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Simon Gathercole, University of Cambridge
Are the Gospels Anonymous? Historical Evidence and Theological Implications
Lecture presented at Lanier Theological Library, May 2022, as part of the conference "The Pastoral Implications of Pseudonymity and Anonymity in the New Testament," sponsored by the International Reference Library of Biblical Research
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Steve Walton, Trinity College Bristol
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Who's Acts? And Does It Matter? Lecture presented the Lanier Theological Library, May 2022.
Maurice Robinson, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary
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“The Woman taken in Adultery: A Pastoral/ Congregational Quandary.” Lecture held at the Lanier Theological Library, May 20, 2022 The overwhelming majority of Johannine commentators and New Testament textual critics consider the narrative of the woman taken in adultery (the pericope adulterae or PA, Jn 7:53-8:11) to be pseudepigraphical in the sense that it is (a) considered non-Johannine, and (...
Jermo Van Nes, Evangelische Theologische Faculteit, Leuven
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The Ecclesial Implications of 1 Timothy Being a Pseudepigraphon: A Thought Experiment Lecture held at the Lanier Theological Library, May 20, 2022 Of all thirteen New Testament letters attributed to Paul, 1 Timothy has been most disputed by modern scholars for its claim to apostolic authorship. Supposing that biblical scholars advocating the pseudonymity of 1 Timothy are correct, it is argued o...
T J Lang, University of St. Andrews, Scotland, UK
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Unstable Canons and the Fingerprints of Forgery: Introducing Uncomfortable Facts to Unsuspecting Christians Lecture delivered at the Lanier Theological Library, May 19, 2022 This essay is a personal attempt to systematize my thoughts on how to introduce the messiness of “The Bible” to Christians in ecclesial, seminary, and university contexts. The essay begins with a brief history of Christian ...
Lee McDonald, Acadia University - Divinity College, Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Pseudonymous Texts in Antiquity and Today Lecture delivered at the Lanier Theological Library, May 19, 2022 My paper will focus primarily on three issues, namely early Christian use and production of such writings, whether they currently exist among the church’s biblical literature, and how can the church today, with its modern understandings of pseudonymous writings, understand the presence of...
Daniel Gurtner, Gateway Seminary, CA
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The Theory of New Testament Pseudepigraphy in Light of Second Temple Judaism Lecture held at the Lanier Theological Library, May 19, 2022 It is commonplace in New Testament scholarship to regard a number of New Testament books as pseudonymous. The presumption is often put forward that the practice was utilized in early Judaism and simply adopted by early Christians. But such presumptions seldom...
Steven Runge, Grace School of Theology, The Woodlands, USA
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Moving the Goal Posts? The Implications of Disputed Pauline Authorship for Pastoral Ministry Lecture held at the Lanier Theological Library, May 20, 2022 Abstract Over the past several centuries, historians have utilized methodologies developed for establishing the authorship of literary texts to question traditional attributions associated with NT epistles, with mixed results. The claims by so...
Peter Davids, Our Lady of Gaudalupe Priory, Georgetown, USA
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Pseudepigrapha, Anonymity, and the Authority of the Catholic Epistles: An Evangelical-Catholic Perspective While, in a sense, all four gospels and Acts are anonymous and several Pauline letters disputed, the issues of pseudepigraphy and anonymity come together in the Catholic Epistles, which may explain the lack of authority that they seem to have in some areas of the church and in particular t...
Paul Anderson, George Fox University, Newberg, Oregon
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Lecture Title: Anonymous Appellations in the Fourth Gospel-Confirming the Non-Identity of the Beloved Disciple AND the Mother of Jesus?” Abstract While the authorship of the Fourth Gospel has been a contested issue among critical scholars, one of the bases for claiming that the author cannot have been John the Apostle is the fact of the Beloved Disciple’s anonymous appellation. However, the mot...
Panel Discussion with Simon Gathercole, Madison Pierce, and Murray Smith May 20, 2022
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A panel discussion with Simon Gathercole, Madison Pierce, and Murray Smith at the conference: The Pastoral Implications of Pseudonymity and Anonymity in the New Testament. Hosted by the International Reference Library for Biblical Research at the Lanier Theological Library, Houston, TX. May 20, 2022
Panel Discussion with Vuyani Sindo, Dan Gurtner, and Sydney Tooth at the Lanier Library
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A panel discussion among scholars for the conference: The Pastoral Implications of Pseudonymity and Anonymity in the New Testament. Sponsored by the International Research Library for Biblical Research. Hosted at the Lanier Theological Library, Houston, TX.

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  • @Brandon-yu9my
    @Brandon-yu9my Місяць тому

    Great lecture!

  • @marksutton5540
    @marksutton5540 2 місяці тому

    Wow!

  • @igregmart
    @igregmart 3 місяці тому

    The King James version is THE HOLY BIBLE for English speaking people.

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law 5 місяців тому

    Muratorian fragment is way later in date then usually asserted.

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law 5 місяців тому

    The obsession with Jesus date of birth/death sees to be a throwback to the gospel of Augustus.

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law 6 місяців тому

    Gathercole - People don't live and die by Plato.

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law 6 місяців тому

    Theophilus is a highly suspicious title.

  • @stevenvalett1231
    @stevenvalett1231 7 місяців тому

    Who gave these people the authority to determine what is included and excluded in the Sacred Scriptures!

  • @leonardbramhill6889
    @leonardbramhill6889 Рік тому

    Go to chick publications he has demonstrated that the critical text is a fraud which is the text that’s causing all this confusion. God is not the author of confusion.

  • @jay.rhoden
    @jay.rhoden Рік тому

    This was informative, mostly because of the ability to hear how the challengers received and questioned the content. What do you think regarding the challengers? Do you think they were genuinely engaging, or more plain "knee-jerk" reacting with the same standard arguments? It seemed to me that there was literally nothing new here in terms of the response, just the same tired rehearsed backwards and fowrwards.

  • @Pastor-Brettbyfaith
    @Pastor-Brettbyfaith Рік тому

    Thank you for this presentation. May I ask; What happened to Faith? Where is faith and the Holy Ghost in all of this textual critical analyses? Do we still walk by faith? I am reminded of Prov. 3:5-6. “Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him and he shall direct thy paths.” Please tell me where this textual critical argument aligns with the passage quoted? I have studied textual criticism for more than 30 years, yet the deeper I dive into the Modern Critical Text (Alexandrian), the more my spirit cries out for consistency in the text of scripture. Textual criticism causes doubt and confusion for the lay people. I want a Bible that I can trust and knowingly defend as truth. While I have never been, nor will ever be KJVO, the 1611 translation of the Bible is the most consistent text we possess today. The MCT will never be complete! I use the Robinson/Pierpont text in my studies, yet I trust as θεοπνευστος that text which comes from the Byzantine tradition. For me, the text of the Stephanus 1550 NT is the most accurate Greek text I have ever used. I am reminded of these words; 50 years from now, the text of the KJV will be the same. It never changes, yet it has changed the lives of countless souls who have surrendered to God thru it’s timeless consistency. Thanks be to God for his unspeakable gift!

  • @Blues.Fusion
    @Blues.Fusion Рік тому

    The PA is real and bibles that omit or cast doubt on it are fake. If you don't believe this then go ahead and throw that first rock at the woman because you must think you're the righteous one in the group.

  • @PrentissYeates
    @PrentissYeates 2 роки тому

    The Christian Protestant faith is forever reforming. Thus, then is it possible that , to be true to the biblical text, the Christian can and should have confidence in the Byzantine text - as there Canicol historical value in the text- most of the refuted texts , do not come in conflict in doctrine . However, Often critical text is historically subjective subjective in translational decisions that often disavows certain biblical passages and causes more harm than good. Say you have on hand, 5000 consistent maps leading us through a treacherous river passage, and 2 older maps that lead up down a tributary, which map does one use?

  • @jda5457
    @jda5457 2 роки тому

    I think it would be good if there is not yet one, to add a course of formal and factual sciences in the theology studies, because it gives the impression that they confuse the scientific procedure with a procedure that gives variable conclusions depending on who applies them. , and a process that has such a failure, for another type of discipline that is considered scientific, would be totally unfeasible. Can't it be said that 85% represents consensus? Can't you say that a text that only appears in a geographical area is local? I wonder, are they really taking scientific criteria?

  • @michaelsinger2921
    @michaelsinger2921 2 роки тому

    Thank you, Pastor Dwayne, for posting this interesting discussion! It would be interesting to determine which of the three "versions" of the PA was regarded as canonical by those church fathers who actually adopted the canon in the Fifth Century. To me, that would carry more weight than the learned doubts of the "academy". In that respect, perhaps the Greek Orthodox GNT text opens the window to the past?

    • @HickoryDickory86
      @HickoryDickory86 9 місяців тому

      The canon had been more or less settled on a formal basis even as early as the fourth century. The Synod of Hippo in 393 promulgated a biblical canon which is more or less identical to the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox canons. This canon was then reaffirmed four years later by the Synod of Carthage in 397. After the Schism, for Roman Catholics the canon is further clarified and settled by the Council of Florence (1431-1449) and the Council of Trent (1545-1563). For Eastern Orthodox, that role was played by the Synod of Jerusalem (1672), which was convoked as a response to Protestantism's encroachment easterward. It should be noted, I think, that all the formal councils held by the Church that preserved the text of Bible have approved of the Apocrypha/Deutero-canon as canonical Scripture. The Protestants, choosing the follow the shorter Hebrew canon, are the ones who innovated upon what the Church received from Christ, his Apostles, and the early Fathers.

  • @treybarnes5549
    @treybarnes5549 2 роки тому

    The idea that they think there has to be footnotes in a bible is ridicules. It was footnotes bibles that made King Jame commission and Authorized the Bible we all have used since. Completely nuts to have a “Holy Bible” on the cover and footnotes full of doubt and confusion throughout.

    • @Dwayne_Green
      @Dwayne_Green 2 роки тому

      That's a double standard though... Apparently the KJV translators felt it was necessary to add footnotes. Take a look at Psalm 12:6-7 in a KJV facsimile.

    • @treybarnes5549
      @treybarnes5549 2 роки тому

      @@Dwayne_Green It’s my understanding that not having any footnotes was apart of the criteria in making the KJB. It was vetted and made standard in the latter editions and has been and accepted the bible for 400 years. My grandmother would have thought it foolish that this would have been acceptable but in her time people wouldn’t have accepted a lot of what passes for progressive and acceptable social behavior. The footnote in Modern Bibles are also much different. They introduce doubt and are condescending the Majority Text. The modern progressive scholarship are down right rotten in their approach and agendas.

    • @mrtdiver
      @mrtdiver Рік тому

      @@treybarnes5549 "It’s my understanding" - You do not understand. I can tell that you do not know the biblical languages. Right now I am translating the minor prophets. Sometimes the Hebrew lexica (dictionaries) disagree. Which one do I choose? I would want you right beside me so I can chose the perfect word each and every time, because the textual decisions aren't 100% clear cut and simple.

    • @treybarnes5549
      @treybarnes5549 Рік тому

      @@mrtdiver wowYou are right, I read english not so good. that sound like a lot of work. Why does everyone who reads greek make the english say something else? Same greek, different english? And that’s why the KJV is to be the standard. once you finish there will be nothing like it.

    • @mrtdiver
      @mrtdiver Рік тому

      @@treybarnes5549 I watched a video from Mark Ward that might help: How Different Are the TR and the Critical Text? See for Yourself in English. I can't post links, but if you copy and paste that title it should work. I'm not sure if I understand what you said. But yes, the KJV is an excellent translation. No new translation will sound like it because it uses old Elizabethan language. What I found online: "The language in which Shakespeare wrote is referred to as Early Modern English, a linguistic period that lasted from approximately 1500 to 1750. The language spoken during this period is often referred to as Elizabethan English or Shakespearian English."

  • @svenskbibel
    @svenskbibel 2 роки тому

    He based his exaggerated conclusion at the end not from science and basic text criticism, but from long history, divine providence, and such things. A good and fair presentation at the beginning, but his own conclusion - strange and not based on strict text critical evaluation.

    • @dtwoodsurgery
      @dtwoodsurgery 2 роки тому

      Text critical “science” arises from a certain set of assumptions. And at its basic level is subjective and inconclusive

  • @jamessheffield4173
    @jamessheffield4173 2 роки тому

    Another point is that on that view you would have to regard the accounts of the Man as being legends. Now, as a literary historian, I am perfectly convinced that whatever else the Gospels are they are not legends. I have read a great deal of legend and I am quite clear that they are not the same sort of thing. They are not artistic enough to be legends. From an imaginative point of view they are clumsy, they don’t work up to things properly. Most of the life of Jesus is totally unknown to us, as is the life of anyone else who lived at that time, and no people building up a legend would allow that to be so. Apart from bits of the Platonic dialogues, there are no conversations that I know of in ancient literature like the Fourth Gospel. There is nothing, even in modern literature, until about a hundred years ago when the realistic novel came into existence. In the story of the woman taken in adultery we are told Christ bent down and scribbled in the dust with His finger. Nothing comes of this. No one has ever based any doctrine on it. And the art of inventing little irrelevant details to make an imaginary scene more convincing is a purely modern art. Surely the only explanation of this passage is that the thing really happened? The author put it in simply because he had seen it. C.S. Lewis, "What Are We to Make of Jesus Christ?" (1950)