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I know want to do with the old town museum building. Make it a dark ride theme to similar to Boo Blaster on Boo Hill.

They're not going to remove a key element of a badass ride.

They were going to do something to Dragster before the accident. It wasn’t sustainable.

Yeah, Cedar Point’s problem is not having enough room, it’s staffing issues. It’s the reason why sheet of point likes to stick with a certain number of rides and attractions. Sure, snake River falls, and sirens curse are in two different areas, but that just means that the snake crew is going to be moved over to sirens crew and once snake has its replacement ride they’re going to take out another ride. It’s been that way for decades with the exception of planet Snoopy. There’s a South Park episode that handles the situation really well. You can’t keep putting in new attractions without taking something out because half the park won’t be running if they didn’t.

It's a dumb gimmick but at least it will draw some people from other lines.

Even if Cedar Point needed to apologize for TT2 it’d still probably be cheaper to give everyone in the city of Sandusky a heavy discounted season pass for 2025, or give them it for free instead of putting a roller coaster that would be there for a very long time and needing maintenance. This like getting a new dog or child as an apology.

This is the coaster that was going to energylandia and then to Mexico ....SMH NEXT.....

Pointless clickbait.

2 words millennium island

Cedar point could fit 10 more coasters in the park without expansion. More than one coaster can take up the same land. We live in a 3d world and coasters can travel over midways and paths. The marina won’t ever go away. Don’t be stupid.

Everything you mentioned is spending great sums of money - just to get people in the park? Ridiculous. This isn’t Disney World

4:50 I always have completely disagreed with that thought. TTD still would have been slated in the long-term plan to be modified into ‘24 TT2 whether there was a ‘21 accident or not. The accident shut it down earlier imho (I was there the day it happened and walked behind the paramedics truck as it pulled in thru the maintenance gate). I don't have the ability to talk in front of a camera like yourself otherwise I'd do a video elaborating on the topic. (The best I could do is type subtitles like I have in some videos. Voice overs are hard to do and well my old Turtle Beach headset broke lol) So I'll be brief, the bottom line Cedar Point always has had planning and budgeting. If anyone follows what they've done including Live E! budgets in recent years, then it fits in place. And they had success repurposing Mean Streak into Steel Vengeance. TTD was getting old. I rode both. I liked TTD better. TT2 was very rough in the straightaways especially the return track. As far as Siren's Curse. I believe a new '25 coaster was slated for that area that's been empty for quite a while being used for Monster Trucks, Food Trucks and temporary rental bleachers for the night show. The main stage is being removed for a wider midway. The construction fence they just put up ironically creates a bottle neck. They had a choice of coasters. Went with one that was unique enough that's not at many other parks. They probably would have Vekoma build one. But they already had one "in stock". Probably costs less. If you don't mind non-themed paint lol

I don't think there's no problem with entry

parking garages are not cheap and can bite heavily into future investment. Just to renovate the bathrooms it can cost a couple million. Now a three story parking would cost almost 100 to 200 million dollars. thats like 5 years of coasters and rides for investment.

5:30 I once asked RMC in an online Q&A "how long is it between the initial agreement with the park to build a new coaster to official announcement of said coaster to the public?". They gave a range of 8 months to 2 years. While Vekoma and RMC are different coaster manufacturers, the time between Vekoma's initial agreement with Cedar Point to build Siren's Curse to the coaster's public announcement could still be less than 2 years.

nah sorry man, your theory is completely false. nothing suggests there was ANY planning for this addition. I mean, just take a look at the original teaser for it, that would be the laziest and lamest direction if this was a thought-out addition. plus there is no way Cedar Point could have a coaster under wraps/hidden from the public for all these years, someone would've leaked the permits, and even park employees are dumbfounded by this sudden addition. 100% an apology for TT2 and to make people happy also, Six Flags Mexico annouced a new coaster but the city didnt allow it to be built due to tree removal, so they needed a park to send it to last minute (Cedar Point)

Lose the crap music bro

Agree on all points. I also find that a lot of enthusiasts become anti enthusiasts. I welcome the new coaster, offering a new experience not only for the park, for me personally, along with almost everyone else. For me, I think it will be fun and it's a great addition to a great coaster lineup! Well done CP!!!

They don't have a space problem... That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

One move that i thing would be HUGE for park travel and expansion would be to move all kid themed zones to the center island and build more access points to the island. Putting bridges where camp snoopy is, one that goes under top thrill's launch, and one near the millennium force station would make the quickest way across the park almost always the island actually solving the problem of it being a low traffic area. On the topic of where the kid areas used to be, kiddie kingdom has a roughly 100'x200' footprint plenty big enough for a vekoma family invert perfect for their new boardwalk theme that i think would fi the area very well. Planet Snoopy just next door to kiddie kingdom has a footprint of roughly 200'x200' (or 200' by 300' if you move the two gift shops). A spot like this would be great for a compact higher thrill ride like a premier rides spaghetti bowl or something similar to the original sky rocket. The last area, Camp Snoopy, has a 200'x500' area just big enough for a decent sized coaster with a unique model type like a flying coaster or to build something like a massive record breaking Gerstlauer. If they really need to squeeze out 10 or so years to plan a monorail/parking lot move or marina relocation, I think this is the way to buy some time.

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Your whole theory immediately falls apart when you find out that Cedar Point hasn't started construction (when historically Cedar Fair starts construction in early summer), they have 0 permits, and they didn't announce it until late September. I don't see how you would see all 3 of those and not think it's a late addition. Not to mention, Six Flags Mexico publicly confirmed they intended on building a coaster but they weren't able to get it approved by the city. It wasn't a case of them just storing it for Cedar Point. Also why would they store it in Mexico just to prevent it from leaking? That extra shipping would cost a ton of money and really just make no sense.

People may not realize that a park has multiple projects going on simultaneously with different years as completion dates. When the world ends for 18 months and you need to pivot, you don't mess up all your projects because there are contracts and licenses and permits and you need to stay on schedule. You only disrupt the least amount of all that stuff as necessary. Project A pauses and gets postponed. Project B keeps going and the boardwalk wild mouse opens per plan. And so on. I'm curious if SF Mexico received any Vekoma supplies for any of their other rides about that time. Ship it all to one place to get it in company hands and them move it to the build site later when it is time. Where at Cedar Point would you storage a coaster for several months if you weren't ready to start construction yet????

Only 750 subs???? I though you had 750k lol that's how good your video quality is

It is infact the one sitting in Mexico. 13 feet isn't much to change heck you can put the station higher. This ride was meant for Mexico but the locals fought it and a questionnaire was sent out kind of like a town hall meeting. Locals shot it down because of to many trees being removed. But yes this one was energylandias.

My 1st visit as a kid was 1964. Needless to say CP looked nothing like it does today. For example there was no front gate, heck no fences. The picnic pavilion you referenced was not a pavilion but a grove of trees with scattered picnic tables . I remember my dad would drive the family car through the Blue Streak into that picnic grove where he parked and we set up our picnic items at a table right next to the Blue Streak. The monorail that another commentator mentioned would travel through that picnic grove.

Great video and finally a different view point other than they typical conspiracy videos. Only thing I don't necessarily agree with is shipping the track to SFM. That's quite the process dealing with shipping with three different countries, from the Netherlands, to Mexico to the US. I think this ride was for Mexico and Cedar Point had a site already prepped for something eventually and it was just an easy fit. I don't think TT2 has anything to do with this new ride being installed.

The more I listen to you and watch your channel, the more I appreciate, respect and enjoy you! Definitely don't agree with everything but what would be beneficial about that in regards a topic such as roller coasters😂💯 Thank you for being you, keep it up

The fact is. I work here. and yes cedar point yes faced major lose due to cov 19. But, also many people lose faith, trust in cedar point after the top thrill a accident. Which also made people lose faith or trust in the park or their safety of the rides. Which now is causing attendance to drop. But, cedar point goal is to get back on top with being the top park of the rollercoaster capital of the world.

i 100% believe this was planned. They tore down the old cedar dorms a couple seasons ago. Getting a project like trhis does not come overnight i agree!!.

I think your hypothesis checks out. Covid messed up everything (whammy) then the park reopened and then the accident happened (double whammy) so everything you said is highly plausible!

I don't know.....seems kind of crazy that the company worth $8 billion is trying to appologize to anyone. They demolished the old dorm and cleared that land years ago. It clearly was a planned location for a roller coaster.

I mean we will never know, but projects take time to plan. If the $$$ was there it could have gone either way. Great video!

Enthusiasts are coping about this addition because they didn't predict it. They missed it. Which is why they're making up speculation like "it was meant for Six Flags Mexico!!!1!!1!!!!" or "it was a last-minute addition to make up for Top Thrill 2!!!1!!1!!". They're making these things up because they want to feel validated that know the ride's history/planning process, since they missed it during the ACTUAL planning process. They want to feel smart and "in the know." They want to feel like they know more than the general public. But they didn't in this case, and I find that absolutely hilarious. Enthusiasts had the wool pulled over their eyes by the park, just like the rest of the general public. They were surprised like everyone else, and they didn't like that because they want to feel smarter than everyone else. Really goes to show that being an "enthusiast" holds no significance in the real world. These rides take years to plan for and develop. Cedar Point did not "steal" anything from anyone, this ride was designed for Cedar Point. Do I think perhaps the ride was pushed to 2025 to make up for TT2's failure? Maybe. It could've been a 2026 addition, who knows. But it was always meant for Cedar Point. It has been in the works for years.

Thanks for featuring my comment for your video! I love your channel and content. If you are right and this is a coaster that was planned over the last 2 or 3 years, why isn’t it opening on opening day 2025? And why is the color scheme completely wrong? And why was it announced so late in season? And why design it in a way that they need to move a road? And why open it during the same season when tt2 will actually open and overshadow it (by a lot). You are suggesting that six flags hid the coaster in Mexico, just to trick coaster enthusiasts? How much does that trick cost to needlessly move coaster parts to different countries just to trick online enthusiasts? That seems like a ridiculous waste of money. I agree I can’t explain the 10 feet height difference, my best guess is that the coaster still worked fine with a little more speed and height. So the height was raised 10 feet by cedar point request which ended up making the top speed higher than originally specified for the energylandia. By far the simplest explanation. Great video as always, love hearing your perspective.

Stop making sense

I love CP as a park, and dont really care what reason they have to be adding something new. Theyve made some serious mistakes with manufacturers, but they always end up thrilling me somehow. Just happy to see even more thrills coming, for whatever reasons. Btw, I never gave a damn about Top Thrill, even before it's disasterous rebuild. So even if it never works, its no loss for me. There is SO much more to do there.

1. Red track. It wasn't supposed to go to CP. 2. Generic model. It wasn't designed for that piece of land. 3. Marketing. There was zero indication of a new ride coming to that piece of land. And the marketing was thrown together with little thought. 4. Top Thrill. This was an unplanned addition. Top Thrill was their plan, that failed. This is a way to mitigate the damage caused by the failure of Top Thrill. 5. Opening Date. This ride is slated for a summer opening. There's zero site prep at the time of announcement, and a late opening date. Nothing at all gives credence to this being the plan or expectation for that piece of land at this time. Nothing.

I don’t think you are 100% accurate, but I think this is probably the most reasonable assumption of what happened, and the most believable theory I’ve heard yet!

I do believe this may be the same coaster that energy was supposed to get. The only real evidence it isn’t is the height difference. However, it is likely that energy was saying max height of the lift was 14x ft. tall. Once the coaster goes into the vertical position, the back car of the coaster train is roughly 10-12 feet higher than the highest piece of the lift hill. CP is likely claiming the coasters max height at the vertical position as the height

They have the same layout

I think you are right.

I thought this was the official cedar point channel lol

I think this should be a good opportunity for the park to re-imagine the locker situation for TT2.

Some of the timeline points with Six Flags Mexico are genuinely fascinating. The SF / CF merger was announced on Nov 2 and closed July 1st. News that Energylandia canceled their Tilt coaster surfaced late in November, and photos of track pieces at Six Flags Mexico were posted in early July. Apparently, residents living near the park were taken aback by the rumors of a large coaster installation as no permits had been filed. It's not clear whether SFM had filed anything even after stating they'd build in an area that didn't require tree removal. So that part is at least consistent with SFM receiving coaster track that they weren't really intending to build. If Cedar Point decided to pick Energylandia's Tilt as a relatively cheap "secondhand" choice for the dorm site, they'd have needed to do site surveys late in the fall or early in the spring. Conveniently, this would have been overlooked by enthusiasts zeroing in on TT2 updates. The problem is that sending the track to Six Flags Mexico solely to throw enthusiasts off the trail seems... excessive. While CF and SF expected the merger to be cleared by Q2, there was the possibility it might not be approved until well into Q3. CF could have stored the track at, say, Kings Dominion instead. They'd have (some) enthusiasts second-guess the launched B&M leaked plans, and when Rapterra construction began, we'd assume it was going to KI or Carowinds instead. Still plenty of room to be very surprised it's going to CP, while keeping the track held on legacy CF property.

Something to note that you missed was that SFM DID confirm that they would be getting a new roller coaster for 2025, even going as far to provide an announcement date for the new attraction. However, the park would later take down that post, the ride would never be announced, and a few weeks after the SFM attraction was supposed to be announced CP announced their new attraction. It seems kind of counter intuitive for a park to ship parts for a coaster to a park in a completely different country just to throw people off of the scent. Mind you, coaster enthusiasts only make up a small percentage of the parks attendees, and so PR wise, it wouldn't really accomplish much as most of the GP wouldn't care enough to warrant shipping a ride to a whole other country. Also, adding an attraction super last minute isn't anything new. SFGAdv literally did that last year with Flash with just a few months of planning, so it's totally possible for CP to have done the same thing this years. It's likely that since SFM was having issues getting the coaster approved by the city (which is factual, they addressed it on their social media), CF executives likely decided to send it to another park instead and settled on CP.

Yes. We enthusiasts need to remember that TT2 is a business decision. New trains, LSMs, and a spike are **cheaper** than removing and replacing the entire coaster with, say, a massive Mack XSC. Despite all the re-engineering Zamperla's Lightning trains needed, this is still more cost-effective than scrapping Dragster entirely. Cedar Point would have decided to add a Tilt no matter how TT2 performed. Announcing it late just makes it look like a consolation prize for passholders.

Or the coaster is built 12 feet off the ground at its lowest point to make it 160 ft high. 🤷

So I think Brandon made one of his videos and many other channels just ran with it. I like your take on this good as it is unique. Sadly, this youtuber is know to not have the best Intel and run with it, allegedly of course.

I refuse to go back to CP over wicked twister :-(