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Brian Timmons
United States
Приєднався 10 жов 2013
I've been doing woodworking as a hobby for a number of years, and used to do it as a side business . I got burned out on the tedium of making mundane items, so recently my focus has turned to building instruments. With my lifelong love of classical music, my next goal is starting to learn violinmaking, which I consider the Mount Everest of woodworking. I hope you enjoy following along as I fumble towards self actualization.
Re-Doing the Scroll, Part I - The Template
Measure twice… #violin #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #stradivarius #strad #woodworking #wood #woodworker #til #todayilearned #science #music #acoustic #acoustics #handtools #handmadecraft #handmade #violintok #violatok #cellotok #violinist #violist #cellist #carving #woodcarving #carved #fibonacci #sharp #sharpen #sharpening
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The Violin's Bass Bar, and Waxing Philosophical
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I explain a little bit about the bass bar and its function, and then I get all rambling and philosophical. #violin #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #woodworking #wood #woodworker #til #todayilearned #science #music #acoustic #acoustics #diy #diywoodworking #diylutherie #woodcarving #carving #carvingtools #carvingkn...
Making My First Violin - Part 3
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On to the edge profile, purfling, carving out the inside of the plates, and finishing this installment with the f-holes. The audio is inconsistent due to using my camera's timelapse function, which doesn't record sound. Although I increased my camera's recording resolution, so blowing this up to full screen is a visual treat, my garish amateur mistakes notwithstanding. #violin #viola #cello #cl...
Forging New Tools For Violinmaking
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My friend Kris at Sandoval Forge made some new blades for me to use in violinmaking. Today we spend most of our time forging a new gouge. sandoval_forge #violin #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #woodworking #wood #woodworker #til #todayilearned #science #music #acoustic #acoustics #diy #diywoodworkin...
Ask Me Anything - 1
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I answer several questions from viewers on my TikTok channel. If you'd like any questions answered for a possible future AMA, let me know here! #violinmaking #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #woodworking #wood #woodworker #til #todayilearned #science #music #acoustic #acoustics #diy #diywoodworking #diylutherie #wo...
CNC For Making Violins?
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It’s complicated! #cnc #cncrouter #cncwoodworking #violin #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #stradivarius #strad #woodworking #wood #woodworker #til #todayilearned #science #music #acoustic #acoustics
One or two? Does it matter?
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It really doesn’t! #violin #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #stradivarius #strad #woodworking #wood #woodworker #til #todayilearned #science #music #acoustic #acoustics
Wait, Violins are CARVED?!
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Carving the beautiful, complex curves of the violin family is literally the ONLY way to do this right. You could put a piece of wood in a CNC machine, but it makes no allowances for the subtle peculiarities of that piece. A good maker listens to what the wood wants to do. #violin #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #w...
Because I'm a lunatic...
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My life situation precludes me from moving away to a multi-year school, but I'm determined to learn this, anyway! One day, my desire to succeed somehow surpassed my fear of failure. #violin #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #woodworking #wood #woodworker #til #todayilearned #science #music #acoustic #acoustics #diy ...
Making My First Violin - Part 2
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Because I’m a lunatic, I’m making my first violin without professional training. #violin #viola #cello #classicalmusic #baroque #luthier #violinmaking #orchestra #orchestral #violinist #violist #cellist #stradivarius #strad #woodworking #wood #woodworker #til #todayilearned #science #music #acoustic #acoustics
Installing purfling, shop banter, etc.
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Installing purfling, shop banter, etc.
Aspiring Violinmaker Goes Tool Hunting
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Aspiring Violinmaker Goes Tool Hunting
My first handmade longbow. It shoots!
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My first handmade longbow. It shoots!
I'm thrilled and so exited for you!
Nice shape
@@duozheng6076 Thank you.
The old masters didn’t have sand paper, so there’s that lol
I personally think it helps to realise the base bar is a spring. Too rigid a spring while supporting the base foot of the bridge, will not transmit the vibrational impulses from the bridge , into the upper and lower portions of the top plate. Too weak, and it might not fulfill its structural function. I use the techniques developed by the late Carlene Hutchins , to “tune” the base bar, because my hearing is not good enough.
@@californiadreamin8423 Very true, all of this!
Find your anchor point
My brothers violin does not only have a one piece back but it actually has a one piece front as well. Very close grained too.
@@erlixerlix7573 Unless it’s maker specified it as a one piece front, I doubt it. You want a bookmatched front because the resonance patterns are symmetrical. It may LOOK like one piece due to a well executed glue joint in the center.
@BrianTimmonsTX It is actually one piece, there is no glue joint. It is probaby more than 200 years old but the master is unknown. Not a particularly expensive instrument though.
@ Ah, so more of a folk instrument. That might explain it.
Most Intersting topic .I like your pilosophy , myself i did start a repair project of a violin ,though some people consider i am waisting time ,it is not their life . I am anxious to hear your intrument player wich hopefully is not too far in time I do not wish you luck i think that with your drive you do not need it Coming across your published video is a real treat
@@jobobd12no Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate you taking the time to comment. 😄
Perhaps Karolina Protsenko Violin ( UA-cam) for “player” on a loan basis?
Thank you and UA-cam brings me this great video
@@kelvin513 I’m glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the kind words!
@@BrianTimmonsTX I don’t think it is just out of pure kindness but I found your vibe and idea is inspiring and rock n roll. Anyone with the tradition art of violin could comment on the work, but you work on your own idea, this is where something new begins.
@kelvin513 I suppose the aspect of, “screw the odds, I’m gonna do it anyway” is pretty rock & roll, now that I think about it in those terms. 😆
I love this video series. Without it I never would’ve known how many small elements actually go in to making a violin. Tbf I thought it was just a hollow box of flat pieces of wood😅
@@christianvikelgaardliebst9768 Glad you’re enjoying it! It’s a delightfully complex subject.
Great video
@@jamescopeland5358 Thank you.
Amazing work, thank you for showing us.
Good recovery on the split out. Don't feel bad, on my last build I have the grain running in the wrong direction in the bassbar, horrizontal instead of vertical. :D Reading through the comments I can't resist commenting on the center height placement, there is no Stradivari with an original bassbar in place, they have all been replaced with modern standards by luthiers who are qualified to work on them. Somewhere in my notes I have written the standard measurements but I would have to go digging for them. Your's looks right on!
@@CooperViolins Thank you! Yeah, the grain on this bass bar kinda lifted up on me, contributing to the split. It glued back down without any issues, at least.
"That thing you're thinking about doing, maybe you ought to do more than just think about it. Maybe you owe it to yourself to give it a shot" That part really resonated with me. I spent a long time just surviving, but one of the ideas that helped me out of that rut was just allowing myself to be an amateur, or as Adam Savage might put it, giving myself permission to suck at my hobbies. I feel more free now that I allow myself to make the crappiest wood joints imaginable than I ever did when I would just get up, eat, work and sleep and spend my free time watching TV.
Glad that struck home for someone. It's the advice I'd give my past self if I had a time machine. “In the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert’s there are few” ― Shunryu Suzuki
2:07. Wrong. The highest spot on bass bar of Stradivari violins was not exactly under the bridge, it was shifted to the lower bouts for the reason. And shaping of the bass bar should be combined with turning it to the right tone.
For period instruments, you are probably correct. I'm working off of modern advice and specs, and admittedly from people that know much more than myself.
@@BrianTimmonsTX First of all, what does "modern" mean in the world of violins? For me "modern" means the tradition of more than century ago. For you it may be something more recent? What if modern advice and specs are not for achieving the best sound result? Anyway, I'm not trying to teach you, just saying, that violin has as many secrets as parts, and bass bar not an exclusion. I'm just sad to see the decline in people's knowledge about the subject.
@ Jeez, man. I just started learning this stuff. Sorry to have offended you by trying.
Somehow the tail end of my narration got cut off when I said to stay tuned until next time. Weird.
congrats on your homemade thickness caliper
Thanks. It's a little janky. It works ok for now, but may upgrade sometime in the future.
Good job fixing the blowouts! Re-read Roger's article, I think he inlays the purfling full depth on a flat ledge and then cuts the channel.
@@CooperViolins Really…I might’ve remembered that part wrong.
@@CooperViolins And also thank you. That repair had me sweating bullets at first. My purfling pick is now ground down to be much more narrow.
@@BrianTimmonsTX I'm enjoying watching your build. I haven't made any progress on mine lately, it's been too cold and it gets dark too soon. I have a couple week off work soon so I hope to make some progress then.
how can you place the nicks on the f holes without knowing the perfect scale length and intonation for bridge placement?
@ I used f-hole templates that were placed according to the layout of this model. The templates included the notches.
Damn good work! I'll have to make a blacksmith friend of my own sometime, those look incredible.
Thank you! I sure wish I had knives this nice when I cut my first f-holes. Would've made the work a lot cleaner.
Don't apologize for the horizontal format. It is clearly the superior orientation in every possible and conceivable way.
@@darjanator I posted it on TikTok first. Hence the note about format. Forgot to mention that here!
Hi Brian, I've made archtop guitars or hollow bodied jazz guitars as some may know them, and they're made quite similar to how violins are made. The only real differences are the size and shape obviously, and the bracing inside the body. Theres also no soundpost.
Nice!
@@peterjames2580 Glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!
@@BrianTimmonsTX As a mandolin and guitar hobbie maker I enjoy the path you a on! Thanks for sharing.
Jam on it brother!!!
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I want to build a cello. But I know myself well and won’t finish it. I’ll be in the market for one soon. We should connect.
@@Workingman-ww3lw I’m a cellist myself! I’d have to make one first before I feel that the instrument is of a high enough caliber to put my name on. I’m still working on violin #1, and a friend has me booked to make him a viola next. I’m thinking a cello should happen after that.
@@BrianTimmonsTX Thanks for your concern. I can tell your work is just fine, it will get better as you go. I’ve been playing a few months on a rental made out of plywood. Anything you build will sound better than it. Contact me when you get your first born finish.
@@Workingman-ww3lw Shoot me an email at brianmakesit@gmail.com so we can talk further. 😀
Oh common, because you want somethinh its doesnt mean you could make it. You are so talentted dude😅
I could just buy one, but where's the fun in that? As for the notion of talent, I will quote the late, great Bob Ross. “Talent is a pursued interest. Anything you're willing to practice, you can do.” To the extent that "talent" grants one an advantage in certain abilities, talent is useless without the sheer determination and dedication to whatever your artform is. It's not a cheat code to greatness. What most people call "talent" is maybe 5% natural inclination, and 95% dedication. 🙂
I own three violins. One is a one piece back and is blond (Whitish not stained), the other is two piece with traditional staining, the third is a carbon fiber. I believe it's the taste and experience along with instrument care, not so much the technique of building. The best tip is to play them before buying. It's all about what plays well for you.
Absolutely. The care of an instrument is crucial to its longevity and ability to play well. To the extent that instruments have different character, it's mostly down to the choice of wood, coupled with the luthier's ability to use the wood's characteristics to achieve the ideal result.
Find it interesting that you mentioned Graham Vincent violins. I admire his skills and as a matter of fact I'm the dude that he made those 2 wormy chestnut fiddles for. These can be seen in a few of his vids. Workmanship is great and they sound beautiful and are easy to play. Graham has a wealth of info that's very useful!
@@yankee_doodle Ah, then you’re one lucky dude! If he ever made cellos and I had money to burn, though…
I would say that while there's no significant differences in sound, the big difference is that one-piece backs are more a bit more more aesthetically pleasing and more prestigious. They used to be more common on old instruments, but as old growth, quality wood has become more scarce, most makers opt for the equally-as-good but cheaper option of using two-piece backs. A big hunk of high quality tone wood is going to cost more than two smaller pieces. It's ultimately a practical cost saving decision. So while there's no functional differences between the two, modern day players with one-piece instruments have bragging rights that their instrument is made in a more old-fashioned way and that it was made out of more valuable material. It's *aesthetic* AND *pretentious* , everything that us string divas aspire to be. That's why, if you have a one-piece back, it's your *duty* to show it off as frequently as possible, because the world needs to know that you really are better than everyone around you.
@@andreweth8301 Nailed it. I saw a recent video of maker Sofia Vettori French polishing a new CELLO with a one piece back. I mean, damn.
you dont need any thickness around the f holes, only the soundpost area is a milimeter thicker. the bass bar will stiffen the top alot.
Yeah, I'm seeing lots of conflicting approaches the more I dig into this. I'm following a template from makingtheviolin.com but will use different plans for my next one.
you dont need any thickness around the f holes, only the soundpost area is a milimeter thicker. the bass bar will stiffen the top alot.
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The struggle is real!
To learn how to swim - the best is ... go and try to swim. Lot's of experience will come later. Real violin making secrets are not written in the book, even master teacher will not reveal you everything, because in the world of concurrency (aka capitalism) you will be the direct competitor of your teacher. Also purfling is not only for the edge protection. But you'll find it out later with experience. FYI: The maker, which made less than 50 instruments is considered a young maker with the corresponding price tag. Of cause there are exceptions.
If being organized is a downside to ADHD... I'll keep it!
No, the ADHD is a huge impediment to what I'm trying to do! Adderall really helps, as well as trying to keep motivated.
Have you talked to Kirk Violins?
@@TheGotoGeek Can’t say that I have. I’m in Texas and Google says they’re in Montana. Why mention that shop in particular, if I may ask?
First of all, where did you get these plate thickness patterns? They are incorrect for new instrument. And you are holding plates at wrong place while tapping. Not sure what are you trying to hear.
Must admit, my first violin was worse.
@@robotustra Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. How many have you made by now?
@@BrianTimmonsTX 17 made, and about 10 repaired. But I had a training in this subject.
@@robotustra Wow! You’re definitely ahead of me in the game. But so is almost everyone. 😄
CNC router can do 90% of roughing violin parts, and the wood type and stiffness can be taken into account with parameterized program. The only missing part will be plates tuning which could take a couple of days. Valuable size? The router size could be 60 cm by 40 cm, and being placed in a box - 2x3 feet. Is it too much of a space? I don't think so. But for sure, to use cnc router for such operation it's needed a lot of time. Like about 2-3 month. But then, the production speed increases form 2 to 3 times. It means that potential income grow the same amount. But you don't need more money, you just need to sit in a silent woodworking shop and meditating on a piece of wood (just kidding) :)
@@robotustra Yeah, it’s a tool like any other, but the expense and my disinterest in learning how to setup, program, and operate a CNC are certainly still factors. As for space, my table saw, dust collector, floor standing drill press, planer, band saw, disc/belt sander all take up a good amount of floor space as it is, I just don’t have the camera pointed that way. And as for the profit consideration, I’m still in the midst of my very first build. I’m probably a few more builds away from valuing my own work enough to sell it to the general public. As it is, rough carving by hand actually doesn’t take all that long! But if I ever look to make this my sole source of income, I may revisit this question later. Thanks for watching and commenting! 😄
I'm a machinist in a cnc shop. Being old school I agree with all you said. Even in the metal working area CNC are not capable of a lot of things. For example the very best machines are still finished by hand using scrapers. Like wood, metals also undergo changes when cut. It can warp as it's being cut just like wood can and no cnc can cope with that. Using scraping techniques you can match surfaces to within a few millionths of an inch, no CNC can do that.
@@billshiff2060 👆This guy gets it.
Why is a double bass better than a violin? - It burns longer.
@@roysutton9592 Certainly a good argument during a cold weather survival situation. 😄
Lol
@@roysutton9592 😂
really lovely video! It was really enlightening to hear another woodworker talk about the whys and wheres and whats of the way they work. As a hand tool enthusiast I 100% related to you when you talked about how loud, dusty, and expensive power tools are lol. Watching your journey into violin making has been really fascinating, I can't wait to see your next video.
@@plush_dolphin746 Thanks so much for the kind words. You actually GET it. 😄
Hello! As a luthier student at the Violin Making School of Cremona, I asked my school masters about this very question, and they explained that there is indeed a difference between a one-piece and a two-piece back. The difference primarily lies in the rigidity of the center joint. In a two-piece back, the center joint is slightly more rigid than the rest of the back. This added rigidity comes from the glue absorption and the glue itself, resulting in a defined zone of stiffness along the joint. In contrast, a one-piece back is more uniform, without a pronounced rigid center. It has a more consistent flexibility throughout, which can be both a challenge and an opportunity during the construction process. While a two-piece back offers greater predictability-thanks to its symmetry and the rigidity of the center joint-a one-piece back requires a more experienced hand, particularly during the thicknessing process, where flexibility and rigidity must be carefully assessed. Ultimately, neither option is inherently better or worse. These are just properties to consider in the later stages of construction, such as arching and thicknessing. A two-piece back might be easier to work with due to its predictability, whereas a one-piece back demands more skill to manage its unique characteristics.
@@nestorvassiliou4955 Fascinating, thank you for writing all that! In light of the structural differences, it is interesting that seemingly no one can identify the two types by sound alone. PS - I envy you studying in Cremona! My life situation (wife, kid, house, day job) precludes me from study in a “proper” environment.
@@BrianTimmonsTX The influence of this parameter is probably among the least significant compared to others like arching, thickness, and so on. However, if you were to compare two violins with exactly the same arching and identical specifications in every other aspect, there would almost certainly be a difference. What kind of difference that would be is difficult to predict, and I doubt anyone could determine it without actual testing. The rigidity in the middle will undoubtedly affect the sound, but it’s not something I would consider a primary concern. Studying in Cremona is definitely a fantastic opportunity. These days, with the wealth of information available online, it’s possible to learn a great deal about violin making independently. I know I did before starting at the school. Like you, I made a violin on my own beforehand-it turned out okay, all things considered. If there’s any way I can help-whether by answering questions or offering advice-please don’t hesitate to ask. P.S. If you haven’t already, I recommend checking out the Maestronet Forum. It’s an excellent resource with many talented and highly esteemed makers who can offer valuable insights. It’s a fantastic place to deepen your understanding of all things related to violin making.
@ I lurk on MaestroNet already. I’m active on Graham Vincent’s FB discussion group. Very good bunch of folks over there, too.
@ Also, thanks for your offer of help, that’s very kind of you!
Hats off to you bro. You are going in the right direction and it looks like know what your doing. Absolutely nothing wrong with being self taught. You appreciate your school of hard knock skills a lot more. It takes patience, determination and discipline to do what your doing and I admire you for it. It will be worth it all when the bow rides the strings for the first time and you will hear the results of your hard work. Well done sir!
@@yankee_doodle Thanks!!! I’ve done my homework, but getting actual experience into my fingers is another matter. If I appear to know what I’m doing, it’s the result of delusion and unearned confidence. So far, anyway.😆
Thank you for the info I love the way you describe things!
@@lioraartemis7486 That’s very kind of you to say! Cheers.
Interesting stuff .. although I play bass mostly I’ve always been interested in the construction of all wood instruments 🤘👍
@@gertimmons5483 Hey, nice surname you’ve got there. 😀
@ 😀thank you Mr Timmons, all the way from Kildare Ireland 🇮🇪
@ Nice, Texas here!
@ I’ve been to Texas and loved it, I have family in Louisiana.
@ Awesome! I’ve made it abroad to Britain and Wales, but Ireland remains on my to-do list.
I Love the passion you have for learning your craft!
@@matthewtrusler1659 Thanks for the kind words.
Informative , specially the way to heat and bend👍👍👍
@@noelpatrick5074 Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
A one piece back isn't as stable as a two piece back can be.
@@bryantcochran5065 In principle, yes. There are always exceptions depending on the quality of the wood. But yes, generally, quarter cut wood is more stable than slab cut.
I made a violin a few years back. I'd carve away for hours and end up with a huge pile of wood shavings...........and it looked almost the same as when I started 🤣 I used a bit of car exhaust with a blowtorch for bending the sides
I say if it’s stupid but it works, then it’s not stupid!
Found you on imgur, loving these vids :)
@@NekoKotorii Awesome, glad you’re enjoying these!
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