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Why would you start a video about a dead game with a classist and obtuse rant about how easy it is for you to get money...

Fantastic video overall, honestly. But I have to point out the BOTW comparison in the open world discussion: Korok seeds were NOT a good system. While the "puzzles" might seem interesting at first, they are encountered freaking everywhere, become extremely repetitive and exponentially less rewarding. To me its one of the better examples what NOT to do in an open world: copy paste the same types of puzzles around the whole map.

the final is really almost make me cry, your speak and emotion is the same as me, everything....we growth...we move on from it and all just memories now, we all change i play ToS back from it beta and i even buy early access too but then i know some thing really wrong about it after reach first thousand hr, i keep trying till second thousand hrs and it...just like i though, it really really wrong and fcked up as someone who spend most of my young time in MMO the final really reminds me of so many emotions and past memories i not play that many MMO but when i play i spend alot of time in it, like elsword i spend like my whole youth in it ( 8 years ), when you say it old and we change really almost cry lmao....i thanks you man, for the video and everything

And they keep throwing new classes, a class combined feature, yet the game still feels grindy af, even if you spend moneyto advance faster. P.S. As of today, player count: Korean Server: 74 Japan Server: 138 English Server: 213 Total Steam players: 425 across all servers, and keep in mind, that most of those, are AFK vendors. How is this game even still up on Steam?

Bro you wanna make your title less aggressive? Jesus christ. Not worth the time if it's titled like that.

This game is soo bad even a well written video essay about it only have 7k view in 10 monts. Its sad that its only have that much view and i know u put a lot of effort into making this video

Swordman sux coz u never reach the endgame or going for pvp content, well... not that i can blame u since building a swordman for endgame takes tons of material compare to another classes and just not really worth it coz whales and hardcore guilds rigged pvp anyway xD sometime just chillin with friends in city and shit talk is fun tho, just log in, check market, talking about bosses and life really give out the vibe of MMORPG. Man i love to try the game again when i have time :3

MMO nowadays class/gear system are too generics, simplified & no soul, p2w the only key be strong. This is why TOS/RO was special, in first year was fun, because class mix & match made every dungeon run special. However, no guild activity & massive quests caused players pretty solo story quests, eventually dried out. until end game hit the class imba issue & boring infinity grind. The best part was sub classes mix & match, earlier was balance, until rank5/rank6 the upper class dps outperform lower class, but lower class buff still relevant, hence all become uti/support>dps.

in my case the turn off was the absurd amount of bots and necromancers taking all grinding spots in demon prison and some other important areas and IMC getting massive amount of feedback and still doing anything.

I really treasure the memories of the first 6 months of the game. People were grinding, exploring, and building communities. The weird levelling walls were annoying but as time went on, people found an efficient way to overcome it. I am happy to have pulled out before the Class Circles became meaningless.

Decent video. Sometimes you go a bit too off topic or spend too much time talking about other games imo. Its kinda sad how many similarities ToS shares with other korean MMORPG nowadays. "Good art, music, and combat weighed down by overly streamlined leveling, linear map progression, boring quests, and no sense of exploration/adventure" can describe the current state of every anime kMMO that has been around since RO's time, like Maplestory, LaTale, DFO. Everything now has to be a theme park experience where the only thing that matters is reaching lvl cap to do dailies and raids. Its like developers nowadays forgot all the reasons why people used to play MMOs in the first place. ToS is just especially disappointing since it does so many things wrong that RO had already been doing right over a decade ago.

I wanna play this game so bad, but I know there's no reason to even bother trying lol.

What we love is the good old days back then. Not the game actually. U see Ragnarok is still there, but even u install and play it, u dun have the feeling like back then b4. This is wat we call grow up.

dang bro, a full length movie with only 5.8k views??? criminal. I have never played this game but I love learning about things that are fully not relevant to me, and this was a really well put together autopsy on a game I probably would not have played anyway. Great work.

me still on tos in 2024: F2P BTW

I had never played an rpg before this game only continued to keep playing because it looks straight out of an anime the beutiful visuals are the only thing that bring me back

Nice video! I was thinking about giving TOS a chance, but your points made really clear to me that is no point in it. The grinding part was specially a big no no for me. I think your video was clear, had good audio, editing and the images complements the comments really well. My only note is that it could be a little shorter. Anyways, I subbed and hope to see more videos from you :)

still liked and subbed btw, you clearly put passion into this vid and the criticism are definitely valid, although you can literally levy them against the majority of mmorpgs or like, video games in general lol. If they watched your vid and addressed your criticism, the game would be a masterpiece, but that can also be said, again, about so many dope games with awesome devs but awful greedy publishers/:

tos goes hard, arts so damn good, combats intuitive, heaps of content, unique class system with crazy build variety ect ect. Dev greed aside, the game is super solid and insanely well made dude. edit: to my point, play the game with a xbox or ps controller and you'll see how much thought really went into player core experience. The way they designed the layout puts to shame most, like fr most if not all (path of exile ties) pc console control schemes, they put heart and genius thought into tht sht.

Dude this was the kind of thing I think about TOS all the time!!! Just like many friends of mine think of TOS, still!!!! If a new successor to this game or a new server comes I will play again. I also cried thinking of how fun I had with TOS specially because I had friends with me with RO and and TOS, and also had fun when I didn't have them with me

I miss being able to play RO and TOS,there is a lot of room for new servers to spin up, private TOS servers would be perfect!!!! Really a fresh start for a TOS server is private servers, RO is still kind of alive because of private servers The thing is, even with all the problems we had, if there is a new server people will come and it will have lots of people!!

I still remember the feeling of playing that game, i wanted to love it so bad, even though it was already dead for two years. I loved its concept and it still gives me the feels when I think about it. However, it's painful to see how messy it has become. What bothered me the most was the lack of depth in the world and the low level of interactivity.

Lithuanian mythology is so interesting. I was excited to explore a world seeped in it, but Tree of Savior is not it. A shame really. Thanks for the video!

YEs, every mob you fight thesame way.. Theres an optimal way to use your character and you dont have to do anything outside of that so it doesnt matter if the mob shoots or stabs, has aoe or not. You move, leave flame pillar and fire back running in a circle grinding the whole pack down... And you do thesame with bosses...

chase the goddess macgufin is very bad for a story...

The final nail in the coffin was all the out of universe cash shop garbage like power ranger costumes...

Giveaway of boosts, gear and currency was the core issue, Nothing says "were desperate, the game is dying" like giving away progression. It devalues the whole process of progression and inventivizes people to not play and just wait for boost.

The headstart isnt a problem that killed the game. it was a progression tunel in ro i can start in 4 places and from there i can travel in different directions and explore. Leveling and journey feels different. In tos you start in two places and progress always in the same direction untill you reach klaipeda and then basically everyone is in one tunell.. Theres no free form exploration.

its 2024, despite the gravity attack on private servers Im still playing rangarok online and out of their jurisdiction this time...

I started played again a couple weeks ago. New event gave me a max character with end game gear and a bunch of bonuses. 3months early start? Lol...

7 yrs huh.. thank you ❤

I miss the old day when they don't give you every class at the start and hidden class is actually hidden. I remember when i wanted to unlock the miko class, it took me a day to do it. Sure it's cancer but it's a memory i still remember fondly after i quit the game a long time ago.

I really tried to give this game a chance early on. I remember also being hyped before release. At one point, I even started reverse engineering the game with the goal of making a compatible server emulator for it. Even though I was making great progress, I realized it was so fruitless - every patch was just worse than the previous, and it really made me lose all my motivation. I then thought that even if myself or someone else succeeds in this, the amount of changes that would have to be made to make the game redeemable are overwhelming. It would be better off to just make a new game from scratch. There is some part of me deep down that doesn't want to give up on it though. I really want the game to succeed.

Honestly, ur video is great and I agree with ur sentiment of the game. I also always checked the subreddit or steam news to check if they would re-release the game or sms despite all those years. I also believe that this game is the "easiest" to improve than any other MMO in market while having a huge potential, or at least they could make a sequel. IMO, It really can be amazing, but the devs would need to take some risks. Anyway, what project are you working on? A Ragnarok mmo or something related to that?

Now I wanna play RO, thx for your work also was playing TOS for the last 2 Weeks, still enjoy it but you got a lot of good point, was a pleasure to listing to your thoughts ^^

Probably you had more passion than the devs themself. You nailed what the game did wrong which probably the devs themself never come to understand of I know it's sad when the things you are rooting for never become the hope people wanted it to be. Anyway, Now time to become a Helldiver (I recommend the game) hope it can give you a new fun.

1:13:22 Costumes are class locked because it is more affordable production and development-wise.

Thanks for this video brother, I agree with you on so many points with this video.. But i still decide to be in love and continue to play the game despite it's obvious shortcomings <3

The thing that killed the game fo me was: Having an active Pre-Order for the game, and still have Nexon's "You don't have the right payment method so we won't allow you to play." for a FREE game.

make more videos man u are good

I was looking into starting Tree of Savior, I hadn't even heard of it until Josh Strife Hayes did a review of it. I had been swept up in Wow for so many years I skipped so many good MMOs, I love your passion for the game. I think I will pick it up once I finish the main storyline of my current MMO I'm playing through.

I love how everyone knew how great this game potential was, And disappointed how it turn to be. After finished the video, This video not only explain how Tree of Savior failed, But also explain how the game enjoyable. Most gamers nowadays thinking to be better than others are enjoyable, either in Skills or Skins, But we forgot it is about experience. GRINDING could be fun, Exploring could be fun, Losing also could be fun, The most important is to make an enjoyable game. If things are enjoyable people would spend time on it. Like this video I watch in through without any pause because it is enjoyable to do so.

I love how everyone knew how great this game potential was, And disappoint how it turn to be.

make a ToS 2 will be a redemption, the game engine is too old and too much limitation, it was RO strategy grid style with a bit more actions, i hope it will be more smoother action based with better game engine i played ToS since launch 2013, the job mix & match mechanism and some skills combo was really fun, teaming with different build and be creative to clear different contents was one of best experience earlier. Until later rank 7 damage inflation, low rank skill dmg% fall into trap of unscalable and high rank job dictated the end game, making the game narrow, PvP/GvG released too late as well kill the game. Later i quitted when there was a major change of management and big revamp, character no longer chibi. Later, also too much quests to come back

Tree of Savior as a game is fun. Very fun. What ruins it is IMC and Papaya's greed

I agree with a lot of points. This game had so much potential. I am still a big fan of their unique art style, I just love it! Up until now, I just want them to maybe start this game again with best foot forward -- I will play this game again.

Tree of Savior was a great game. What happened was, the Ragnarok Online community simply grew up and realized life is OP and went off to do other things. Me for example played ToS on launch, got super far ahead, took a break, and came back to find the whole system changed. didnt bother with game afterwards.

First rant seemed very tone deaf

The greatest potential, the worst optimization.

The worst and saddest part about TOS was its lost potential. So much is there, yet more is missing.