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Honestly, they have such a fun opportunity to play with the weather. The world is basically borked after Starfall, right? So weather can happen anywhere and of all sorts and it'll make sense for the setting. I'd want more crazy weathers and biomes as it can all be explained very easily!

I'm of the same mind. Raising difficulty = not new content and so far it's the only thing they're offering. Granted, with the way of winter once I got 2 sets of gear for both temperature extremes I never died to it again, but I HAVE been through the frustrating cycle that you described. It's really hard to nail down a good balance on survival mechanics to make it challenging and not frustrating at the same time but sometimes I questioned whether they even tried with this one...

Yeah, the unintended side effects of not thinking through how your new mechanics will be used by everyone xD

Yeah, I'm still glad we got 2 silos that were unique, and it really set the tone... only to be disappointing when the next silo I did was the same once from Manibus with just a slightly different structure. One of them has the same fridge boss with a slightly different gimmick even! I can see the usefulness of what you describe but doing an entire scenario just for seeds, as you can't even transfer the acid or any of the other materials to the new scenario, seems a bit too much for me xD

And that's the biggest problem the game has. By definition, it would be good in like a year or two when it has a bunch of scenarios... but they're not doing anything to hold on to the players they have NOW to ensure they have them LATER.

I don't think more scenarios is the only thing that needs to happen. the scenarios themselves either need less downtime or more stuff to do.

Yeah, it's why I never bothered with PVP. I've talked to enough people playing on the PVP servers to know what sort of hellscape it could be. Between the ungodly lags, most of the builds are basically one-shot things that kill you in one shot or in one second. There's not skill needed besides being the first one to shoot.

@ Biggest problem with build in PvP is there’s not really much options at the top level. You have to run savior set to live otherwise yes you will die in only a few shots and 100% will be oneshot by bingo. The devs don’t know how to balance for PvP worth shit.

Yeah, they treat us as though we're brand new players when in reality, I'm pretty sure only the vets have stayed in the game and barely any new players are showing up. We all know how everything works and there's not really anything that could challenge us by this point.

Yeah, this one was the dumbset thing. If you're hiping up new elemental mechanics... uh, give us a reason to use it? But yeah, the phase pacing is dumb af.

I think an issue is here is that they're treating all players as if they're still new players, when the game barely gets any new players now. It's only mostly the vets that remain that have an abundance of everything from the previous scenarios, have upgraded gear and simply know how to get everything easy. There is no challenge whatsoever to ANYONE playing the game. Even on hard mode we'd still have an easy time. I'm not saying to make the game hard... but at least make people work for it a little bit?

Nope they don't care to provide a base line of stability and improving their spaghetti code base. Instead they developed the mobile app so they can milk some more whales. No need to argue about content, time gating etc if the game doesn't run properly. Plus most server seem dead and guess it's only a few people playing that are having 20 twinks each

Literally this. Once you reach endgame you pretty much have nothing to do in the game. While you're still leveling up and unlocking stuff, it's pretty fun but once you reach level 50? Yeah, it's over. Taking it slow and taking your time is the way to play to really draw out the fun parts.

Yeah, the Thermal Towers are not relevant to the story. It's as if they forgot to add it into the story. And I hate that there's no climax. Did we ACTUALLY stop Igna? The Chaoseweavers just leave... did we stop him? Did we delay him for 5 minutes? We didn't kill him or anything like that. Like... where's the payoff? Honestly, I wish they'd focus on more cosmetic stuff for bases than their stupid lootboxes. I'm honestly not really a fan of most of the skins they sell. Give us more stuff to make bases cooler! I'm genuinely a fan of building bases and I wish they'd lean into it more.

Yeah, some of the things are really good! I like how the CW change the environments... but I wish they'd actually be a fun boss fight or did more than just change the weather for a bit. The map is definitely beautiful and I loved exploring it. I'm a big fan of the northern aesthetics so they did a fine job there!

I'm honestly in the same boat. I kinda realized the same thing when on day 5 of the Phase 1 of WoW I met a lvl 50 player... like, people were reaching max level before the first week of the scenario was over. By this point, some players have minmaxed the shit out of the game and they know exactly how to maximize everything so letting them carry stuff over trivialized the entire game for them. And yes... as you've noticed, you don't really even need to play the game to get all the silly rewards! You could literally login once a week and get the rewards and not do shit. That is... silly design. That's what I mean when I say they need to focus on making the phases more engaging to make people WANT to do the activities.

That's why they wanted to do wipes in the first place but too many people complained. Lol

No, the seasons do not need to be harder. At least not for the more casual players like myself. I'm really glad they aren't harder than they are cos if they were, the game wouldn't be funf or me anymore and I'd probably stop playing. Or keep making new characters so I could re-play the Manibus Novice scenario over and over again. Maybe some ultra-hardmode servers for die-hard players like you might work, where you really have to start from scratch since you can't take anything with you from the last season?

Yeah, I've mentioned that in a previous video. The devs are waaay too focused on the lootboxes and maximizing monetary gain. I mean, it keeps the lights and servers on, that's understandable but at this point it feels like they're neglecting the actual game...

@@Comrade_Del Well, game developmentally speaking, it's a lot easier to build a couple new skins and implement them into the game than it is to build an entire new scenario, test it, re-test it, put it on the servers and then, elimiate the bugs that pop up cos the life system's never 100% exactly like the QA system and the slight differences can lead to issues (spoken as someone who does software testing herself and has had that exact issue pop up more than once). Add to it that, every time there's a new scenario, everyone and their Aunt Edna seems to be b*tching about how bad it is and how buggy it is and how much it sucks, I can't blame the devs for wanting to play it safe and not release any new scenario until a) the existing ones are optimized as much as they can be and b) until the new scenario is as good as they possibly can get it so fewer people will be b*tching about it. Mind you, people still will find something to b*tch about cos people just suck, plain and simple.

@@veladarney As I've said in the vid, you can't please everyone. That's just impossible. Someone will always bitch and moan about things. All I'm saying is that I can see the care and effort that goes into the lootbox skins and items... and how so many things in the scenarios are simplistic that could definitely use more love.

@@Comrade_Del 100%

Yeah, there is no Endgame. You reach final level around phase 2... but you have 2 more phases to go with nothing interesting to do. That's what I mean. They need to make the other phases give you something to do! In other games once you reach the endgame, you go around getting the cool endgame gear and upgrading it... but you don't have cool endgame gear and nothing to upgrade. There is... barely anything to do.

I'll be honest, their main player base at this point isn't really casual. So many people in my server are tryharding xD We had people at lvl 50 on the first week and the majority of the server got to lvl 30 by the end of it. Either way, the simple and easy option can be two things. Simplistic because it works just fine... or in this case, lazy because they just didn't want to spend more time refining and building it. Even casual gamers appreciate a cool, well planned thing.

​@@Comrade_Del yeah, it really is obvious the game was rushed in development, the some of the features and basic gameplay are copied and pasted from other Netease's other games and other lazy slop games like the early PUBG, the most obvious one are the vehicles having only one gear audio. having said that, their goal is to have more players, since this game is very F2P friendly having a large amount of playerbase is necessary. 30K total monthlyconcurrent players is VERY low for a F2P friendly game, i mean look at Genshin Impact having 70million+ monthly players with that (hypothetically) the Company only need 13% of their players to pay $5 for a monthly sub to earn their highest profit of $135m. doesn't include battlepass sales and the 0.02% who actually buys the premium currency. <FYI> Genshin's monthly profit ranges from $8m-135m Monthly so the average would be somewhere around $40m Globally. for what it's worth having higher skill ceiling will Drive potential players away hence why they turned down the difficulty.

@@Comrade_Del it was Clear that Manibus was thought out correctly because it's within their development and Winter was Rushed to please the people who wanted more content regardless of quality (i think you said this already)

@@ArjentaSilverwing Yeah... but Once Human is not a gacha waifu game. Honestly, they should take cues from Genshin if I were to be honest. Once Human maintained around 150K players for nearly two months and for a f2p game that is basically an early access title? That's really good. But yes, now it's 30K players. It dropped significantly and it only proves that I was on to something. I made the first vid about this game back when it had 150K concurrent players and I predicted that the people are going to start leaving soon. Before WoW came out, the numbers were at 40K. Once WoW released, they jumped back up to 80K for exactly a week before they dropped back down to the previous numbers and now to 30K. Basically, this update brough SOME people back... but they didn't stay. Saying the game would be better in a couple years is a bit of an issue when it's unclear if it'll even have any players within a year.

I did have more fun in Manibus, not going to lie. Feels more fleshed out and engaging.

That's what I thought as well!!! I thought to myself, oh right, up the mountain is colder so I bet animals there give you better hides! So I stocked up on warming items and foods, got up there, killed some deer and got disappointed. I honestly think it would've made hunting animals so much more engaging and really, all it would require is changing some loot tables and reskinning a couple of models. It's not THAT hard...

It's a free to play game. They have to make money somehow. They already have battlepasses, shops and lootboxes so I'm not surprised at all that they'll shove product placement in it to make money. But if the game is actually good and the content is thought out, I think players don't really care all that much. Problem is, the game CAN be good, I see the potential. But so far the content is NOT really well thought out.

​@Comrade_Del having this kinda mindset is part of the problem I think and gives the devs the excuse to keep on repeating it. Every company needs to run or we wouldn't have a game or server but with the quality provided and the focus not being on fixing the existing problems but just keep the players busy while focusing most of their assets to dev more money sinks or a mobile version furthering the issues at hand. Might aswell go for a different game and don't give these people free ads

Problem is that there isn't really even anything to spend the Starchrom on xD

Yeah, I've heard that you can maximize the gain from the breeding but... yeah, I honestly haven't seen a single person on my server bother with it. The upkeep required vs what you get from it is just not worth it for most players. Do you NEED the better hides? Are they THAT worth it? To be honest? Not really. I and many others were fine with regular hides. The benefits from using the special hides are pretty marginal and outside Way of Winter they're even less useful since temperature is not a thing there. Right now the upkeep vs the benefit for animal farming is just not worth it for most players. Though honestly, if there was a different model for all the different animal hides, I'd honestly just capture them for the sake of making a cool zoo. That will be a cool thing to show off!

@@Comrade_Del Its mostly for minmaxers who wants to optimize their builds at very top, cow hides in the mask - provides physical damage, wasteland wolf hide provides stamina and sprint speed on pants and chest) So it benefits not only against weather, but it depends if you need it or not, as long as it needs only initial animal catching you can maintain the rest in a background like oil or acid farms. RN Im only need snapshot lvl 5 diviation and there is nothing to do other than waiting finishing phases. For the zoo there is restriction 6 pets for territory, lol xD #noWaytoenjoyTheWinter

Exactly! The game would be a lot more interesting once they have like 4-6 scenarios, but what matters NOW is to ensure that the players stay and I feel the way to do it is by making engaging and entertaining scenarios. Yeah, Manibus is not a masterpiece by any means of the word, but I at least had more fun with the Prime Wars than with the stupid Chaos Weavers. Building artillery walls and firing at the bosses with everyone felt more fun than just standing there and shooting outside the boss's range or dying from fucking low or high temperature.

The issue with Chaos Weavers is that the rewards suck, because they're the same generic reward as any other boss gives you, and that there is no fail state. Nothing happens if you ignore it. If you live next to it's spawn point, then it sucks for you. But if you don't, for example like me since my base isn't near any spawn point, I can literally ignore it forever. Once again, once you complete the phase goal, no one has ANY reason to fight the Weavers. It was the same issue with the Prime Wars, but with the PW at least it was mildly entertaining.

Like I said, the game would be damn good in like a year or so when we will have like 4-6 scenarios to choose from. Right now we only got 2 and one of them is kinda boring. They need to make what they have no more engaging and fun and keep up with that!

Yeah, I don't think we need a super complicated weather system but the way it was made here made it a bit more annoying than it should've been. I adore the map aesthetic though! Wintery lands is my jam. The hide system is a really good thing that I loved and I hope they expand on it and don't just leave it as is. And weavers are just annoying bullet sponges. Really, the real MVPs are the server mates xD Ain't no freaking way I'll be fighting dozens of those sponges xD

That's an already more engaging idea to be honest! Add a failure state! If you fail, you can't sell or buy stuff in the town or something. Or you can't use it as a teleporter. Gives incentive to people to protect the towns!

Pve is also for casual players... 3-4 weeks is nothing for someone that plays 2 days a week. Same goes for CW attaking bases. It is not an obtion for casuals and pve players. They just need to add more content and more difficult content. Also more stuff to farm for pve players to collect like skins and formulas dropping from silos, monoliths and events. More enganging events with unique rewards anndd a big reward like a costume or something for completting all phase goals.

the thing is, if they decide to make 3-4 weeks atleast give player faster way to level up to. because most of my friend quit because they have to level up again and again and its really boring to do.

​@@danfroz5554what do you mean dude? Commissions give large amount of exp.

​@@danfroz5554 stop farming LVL 1 area

Yeah, it's why I don't really feel tempted to play the PVP servers. From what I've seen it's all 1 shot builds and OP snipers xD

In my server we already had people who got to level 50 in the first week... so yeah, for them it was just waiting and doing nothing. At least this was a new scenario so there was new places to explore and some things to do but if they have to do it again? Yeah, they might get too bored.

So, basically - turn it into a game for people who got no life outside of gaming? Thx, I think I'll pass.

@@veladarney Nah, nothing like that. I mean give me a game that I'll need to play to get things in it. Right now, I can log in once a week for 10 minute, get rewards and leave until the next phase. Shit, I don't even need to level up or actually play the game to do that. I can spawn in, quit, and come back a total of 4 times and still get a bunchload of starchrom.

Please answer this scenario: You go to a bar and the bartender congratulates you and tells you that your first drink is on the house. He then gives you a fancy glass, but it's filled with room temperature tap water. You can practically taste the rust in the water. Are you going to be happy with it? It's still free, right? I get the feeling that you would be xD

At the very least the devs have said that they are going to do some serious effort to fix the lag... but it's been months so it's just a wait and see moment. I genuinely love this game but I also hate how some of the features and parts of the game are just kinda half-assed, in the literal sense. They add the beginning of a cool feature, just the foundation of it and then move on to work on something else, leaving us with just a teaser of what it could be. At this point I'm hoping they'll fix and finish all their features BEFORE players bail on the game, even though they already are doing it.