the feedback and support! ❤️
Thank you! Now that was the best about classic and effortless style for life, of our America princess Caroyln Bessette-Kennedy.❤
An effortless look never is.
@@maureenogorman8740 Thank you! It's nice to know the real Classic Lady still exist. @maureenogorman8740❤
In all fairness, Sharon Stone wore the white mens’ shirt with a black skirt to a formal occasion before Carolyn did.
It was actually a silver satin skirt,,, but yes.
Yeah.. I spent all last winter working litigation in Dallas.. I would ride the train from Fort Worth to Dallas every morning and I have this gorgeous Calvin Klein coat and I styled myself with her in mind.. riding through the winter desert doing insane litigation work was a whole vibe and mood..
His friends even wrote about her having a Coke habit, and her ex wrote a book that they were sleeping together even after the marriage. And that she had two or three abortions. And that she was a nutcase.
Comparing CBK to Mona Lisa is on point. I always hoped that she would have had more agency if she had lived.
@@tygressblade It really is such a tragedy she passed during her prime. She had so much potential.
I've enjoyed your video but I'm not really sure if you're saying that she created minimalism or that she just participated in minimalism in the 90s and she did it in a very good way. I tend to think it was the latter. I will say that she didn't know who she was at all because she actually was a nobody from beginning to end. So what she did is she took her cocaine so that she could become very thin ,which you can see if you look at pictures when she was young and in college , and then she created the illusion of effortlessness. She spent a lot of time doing that, maybe hours upon hours of creating an outfit and making the outfit fit her perfectly with a tailor probably at her beck and call. Then stepping out with her beautiful boyfriend and later husband. If you look at her features, you can see just how ugly she was with a huge pointy nose; downward turning eyes and thin lips on a very large mouth that exposed her teeth completely when she smiled. But she knew how by minimalizing everything --which was the Zeitgeist at that time-- and spending hours to perfect her hair color; her skin color and her outfit she would shine. I wish she actually had a personality because then they would not have been breaking up which is what they were doing at the time that the plane dove into the sea and they died. She said to her husband: we waited til your mother died to marry and we will wait till my mother dies to divorce. That was highly unfortunate because John Junior would be alive now if he had been able to divorce her before that infamous plane crash. She was a coje head and she had the personality that went with it, meaning fighting constantly with her husband, driving him completely crazy such that he couldn't live with her in the last months of her and his life. I will say though she did perfect the minalmist look and she had the height and thru her use of cocaine, she had the thinness of a model such that she could pull it off. BTW u said she was unfairhful. With whom was she unfaithful?
@@LadyBug1967 She definitely did not invent minimalism but made it her own staple which probably resonated with the everyday woman at that time and now. I think she made everyday dressing easier for a lot of us - going out, running errands, going to work etc. She was quite relatable in that sense. I can’t speak about her alleged cocaine addiction as I haven’t read anything surrounding that, but cocaine in the 90s was quite prevalent, the Kate Moss skinny anorexic look was very popular so girls would resort to cocaine in order to attain that look, so I would imagine if she had a substance issue it would be due to her environment, especially in NYC; it’s likely that JFK junior also had his fair share of cocaine given the circles they run in. As for her looks, beauty is subjective but as I mentioned in the video, a lot of women at that time did not believe she was attractive enough to be with JFK but looks aren’t everything and it’s not a condition we should foist upon women to date rich attractive men. She knew how to dress and present herself which the average woman can relate to and emulate. I think she did have a personality, maybe just not one we could see in the public eye, and many sources have said she was a very charming charismatic woman. In terms of their marriage, no one really knows what goes on in a marriage, especially with a couple as private as them. I don’t think it’s fair to blame the woman for picking fights and creating drama, many ‘difficult’ women are simply ones who stand their ground and it seems to me that she was someone who would stand up for herself. Their marriage drew a lot of attention and they were constantly hounded by the press which was said to have put a huge toll on her and strain on the marriage. There were rumours of her alleged infidelity with an ex-boyfriend who spoke about his affair with her during her marriage to JFK, but it was never confirmed. Some have even said they were both unfaithful towards the end of their marriage, but we will never know for sure. I believe she did have a strong character, it takes a lot of self-confidence to be with someone like JFK, and I think there are subtle indications during the span of her life which tell us this, is my point.
JFK shouldn’t have been a pilot, he was self centered and lacked self control. He was a terrible person married to a terrible person.
Wow , I thought this comment was written by a man....
I do think she was pretty. She had a very unique beauty and the plastic surgery wasnt as popular as now. So we are overexposed by the same face in hollywood: small nose, plump lips, big eyes, thic brows and strong jawline, prominent cheeks. Maybe that's why you believe her to be not as attractive. Todays standards of beauty differ from the one's in the 90s. Unique beauty can be underestimated just because someone doesn't fit into an instagram face trend, which is so prevalent nowadays.
It’s so silly, but I can’t believe I never realized CBK was no longer living! I just assumed she disappeared from public life by choice 😢
What?????
You've got to be kidding!!
@@stephaniegerber8368 uh, why are you so surprised? Are you clued into the lives of every 90s socialite from another country?
Style and substance in fashion. Style is very much of the moment of this time. It is a spirit of this time and only this time AKA Zeitgest. In five years it Style will be over. substance is type timeless fashion which is closer to fine art. High quality at every level from pattern cut , fabrication to durable fabric, they made by savvy makers for the customer for the educated middle class to upper class. Many of the makers pattern cutter and sewer have long since gone with them the knowledge and passion die with. The problem you face is not an uncommon one in wrong size, this is the fact no one know or rather ignore about US, UK and French sizes in Miss , women and half size. As for the row fashion although noble they lack a great patternmaker and tailor . They using FIT student for technical back fill and it shows. Film and film making., Martin Scorsese was part powerful group of young filmmaker during 1960's which consist of Coppola , Lucas , Spielberg. They learn together from the Japanese Master superstar filmmaker Akira Kurosawa.. Here a filmmaker had style and substance that set the bench for the young filmmakers. You should check out a movie Runaway train release 1985 with Jon Voight that Kurosawa wrote the script for. Oh Star War was heavy base on Kurosawa Hidden Fortress.
"Fairly obscure street Saville Row" was the funniest thing 😂😂 I have heard in a long time to describe the most famous fashion street in the world that almost everyone is aware of.
i can't believe u called Savile Row an obsecure street
Jil Sander. Jil Sander. She walked so The Row could run. Jil Sander queen of minimalism. Mother of the twins
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Thanks for a really lovely video. ✨
Love The Row. It's so practical in a way that you can mix it with different colors and styles. So good. Not to mention it saves you money.
That's a well constructed video, good job. But my criticism lie on some hyperbolies and are more... theoretical in nature. I think your stances in some cases are kind of a reach. Let's face it, due to fashion's insanely consumerist, classist, pretentious, vain nature as well as an honestly, compared to other arts, insanely high pollution to usefullness ratio, it's the most superficial "artform". You generalize with terms like high fashion, when 99% of high fashion is guilty for the same "crimes" to art and nature as high street, albiet often on a smaller scale. Fashion is not cinema, photography or music and it will never be, as much as i find a level of interest in it. Fashion is expression yes, fashion has a vision.. yes sometimes..rarely honestly... usually its an afterthought (often seen in other arts too from my small connections to people in the arts). Fashion is interesting to explore, its history, its blatant issues and consequences as well as its role in communities, but it will never, ever, ever, be freed from its numerous problematic connotations. High fashion's biggest lie is the old tail of the artisan designer who puts love and care into every garment, the vision of which has been dead for almost a century now. Other art forms suffer from those issues as well , especialy in their mainstream side. But out of all, nothing can reach the pedestal of vanity and emptiness that fashion holds, and it's arguably the only art that actively takes part in damaging people's self esteem (wether we like it or not, we all judge people by their fashion choices and make assumptions, it's the first thing we see).
Its all branding, and naming dress makings brend by the best known tailoring guild in the world is exactly that, posturing, which is brending and in this case got nothing to do with any substance since tailoring and dress making are two distinct brenches of design and clothing craftsmpanship.
Agree, likewise, The Row isn’t closer to actual art - the attempt to create a parallel with auteur cinema is absurd- this brand doesn’t have more substance than any another fashion line- frankly, much of it rips off vintage Calvin Klein, Jil Sander, Donna Karan. This video seems to have been made by a 17 year old taking an AP art class.
12:45 What film/movie is this from??? Does anyone happen to know?
@@mcatherine36 Only Lovers Left Alive by Jim Jarmusch.
How does it have that potential when the first movie was a finished story?! It wouldn't exist were it not for the promise of that sweet financial success. It doesn't have any promise. The Godfather II was a part prequel. And on top of that a partial prequel a movie full of complex characters. What the prequel did is intertwine more of the backstory with further development of the next generation head of the family. there is a reason why the Godfather II always gets cited when discussing sequels. It's very unusual to have sequels that are as good or even better than the first movie. I'm not going to argue against Blade Runner 2049 because to each their own. But it's not as good as Blade Runner on the content/philosophy level.
@@justaname999 The first Godfather was also written to be a finished story. Michael Corleone’s arc was complete by the end of the first film. Godfather Part II was also made due to the first movie’s financial success; Paramount convinced Francis Ford Coppola to make Part II when he initially refused to. I don’t believe a ‘finished’ story or arc takes away the potential for a sequel - look at some other examples of films originally written to be standalone films but came out with superior sequels like Terminator or even Kung Fu Panda. And yes, it is unusual for a sequel/prequel to be good or better than the first; I did point out that the reason behind it is because of the further character development and backstory. Hence, my argument that if The Devil Wears Prada intends to make a good sequel it has to have those elements surrounding the existing characters. Disney will most probably squander it but it doesn’t mean there is no potential.
@@justaname999 exactly! All the characters had thier arch. Miranda will still be the boss from hell Emily Blunts character if still there 15 years on will still be stuck as she doesn't learn simping for the devil has the opposite effect Stanley toucci' character similarly would not have learned a damn thing if he hadn't moved on in 10+ years and have his own company Nate/Adrienne Greer- by now they either got together and are living happily back together or he's move on long ago with another girl Simon would be near geriatric so now wouldn't be a love interest - and wouldn't be one anyway since they already tried to close his story line as a cad And Andy... wasn't the whole point of the 1st movie she realized she needed to prioritize her values and grew up/rejected shallow fashion world? Like if she actually did why would she have anything to do with any of these people this for out in time. She'd either be a successful ✍️ or not. Godfather is a fing master piece bc each character is so complex like a real person you can learn from knowing more about them in the past and follow them into how they play into the future. It's also based on a long series of books to have that complexity. DWP does not have that complexity and thats what made it a cute happy rewatchable movie. Remember they tried to do a sequel Godfather III and it was absolutely horrible. Like so bad people still just drop it from thier memory!
@@polyseamous Godfather II was in parts based on the first novel, so the material *was* there. And even if it was fully freely invented, the material was *there* in the first film. The depth and complexity of relationships and characters. That depth isn't really there in the Devil Wears Prada. It's a fun movie to watch because it's a highly skilled comedy. Great over-the-top acting and fun one-liners. It was lucky that all of these people came together in the way they did and contributed their comedic timing to add to the films colorful background and decent story. But let's call it what it is. It's a nice little comedy film, not a masterclass of screenwriting. So even if Godfather II was in part a cash grab it is still one with lots of artistic substance to work off of. The substance isn't really there in DWP. It's an extremely well-acted comedy that, at its core, actually isn't that far away from stuff that we'd have watched in something like the Lizzie McGuire Movie as kids. That's not to say it's a bad film, at all!! It's a truly fun film that I like to rewatch when given the chance but there aren't extreme depths to plunge while keeping the tone of the original that actually made it fun.
@@justaname999 I think your argument stands on this premise that comedies are inherently to be taken less seriously than dramas, when some of the most complex and well-written stories and characters come from comedy. TDWP may not be on the same level as The Godfather (which I did point out) but it doesn’t mean it lacks depth and substance. The depth and substance simply comes in a different format. It has an overall lighthearted tone being a comedy but it has its moments of drama and severity. And I don’t think this difference matters because ultimately my point is to discuss how to make a good sequel using Godfather as an example as it has a well-known sequel. I’m not saying it has to be on the same level as The Godfather - it won’t - and it’s not the same genre. Ultimately good sequels come from added depth and concepts onto the pre-existing story and world created in the original, it can come in any format - even kids films. But I’m not basing my opinion on the idea that dramas are above other genres because it’s not and to purport this idea just minimises a lot of great movies. It’s akin to the commentary made in TDWP of how the fashion industry is always seen as less than other industries when the film actively tells you that you have to take it seriously to see its worth.
@@polyseamous Oh sorry, no, not at all! I would never claim that a comedy is inherently less complex or to be taken less seriously!! Sorry if that is what came across. I was making a point about TDWP specifically. It absolutely had its moments of more serious things happening but I still wouldn't classify it as particularly interesting or deep had it not been for the actors. The thing is, had they not lucked out with Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci, and Meryl Streep in the "supporting" roles, I doubt the movie would be as popular as it was, which would point to a screenplay that maybe needs that help. A comedy that can stand on its own might be decorated by amazing cast but its core is strong on its own. That's why I compared it to the Lizzie McGuire movie. Not to say it's "bad" but to draw the parallel to fairly "by the book, typical" fare. But to give a better example, maybe: I love watching You've Got Mail. Love it! But would I say it's a brilliant film? Probably not. It just has the leads' chemistry and charm, it has the fall in New York vibe, it has the incredibly well chosen soundtrack... The screenplay is witty and I love it because the cultural references are fun to me who was like 10 when it came out but I wouldn't call it an incredibly skilled screenplay. Something like Clueless, which is from the same(ish) time, on the other hand, I'd say has a stellar screenplay and does the Emma modernization in a clever and unique way. So even though all of these movies are movies from my childhood and teenage years, some of them I'd rate high purely on nostalgia points, while others have a truly great screenplay. (PS: see also "Tootsie" which is literally something they used to teach screenwriting in the 90s or early 2000s because it's so good. Also a comedy. So nothing "inherently" wrong with comedies ;) Just to make sure that comes across :))
No. Ffs. Stop making sequels, prequels etc. Just make some new stuff. They want to guarantee the turnout of the fans of the first film but are never willing to put the same effort to make the 2nd film as good as the first. This movie was made before the actresses became insufferable. Even if it was released today i would struggle to take Hathaway or Blunt seriously anymore knowing the stupid things they have said in interviews. Get some new talent and new stories. Enough of the franchise BS.
@@beddythecorgi4269 I definitely agree that originals should be left alone and I did point out that it is assumed what the producers’ true intentions are, especially it being in the hands of Disney who are known for their god awful movie franchises. It most probably will be abysmal but just wanted to discuss the possibility of it turning out decent as good sequels/prequels do exist - they are just extremely rare.
@@polyseamous the first movie was just all plot to tell a single story of growth of the main character. You know the sequel will create a whole series of woke tangential story line about race and lgbt+ which was one of the things I appreciated about the first movie. We all knew some characters were gay but they were treated and interacted like that wasn't thier whole identity bc the plot wasn't about some social justice messaging. There were minority and foreign characters but they interacted like normal people re the things they had in common. For example, her black friend wasn't made to feel like she was there to discuss white guilt or how the modeling industry didnt have enough representation, she just loved the freebie gifts and was a moral compass like a real friend would be. Like who in real life would even be friends with someone who goes on sjw rants constantly. That is how they killed the reboot to SITC. No one wants to see more of the characters. They don't make you laugh, they make you cringe. The characters in the original all reached thier character arch. You know it will suck bc its not using new characters and if Andy grew and moved on she wouldn't be back with this crowd. She'd be a real journalist.
@@beddythecorgi4269 The Godfather was also about the main character’s story of growth or rather moral decline in this case. Yes, it’s also about the family and their conflict with the other mafia families, but Michael’s fate is very much intertwined with that central plot and his evolution is a key theme. Much like how The Devil Wears Prada is about the fashion industry and fashion journalism but we see it through the eyes of the main character and Andy, like Michael, evolves to fit into the world they are thrust into. There will most likely be a lot of pandering to a woke audience which is lazy writing and will destroy what was great in the original, the fact that they don’t pander to minority groups for the sake of it. It’s why I said they should instead focus on making appropriate commentary about the changes and evolution of the fashion industry and fashion journalism, like the social commentary made in the original. I personally do not agree The Devil Wears Prada is simply a cute happy film. It can be seen as a comedy and the tone is relatively lighthearted, but there are stakes and consequences. Of course it’s not as serious and grim as The Godfather but that does not mean there are no comparable severe story and character arcs. I don’t think it helps to trivialise an impactful story just because it seemingly looks and feels more shallow when in fact, the reason many resonate with the story is due to the authenticity and accuracy of the social commentary.
@@beddythecorgi4269 Regarding Andy’s arc, it’s why I said she doesn’t serve to be in the second movie as she chose to leave the industry. And just because a character arc ends doesn’t mean there can be no further development, look at Michael Corleone in the second movie for instance. Hence why I think there can be further development for characters like Miranda, Emily and Nigel as long as it has depth and adds to the world constructed in the original.
If they can make it for super cheap, it might be something to see on a rainy day when it comes out on cable/streaming. This idea is just another name on a long list of movies no one asked for.
love your work!
Your videos are so beautifully curated
Love your quality content videos , waiting for next one
When quiet luxury or office-core is back, that means labels are sensing that recession is coming and consumers have become more careful with their spending. So, offering clothes that serve multiple purposes would still keep consumers interested in purchasing new clothes
Just like you mentioned, your video has substance. Very well created and written, also what i loved is versatility of the topics. Just know your voice is magic. Looking forward to your content :)
can you do a full video on Carolyn Bessette Kennedy?
Agreed
Yeah.. I come from a Pierce type family.. I’m one of the few that work. Lol
I thoroughly enjoyed watching and listening to this. You’re very eloquent. I love the Row clothing and I would be dressed in it all day everyday, but it’s exorbitantly expensive. It’s my aesthetic, but affording it is another question. The quality in almost all clothes now is sub par even the branded ones.
Love the Fenty beauty mention! Rihanna’s Fenty Beauty is so impressive not just because of consistent great products but also one of the main reasons we even have such a massive influx of female singers & other types of celebrities all of a sudden jumping into the beauty market in the first place. Fenty Beauty not only changed the beauty industry by it’s huge, diverse foundation shade offering (Now an industry standard), the company also made $580 million in its first 18 months of business It remains the most successful celebrity owned/founded beauty companies out there 🙌☕️
I am so glad I clicked on this video
I love The Row.
You'll go far, young lady.
Vb has improved. Still wouldn’t buy full price. Unfortunately everything is oversized for someone petite. Oddly even the smallest size is too big.
On Succession though, I find the notion that Shiv looks rich really strange. Even in corporate terms, she looks like a middle manager. Her clothes don’t have that magic touch, they aren’t cut for her body as well as they could be… I feel like they kind of dropped the ball with her wardrobe & style.
Capsule wardrobes started around 2019?? I was reading in magazines & online about capsule wardrobes at least 10 years before that (and it goes further back than that). It’s far from new. On Harpers’ assessment that you could pull these items out in 50 years: unfortunately, up and down the scale clothes are not made as well as they used to be, so even if you spend $$$ on them, that’s increasingly unlikely. The most sustainable & longterm way to buy ‘investment pieces’ is to buy them secondhand. But of course that doesn’t feed the main supply chain.
The Cinema-Fashion pipeline is something that I’ve always thought about but never would have thought to articulate it in the manner that you have. Clothes, fashion, style is much more significant to our society and culture than most people would have us believe. Certainly, purchasing expensive clothing, solely for the purpose of its being “expensive” is a shallow end for which to aim for. But, clothes has, historically speaking, always had a societal function. For Rituals and occasions, for displaying Wealth and Status, it communicates who you are and what you’re about to others, before meeting you. If I see someone wearing a hoodie, or a beanie, I could assume that they are “laidback”, if you’re wearing Louis Vuitton from head to toe, it could be assumed that they’re either someone well off, got a hold of their mother’s credit card (knew someone who was a pathological liar, who lived with their mom, who made good money working in the gas & oil industry who paid for everything for him since he was jobless or couldn’t hold down a job, although I realized later) or are knee deep in debt, if they’re in a suit, they could be someone who works within an Office Setting, etc. You are profiled by others and preconceived notions can and will be made about you, purely on the basis of your clothing. It is your very own advertising billboard. It’s the reason why, when criminals go to court, they’re so mindful about how they’re attired. It can make or break you. It can influence the decision whether you get hired for a job or not. It matters.
YOU KNOW HOW TO SPEAK THE THRUTH!!! Well done my lady, keep it going ❤