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Trinity Church Boston
Приєднався 10 чер 2009
Dynamic, historic Episcopal church open to all.
Worship: Summer Sundays at 9 am and 5 pm. 9 am includes an in-person children's homily and is livestreamed to trinitychurchboston.org/live-worship
Tours: Tuesday through Saturday - 10 am to 5 pm with the last ticket sold at 4:30 pm. Learn more at trinitychurchboston.org/visit/tours
Our Statement of Affirmation: Trinity Church in the City of Boston is a congregation of the Episcopal Diocese of Massachusetts and welcomes and honors everyone. In accordance with our baptismal covenant, we affirm the inherent worth and dignity of every person. We strive to include all persons without regard to sexual orientation, race, nationality, gender, family configuration, ethnic background, economic circumstances, difference in ability, culture, or age. Our love and acceptance of each other embody our commitment to unity with God and each other in Christ.
Worship: Summer Sundays at 9 am and 5 pm. 9 am includes an in-person children's homily and is livestreamed to trinitychurchboston.org/live-worship
Tours: Tuesday through Saturday - 10 am to 5 pm with the last ticket sold at 4:30 pm. Learn more at trinitychurchboston.org/visit/tours
Our Statement of Affirmation: Trinity Church in the City of Boston is a congregation of the Episcopal Diocese of Massachusetts and welcomes and honors everyone. In accordance with our baptismal covenant, we affirm the inherent worth and dignity of every person. We strive to include all persons without regard to sexual orientation, race, nationality, gender, family configuration, ethnic background, economic circumstances, difference in ability, culture, or age. Our love and acceptance of each other embody our commitment to unity with God and each other in Christ.
Whoever Is Not Against Us Is For Us • Sermon, Sun., September 29, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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A Vital, Embodied Faith • Sermon, Sun., Sept. 22, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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Held in Common • Sermon, Sun., September 15, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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Hurricanes, Rivers, and Crumbs… • Sermon, Sun., September 8, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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A Love Poem Like No Other • Sermon, Sun., Sept. 1, from Trinity Church Boston
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Sometimes the Bread Isn't Just Bread • Sermon, Sun., August 25, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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Even those who walk away from Jesus in today’s gospel-those who just cannot with the metaphor of flesh and blood and are not ready to ‘dig in’-notice John’s language here for the people: they are still disciples. As they walk away from Jesus, they are still disciples. They, we, are still loved even when the cost seems too great for the return, and we discover that our risk aversion leads us to ...
Choir Camp, Croissants, and Practicing the Love of God • Sermon, Sun., Aug., 18, 2024
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This week we reflect on God's patience with us, constantly reminding us that while we might be inclined to run on donuts, the love of God transforms us daily and often much slower than we might desire creating a much more enduring and sustaining creation. Visit trinitychurchboston.org
Curating an Eternal Life • Sermon, Sun., August 11, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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The concept of eternal life in John’s Gospel isn’t defined solely by the duration of life. It is not only about the quantity of life, but also the quality of life. The eternal life Jesus offers is a life of a particular fullness. A life of depth and richness. A life that is “eternal” because it shares his very life. Visit trinitychurchboston.org
Beyond the Ordinary • Sermon, Sun., Aug. 4, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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Beyond the Ordinary • Sermon, Sun., Aug. 4, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
Unless You Become Like a Little Child • Sermon, Sun., July 28, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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Unless You Become Like a Little Child • Sermon, Sun., July 28, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
Marvelously Made & Called by Name • Sermon, Sun., June 2, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
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Marvelously Made & Called by Name • Sermon, Sun., June 2, 2024, from Trinity Church Boston
The God Who Sleeps • Sermon, Sun., June 23, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
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The God Who Sleeps • Sermon, Sun., June 23, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
Doom is Not our Destiny • Sermon, Sun., June 16, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
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Doom is Not our Destiny • Sermon, Sun., June 16, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
United We Stand, Divided We Fall • Sermon, Sun., June 9, 2024, at Trinity Church Boston
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United We Stand, Divided We Fall • Sermon, Sun., June 9, 2024, at Trinity Church Boston
Come Away and Rest With Me • Sermon, Sun., July 21, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
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Come Away and Rest With Me • Sermon, Sun., July 21, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
The Gospel According to HBO • Sermon, Sun., July 14, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
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The Gospel According to HBO • Sermon, Sun., July 14, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
Astounded. Offended. Amazed. Sermon, Sun., July 7, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
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Astounded. Offended. Amazed. Sermon, Sun., July 7, 2024, from Trinity Church in the City of Boston
Get Up • Sermon, Sunday, June 30, 2024, at Trinity Church in the City of Boston
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Get Up • Sermon, Sunday, June 30, 2024, at Trinity Church in the City of Boston
Miss Rumphius by Barbara Cooney, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
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Miss Rumphius by Barbara Cooney, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
The Crippled Lamb; Max Lucado, illus. Liz Bonham, read by Cathy Portlock Paccito
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The Crippled Lamb; Max Lucado, illus. Liz Bonham, read by Cathy Portlock Paccito
Old Turtle by Douglas Wood; watercolors by Cheng-Khee Chee, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
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Old Turtle by Douglas Wood; watercolors by Cheng-Khee Chee, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
Moses: When Harriet Tubman Led Her People to Freedom by Carole Boston Weatherford, read by Cathy P.
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Moses: When Harriet Tubman Led Her People to Freedom by Carole Boston Weatherford, read by Cathy P.
The Rainbow Fish by Marcus Pfister, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
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The Rainbow Fish by Marcus Pfister, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
Maybe God is Like That Too by Jennifer Grant, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
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Maybe God is Like That Too by Jennifer Grant, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
Baby Wren and the Great Gift by Sally Lloyd-Jones, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
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Baby Wren and the Great Gift by Sally Lloyd-Jones, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
Beautiful Moon: A Child’s Prayer by Tonya Bolden; read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
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Beautiful Moon: A Child’s Prayer by Tonya Bolden; read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
The Other Side by Jacqueline Woodson, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
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The Other Side by Jacqueline Woodson, read by Cathy Portlock Pacitto
The Important Book by Margaret Wise Brown, pictures by Leonard Wisegard
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The Important Book by Margaret Wise Brown, pictures by Leonard Wisegard
Well we know king Hezakia was real, question is how many generations between him and David?
The artwork images in this sermon are licensed via Creative Commons by the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, Boston.
Tangent here but the Arab armies were actually not bigger than Israel's. It was nominally 265k vs. 465k soldiers but the Arab coalition only deployed 215k. So in the battle against "five armies", the "five armies" actually deployed 50k fewer soldiers.
This guy makes my faith in Christ strong , thank you mr.expert
The white-washing of a tyrant !!
How did they date the 3 texts abt David to the 10th c, 6th c and 400bc ?
It is rather a stretch by Professor Pagels to equate the first mention of the first creation of light in Genesis with energy or the light as understood by the gnostics. The verse clearly refers to night and day.
9:55 "They knew no more about David than you or me" Uhh did he just make that up? Because 1 Chronicles 29 lists THREE sources for David's life, not one. There's probably other sources too
Do we have those sources? Where can we read them?
@@VulcanLogic But why would they just list sources that weren’t real? That doesn’t make sense
@@gianni206 Chronicles itself isn't even a primary source. This is like Paul's claim that 500 saw Jesus. We don't have those 500 claims. We just have Paul's. One claim.
its amazing how the bible moves nonbelievers the way it does,they discuss it more than pastors,and study it more than believers,Gods word is powerful He driving them to read it.
@@VulcanLogic They actually did have the claims of the 500 witnesses, just as they had the means, motive, and opportunity to retrieve them. In that same vein, the original audience of the Old Testament also had the means, motive, and opportunity to check the sources written for these books
It was wonderful! I was seated in peace to live this spiritual moment
The Tel Dan stele found places David in a historical context. Don’t believe every so called professional in this field as they come with a bias.
29:50 Meaning of the text everywhere comes not from history aka not the from the events that took place but from story - the way those events are understood and translated for the community that hears it. 30:03 History is simply something that happened, Story is meaning we make of it. 30:15 As a j or old testament scholar, the way that we're told to deal with the passover right, the exodus from egypt didn't happen but you have feed your children lies.
16:01 muhammad caravan raids now make sense.
Fascinating lecture. I never heard it's like. He put a unique spin on it. I enjoyed this presentation immensely. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing this with the public. ❤
Historians and many theologians said there needed to be another written source outside of the Bible dating back to the period of King David before King David would be considered anything more than myth. It turns out The Tel Dan Stele was discovered in 1993 in Tel-Dan by Gila Cook, a member of an archaeological team led by Avraham Biran. Its pieces were used to construct an ancient stone wall that survived into modern times. The stele contains several lines of Aramaic, closely related to Biblical Hebrew, and historically a common language among Jews. The surviving inscription details that an individual killed Jehoram of Israel, the son of Ahab and king of the house of David. These writings corroborate passages from the Hebrew Bible, as the Second Book of Kings mentions that Jehoram is the son of an Israelite king, Ahab, by his Phoenician wife, Jezebel. Applying a Biblical viewpoint to the inscription, the likely candidate for having erected the stele is Hazael, king of Aram-Damascus (whose language would have thus been Aramaic) who is mentioned in the Second Book of Kings as having conquered the Land of Israel, though he was unable to take Jerusalem. The stele is currently on display at the Israel Museum, and is known as KAI 310. The Tel Dan Stele is a fragmentary stele containing a Canaanite inscription which dates to the 9th century BCE. It is notable for possibly being the most significant and perhaps the only extra-biblical archaeological reference to the house of David. 90 percent of archaeologists agree now that David existed
Baden is not saying david did not exist but the account in the bible is a spun version of somewhat historical events from which we can decipher what really occurred and give us a perhaps more accurate depiction of who david really was
The archeological tel Dan Steele was found dating back 600 years BC stating ‘King’ ‘House of David’ - a written historical source outside the Bible. there is more archeological evidence supporting the biblical narrative all the time. Only one percent so far has been unearthed - It also boils down to faith - Jesus lineage goes back to David - if you reject that because of a ‘theologian’ then you have to reject everything else.
You won't find anything there. No Biblical places are in that part of the world. Alexander the Great, an Israelite, changed the Aeria to Egypt. Then in the 4th century AD, a Christian city was founded at a small ruined fort in the "syrian" desert. It is a sacerdotal fortified city of peace, a jerusalem. A wave of name changes ensued throughout the east. Biblical place names everywhere. When Isaiah was standing in the first place, he prophesied about another place where fences werent necessary. Only two places in the world match the detailed Biblical description. They aren't in Asia, which is a place of exile.
Do you have any documentation of David ? His tomb ?
Quite recent the Moabite stone has been found to have read Bet Dwd. House of David. So, not so much an “ invented hero” as a historic person.
Fantastic talk. Great questions and answered ... sensitively? I'm currently deconstructing my faith. I got a lot out of this presentation. Thank you.
How can David claim righteousness and that God rewarded him for it? Understanding what David means by “righteousness” here gives us the answer. Put simply, the Bible distinguishes between positional and practical righteousness, or as Martin Luther wrote, between alien and proper righteousness. The first kind of righteousness is the perfect obedience God requires for our justification and eternal salvation (Lev. 18:5; Matt. 5:48). We get this righteousness from Christ-His perfect obedience is imputed to us, put on our account, when we place our faith in Him alone. This righteousness makes us positionally righteous-legally righteous in the sight of God-and it is an alien righteousness because it properly belongs not to us but to someone else, namely, Jesus Christ (1 Cor. 1:30; 2 Cor. 5:21). The second kind of righteousness is the righteousness Scripture attributes to faithful servants of God who live lives of faith and repentance, who seek to obey His law, and who are increasing in godliness overall. Here we are not talking about sinless perfection but about the righteousness of people such as Noah, Lot, and Zechariah and Elizabeth (Gen. 6:9; Luke 1:6; 2 Peter 2:7-8). This is a practical and proper righteousness because it refers to our practice, to our obedience. It is the fruit of the Spirit’s work in us as we rely on His power and keep-albeit imperfectly-God’s commandments. This righteousness is the good-faith effort to obey the Lord. Despite all of his sins, when we evaluate David’s life as a whole, he possessed this second kind of righteousness. That is what he appeals to in today’s passage. He was rewarded with deliverance from his enemies because he was a faithful servant of God (2 Sam. 22:21-31). Those who trust in the Lord alone are declared righteous, and they begin to practice righteousness. They will ultimately be saved from all their foes (Deut. 28:1-7; 2 Tim. 4:18).
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When people literally sound like they brought their barking DOG to a quiet talk, but it’s just a person COUGHING… !! JUST REMOVE YOURSELF, just like we’d ask, take your barking dog OUTSIDE! Please, LEAVE THE ROOM!
Nice work! Except you missed the part where David DID NOT kill one of God's annointed - and so - while he was armed only with a sword he was 'relieving himself' with... and THEN proceeded to rail against one of his own who questioned his actions at the time - an event which occurred while David was running for his life from our 'leaky friend' - "Lefty". Perhaps if the leaders of the time had followed the dogma of Davey - the would not have needlessly murdered God's 'other' annointed as 1 Corinthians 2:8 clearly points out was a blatant mistake. The whole book is misinterpreted and is in the process of being cause of a long raging war that doesn't need to be. IF anyone is interested, I can use that book to stop this war and would like the opportunity to do just that. God is all but 'powerless' (respectfully) for the people that wield this 'paper sword' should use it for 'justice' in society and NOT to destroy each other with. IF the wages of sin are 'death' - then let God Himself 'number the days' of those who go against His law, het off each others backs, and LOVE each other - as the slain messiah Jesus the Christ had advised. Shalom.
Its all about the Tribe Of Benjamin, they were given Kingship, Saul was the rightful King, then he was bestrayed,,,,,the rest is history.
The tribe of Benjamin interesting. However, more interesting if true would be that this is the tribe that Mary Magdalene was from the woman who married Jesus and bore his kids.
What this fellow is saying that these are myths devised by the scribes to serve some purpose they may have, a spin. If their audience like this and that, they changed the spin. Here is a story which has been retold again, and it changed over time. This is exactly what Muslims claim about OT, and NT may be about Jesus but may have nothing to do with him, just someone with that name. These texts are part of the Jewish folklore. They do not have any religious significance.
Chilling!!
Wonderful. All believers in any religion should listen. For myself, fliundering in the waters of deconstructing my Evangelical faith it is a bit of a life raft. I also recommend Francesca Stavravakapolis for the OT, and Bart Ehrman for the NT. Mythvision for both for more great interviews with scholars
Imagine worrying about Protestantism as much as this woman has; what a bummer.
i reading his book about david... is so interesting and awsome.
So David was a fake, hmm, interesting?!
After reading the Book of Thomas I noticed that one quarter of the Logion’s either mentioned the importance of the Know Thyself Principles or eluded to it. If it was so important for Yeshua to Preach on the subject we better embrace the concept. Thankfully I have and have tapped into the Light of God within me. It has been a very interesting Journey ever since.
Dr Baden: Davi- Woman in the back: ACK ACK ACK ACK
Incredible lecture. I would become a Gnostic, but I don't understand Bell's inequalities yet. Elaine's husband would know about that.
37:00 Also, David's erea was during the dark age following the Bronze Age Collapse. So, I wouldn't expect to find writte records from otehr coutries about David.
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Keep the commandments and follow Yeshua Jesus. Yeshua commanded us to keep the Torah/Commandments/Law of Moses. Matthew 5:17... Seek this out. Sin is Lawlessness. Sin is the transgression of God's Law, which is the Law of Moses. Jesus kept the Law, He didn't abolish it. John affirms that we need to keep the commandments in his epistles, especially 1 John. Read it for yourself. Much love to you all :).
If it’s not true, you should not be in that religion. I have no idea how a he SCHOLAR who KNOWS the stories are fake can actually stand there and say that the fact that the stories aren’t true doesn’t mean you should stop believing is just mind blowing. It ABSOLUTELY means you should stop believing. Wtf are you doing if it’s all fake? Why does anyone need lies to live a good life? He is absolutely right that the stories are bs but to go on believing despite them being fictional makes you part of a delusional cult.
Churches like this are for people who are unable to deprogram all at once.
What you've written is evidence that the hardline fundamentalist inerrancy doctrine has made de minds of non-believers as well. It's not as simple as "true" or "false", the Bible was never meant to convey undisputable facts, but a deeper message about God and his interactions with humanity. This kind of reasoning won't do any good, even our current science is incomplete and subject to mistakes and will probably be bettered in the future. So throw everything away because it isn't perfect?
@ and what you’ve written is evidence of delusion. To say that it “was never meant to convey indisputable facts is not true. Where do you think we even get the idea that these books are inerrant? It’s from the religions’ claims themselves. And you talk about it being meant to convey “a deeper message about god and his interactions with humanity.” Which is utter nonsense. Every religion claims that (once they’ve been disproven by science) it’s all about creating a “deep”relationship with god through allegories or some such nonsense. If they ALL claim this then it’s just deism. And saying it’s a “message about god and his interactions with humanity.” Just baffles me because the science already shows this interactions to be false. We absolutely know there was never a worldwide flood. We know Adam and Eve did not exist as presented by the Bible. If they didn’t exist then why does hell and death exist? And The exodus never happened. In what measurable way did this god interact with humanity? My type of reasoning does A LOT of good because it’s how we counteract the evils of belief in religious dogma. For example, the only reasons people are against abortion or gay marriage or teaching evolution are religious. Even slavery and racism were religious concepts until secularism fought them. In reality, believing false things won’t do any more good than not believing them. Please do explain how believing is better than not believing. What is something a person who has a false relationship with some assumed god can get that an atheist can’t.
Tolstoy’s What Men Live By belongs in a Bible.
He claims that there is a difference between a historical david and a legendary david, I don't know why he thinks there is a difference : all we know about him is from the Bible, even his flaws. It's not as if we had other sources revealing different facts about him than the ones from the Bible. It's not like Jesus where his real teachings differ from the beliefs elaborated after his death by the fathers of the church.
David Alroy.. Is the david that basically took over king david
@Genesis 12:3 = Matthew 25:31-46 Abraham God's Friend Jesus the Christ goats sheep Matthew 6:20-21. (20. But lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven...(21. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. God bless you!!!
@Genesis 12:3 = Matthew 25:31-46 Father Abraham Jesus the Christ goats sheep Matthew 6:20-21. (20. But lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven...(21. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. God bless you!!!
@min.112:55, They that invest in God's interests can withstand a market turndown because God will sustain them, Paslms 112:9. God bless you on your journey!!!
I love these lectures but the politics detract so much from what's being presented.
Excellent talk. I like Dr. Joel Baden. He is to the Old Testament as what Dr. Bart Ehrman is to the New Testament. Great scholars who open the eyes of many people.
Bart Ehrman is only a specialist in manuscript he’s not good for anything else. Thats his specialty. His arguments don’t hold up the scrutiny and are actually made by liberal lutheran German theologians before him. He just popularized them
Few do that.
This is his opinion not facts
Bart’s popular books are very different from his scholarly works. You paid Baden no compliment.
Pagels, the class Idiot.
You clearly are jealous of David.
"the Bible's just a bunch of spin." Okie dokie.
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His remarks are witty and thoughtful, but man the audience is just cracking up the whole time.
I hear you on that. Sounds like he's addressing little kids.