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Liftguy 30
Приєднався 9 лис 2011
Lifts and other relics
Express Smith Major Steven’s Mod to ULP, Round guides with Caster oil lubed gearbox
Express Smith Major Steven’s Mod to ULP, Round guides with Caster oil lubed gearbox
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1956 express elelevator (originally with A+P Steven’s wood brake shoes)
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1956 express elelevator (originally with A P Steven’s wood brake shoes)
1957 Express elevator 2 speed AC slip ring motor
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1957 Express elevator 2 speed AC slip ring motor
DMR elevator basic info and manual and silverstat switch
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DMR elevator basic info and manual and silverstat switch
Otis Hydro (vintage controller) Elevator
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Otis Hydro (vintage controller) Elevator
Quad PMR340 TX destination and 1 MX mod
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Quad PMR340 TX destination and 1 MX mod
Nasty hydro scissor disabled platform lift
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Nasty hydro scissor disabled platform lift
Express SMS (no governor) slip ring rotor manual doors
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Express SMS (no governor) slip ring rotor manual doors
Hydraulic car lift with three stage upside down synchronised dual rams hydro elite
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Hydraulic car lift with three stage upside down synchronised dual rams hydro elite
FIAM Flip Flop Relay Elevator selector
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FIAM Flip Flop Relay Elevator selector
Basement drive Otis spec90 elevator shaft
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Basement drive Otis spec90 elevator shaft
FIAM TER 2AC with relay flip flop logic selector
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FIAM TER 2AC with relay flip flop logic selector
Shaft view Fiam and two SGB Mod Elevators
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Shaft view Fiam and two SGB Mod Elevators
This is what a hydraulic tank does when it’s low on oil! (Pumping air)
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This is what a hydraulic tank does when it’s low on oil! (Pumping air)
Fiam Goods lift with 2 SGB mod elevator machines
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Fiam Goods lift with 2 SGB mod elevator machines
1960 Express 2 speed AC slip ring rotor resistance control elevator car
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1960 Express 2 speed AC slip ring rotor resistance control elevator car
Think I know which one this is. Saw it through the window. On a little side street
What's the brand of the pump? GMV, Hydroware, Blain/Leistritz or Bucher Hydraulics?
It’s called a Hydroelite as it has a closed loop control system with a servo valve but the pump is GMV
@liftguy30 Hydroware/GMV mix then.
@@liftguy30 Is it the same pump as this video? ua-cam.com/video/hxRDQuVj-xI/v-deo.htmlsi=y9HzKmf-akTd4Qzy
Pretty much, that one has a seperate control system
@@liftguy30is it the same as this one ? ua-cam.com/video/-utNy_mUON8/v-deo.htmlsi=q5EynKD0otFou50N
Can you do a video of the machine room for the Yellow Lifts?
@@liftrailphotographyinnz3992 ua-cam.com/video/pIotT7l0sGY/v-deo.htmlsi=XxrsKRuSzMudrPF8 This is before the Mod
Happy new year mate 🇬🇧
@PhilipCollins-b3h right back at ya!
I just finished installing a custom residential elevator for a client. They would like to make a working floor indicator dial if possible. Your video is very similar in concept. I would like to know what components you used to make yours work.
www.cirrusinternational.com/hall-lanterns-indicators. These are probably what we used
The machine and controller are in very good condition and working great being nearly 70 yrs old. 400 VAC 3P controller is drawing only 20A. I have seen 2:1 roping with sheaves (top of cab each end) It's interesting the machine/driven sheave are offset from the dead hitched ropes anchored into the ceiling. One's I am familiar with w/ the single sheave top of cab and counterweight and defector sheave are in line. With a slight angle of the machine. How are the ropes which pass over the driven sheaves anchored to the cab? The most recent configuration I saw was a modification of an MRL moving the comp sheaves to the top of the cab dead hitching the rope ends from the machine and counterweight.
@@TheTheo58 they only anchor to the car if the roping is 3/1 or a an odd number, for even numbers it is always anchored to the slab etc
1 is up 2 is down…… that may not be the original controller as the building appears to be much older
Interesting, based the lables above the inside buttons and on the motor, his appears to at least partly be Pickerings Lift - a company established in the UK all the way back in 1854. The company was known for being a reputable lift manufacturer for many years. Whilst they are still going, they're now really only known for being a distributor of other others, rather than actually manufacturing their own, and they only serve the UK market.
That is a beauty
So ECC was the distributor of FIAM in New Zealand? I always thought it was GEC who have done it like in Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong.
@@idl3k_elev ECC (Electric Construction Company) is a small New Zealand Company, they installed Express, Fiam and several other brands (including their own designs up until 1990 when Schindler purchased them for their Elevator Business, ECC still exists and sells lighting equipment
@liftguy30 I looked up Schindler's historical publication that I found on the internet and you're right, they took over ECC in 1989 along with T.L. Jones Ltd. That's probably how they first established their presence in the NZ market.
Finally some quality vintage elevator content
good videos just subscribed 👌
Speaking of slip-rings, I saw marketing for a brushless DC Dyson the other day that said "No carbon brushes means no carbon emissions!" lol :)
Well…ekchuelly you do get carbon particles from brushes 🤓 But yeah that’s blatant misinformation and marketing lie. I would report it to the FTC.
Why is it that this one has 5 inductor switches compared to the usual 3 if it only runs at two-speed?
@Lift.Tracker ZS does the counting (two pulses per floor) 2US and 2DS does the change over point from high speed to slow speed, and 1US and IDS do the stopping depending on direction
@ I see. So is it because it’s such an old model that they hadn’t integrated both up and down slowing and stopping into 1 inductor, making it have just 3 in total?
@Lift.Tracker correct, to do so required a lot more relay logic and if you had short floors you may need the slowing steps too close together or even overlapping which wouldn’t be possible with only one inductor per direction. Most also had a “2S” inductor for door zone, this one didn’t as the original doors had a retiring cam to unlock them, so the door open circuit was integrated with the lock relays so unless relays “41” and “42” (locks) dropped the doors would not open, so when the doors were modernised I had to install an optical switch to run a door zone otherwise the lift would open the doors wherever it stopped (and potentially rip the landing pickups off if in the wrong place).
I’ve filmed that one! I know because of the motor. That one is nice
Spec 60VF was a product of Nippon OTIS in Japan and was widely shipped to many Asian countries between the late 1980s and mid 1990s. Didn't know that the model had made it all the way to New Zealand.
Quite a few were installed here, very reliable (not so much now), parts are getting difficult to find
I remember back in the day no top of car inspection just a toggle stop switch and no shaft lights
@@philipcollins3849 still plenty out there just like that, some still don’t have pit stop switches
Maybe insurance companies are more stringent in the uk or less in NZ
@@philipcollins3849 insurance in this country are not interested in elevators, completely opposite of the UK etc
Well made
So those 'steps' at the beginning when starting, is to make acceleration smoother? Seems pretty intuitive doing this with only a 2 speed AC motor.
@@musiclabmn It makes it much smoother and draws a lot less current from the mains, same when the the slowing kicks in, most two speed machines are just done with resistors in the feed, effectively making them four speed, these however have 2 steps in the slow speed motor and up to six on the high.
Your videos are awesome! 😃 You'd be surprised how much I'm learning about those units you've posted on your channel. I've seen a little bit of Schindler & Otis machines around and about thanks to technicians, but your videos really do go into detail as to the inner workings of these. As I'm over the ocean in Australia, I don't have that much knowledge regarding Express lifts, for example, so it's always good to see how things vary.
A solenoid as a control point... Brilliant! We didn't need to computerize every last damn thing. That is proving to be an expensive mistake.
Massive? Thats the same size as American two-stop units, if not smaller! 😂 I've a machine that was over 2 meters tall and long, equipped with dual 50 HP motors, which operated a 12-story lift with a 5-ton capacity up to a rooftop bar. It had a flow rate of 1230 LPM and stored over 1400 liters of oil. It was a dual jack holeless roped system, and all the components were located underneath the power unit for easy maintenance. It was an MEI DT-221-TALL machine. 2019 machine, and unsurprisingly breaks down often.😂
Only worked on a triplex in London. They were on their last legs. They only ever pre opened the doors in the down direction as they overshot in the up direction and relevelled to floor. When we ripped them out and replaced them Kone SCD we found they had been running slow. They were upside down machines. Tester turned the first one up to full speed the noise of all those wheels frightened the living daylights out of the modernisation engineer.
@@clivecoles1288 the switches on the selector could be set for a different pattern or pre open distance in each direction, 1mm on the switch was about 6 inches in the shaft however, most of the SCD stuff is getting ripped out here now.
Yes the KONE SCD was ripped when the building changed use and became student accomadation KONE installed high rise monospace
Thanks for a good dose of nostalgia. I came out of the industry back in 2000, just after Otis destroyed Express here in the UK. I'd worked for a bunch of companies before I ended up with Express, and it was standard practice that when the company that installed a lift finally lost the service contract, they would strip the manuals and diagrams out. I built my own library of odds and sod over the years, but when I first got my hands on a proper copy of one of those red binders, I was blown away. My last few years, I was office based & one of my tasks was updating the technical data folder - taking out the obsolete pages and putting in the new. I loved reading that stuff, and the detail was amazing. I remember to this day that there was a multi-page document just dedicated to the approved way to twist together 2 electrical wires of different sizes. The sad part was that, as field engineers, we were never even told that stuff existed. Thanks for your video's and the chance to relive some old memories of when I was young and thought myself invincible 🙂
@@TheShinyGuru When I started one of our “tuners” gave me a folder to learn all the relay designations, like you it wasn’t until years later I realised there were detailed manuals available, we never left them on site so competitors couldn’t get the information, the diagrams however should remain the owners property. Otis remove any brake releases and hand winding equipment here when they lose a site which is not cool. It is amazing gear to work on or with, the new stuff is junk compared to it
Absolutely fascinating! There are still some of these systems kicking around here in the USA but they are disappearing fast.. amazing things engineers were able to solve before microprocessors
Those in the US are just Westinghouse DMRs unfortunately. Express DMRs appear to be extinct in the UK, and I’m not even sure if there’s any left in NZ (or other countries)
When you get failed boards that you can't source replacements for, do you send them anywhere for component-level repair? I'm in Nelson and I've fixed a few boards in my time... none of them elevator controls though (so far)
@@pete3897 I used to fix the express boards (mostly when someone had put a wire in the wrong place) if you have proper drawings then anything is possible, modern stuff is just throw away these days and most are too small to repair with surface mount technology, during covid when we couldn’t get anything delivered I went back to repairing circuit boards at component level.
The yellow spool in the thumbnail made me think of Casper the ghost! lol :) Just the bolts on the top kinda made it look like a face..
Are u telling me that you won't show it working 💀
@@Antonio-qm3bi It hardly gets used, I do know how to put calls in with the tool but it is a tedious process!
Y'all have Otis series 1's in Australia?!?! Those are very common here in the US. My high school literally has 2 of them, and it's only less than a 10 minute drive from my house. One of them was installed in 1995, and the other one was installed in 1997, but you need a key to call them, which I have lol.
This is New Zealand, and yes - Series 1s are quite rampant here. A lot of our S1 installs are hydros like this one with a flush-mounted panel; I’m not sure how common the Elevonic models are anymore.
How did you we were all asleep 💤 only some of the time 😊🇬🇧
@@philipcollins3849 over the years many have been caught sleeping in machine rooms (or doing worse!)
I love seeing the decorations in the elevator. You rarely see decorations in elevators here in the US.
@@MrEngineer20051 this is a care home with most of the rooms on the top floor with the kitchen on the bottom, it gets a lot of use
I have always wondered, what do you do if you're on top of an MRL elevator, and you go up to the very top of the shaft where the motor is (like you did in the video), and it refuses to move? That just sounds scary.
You carry a phone and make sure it works! The modern ones don’t even have a roof trap exit
I have never seen one of these before. I got sort of an idea of the function of this device, was the DC input via the output of the MG set? Sounds like a more advanced leveling field found in the controller of high rise DC gear-less machines.
door drive?
No, this motor adjusts the resistance feeding the reactor circuit for speed control
Nice equipment
Like that the original architect though ahead, and put the beams for a crawler crane in there, along with an actual access for lifting up lift gear as well, making your work so much easier when doing upgrades or cable replacement. guess they built out one shaft first, as a way to allow the rest to be lifted up without making a tower crane spend days lifting stuff up for the rest. Guess J was first, probably used as good lift now, seeing as the others are identical but different controllers.
I really appreciate all your videos, but my neck and heart hurts now enormously. I suggest to take more care to recording and to review the video before uploading.
@@Przekaznikownia done from my phone, was horizontal to start with as looking down at the diagram, I can’t change this from the phone app but will fire up a pc and see if I can figure out how to rotate it
Cuantos y cuantos recuerdos de mis años pasados en esa Empresa Otis.
My neck is a bit crooked now ;-)
Very solid like it’s old employees😂😂😂
Why does the pump run when going down? Hydraulic elevators don't do that.
@@MrEngineer20051 double act g ram, same as a cherry picker or crane etc. ua-cam.com/video/Ri2pAiMQagU/v-deo.htmlsi=P9RTNKZxt9Ovy4oq Calling this an elevator is a bit of a stretch
I was referring to hydraulic elevators in general.
That doesn't sound like it's hydraulic to me.
ua-cam.com/video/Ri2pAiMQagU/v-deo.htmlsi=P9RTNKZxt9Ovy4oq
I saw that video right after this one lol. That just doesn't sound like a hydraulic motor to me, especially since it runs when going down.
Most recent at least have the pump motor immersed in the oil for both cooling and lubrication
The only place I ever personally saw something like that was in the Spanish embassy in London and of course they got away with it because it was on foreign soil
If i renember correctly its a WaygoodOtis and is branded on the doorhandle got in there about 10 years ago for a quick ride
Wonder how these pumps act when low on oil with them being so tiny
@@QEElevators they make a screaming sound and eventually trip the breaker, guess how I know
@liftguy30 oh god😂 try and get a video of that. Completely different than a regular hydro. Assuming it was also this lift as well with that issue😂
We invented the the belt system and the safety gear where? Would the world be without Otis 😂😂
@@philipcollins3849 kone invented the monospace and made life harder for all of us
Oooh that looks and sounds cheap and nasty from the ninties.
How did so many Italian lifts end up in New Zealand?
@@musiclabmn they were much cheaper than the express units due to currency differences between our countries so a good budget option at the time
@ Ahh got it, that makes sense then
Why I'm doing here?
@@jzunreihbritannia going up in the world :)
@liftguy30 oh I thought I was going to end up in the backroom😅
Building and elevator look like a typical Kruschev era soviet building. The lifts in those are hilarious. You can make them bounce.