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Review wasn’t worth the time to watch. Won’t happen again! Hack!

This boat is a blood sucking never ending money pit.

Good advice for many multiple test questions. (Use the answers to help your reasoning)

So in 2024 you are totally off re the budget - you can have a Saona 47 at about the same price range as a Nautitech Open 46.

damn dude... where i live, a boat with all these issues and modifications is worth like $200k tops...

How what? Is that why the lower trough is 282 thousand dollars? And of course the surveyor also got some... Well, it's not such a good ship. The realistic price of this would have been around 200,000 dollars. It's funny that you praise the waterproofness of the side hatch and the wooden edge mounted on the edge of the material is all discolored from mold. Anyway, at least the sellers are happy. You, on the other hand, will have so many problems that it will never end. Well, here is a vivid example of why the price of catamarans is unrealistically high. Well, because the possibility of possession without any criticism makes you orgasm. Good luck!

Nice video and comments. Longtime monohull owner here, but recently converted to a Cat. Two years back, we located and purchased a 2012 FP Lipari 41 owners version 3/2 layout. Never chartered. It had been sailed from the Med to Martinique where we found it thru the brokers ad asking $310K. While there was some wear and tear it was mainly to the canvas, running rigging and gel shine due to the tropic sun. However all systems and interior were in good shape due to moderate use. The Volvo Penta saildrive engines had 1500 hrs. After a survey and demo sail a price of $270k was accepted. While we have done several updates and upgrades since the purchase, main expenses were addition of A/C and a genset ( about $40K) but we have brand new reliable systems and wife is happy! We have found dockage and insurance to be more costly than my earlier monohulls so take those two things into consideration when purchasing. I think there are cost advantages to consider when buying out of country depending on what you want and your sailing experience. Happy cruising!

Your corian counters are easily fixed they just need diamond polishing and good composite kitchen top dealer should have or know one.

Those older cats have such low bridge deck clearance.

at least the masses will know the elites from the wealth they flaunt when the day comes

Thank you for this real nuts and bolts of boat buying. I wish more people were talking about HOW to do this.

Our family motto is “The first offer should insult them.” Give them a offer so far below asking price that you are 99% sure they will reject it but there is a possibility they might accept and if they counter it is going to be much lower than if you gave them a offer barely below their asking price. Yes this might piss them off so much they give you the finger but that is very rare.

Sold your house? My thought is to buy the boat with a home equity loan and rent the house out to cover the note. I should be cash flow positive. What am I missing?

Did you ever make a review of sunsail?

According to IRC section 163(h) (4), a boat will be considered a qualified residence if it is one of the two residences chosen by the taxpayer for purposes of deductibility in the tax year. A qualified residence must have basic living accommodations including sleeping space (berth), a toilet (head), and cooking facilities (galley). If the boat is also chartered, the taxpayer will have to use the boat for personal purposes for either more than 14 days or 10% of the number of days during the year the boat was actually rented, to qualify for the interest deduction in accordance with IRC section 280A(d)(1).

Yes , a lot of money if a ship has these issues , everything can be solved and a lot of these issues are due to failed maintenance, design , general quality. But to repair it takes time and again money. In a boat market ,as it is now, with falling prices a difficult decision .

$282 US is still a high price for a 2005 year model cat.

Thank you for the honest review. Would like to know about insurance costs, coverages and company that insured the boat.

Talk about biased. The 450 is the only one with the hull issue and leopard has even more issues. In fact, they all have their histories. And comparing a plastic/glass interior to wood of any kind and expecting the wood to wear better than the glass, is just ridiculous. Wood requires more care, no doubt. Then again, an all plastic/glass interior feels like a hospital or prison cell.

I'd be careful with adjusting bearing in bulk. You took +3 for all values, shouldn't each be corrected individually? A Mnemonic I use is "Empty Sea, Add Water" to remember: "Map to Compass, add West", "eM T C, A W"

Did your inspector and sea trial catch any of these issues/modifications?

I have been sailing a 2001 Voyage 380 in the Eastern Caribbean for the last 17 years where there are lots of catamarans. It seems to me that after the 2008 financial crisis, the quality of the big 3 production cats took a big hit. Even more so is the maintenance at the charter companies. I am based in St. Lucia and am appalled at the condition of boats coming out of charter. Most of the work including fiberglass is done at the dock. Buyer beware and have a good surveyor.

I don’t understand, you offered 290k and they accepted, then you went back with an even lower offer?

Don't worry, carry a pistol!

I have 120k for a Cat and get $1500 a month residual income. Do you think I can afford it? Should I look at something around 80k or spend the whole 120k? I lived on a mono and retired Coast Guard so I can do fiberglass, electrical, and mechanical. I am looking at everything under 40' like a PDQ, Dean, Gemini, Fountaine, Admiral, Edel.. Every one that standing rigging and running rigging has been done are around $150k. I want to go around Asia and surf so shallow draft is key for me. Let me what route should I take. Mahalo,

Breaking free, I have not heard so much excretement and lagoon bagging for so long. So you had a "FEELING" that Lagoon was not the boat for you. Wow such factual detail. The boat you were on was a charter boat, you said yourself many of the issues were ones of maintenance, Fory crying out loud, many many charter companies are renowned for failure to maintain their fleet. In regard to water ingress, you are only guessing how this may have occurred. Once again they are a charter boat, no one, particularly the charterer's care if water gets in the boat - why - because its not theirs. Agree that I would not have a 4 head boat,it is not needed but they can be converted to storage and laundries. Finally if you are going to make these types of videos here's something you may want to consider, facts. I have owned two Lagoons, both were not perfect but I would go back to one in a heartbeat and have sailed many of thousands of miles in them in all conditions.

I love my people, but I wouldn't go there and I grew up in San Juan. But if you decide to go, Remember... play stupid games you'll get stupid prizes. If cops don't go there, and locals don't go there... why would you? There are a million beautiful things to explore in PR. I would suggest you go to those instead.

I keep a slip at blackhawk boatyard in bayfield for my 26ft sailboat. Best sailing grounds in the country and love hiking the islands

Great video!

Thanks for the boat breakdown!

Another good video

Thanks for the boat breakdown!

Good underwater video!

I love the done work!

Super cool!

Great video!

Rob does a great job breaking down this super tricky part of boating. I had the pleasure of meeting this couple and they are extremely nice and helpful. They went out of their way to help me out and I really appreciate their kindness. Please follow these guys to help support them. They are a small channel that needs your love. Thanks again Rob and Emily for your kindness!

If you decide you want more toilets, given the aluminum tanks, the composting style toilet seems the logical way to go. Nice to have a dedicated shower space.

Thank you for sharing. We are about 9 months away from our purchace. 10% seems far for an offer.

Great video, if I may, I would not replace the engines, I myself would rather go electric, it's a high cost once off and in the long run it pays for it self. But you have a lot of problems, noting that you cant handle, May you have some great sailing.

What a reality check...adjusted expectations for sure

Appricate the info and vid!

Glad to see that you have broken free of the land life! Keep on sailing!

Great video!

If you don't have the money to pay cash you can't afford it most people that think there going to sail the rest of there life get there ass handed to them

🙏 'Promosm'

I can't afford a catamaran, going the sailboat route. Don't want to be in debt. Maybe someday, but not going to wait for that day.

glad u enjoyed the community i am there all the time

Any regrets on selling the house? I was thinking more turn it into an airbnb. that way I have a place to stay buy "renting" my own house when there is a break. Also, maybe after a year sometime i don't like it as much as i thought and go back to day sailing without getting priced out of the housing market.

OMG I just watches the Truman Show and those clouds on the water look "fake" haha