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I’m just here laughing 8 months later because they have performing live with a backtrack (which is more than can be said for most groups these days) all year and doing great. K-pop fans taking a completely live performance in the dry windy desert (where the majority was completely serviceable vocals, with some great and some bad moments), clipping down into 20 seconds, and using it to run a hate train is a perfect example of why K-pop fans are looked down on. The real embarrassment of the industry is the fans, not the artists.

Please stop using articles from AKP. They are very well known for being really bad at their job as well as lie for clicks.

I feel like if your voice is on the track, you should be able to sing the notes assigned. If you can't do that, you're better suited to be a model or a dancer or whatever your strengths are in a career that doesn't require vocals

Well done video 👏🏻✨

It's so pitiful that they are not given enough screen time to show their talents😢😢Kim Junsu... I still love him so much since 2012..

Junsu's debut story 101

This video is full of very naive assumptions. A company has every right to defend itself against a hostile takeover, and against efforts to defame its reputation. This whole thing started when a whistleblower told Hybe about MHJ's plot to take over NJ and make Ador an "empty shell", which led to an audit that uncovered alleged embezzlement by MHJ's lackeys, of which she was apparently fully aware. There was never an attempt to harm or include NJ in this battle against MHJ, but NJ inserted themselves into the middle of the legal battle, and have continued to attack Hybe and Ador in an effort to shield MHJ and provide cover for her shenanigans - to the detriment of their own careers. Ultimately, as information has been revealed, this conspiracy has been a long game of greed in order to steal NJ, after the millions invested in them by Hybe, without paying a penalty for breaking their legally binding contracts. The consequences of this greedy plot is going to impact the entire entertainment industry and Korean contracts in general. These are facts. Anyone thinking that Hybe and Ador are at fault for defending themselves, their staff and their artists from these attacks by MHJ and NJ are not thinking about how business actually works. This isn't high school.

Sorry, Yunho 2.0, but the OG Yunho is hot

I think in some instances, such as the Newjeans outfits, the biker shorts were purposely shown as a stylistic choice. Same with the mini skirts, though I can completely understand how frustrating it is to see stylists eliminate the whole point of the skirts being mini, I do think they are cute and arent meant to be seen as safety shorts.

this edit is so funny

girl have mercy on ur integrity and ur brain and watch and listen to ur video again and again. somethings twisted with ur perspective and all the articles and newspapers that u just tagged and based ur opinions on are the most zero integrity, biased and go for sensational issues rather than truth and factual evidence. if u will not fix ur brain and ur heart, well, then... its ur channel anyway and u will know why ur channel will not prosper. so i hope u review ur contents wisely

i see you're trying to be neutral but some points give off "no one is innocent but the way nj has been acting is justified by their grooming". if anything, you did make me see why hani felt getting ignored once was a crime. she got a reality check when she wandered out of their ador bubble. remember they had their exclusive styling room. what was she doing in the company styling room shared by other hybe groups anyway? all those years of getting pampered by their "mother" went in shambles at the NA when she even failed to prepare her statements. she only exposed her lack of comprehension of the language (natural for non-natives ofc) when she apologised to the assemblyman for notunderstanding his question fully. that could have been their back door entry to making her look like an employee, thus creating a loophole in the system. tsk tsk. sure, seoulite tv's choice of language is harsh but it is what it is. his channel discusses the hottest issues in sk. what i like about him is that he does his research well. i came across his channel from the han river medical student case and he didn't have that many subs yet. now that he's gaining more attention, haters claim he's on hybe payroll haha. it's misogyny if it were from plain lies but they're not. the receipts are out and they all make sense (if one ain't a bunny or mhj stan, that is). dispatch is also now labelled a hybe stan after all the expose lol. i usually give channels like this a listen in the hopes they are unbiased and just present facts as they are. i've become very cautious when it comes to subbing. i watch a few and it hurts but most of their opinions are true so i give them a like. sad to say, i don't feel it here. even the links in your pinned comment has HYBE EXPLOITATION attached to one of them.

with all due respect to riize... no one else is on tvxq level on any iterations of tvxq... but it is a cute remake. though tvxq were real teens when they made that song, riize is a bit too old to be remaking it too i feel like. but still cute.

Now parents opened insta account to cry over abt the issues just like Mhj and their daughters. Instead go to court ,they choose moaning in public. Money is running away and probably they were comfy with the income NJ brought...

it’s a crime that he wasn’t allowed on korean television for 15 years. any time he had the opportunity the shows would cancel on him last minute because SM would threaten them

1:32 wait, the context is that he was exposing her for trying to use her body to gain favors (and also her for being a hypocrite about it). he wasn't calling her names because she is evil, he is calling her the name that he's exposing her for. In other words, she is evil, and she is a [insert word]. I have to go so I can't finish the video atm, but the first 2 minutes so far does not sound promising.

Well I agree that nwjs were minors when the influence of mhj started, but to rule out their every action as cause and effect of not proper guidance is insulting their intelligence. At some point they themselves are responsible for their actions. Even if mhj painted a picture of hybe mistreating them, they chose to exagerate the ignore her incident, they stood with the petition stating illit copied them. They are media literate and watch videos on yt and from other sources. A simple comparison video of them against all those acts they blatently copied should have been enough to shut them up. Minor or not their actions have real consequences on adults and minors alike (some who live paycheck to paycheck and don't have the privilege like mwjs were given). If they can't bear the consequences of their own actions they don't belong in the real world. Just because someone is a minor doesn't mean an excuse for their bad actions. People as old as 16 get drafted for military here in the uk.

Deliberately obtuse take - there’s only ONE adult that is screwing them over, from the start of this whole fiasco. She’s the one who dragged them into her conflict with Hybe, she is the one that planned their livestreams, outrageous claims of being ignored in front of the government, etc. she is the one breaking laws and telling them to say it was all their idea.

You are wrong about hybe making public the issue they need to publicize the audit of mhj and then mhj accuse illut of copying njs because hybe is making an audit about her and then is go to like this issue and njs and their parents is also riding and one of the uncle of njs is also talked to davao link ceo to "transfer"/buy njs to hybe . And if i remeber correctly hybe need to publicize the issue of their company idk how they called it but they need to publicize the issue etc of their company .

So you seem like a balanced opinion one i as an army i agree that hybe is not pure innocent company the lsrf critism, the belift poorly made video to rebuttal mhj claims,with g friend and formis obviously hybe should get criticsm i dont know how hybe so bad with there gg and kpop can they stop debuting such young people Buy i disagree with certian things ;- 1) the internal market research documents i didnt able find the priginal source but it seems like there were negative comments about hybe groups in that paper many other fandoms and bunnies claim it was all written by hybe which is true it was written but hybe but those comments were taken from online Platfroms and kpop stans blaming there comments from online Platfroms are not there opinions but hybe amd hybe tried to start media hate train on these groups but but these paers included there own groups why would hybe wanna ruin there own froup images . 2) i know blaming nj for mhj actions are wrong very much wrong but i can also understand from where its comung from bcs on that injuction for hanni bullying she claimed that the manager ignored her but in assembly it was also seen she is not that good in korean language and another criticism why she didnt reported it to mhj dince it happened when she was the ceo and there are many other reasons one other thing how kpop stans couldnt seprate nj and mhj thats also one of the reason of people criticism or hate toward them nj is little fault in here after there activities ended they appeared on a radio show one of the members littreally wore a shirt with mhj in it and the thise photos are from the first public conference of mhj. I was baffled how much nj is brainwashed and blindsided by mhj evil doing and there parents are no better instead of being a adult and seeing it through matire perspective they sided with mhj now they open a insta account saying hybe is spreading lies and doing media play instead of handling this by courts its a mess

ngl i got kinda weirded out by this video real quick since you included an out-of-context clip from seoulite tv which made perfect sense in its original context (and wasn't explained in ur video) as mhj made it clear in her texts she was willing to literally sleep with people to get the business deals she wanted, so it's not an unproductive statement for him to acknowledge that info. as a female i don't understand how it's wrong for that detail to brought up because even if the sexes were reversed, it would still be someone using sex to get business deals they want. also, i don't really think there's a valid reason for le sserafim to get hate during all of this drama since the only thing they did wrong was out of their control / directly caused by mhj choosing to delay the new jeans debut. i was a newjeans fan before i got into lsf and i never understood being mad at lsf for debuting earlier the newjeans since it was obvious one group was ready (+ chaewon & sakura already had strong yet temporary attention from izone) while mhj delayed njs for her own tampering aka establishing ador purposes. edit: also felt weird about how it seemed like newjeans were being absolved of their behaviour (because of mhj x hybe) even though they're old enough to hire legal teams, sign contracts, and should understand that doing silly elevator sticker pranks in their workplace or wearing a mhj t shirt isn't innocent child behaviour, it's straight up petty & unprofessional at work. it's not uncommon for people their age to work full-time jobs & go to university (often taking on debt) so while i agree there's no meaningful/non-legal difference between a 17 vs 18 year old, they're not 13 and we don't need to pretend they lack understanding of their actions. they're willingly provocative, at most they're being blackmailed into being provocative but we have no evidence to truly suggest this (just giving them the benefit of the doubt). not to mention, their parents are involved to some degree which we know via dispatch

Your point about the audit and removal of Min Heejin having a guaranteed negative effect on NewJeansnis valid. The problem is Min Heejin was removed for like less than two weeks before their livestream. What exactly could have happened in two weeks that justified that?

Nah mhj like predatory/pedoy concepts too much not to mention the incest inspiration and then the artwork in her home🤢 yeah lock her up. What do you mean she waa having sleepovers with the members and sleepovers alone with hyein?🤢 this is why i hate their parents statement from their instagram, because why are ya calling your daughters, “the members “ but mhj is calling your daughters her daughters 😐🤦🏽‍♀️

I just hate how so many people ignore the fact that mhj getting the court to rule in her favor completely screwed over njs. When it was ruled that hybe was a separate entity from their other businesses, it made it so that njs basically have no argument. Because most of njs grievances don’t mention ador or ador was not the party at fault, therefore irrelevant.

Finally a nuanced take on this situation 😭

The best to explain Hybeboy accurate info to trash talk both in Korean and English check him out please

I wonder if the people who made the decision to have Le Serrafim perform at Coachella fully understood what kind of conversation might potentially follow that performance? Would they make that same decision today?

I as an army i dont call nj spiled vrats since its disrespecting but you saying hybe should have dealt with privately but if one party do a conference about her dispite with hybe and her claims of illit is a copy of nj made by belift and hybe to repoace nj is already have been made public how would anyone expect hybe to do it privately

Unable to defend the NJs' criminal and stupid behavior in any way, you tried to minimize their guilt by placing part of it on Hybe and Ador, which instead behaved in an exemplary manner.

I see you are attributing bad behavior to BSH. Everything I read against that man was clearly falsified. They tried to bring him down in every way without ever being able to prove anything, from plagiarism to payola. But just because everyone says so, it must be true, right? BSH has created such a toxic environment that the BTS staff is still the same after fifteen years. It is so bad in that skyscraper, there is a cafeteria and a doctor's office and a nap room, and his contracts beat the contracts of all the other labels in terms of respect for the worker. And he is definitely sexist, in fact in Hybe we have three female CEOs, with MHJ, including the CEO of BTS. Who has remained in that toxic environment for fifteen years and seems like the image of serenity. But I guess you are referring to the famous documents that BSH wrote on his little school desk, twenty thousand pages. He did not write them, of course. So who? A manager, an employee? Who was paid to write twenty thousand pages of nonsense? You should know that that document, perfectly legal, is a market research done by collecting online comments. A routine document that all companies do. So I have to contradict you: BSH has never created a toxic environment in the workplaces it managed.

1. Everything MHJ and the girls did and said, was for the sole purpose of defrauding Hybe. 2. All the abuse the girls complained about was an attempt to fabricate false evidence against Hybe. 3. Corporations don't have favorite groups, because they have no emotions. All groups must be as profitable as possible. 4. "fragile ego" describes MHJ exactly, while BSH is a man who strings one hit after another. 5. Hybe has never done black propaganda, unlike MHJ. No one ostracized NJ, they eliminated themselves from the entertainment industry by themselves. 6. Legal maneuvers are a right.

Okay this is totally from a NJ fandom perspective. The new tampering evidence that's coming out completely throws your theories/perspectives out side the window.

My problem with NJ’s claim of Hybe mistreatment is that they have yet to discuss what the mistreatment is outside of the BSH lack of greeting, the alleged Illit manager saying ignore Hanni, the firing of MHJ, the correction of the album sales, and not protecting NJ? (Which is based on the alleged Illit plagiarism and the unclear get rid/replace new statement?). If NJ truly feel this is mistreatment ok but why are they not bringing it to court? Most likely this is because these concerns are not enough to negate a contract. If there’s something worse that they don’t want to share with the public that’s fine but vaguely continuing to mention it publicly but still failing to bring Hybe to court is weird. There’s only so many times someone can cry wolf without the public starting to question their intentions. I honestly can’t wait for all of this to go to court. The public statements are not going to solve this issue. I just wish both sides would just stop talking and wait for the judge to decide.

The way fans went from treating this as a serious case to making it a fan war is what proved to me how unserious kpop fans truly are. I've been telling people since day 1 that companies & Ceos (which applies to both MHJ & Bang PD) are not entitled to our sympathy nor do they deserve it. In fact, they've given us more reason to not support them with everything that has come out on both ends. As for the NWJNs, I think some of the critism is valid (especially in regards to supporting a ceo who swept asside a SH case) but it's obvious that some fans still believe in the "perfect victim" narrative & don't understand how gr00ming, abuse, etc. can affect someone's mentality. Victims can make bad decisions but that should not diminish their experiance. This is all to say that we should focus more on the way artists & employees are being treated by both parties & the toxic enviroment Bang PD & MHJ created (without resorting to unnecessary slut shaming).

THANK YOU!!!

All of this could have been avoided if MHJ would have abided by the internal audit when she was a paid CEO!

You made many great points. Still, nwjns, no matter what, are siding with someone who covers up sexual harassment. Not only siding, but fully backing as if she was their own blood mother. Where are their morals on this? It’s ok cause it wasn’t towards them? What if someday it is towards them and mhj decides to do the exact same thing because of public appearances? Not only have they put their own wants above their morals but they might also be victims of something of this nature. And that’s reason enough to not back her so hard. HYBE is this and that. But they don’t wanna leave HYBE. Not really. They just wanna stay with mhj. And if that means leaving HYBE so be it. Also, I’m sorry I CANNOT take anyone who says HYBE was trying to get rid of nwjns seriously. If anything, with mhj gone, they could finally start taking all the credit for nwjns success. Nwjns are incredibly popular, HYBE would not miss on that bag are y’all crazy? It’s baffling to me how y’all push this baseless rumor. Y’all can’t seem to agree if HYBE is greedy or if HYBE wants to sabotage its on money.

Waaaw the first video that’s actually giving genuine criticism and not just hating.

The thing with seoulite tv is that his critique of the whole situation is spot on and if you've listened to a bunch of his vids in full are actually quite nuanced, but he tends to be so harsh with his wording , many times i pause his vids and i'm like damn he really just said that huh? So yeah he could take it down a notch or 2 , and for some reason i feel like the girls have seen his videos too and i think he does tend to be really mean about it all, and should give them a bit more grace...other than that , his commentaries are good imo

Why I no longer care for NJ? Cause they choose a side. A side that bashed on all these other groups that led to internet hate towards them, which means NJ agrees with that

Critical thinking is indeed dead.

Hybe owns new jeans they don't have to prove they'll manage them better than mhj since new jeans already signed to ador which is owned mostly by hybe these questions should be asked before they signed their career away they're not sighed to mhj if they wanted to be with her that bad they shouldn't have used hybe's money Idk why you're saying that more could be said about hanni's case but she chose not for some reason?! Just go back look at her attitude tell me if you see a real victim. You're ignoring the actual criticism of that national assembly hearing I suggest you learn more about it how corrupt it was seriously hanni has no ground and yet you still chose to stand with her Idk where to start 🥴 The girls are victims for sure kpop is based on exploitation of minors but there goes new jeans giving power to one of the worst ceo mhj. It is possible for a victim to become an oppressor herself after all humans are born good and turn bad from traumas. Being a victim at some point shouldn't be a valid justification to stand with another oppressor just cause it benefits them. Just save yourself and don't play their filthy game You're forgetting how much fans supported new jeans but they're criticising them now only after they spoke up and made the wrong choices If you really don't want to support horrible ceos don't support those who support them

I think the term “company Stan” is a tactic used when anyone disagrees or has an opposing viewpoint of a fandom/group. It’s become a joke.

Nothing se0ullite tv said was terrible. Sleeping with your bosses to get ahead is looked down upon universally.. This video seems to be "both sides are terrible" with flimsy evidence. To give this story a "both sides" view , you have to give one side a lot of grace and the other none of barely any. First hybe never has managed new jeans....... This video is setting up a case that hybe is a horrible company with filmsy stuff and has mistreated njs on a personal level when hybe is not directly in charge of new jeans . Hybe is a MULTI - LABEL company. Whatever mistreatment new jeans went through was from mhj and ador. Hybe has the best working conditions in the Korean entertainment industry. They were just awarded highly the end of the last year. Look it up. New jeans promised they would announce even more mistreatment under hybe after their livestream. Hanni just added more hybe execs ignored her since debut. If we're going to " both sides" this then don't forget mhj and her cohorts were planning in kkt to have njs & their parents say they were ignored by hybe execs. That's very coincidental... This ignoring can't or hasnt been proven and you have to take in part Korean culture as well with the hierarchy age system there. Not even a witness can vouch new jeans and their parents are telling the truth?? Most of the claims lack context and all lack evidence. Also I lean to not believe it bc hybe gave more money to ador than source and belift COMBINED..... Njs were called payola jeans for YEARS. I as a non-fan even defended njs telling haters to leave them alone & they're jealous. Now we all are supposed to believe they didn't get tons a funding, more advertising opportunities than any other hybe group excluding BTS, had the fastest advertising and ambassador deals right after debut, tons of playlisting, autoplaying, etc. last that's all njs has said as mistreatment regarding hybe. Also kb and akp are NOT reputable at all. They routinely report fake news and those are your sources.. watch this comment get deleted

shut up loser

I don't know, I'm here for Changmin ❤

Also, I’m not trying to sound like a “HYBE stan” but the “ignoring” thing happened once, not a multiple time issue

The ostracization, interference, negative mediaplay, and mistreatment has been going on for over 2.5 years,, not just toward Hanni but also other members, Min Hee-Jin, ADOR staff, producers and directors. Bunnies who follow them every day know a lot more than most about what their group has been suffering than most, as shown by your comment.

Well, the jokes about sleeping to the top exist BECAUSE of her texts about her plans to use sex as a weapon- that’s why!

Hanni claims that she was ignored ONCE. And it's a "he said she said" considering that the manager she was accusing and ILLIT both denied that such thing happened. Considering that Hanni often mishears korean words, there's a chance that she just misheard the manager who wasn't even talking to her, but talking with ILLIT.