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Hi there! Yea it is nice at Trellis towers and I think it presents great value if you hit it at certain price range. However, the type of people buying Orie and Trellis are very different. As much as the value of trellis is evident, some others see value in newer properties. Like the lack of balcony could be an issue too. Everything is more “modern” and “brand new” so you will still have a group of ardent fans who values these factors beyond rationality since brick and mortar has always been rather an emotional decision beyond just numbers. I personally don’t like TPY at all. Hahaha. But still, I don’t and cannot speak for all. That’s why we just understand the key considerations and determine if there’s value in it or not. This key differences are also there along Tanjong Rhu road and Meyer road between the older and newer. 😭 I hope you get a good trellis tower! And merry christmas!

@ the balcony issue is a misperception as well. There is alot of hype about the balcony but in actuality most ppl don’t use it much or lounge there at all and at most it is a clothes hanging area. I lived in my parents place for 26 yrs at Serangoon gardens at we have 3 balconies at the semi-d. My neighbours also have balconies too and they NEVER ever use it.

@@shurakishi4707I think it is better for you to buy HDB which can save you a lot. Because without balcony condo is quite similar with HDB. As what I know, balcony is a important factors for many buyers to purchase condo

@@wszzz3391 really I think more of the space. Is not that i don’t need a balcony if i buy a condo. It’s less of a priority. Mother big balcony projects are also valued less because it eats into the space. So why would I focus so much on a balcony in a sale?

Hey guys! That’s exactly what I’m talking about. There’s no right no wrong to it. It is all down to preferences. I don’t like toa payoh doesn’t mean everyone doesn’t. I like balcony doesn’t mean everyone likes it too. It all boils down to individual preferences which can be quite subjective. It is useful for people who likes it but a waste of space for people who don’t. For purpose of the ORIE discussion, the consumer buying in the end will likely be the more modern crowd who fancies the balcony and newer facilities over the older ones who prefers more internal space in trellis. There’s always a market for everyone. 🙌🏻

Hello! Yes indeed the 4 bedrooms are good value for money but I think you can’t compete with EOK 4 bedroom premium if all else is equal. On its own, I think the 1335 Sqft presents good value and although the schools are likely absent from the 1 km radius, it’s shouldn’t be a deal breaker eventually as not everyone buys for school. The Nava grove finishing is also 🔥 though

@pocketviewsg i agree. Just that EOK was sooo oversubscrided! Got money also cannot buy. Hahah. And 1km rule. I agree with you. And also, rule keep changing. If u r holding for long term, God knows what is the rule going to be like then. Haha.

@ethantham852 Yes! Ballot number was key. Haha. As of now, based on current inventory left, Nava 4 bedrooms and up still has pretty good value if the consumer can see it for what it is. But then again, most locals are trained to look at it from a narrow vision only. (MUST have MRT). Haha.

@pocketviewsg lifestyle preference is important isn't it. 11 mins bus ride from outside nava grove brings u to clementi mrt. In exchange, u get some exclusivity and serenity. While Chuan Park and EOK have mrt near enough, the small roads around it means it could really be a busy area. Katong area is so busy too. I can't come home to that. Haha

I concur. 👍

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Hi Malcolm. Absolutely right. Nobody can ever time the market. However, getting the right property makes a lot of difference. 🫣 Have a nice day

Hello Junjun! Technically speaking it’s not cheaper as the psf is even higher but due to harmonization, the absolutely price tag is generally lower. For both, you can also say that not all bedroom category type is cheaper too. Like Nava grove 2 + study and 4 bedder with private lift are mostly higher. But yes both represents a very good deal for buyers. On the other end of the spectrum, you also have some of the buyers paying 2700-2800 psf for EOK. Is that a right price or is that much closer to future price? Like every other development, I believe 30-40% of the crowd got a good price. The rest got a fairly decent price and some “too high” a price.

@@pocketviewsgwhat do you think of developers who purposely undercut adjacent developments. Is it ethical? While they can bid low, they shouldn’t sell low. Now ppl are scared. When there is a new GLS plot adjacent, ppl are scared. Will the next GLS plot be lowball and developer launch at prices lower than the previous year prices?

It’s not really called undercutting. It’s a willing seller willing buyer market. Once the price hits a certain threshold lower , government will intervene to reject the bid just like what they did for numerous plots this year. It is also the governments job to monitor these bids so that it promotes sustainable growth rather than see it dropping in such manner. That’s why even though sim lian got the land way cheaper, it still managed to sell at an average psf higher or if not the same with the likes of TG or GD. Same goes for Nava grove. In fact MCL land got it just slightly cheaper than PTH so with the harmonization effect into place, the price point was meant to be the same. Thats why entry level will decide if the buyers got a good price or not, beyond determining whether Nava grove as a whole can be classified as a “good buy” or not.

@@pocketviewsgbut those that bought tg and pinetreehill poor thing though… especially tg (coz got fooled for kwonghwa) if nava turnout to have 1km from henry park, then pinetreehill owner can cry also. I still feel that to be fair to tg and pth buyers, maybe nava and eok can be priced abit higher. I empathise with pth and tg buyers. Hope they can still make a bit of money and wont be bogged down by nava and eok resale sellers

@junjun906 Actually having Henry park is a good thing but it might not be a deal breaker in time to come. You expect a decent % to be looking at it from school perspective but most of them don’t! So even if NAVA is not within 1km to HPPS, it’s a loss but the entry level will still decide its fate. I’m a Pinetree owner. Did I expect Nava to launch higher? Definitely. But given how the developers priced its unit, I’m not too worried as my entry level is on the lower end of these developments. Only those who bought the premium stacks at PTH that might be a little more worried. Time will tell!

Hello! TBH the price is nothing like Chuan park. In fact it launched closer to 2300-2400 psf. Serious developer wanting to sell their units. 👍 did you managed to get yours? Please just avoid dual key

I think the increase is a “normal” thing. What wasn’t cool was that the price was far off the guide price and feels like a bait to lure them in. As much as their track record wasn’t the best, Normanton park was okay! So let’s hope they are doing better 🔥

@@pocketviewsg from the history , you can tell or determine a person whether good or not , similarly to developer , normanton park is very good quality but it’s under special condition. I have no doubt about Kingsford ‘s capabilities, normanton park already proven Kingsford developer can do the job very well ! I just a bit lack of confidence about whether they wanna to do a good job or do tricky Things instead. Of course , I hope they can deliver a good work and I wish all the investor Huat ! Including me , thank u very much .

Did not. I think it’s good and absolutely love it but from an investment point of view, the other two still stands out for me if the prices are equal. At the moment given we understand how Chuan park prices are, then it’s a good fight between EOK and Nava. If you are going for Nava, it is solid! Please go for it if the prices are not as crazy as Chuan. Not many can appreciate it because they base their criteria on MRT as a barometer. 💪

Chuan park 2 + S ended up to be around $1.85-1.95m so if Emerald sells below $1.8m averagely then I think it’s still okay. Although I still hope that the $1.6xm guide price wouldn’t be for a one off unit type like Chuan. Also, Chuan park selling well has two sides of the coin for you to look at. 1) Selling well means Chuan park has captured a substantial share of the market so EOK might be worried about pricing themselves out. 2) Chuan park high prices might force a lot of investors to flock to EOK. We won’t know how this would pan out but time will tell.. and that time is sat. Haha.

@@pocketviewsg there are about 3k cheques received for EOK. Means EOK likely no lack of buyers. Chances are Sim Lian may not price EOK cheap even though sim Lian has reputation of not overpricing their product. Well, let’s watch the show. 😁

EOK will have no lack of buyers for sure. Haha. Only question that beckons is… will they do a Chuan park? 😅 btw how come you know 3000 ah? They haven tally yet but a gross estimation is that we are not that far away

You are right. Absolutely. I did this video with just the guide prices. If this video was done after, the content is gonna be VASTLY different. However the argument will be like “but 75% of it was sold, they can’t be wrong”? It’s gonna come! 😅

@@pocketviewsg FOMO lor. early buyers see, wah 2800 cheque! "if i dont buy somebody else gonna buy!" late buyers "wah so many units sold! must be good! buy!" kingsford marketing done well, give click baity indicative, ramp up the interest with news stating 10k visitors to the show room. really only advantage is MRT, dont even have good pri sch. buyers buying at 2500-2600psf , need to exit at 2800-3000psf for decent profits. can or not? we will know in 3 years lol. really overpriced psf for a pre harmonization project. well done kingsford!

Yes at $2.6k psf people can also consider a nearby resale, most are cheaper and some are even freehold (eg Amaranda Gardens) which long run will have better prospects. No?

I can’t help but to agree 😅

Thank you very much for the kind words 🙏

Thank you 🙏

Hey! Thanks! Sorry let me put out a POFMA correction notice. Hahaha. Had to rush this out and missed this crucial error. Thanks for highlighting!

Shag. 😅

@@chinminghao9192 the higher floor 2b are at 1.9xmil. 😂

Makes eok look absolutely cheap.

Hello there Mr/mrs angsty, I don’t quite understand your concern about “$1.2m is consider as budget” Can you elaborate❗️❗️❗️

Hello there and thanks for the kind words. 😃 To start off first, I’m someone who is against the idea of dual key units. There’s two sides of the coin to look at. 1) Given you might need only 2 bedrooms and the other 1 bedroom can be rented out to help you loosen the load on your mortgage, it makes sense from that angle financially. 2) Beyond what I have mentioned above, the future value seems to not side the dual key units as the end users probably have to be someone who is thinking like what you are thinking at the moment and plan to rinse repeat what you do for point 1. From that perspective alone, the beauty and value of PC will likely come from end users getting one for their very own use and not just from a cash flow perspective but also from an emotional angle. For this they will absolutely not accept the dual key units as it’s not the kind of layout that is easy to play around with even if you plan to spend some money on renovation. When majority of the people shuns a certain layout, then the value will be a worry. In conclusion, buy it if you really have to but don’t overpay as compared to the normal unit types. It’s going to come behind a regular unit. 3 dual keys tend not to perform as well. Please buy the normal 3 if you can. 🙏

Hello! Unfortunately. It is not all. Nothing is for certain at the moment as to how many of them are under 1 km. 😭

Hello! Thanks for the kind words. If you are prepared to pay 2300 psf for the 3 bedrooms there now. I’m pretty sure you are being 80% emotional and 20% sensible. Haha. 2300 psf doesn’t give you as much buffer against the upcoming GLS at Clementi and even the surrounding properties in the neighborhood. There are times like this that you are probably better off renting than buying. Then make sure whatever you buy helps cover your “emotional” decision of living in Parc clematis. That would be the more sensible approach accounting the emotional part of it. You can always rent where you live and rent out where you buy. Do check out my video on Emerald being my new launch pick of 2H2024. I think if the price is right, it is going to be much better than Chuan park IMHO. Will be releasing another video soon on that alongside floor plans and artist impressions. Hopefully it helps! Stay “safe” out there while property prices are at current levels. 💪

Hello! I’m not sure about the situation at Sherwood but I know Pine Groves fate is not in their own hands. The plot is too big for developers to digest given the restrictions that are imposed on them in regards to ABSD deadlines and another is, there’s quite abit of competition going on now between Pinetree And Nava grove. Sales are moving very slowly for the former and should be the same for the latter. This will definitely not give developers the confidence to take on the risk. Hence it’s going to be a tad challenging in my honest opinion.

Thanks! Spot on. Can I pin your comment to add on to my video? Haha. To add on. RGPS is just about one of the only schools that doesn’t need balloting at the early phases and even up to phase 2C, unless you stay beyond 2km. Typically the fall back option.

Yes! Correct. I posted an apology in my comments on the error stating Continuum as a leasehold on the infographic. You got some eagle eyes!

Absolutely. There’s a chance it will go up in tandem but… if you noticed the benchmark for a terrace hasn’t changed since 2021 yet the rest of the mass market condos are hitting higher numbers. The same might not happen for sure but if there is, then a 3 cycle approach would be more necessary than a 2. 🫡

Oi. Busted. 😅

Hi there! Congrats on your imminent retirement 😃 Based on whatever you have mentioned, buying a landed to live in might not serve the purpose required because a bulk of your equity, cash and cpf gets locked into the asset. In that way, you are living in one of the best asset class but that is just about it. You are just asset rich. Yes the value of the landed might rise faster than most but it’s money you will not see until you cash out. On the surface without understanding more details, I would suggest fully paying a 3 bedroom at a location that you so desire, and get another 3 bedroom minimally to generate the passive income you are hoping to under a $2m + $2m allocation accordingly. In this way, you get to shake your legs at home comfortably while collecting your well deserved dues for all your hard work. 😃

@@pocketviewsg if I buy a landed can I take up a home equity loan and use the loan to buy secured government bonds and I earn the spread. That way I will have monthly income.

You can do that but when you do that you are betting on the bonds or whatever financial products you are getting outpacing the cost on equity term loan. Is that financial viable? It is the kind of advise more suited to be given by a financial planner or a private banker. Also you might have missed the point that you might quickly reach a point where the climbing up and down of a landed property be too much in a few years time. Unless you have got a lift, that will be a likely problem coming back to you very quickly. So you should really sit down to have a look at your two properties to see if it’s best to keep them both and remain status quo or do you relook into their potential and make some changes. Just food for thought!

Hello Victor! You are right. When the market moves, the landed market moves in tandem. Let’s talk about a terrace about 15 years back, it should cost around $2.7-2.8m and today it has risen to an approx $1million higher which means close to another $300k in downpayment is required for the excess and the stamp duty payable. 3 proper cycles would sort this out realistically even if our benchmark of $4m climbs to $5m. It’s almost likely that 3 cycles are required for a household that purchases a BTO right at the start though. 👍

Continuum is within 1km of Kong Hwa Sch whereas this is not.

Spot on. Have mentioned that we are not within 1km of Kong Hwa 👌

Hello Jason! As much as the 3 bedroom premium is just an extra maids room and maids bathroom, the layout is generally different as the larger one comes in a landscape layout. Given price is not that far apart, a 3 bedroom premium will always be the go to unit on the longer run as the minor difference in utility and WC makes a lot of difference for families with kids. The lack of maids room in the 3 compact will push a lot of families who has a helper away. That’s why you notice theres a huge contrasting differences between the inventories for sale for the 1044 Sqft and the 3 compact units. Hence if the premium is on the lower end of between $200-350k, I would pick the 3 premium anytime for its resale value in time to come and if you actually do get a chance, I feel that the 1076 Sqft is the BEST layout and is an upgrade to the 1044 Sqft (just work backwards on how the extra bedroom space will mean to future buyers). Also, I think it will need quite a shift for it to move another 20% in the shorter term. In the longer term, that is still possible but the duration required to achieve that will be vastly different from when we got it first hand from developers. Lastly, I’m pretty sure we will reach that point in time that $2.7-2.9m would look like today’s $2.3-2.4m. So I’m not worried on that. If there’s any development that might achieve that, I think PC will be one of the few. It’s just that good. From an OCR upgraders point of view.

Hi there! At the moment, Lentor has abit too much supply as the government are not exactly phasing the development of the neighborhood. But when the dust is settled, I believe the supply numbers are just fine and that like every area in Singapore, the good ones will stand out and the bad ones will not hence I’m very selective on what to get at Lentor and can’t exactly say all can buy. 😃

Hello! Yes. With the obvious benefit of having an additional study that can doubles up as a utility room and store room, the 2 + S functions as a hybrid between the 2 bedroom 2 bath and the 3 compact. If you ask everyone this question, all will prefer the larger unit because who wouldn’t? Hence if it’s me, the tipping point would be to be clear on exactly how much premium is required for the additional study. Let’s draw a hypothetical example, if the difference is $200-300k for a study I would put my money on the normal 2 bedroom as the gap shouldn’t be so wide for that little extra space. If the gap is around $100k there about then I will pick the former 2 + study. Then once we establish what we really want to get, we can then compare between the premium paid for the landed facing versus the pool/expressways. If the sizes are like for like, then a reasonable difference in view would be between $50-100k. This is just me giving you generic overview of how I would value these premiums but it’s really down to comparisons between EXACT units for sale at any given moment. There’s a lot more to look at to evaluate. Hope this helps slightly!

Thanks bro! This is actually a good dilemma but may I ask if it’s more for investment or for own use? I’m assuming more for investment as both products are worlds apart in terms of locale. If the question is based on this two, then I’ll lean towards affinity as much as I rate PC way way way higher. Haha. It’s an amplified version of a 2 bedroom but 3 bedroom is still a 3 bedroom and that entry level of under $1.5m is quite hard to come by. This is from an investment point of view. Bad Feng Shui or bad view should be relative to the price you pay. So if you are getting a big discount for it, then it’s still safe. On a side note, before I can really give some alternative recommendations, it is hard to do so without understanding more from you in regards to your priorities. 😃 Tell me more!

@@pocketviewsg Hi Clinton, thanks for the prompt reply! We are actually looking for ownstay/investment property. May I ask: 1. Generally how much discount does it make sense to compensate for all the flaws? 2. Does it make sense if this is only a 3br compact as family would prefer normal 3br for more space?

No worries! Ok. I’m releasing a new video tonight that talks about the price premium one had for a high floor versus a low floor and turned out that the lower floor one made more money. Stay tune! On a lighter note, if the low floor is about $1.5m and the higher floor is about $1.7m. Then the gap is too wide for it being a lousier unit. Then what I will compare with is the 850 Sqft versus the much larger 3 bedroom 9xx sqft to see if the layout and size difference is worth the premium or not. All in all, I can then make assumption that the 850 Sqft (even though smaller) is actually more efficient and if you are paying way lesser than the 9xx sqft, that becomes a safe buffer. So yes. I will look at layout. Facing. Pricing. And even include neighboring 3 bedrooms to get a good gauge on resale value in the future. Lastly, does it make sense to buy a 3 bedroom compact? Yes it does! I bought a 3 compact at PTH too. The logic is very simple. Everyone WANTS the largest unit. That goes without saying. But can everyone afford it? Answer is no. Hence what attracts you now is what is gonna attract future buyers and that is the entry level. 3 bedroom under $1.5m these days are quite hard to come by especially for sub sale units. So the value can come from the fact that you are really hitting the lowest hanging fruit in the entire island. Thats the reason why I would pick this over PC 2 bedroom anytime even though I will enjoy my stay better at PC. So you gotta balance the two! If you have more questions, feel free to reach me via WhatsApp. 🤘

Yes bro! That is how much a 3 bedroom property in the outskirts cost in Singapore.

THESE PROPERTY AGENTS ARE THE REALLY CULPRITS PUSHING PEOPLE TO BUY MORE EXPENSIVE PROPERTIES SO THEY CAN EARN BIG COMMISSIONS OUT FROM YOU THE BUYERS ❗️❗️❗️ THIS GIMMICKS MUST STOP ❗️❗️❗️❗️

Hello! I actually did compare with other prominent resale ones at Clementi. 👌

Hello! I think the GLS at champion way will really change the dynamic of how the north region prices will move in the next few years. So everyone will benefit if you don’t overpay. But for northwave, I would like to think that your competition is more with Brownstone + visionaire + sky park + Parc life than the rest of woodlands properties. Although it’s located on woodlands road, it’s actually closer to semabwang and Canberra. It’s already hitting 1300 psf though.

Thanks for your sharing! Agree that very likely ChampionWay will very fast further lift up the entire Woodlands pricing as a catalyst. True that those named condos are nearer competitors. Just that they MOP earlier so prices ald appreciated for desired the lower entry price. Hence I guess for budget deal buyers, at least one thing we can still have upper hand is locking it in soonest while newer Northwave just MOP for the maximum appreciation in 3 to 5 years time. Overall all good pointers in the video!

Hi there! What would be the reason of such drop?

@@pocketviewsg tenants , esp Malaysians all shifting to JB to stay .

To be honest, even without RTS. Woodlands already has a higher demography of Malaysia citizens. Don’t see it affecting prices in this manner as ultimately, the crowd buying for own use is what matters. Since locals are the majority here, dont sweat on the minority. 🫡

RTS is not free right? You don't expect to see Singapore MRT ticket price on RTS.

Thank you!

Anytime man!

Hello there! It is fine! Fine only if you get it at the right price. Otherwise if you start to pay a premium for a better facing, you might be too close to a 2 bed 2 bath pricing. Then its either you are paying too much or the 2 bedroom 2 bath is cheaper. All the best!,

Hello there! Thank you for your kind words. Long story short, just buy a larger unit. Don’t force yourself to settle for something lesser just to accommodate another property. It’s no longer the era of owning multiple properties. I mean it’s good to own multiple GOOD properties but if it means sacrificing quality to fit quantity and you buy a 1 bedded room for investment, I rather you do nothing and keep cash. Haha. 1 bedroom these days are notoriously “bad” investment that doesn’t yield you the same type of returns as the larger units. And with high interest rates, your rental game is non existent at the moment. Consolidate and buy a proper solid 3 bedrooms. You will not regret. Then when the time comes, you can start considering either upgrading again or decoupling to buy another 2-3 bedrooms at least. Lastly, Parc clematis is nice! But if you really have to make me choose, I will still buy a 3 bedroom in the OCR region. Hundred palms has Rosyth though! Getting in is a different question altogether. Haha. But what type of 3 bedrooms and at what price is also another conundrum 😅 Don’t forget that the EC ones you have mentioned have benefited from the “covid” effect and most of the OCR 3 bedrooms in similar range also made solid returns hence it’s hard to distinguish between all of them. EC mop is actually nothing to shy away from especially if the layouts and prices are comfortable. So yes I will buy a 3 bedroom in a heart beat. Where exactly depends on your preference for location too even though you might say that anywhere works. 🫣

Hello! You know the unique thing about landed is every house is valued differently unlike condo or apartments. So my advise would be to just pick the right landed without over paying. As to what exactly is over paying or underpaying, we got to recognize the market acceptance for different type of houses. As an example, a run down terrace now cost between $3-3.3m and a 2 level contemporary house is somewhere between $3.8-$4m. If we bump into an owner asking $4m for a run down house, is it the right time or unit to buy? I doubt it. Hence understanding what the markets are digesting for different types of houses are key to making an informed decision. We can bring it offline or pm me if you wish to understand more. Have a nice weekend!

Hello! I think they are both good on their own merits but they are no Parc clematis. 🫢 However I understand some might not like the crowd there though and designs are always very subjective. All that has stepped foot into the development are all in awe hence the opinion.

Well let’s just say things ain’t rosy at the CBD. 😅

Ok great! Got exactly what I intended to do for the video then. Haha. Happy CNY.

Hello! I did a full reno. Too broke for a rebuild 🤭

@@pocketviewsghow much did it cost roughly?

All in approx $300k.

@@pocketviewsg thanks! Did u replace the gate or hack walls for full length windows / glass panels?

@Luvmafammie Retained the gate from previous owner! Oh waterproofing cost me a bomb though! Didn’t had that in my budgeting but it was the first item that needed attention. 😅

Bro. I totally concur with you but… I already waited close to 12 months. Changing vendor and getting it again would require another 8 months at the minimum. It staying empty and paying installments while paying rent will kill me bro. 😅

Thank you! 🙏

Hello! You try telling that to me wife. 😄

Too much space for a needy family of four. Haha.

Hello! Is there a high number of units returned for PTH? Not that I know of though. In fact if my memory doesn’t serve me wrongly, there were more bounced out units 3 weeks after the launch at GD.

Actually if it’s the choice is between TC or GD, I would pick none. 🫣 As much as I’m an east coast person, somehow or rather the two seems like it has its cons more than it’s pros. The issue I have with Continuum is that it feels more D14 than D15, more Paya lebar than east coast. You know what I mean? Designs are amazing but most of them are blocked. Hence I waited till PTH to come out. And I never felt more safe. Haha.

@@pocketviewsg for me I won’t be picking PTH because of its limited accessibility to nearby amenities and mrt. It’s only draw factor is Henry park but that said, TC/GD is also near to 3 good primary schools within 1km. As least, GD/TC is more accessible to nearby amenities and mrt plus TC being FH with better layout and has price very close to nearby LH. The current sales for PTH is quite lukewarm and only sold at about 36%. In terms of absolute numbers sold, PTH only sold 188 units, GD sold 619 units and TC sold 312 units. Despite the oversupply in D15, their sales in terms of % or absolute number r still better compared to PTH. I can’t imagine if the plot next to PTH is launched, likely the sales will be even worse given PTH was already not doing well as a first launcher. Of coz we can agree to disagree. 😁 That said, whoever choose GD/TC or PTH, it still boils down to entry price.

Thanks for the detailed analysis. What are your thoughts on 3+1 in GD facing the landed enclave, mid to high floor? Is the price of approx $3.05m worth entering into for d15? I am torn as i can buy one amber for about the same price. Personally, i prefer GD as a location. In your view, which may have better capital appreciation and easier exit strategy in a 10 year horizon? Thanks!

Realized I missed your reply! You are 100% right on TC and GD. Schools. The location. The everything. It kicks PTH in the butt. But what PTH more than makes up for the obvious flaw, amenities/mrt. I personally do not look at it from just a buying perspective. I look at it from an end user point of view in about 4/5 years down the road. Who buys PTH and why? Are they the typical mass market crowd that values amenities and MRT? Then for one familiar with the mount sinai area would know the occupants there are not drawn by that convenience. So not having a MRT doesn’t concern me one bit. Remember, good sales figure doesn’t translate to better profits. Bad sales figure doesn’t mean you earn lesser too. Treasure Tampines or Florence are fine examples. I will be doing a video soon on why I think the bulk of J DEN owners might be in trouble even with its strong sales. The market right now is so pampered by convenience, that’s why the holy trinity of GD, TC AND TG has been doing well. But my problem with GD is not the location or anything else. My problem is with the quality of the product. There’s something about it that shouts mass market but charging high end prices. And you are right again. Entry level matters above all else. I look at it from many angles and then realize that the potential is with the PTH 3 compact unit and it was an easy decision. The bad sales figure also doesn’t bother me. In fact I would secretly hope that the developers take longer to sell. Why? They are a business entity. Their focus right now is to offload units as much as possible so they might throw in some discounts here and there. But there will be a point of time when they start to not panic as much and adjust the price upwards as the construction stages progress. They are ultimately in the business of making money. The discounts they throw now will be taken back somewhere down the road. I am counting on that. All in all, it was a culmination of various reasons that made it clear my money was with PTH. Time will tell if I’m wrong but I hope we can remember to circle back to this thread to have a good laugh or cry about it. 🤭

Hey Cheryl! Thanks for taking time to reply here! I think the first question I’m gonna ask is whether there’s going to be any own stay element in this thought process? That kinda is a deal breaker for most people and is also the most confusing part. Haha. Hard to invest in something you would like to live in. On the longer run of about 10 years and if you are spoilt for choices, then I personally think One Amber/Esta or Belvedere might be a better option at that price range. In fact they wouldn’t cost so much if you just wait around. But they are much much older and has their flaws too. One amber surroundings are rather claustrophobic while Belvedere is a relatively smaller and “boring” development. On a shorter run, I would lean towards GD. Everything about it with the exception of how it is being built is great. Super convenient. Good location. Good view. Very efficient layout too. Why is there a difference in choices for the shorter and longer term? A property like GD has that usual upwards trajectory in the initial phase. It then kinda stabilize and stagnate for a period of time. Freehold properties do not run that quickly at the start but as time goes.. the money will still be there given the scarcity of such properties. I always use the example of earning $500k in 3 years is not the same as earning $700k in 10 years. So my ultimate advise would be to ask yourself if the property you are getting makes you want to call it home or not. Because there’s no point buying something that you hate even though it might be the most sensible move. With that being said, 10 years both also confirm make money la. 😅 guarantee. They are all good to go. Go with your heart.