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Thanks, I was starting to think I was going crazy, seeing everyone hyping the show, haha. I think my video just hit the wrong side of UA-cam and drew the attention of all the Disney corpo-simps. Some of the comments reveal much more vitriol than I expected, where the fans of this show seem to be absolutely gleeful at the idea that Marvel is no longer for Marvel fans. I can understand them saying “I like this show,” but when they start celebrating the fact that the core audience hates it, that feels a lot more malicious.

@@TheCultureCrusader bro the rest of the comments here have less vitriol than your "corpo-simp" comment or the person you're replying to saying the series is "written for children." Most people just say they like the show. Talk about throwing stones in glass houses. Try to see past your own bias, yeah?

Nah

Because we're all superhero fans, and we all enjoy it. He's speaking for 1/4 of the target demographic as if it applies all around and it doesn't.

@@TheCultureCrusader Illuminating.

Yeah well everything not made for the white guys you are crapping on seems to keep failing.

I swear, all these straight dudes are just pissed that Marvel doesn't just cater to them anymore 😂.

I'm straight, and it's not even as gay as people make it out to be. It's fun.

What’s wrong with the straight?

The whole reason Marvel has been doing bad is because they rely on the old, outdated formula of just using CGI and action to get people to watch their movies. After 10 years though, that formula becomes boring and repetitive. Agatha All Along is set in the MCU, but it is definitely not a comic book show and it’s not trying to be. It’s meant to be a show about witches, women, trauma, and lots of other adult themes that are far more interesting and nuanced than the standard CGI ActionFest that are previous Marvel projects. This show wasn’t made for you, and that’s fine, no need to bash it and ruin it for the people who it is made for though.

True? I’m not familiar with her in the comics-is she as evil in the comics as she has been so far in WandaVision and Agatha All Along?

Yep, just saw episode 3 which confirmed this. Makes Agatha far more evil than even I expected. Unless they end up making it that she actually didn’t do it, or she didn’t mean to do it.

Hahaha all good. Yeah they really didn’t make good use of him in the end. Pretty disappointing.

@@TheCultureCrusader but hey maybe he is alive and will be the main antagonist of the Rex series

Yeah that’d be pretty cool. Especially if they bring in the rest of Delta Squad as well.

@@TheCultureCrusader that’s my hope Edit:except for Sev, Sev should join Rex despite his super murderous personality but I recommend you to look up SHADOW a bad batch fan animation

@PteranoLiv yep, Sev should definitely desert the Republic/Empire after they left him for dead. Joining up with Rex would be cool. I’ll try remember to check out that fan animation when I get a chance.

Yes, I believe witchcraft in real life is demonic and inherently evil, but that’s not the point of this video. I understand that in fiction, simply calling somebody a witch does not make them an evil character. Wanda was not evil in most of the stories prior to WandaVision, for example. But when the show itself has the main characters seeking power for the sake of power at all costs, singing “The road is wild and wicked, winding through the wood. Where all that’s wrong is right and all that’s bad is good,” I think it’s safe to say that’s evil. It is by its own description the polar opposite of morality-wicked. And that’s not even taking into account Agatha’s own actions and her own disregard for morality and decency in the first two episodes. I haven’t had a chance to watch Episode 3 yet, so idk if anything changes there.

i mean im watching it with my housemates and one guy who literally only watches top gear and iron man at a push is enjoying it....the narrative the show has a tiny audience is ridiculous

Hahaha let’s agree to disagree.

@@TheCultureCrusader great! Different people like different things, just because it's not what you're interested in doesn't make it awfull

Proudly conservative. Not gonna shame me for that one sorry.

@@TheCultureCrusader Proudly not Conservative and not trying to shame you just disagree bias Politics.

Fair enough

Good point on the distinction between likeable and enjoyable… Agatha is neither likeable nor enjoyable though, so it really doesn’t change anything.

You’re right, I’m not ready for prime time. But guess what the best way is to improve? That’s right! It’s by making more videos, which is what I’m doing.

Tell that to the other people in my comments getting upset at me for calling her unlikable. Also, I can’t remember if it’s in this video or my episode 2 review but in one of them I addressed the fact that they obviously meant to do it but it’s still a terrible idea. Why would we want to watch a show about the most awful person in the world?

@@TheCultureCrusader One of the most well known and most loved TV shows of all time had an absolutely repulsive main character: House. House was an absolute jerk through the whole show. But he was compelling, you wanted to see what happened next, you wanted to see his story unfold. I'm personally loving the show, and I understand people can have a difference of opinion, but it seems like you might be missing the point of Agatha's character.

I haven’t seen House, so I can’t comment on that. Have been considering checking it out though, so I might have to watch it and see how it compares to this. Agatha so far has not been compelling in how awful she is. She has not made me want to watch more and see what she gets up to next. The only thing I want to see is her getting what’s coming to her. And I don’t think that’s what the writers intended. I think they have overplayed their hand with the unlikeable character and made her a hugely exaggerated caricature instead of an interesting complex character. Maybe future episodes will change my mind but I kind of doubt it

“This is a super bitter video.” Nah, I’m not that emotionally invested in it, but I can understand why you might want to convince yourself that I’m just bitter and resentful. It’s easier to write off my opinions that way. I thought there were a lot of parts of WandaVision which were really good, but then most of it came to nothing and the ending was very disappointing. WandaVision was not specifically targeted to the exact same fanbase as the older MCU films, but it still had enough aspects that the existing fanbase would enjoy, and it tied in with multiple characters we liked. But most importantly, it came out at a time when people still had faith in the MCU. Now, we have a show that is multiple degrees further divorced from the core fanbase, which comes out at a time when people’s faith in the MCU is shaken, AND it hasn’t started anywhere near as strongly as WandaVision did. I think it’s nice that you and your partner can enjoy these shows together, but that doesn’t mean that the show appeals to the MCU fanbase. Oftentimes watching a show with somebody you care about can lead you to enjoying the show a lot more than you otherwise would, just because you enjoy that person’s company. And that’s fine, but the fact of the matter is, the average MCU fan would not be interested in sitting down and watching this show on their own, if it was not branded as Marvel. And at that point, it may as well be an entirely different franchise, because they’re making a show that doesn’t appeal to Marvel fans, then using the Marvel brand to try to lure them in. Also, I didn’t claim it was awful just because it’s not made for me. It’s awful because Agatha is the most unlikable character of all time, and the show actively subverts all morality by trying to push evil people as if they’re the good guys. That’s not what people want from a super-HERO franchise. We want stories of heroism, not villainy. And of course, there is sometimes room for grey morality, but this show has well and truly crossed the line into outright anti-morality.

@TheCultureCrusader What's bitter is your attitude. The likability of a character is an entirely subjective trait, something you seem unable to understand. Marvel is not just a Cinematic universe, it's a production house, filled with hundreds creatives. Stepping outside of the box to create something new and interesting using established IP from an available catalogue under the Marvel umbrella should not be penalised just because some random Brad or Chad does not feel serviced by the product, characters and genre of the show. So, you don't like this show? That's fine, I have no stakes in convincing you to like it, not everything is for everyone. That doesn't, inherently, make it a bad show though. Projects CAN infact be released through the Marvel Brand that ARENT targeted towards you AND still be good. Marvel expanding it's audiences through different sectors of it's releases is an entirely positive thing, because it means MORE people get to enjoy these stories and characters. As for your qualms with the characterisation of Agatha as a villain, it is not Marvel's nor the people who enjoy the shows problem that you struggle to handle the complexities of a villain. You want to see the good guy save the day? That's great! Go and watch one of the HUNDREDS of films that entail that. Agatha, as a character, has existed in the comic long before WanaVision. She has deeply compelling arcs throughout her appearances that could well be adapted here, just because a character is objectively villainous does not make them poorly written? It makes them complex, nobody thinks of themselves as the bad guy. Even the most evil person on earth thinks, on some level, that they are the Hero of their own story. Agatha, while the villain in other branches of the universe, IS the hero in her own story. That's what makes a complex character. You don't have to like it. You don't have to WATCH it. But I think people would appreciate some demonstration of critical thinking skills. If you took the time to explore feedback from the show outside of your mid-twenties, white, straight male echochamber that is "The target audience" for previous Marvel projects, you'd see that shows like Agatha are being received incredibly well. Who are you to discredit something so many others enjoy just because it is not the same as the thing you like that a studio used to make? Can't both exist, in their own merit, under the same umbrella? There are early installment, phase one projects that I'm not a fan of. Do I think that means they're awful? No. It means they were never written for me. Your lack of ability to express nuance is phenomenal, really.

@TheCultureCrusader If your biggest problem with something is that it's subversive of its genre while existing in the same universe then that is a matter of taste, not a matter of quality.

Agreed. Wandavision was amazing ❤

Bitterness is an emotion, not an attitude, but that’s neither here nor there. If I tell you I’m not bitter, you can always just assume I’m lying, so it’s a pointless argument. You claim likability is subjective, and to a certain extent I would agree with you. But there are a lot of traits that are objectively negative traits, to the point where there might be something wrong with anybody who finds them likeable. For example: 1. Barging in front of a line of people and calling them all suckers demonstrates that Agatha thinks she is above everyone around her, and that her time matters more. Extremely self-centred behaviour. Not something that any sane person likes. 2. Constantly disrespecting, insulting, and talking down to everyone around you. Agatha does this with her boss, the other detective (both of whom were obviously actually just her neighbours), and Billy. Treating people badly is not a likeable trait. If you like that, you might have issues. 3. Getting a woman fired from her job just to use it as a manipulation tactic. That woman did nothing to her, and Agatha sabotaged her livelihood so that she could pressure her into joining a coven. That’s evil. Not likeable. 4. Randomly assaulting two teenage boys who were just walking in the mall, minding their own business. Again, not likeable. If I did that to two teenage girls, I would get arrested, and rightfully so. But Agatha thinks that’s fine. She is not a likeable character by any stretch of the imagination. The only people I could imagine actually liking her are people who are just as awful as her in real life, and so they see her as a representation of themselves. “Don’t like it, don’t watch.” I’ll do you one better. I’ll watch it, review it, and convince OTHER people to not watch it. But don’t cry like Acolyte fans when your show doesn’t get a season 2. Remember, YOU TOLD US NOT TO WATCH. Also, you had some racist, sexist nonsense in your comment too, but it wasn’t worth a proper response.

Not bait, but I can see how this might enrage you if you practice the same anti-morality that I’m calling out in this show.

This argument will never be a compelling one. You are essentially saying “how dare the fanbase care what happens with the franchise they were a fan of?” and all you are doing is showing that you yourself don’t care about the franchise. You say The MCU is boring now, which itself is a complaint about comic book movies, but you simultaneously have a problem with other people voicing their own complaints about comic book movies. Clearly self-awareness is not one of your strengths.

Thanks!

it HAS to be, either that or this man lives in the BIGGEST echo chamber ever

Yeah, Agatha is a joke. Glad we can agree.

He is the joke yes

It all comes down to what appeals to the existing fanbase. The average MCU fan has NO interest in watching a show that is more concerned about pushing the gay agenda than it is about telling a good story. This show is proudly advertising the fact that it doesn’t care what its audience wants.

It can always find a new audience

Like The Acolyte found a new audience? That didn’t go so well for them, did it?

​@TheCultureCrusader where is the gay agenda exactly? All 3 episodes were about the witches themselves i see no gay agenda being pushed

@@uddhavramgolam9743 this individual thinks if a gay actor or character is present for over 0.3 seconds then the show must be trying to turn your entire bloodline gay

Speak for yourself… A whiny bald guy projecting ;)

I think we might be talking past each other a bit so let me clarify: I’m not saying it’s impossible to make a good show just because the fanbase wasn’t asking for it. What I am saying is that it’s a very bad idea to make a show that you are intentionally not targeting towards the franchise’s existing fanbase. Your whole appeal to authority argument in favour of WandaVision is meaningless to me because I could not have less respect for the opinions of official film critics and award shows. I simply do not view them as trustworthy or a valuable metric by which to measure success. Your examples that you have used which “nobody asked for” don’t really apply to this situation, either. GotG may not have been something people specifically asked for, but it was still targeted towards the same fanbase who already loved the other Marvel movies, and it was done very well. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and Iron Man were all the first of their kind, and they were the films which established their own fanbases and started very successful franchises. That is very different to Agatha which is leeching off an existing franchise but going out of its way to NOT appeal to that fanbase. That’s what I mean by “nobody asked for this.” I mean, Marvel fans, the kind of people who loved Iron Man 1 and other early MCU films, have NO interest in a show like Agatha. And no, it’s not “because it doesn’t cater to me, I will hate it no matter what.” It’s “because it doesn’t cater to the pre-established fanbase of the franchise within which it exists…” If the next Barbie movie had Barbie joining SEAL Team Six, jumping out of helicopters, and shooting bad guys, I would say the same thing. Even if I personally enjoyed the film, it would be a very questionable decision to make a Barbie film that isn’t targeted towards the Barbie fanbase. And by the way, I’m not hating Agatha no matter what. If you watched my review you’ll see me praising the occasional parts I liked, especially the opening scene. But there are more flaws than strengths in this show so far, and those need to be addressed too. Ridicule is not the same as “whining about it.” If the show sucks, I will make fun of it, but where it’s good, I will praise it.

Feels like some people decide to hate shows before they've seen it nowadays.

@@TheCultureCrusader Wait, wait wait. 😂 Your argument is Marvel should stick to one genre and not target a huge untapped fanbase aching for content? They released a witch show as we approach Halloween that stars some of the favorite actors for that fanbase. Get your head out, go watch some reaction videos from people that don’t look like you and see how much joy people are having with the show. I wonder if you are just bitter because people you don’t like get to watch something they enjoy. There is a market for this. This is doing well in that audience and making people happy.

Btw this is for the MCU adjacent fanbase of people who like things like Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Charmed, Wicked the musical and the movie the Craft.

No, that’s clearly not my argument. Marvel have branched out before and it has been immensely successful. You mentioned Guardians and I agreed with you. Another good example is Captain America: The Winter Soldier. It’s more of a spy movie but it still fits perfectly in the MCU. And do you know why? Because it is still targeted towards the same fanbase, which has been my point all along. The fanbase has a reasonably wide range of movie types that they are willing to accept, but those movies have to still be written with the intention of being enjoyable to the core fanbase. This was clearly not written with that intention. This was written to be enjoyed by single, lonely middle-aged women, and effeminate gay men-people who have typically had very little interest in the MCU. This show has totally abandoned the MCU core audience to instead chase some imaginary new audience that will probably not even bother to watch it. Also, this show is NOTHING like any of the Buffy episodes I have watched. Granted, I haven’t watched all of Buffy, but unless it takes a massive twist later on, I don’t see any real similarities between the two. Buffy features very likeable protagonists who are enjoyable to watch. Agatha is the most unlikeable character I can recall seeing on screen. Buffy and her friends are very clearly on the side of good, fighting against evil, which makes them heroes. Agatha is on the side of evil, trying not to get killed by worse evil. She’s a villain. I could go on, but it’s not really that relevant to this show anyway. Just seems like a very silly comparison to make. Not sure about the other examples that you mentioned, because I haven’t seen them, but I guess my question would be, “If they wanted so badly to make a show to appeal to such a drastically different audience, then why even set it in the MCU at all? Why not just make it a new IP? I’ll tell you why: because nobody would watch it if it didn’t have Marvel’s name attached.

Hahaha yep, that’s how it should have gone. But she already assaulted him once and nothing happened, so I guess why not do it again?

Thanks! Yeah I’d love to see the Aussies but sadly I don’t think it’s happening.