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Stockfisher
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Приєднався 10 кві 2024
Welcome to my UA-cam channel dedicated to chess engines, especially Stockfish. Join me as I showcase thrilling matchups between various engines. You'll see how these engines fare against each other and even challenge themselves at varying base depths... That's all for now!
Stockfish 17 DEPTH 60 VS Stockfish 17 DEPTH 20 (No Forced Opening)
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The browser's engine analyses is set at a depth of 20.
Special thanks to @wintrcat for providing the platform used for analyzing chess games featured in this video. To see the creation process of his masterpiece (his website), watch this video.
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Here is what I was able to recover from the SF calculations, some moves weren't saved for some reason at the end, that's why it didn't go up to 108 moves in total:
www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/90shvo3n4bjkm36194kjc/AMePNS_xPdGFPDaRU3xOTVY?rlkey=qr607gxf0v5k09mmlzz46o3xi&st=ncg53hjt&dl=0
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Music:
ua-cam.com/video/lPVBrRd9wCo/v-deo.html
The browser's engine analyses is set at a depth of 20.
Special thanks to @wintrcat for providing the platform used for analyzing chess games featured in this video. To see the creation process of his masterpiece (his website), watch this video.
ua-cam.com/video/N6dIEzA--7Y/v-deo.html
Here is what I was able to recover from the SF calculations, some moves weren't saved for some reason at the end, that's why it didn't go up to 108 moves in total:
www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/90shvo3n4bjkm36194kjc/AMePNS_xPdGFPDaRU3xOTVY?rlkey=qr607gxf0v5k09mmlzz46o3xi&st=ncg53hjt&dl=0
chess game chess player FIDE pawn endgames en passant botez gambit chess in public chess gambit chess opening chess tactics checkmate chess.com magnus carlsen chess lesson chess master fide master grandmaster international master
#chess #stockfish #chesscom #magnuscarlsen #youtube #hikaru #chessengine #computerchess #hikaru #fide #chessexplained #chessengines #chessgames #stockfisher
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Good work man, looking forward to another video from you!
If there is no knight/rook/queen/bishop sacrifice, it can't be a tal game 😢😢 the computer should have sacrificed something
Wait i don't see any book opening
It would be nice to see stockfish 17 depth 60 vs itself in a few openings such as the catalan which is teeming with many different possible ways to play forward, the ruy lopez with a6 to avoid berlin and see how stockfish handles one of the most played lines in chess and finally i think it would also be very instructive if u could create a video of the advanced caro kann too. Although stockfish deems it an inaccuracy it would be really interesting how stockfish handles one of the most annoying setups where essentially piece mobility is infinitely restricted due to the pawn structure
Althought all games are likely to end up as draws it would be really interesting to see how stockfish simplifies it down to a drawn endgame. In other words the focus is the moves rather than the result
Kind of looks like AlphaZero vs Stockfish, cool.
Where is the information that the stockfish rating is 4075?
The 4075 rating shown in the video is just a placeholder. Determining Stockfish's exact elo is difficult because the elo system relies on comparisons within a pool of opponents, and Stockfish is at the very top, its expected elo is around 3623 under standard conditions. However, with the white engine at depth 60, it’s safe to say its effective strength in that setup likely exceeded 3623, how much exactly? Can't really tell
Can I ask how did you play let them play, is there a time control, or is it unlimited time on each side?
I limited the depth of each side, there isn't a time limit specifically, but they don't continue thinking forever, longest calculation time in this video was like 2-3 hours for 1 move
If you made them play a kings gambit then id expect depth 60 to win. Possibly even a Sicilian could decide it for depth 60.
using the analysis is kinda useless cause they're both stronger than it
It can be useful for the people that are relatively new to Chess and even advanced players, the analyzing engine is still way ahead of the strongest Chess players we have today, but it also makes the games more interesting and less bland to watch imo
No human will ever comprehend this game.
Agreed. I am 1600 and I have no idea what even occured in this game.
It's a Nimzo-Indian. I'm 2100 on LiChess and understood it perfectly.
Why does this engine prefer d4 over e4 on move 1. I thought engines play Berlins only
Because stockfish 17 at depth gave a slight advantage to d4 over e4.. Here is an example analysis of the first best move at high depths, shortly after depth 60, stockfish 17 prefers e4 again, slightly below depth 60, it was c4... "60/49+ 33:46.514 10,983,483k 5,420k +0.18 1.c2c4 60/63+ 34:45.202 11,305,848k 5,422k +0.19 1.d2d4 60/63+ 34:59.947 11,387,701k 5,423k +0.23 1.d2d4 60/70- 35:27.328 11,541,101k 5,425k +0.15 1.d2d4 Ng8f6 60/70- 37:42.037 12,288,170k 5,432k +0.12 1.d2d4 Ng8f6 60/70+ 38:22.233 12,506,823k 5,432k +0.16 1.d2d4 60/70 38:47.936 12,641,529k 5,430k +0.14 1.d2d4 Ng8f6 2.Ng1f3 e7e6 3.c2c4 d7d5 4.Nb1c3 Bf8b4 5.Qd1a4+ Nb8c6 6.a2a3 Bb4xc3+ 7.b2xc3 Bc8d7 8.c4xd5 e6xd5 9.Bc1g5 h7h6 10.Bg5h4 Nc6e5 11.Qa4b3 Ne5xf3+ 12.g2xf3 OO 13.Qb3xb7 Rf8e8 14.Bh4g3 Re8e6 15.Bf1g2 Re6c6 16.Qb7b2 Ra8b8 17.Qb2d2 Rc6b6 18.OO Rb6b2 19.Qd2e3 Bd7b5 20.Rf1e1 Qd8d7 21.Qe3e5 Rb8e8 22.Qe5xc7 Qd7xc7 23.Bg3xc7 Re8xe2 24.Re1xe2 Bb5xe2 25.a3a4 Be2c4 26.Bg2h3 61/43- 39:07.436 12,751,242k 5,432k +0.13 1.d2d4 Ng8f6 61/47+ 41:46.664 13,619,363k 5,433k +0.15 1.e2e4 61/47+ 41:58.551 13,673,260k 5,429k +0.18 1.e2e4 61/50 42:40.909 13,893,888k 5,425k +0.19 1.e2e4 e7e5 2.Ng1f3 Nb8c6 3.Bf1c4 Ng8f6 4.d2d3 Bf8c5 5.c2c3 a7a6 6.OO d7d6 7.a2a4 Bc5a7 8.b2b4 Nc6e7 9.Rf1e1 OO 10.Nb1d2 c7c6 11.d3d4 e5xd4 12.c3xd4 d6d5 13.e4e5 d5xc4 14.e5xf6 g7xf6 15.Nd2xc4 Bc8g4 16.Bc1h6 Rf8e8 17.h2h3 Bg4h5 62/31+ 42:56.605 13,980,373k 5,426k +0.19 1.e2e4 62/46+ 44:01.194 14,333,873k 5,427k +0.20 1.e2e4 62/57- 45:46.155 14,935,569k 5,439k +0.16 1.e2e4 e7e5 62/58+ 46:50.193 15,271,111k 5,434k +0.19 1.e2e4 ". At depth 80, it is d4 again: " 79/60 25:32:24.014 497,763,884k 5,414k +0.14 1.d2d4 79/61 26:08:58.815 508,721,538k 5,404k +0.17 1.d2d4 79/61 26:30:16.946 514,458,305k 5,392k +0.16 1.d2d4 Ng8f6 2.c2c4 e7e6 3.Ng1f3 d7d5 4.Nb1c3 Bf8e7 5.g2g3 OO 6.Bf1g2 Nb8d7 7.Qd1d3 b7b6 8.c4xd5 Nf6xd5 9.OO Bc8b7 10.Rf1d1 Nd7f6 11.Nc3xd5 Bb7xd5 12.Nf3e5 Bd5xg2 13.Kg1xg2 c7c5 14.Qd3f3 Ra8c8 15.Ne5c6 Qd8c7 16.Nc6xe7+ Qc7xe7 17.d4xc5 Rc8xc5 18.b2b4 Rc5f5 19.Qf3b3 Rf5d5 20.Bc1b2 Rf8d8 21.Ra1c1 Rd5xd1 22.Rc1xd1 Rd8xd1 23.Qb3xd1 Qe7xb4 24.Qd1d8+ Qb4f8 80/63 27:10:50.259 527,053,766k 5,386k +0.17 1.d2d4"
There isn't much difference between a 40 depth increase lol
People often underestimate how strong Depth 20 is. Depth 60 goes much deeper and looks at way more positions, but the difference can seem small in balanced games because both use the same algorithms and play very cautiously. The extra depth helps find subtle improvements or deeper threats, especially in complex positions, but in a game like this, the incremental advantage gain isn't enough yet to convert to a win..
@@Stockfisher It might be enough if sf17 tries other book openings than this one.
@@scottwarren4998 Yeah, making SF depth 80 vs sf depth 20 rn, with forcing an opening
The real winner is the stockfish analysing the game😂
Gotta love how a weaker version of stockfish is being so judgemental of their moves lol
Wow. I thought depth 20 would result in some mistakes, but I guess even depth 20 for Stockfish 17 is still extremely solid.
Power of the neutral net, even depth 1 is very strong
@@virno69420 i think that depth 1 mean that stockfish can't see M2
@@Miguel23080 depth 1 stockfish plays at around master level lmao
I believe that IRL Tal would still beat shit out of all the top-100 and leave a polite, trolling smile after that. Not only he was the GOAT only compared to Murphy (as a sort of a twisted joke connected to his health), but arguably had the most badass personality out of all of the chessmasters.
Nah this bots tweaking 😂
Very interesting idea, gratz on a great video!
Thanks
@@Stockfisher But Stockfisch 17 always plays knight to F3 on its second move. Why didn't you try that in your first video here. =)
@@scottwarren4998 Stockfish 17 comes up with different moves at different depths, it also depends on the current starting position, because it wouldn't be logical to play the same opening moves for every response of black
@@scottwarren4998 In my description, there's a link to both SF depth 60 and 20's analysis on each move, and their evaluation
@@Stockfisher SF 17 on depth 57 plays knight to f7 if black chose the Alekhine. However, you are saying sf 17 on depth 60 plays pawn to c4 instead?
Common best moves according to. Stockfish at opening
I thought ding bot will also offer for draw
Why stronger white?
To see how the depth increases playing strength
Can you make encounter fine-tuned (with visible config) latest leela (on stunning "depth") and poor-tuned stockfish 10 (yes, 10) on 20 depth?
I certainly could, but what is poor-tuned and fine-tuned settings according to you?
Wow you didn't put the accuracy of this legendary battle
I could have, but channels that provide accuracies after 2 opponents with a rating similar to the analyzing chess engine often give misleading results. What I mean is, accuracy metrics are only meaningful when analyzing games between two opponents weaker than the analyzing engine itself. In this case, Stockfish 17 at depths 20 and 60 are both stronger than Stockfish 16 at the depth used for analysis. This makes the accuracy and comparison of the playing strength inaccurate because the analysis engine doesn’t fully capture the deep nuances that Stockfish 17 does. The accuracies of their play according to the weaker engine was at 96-97% on both sides fyi. It doesn't actually mean anything though, because they both played stronger than the analyzing engine.. Also, the accuracy of the same game analyzed by different chess engines will always give different results... We could only really assign accuracy numbers that have a meaning if we had solved chess entirely, meaning we could actually compare it to the most perfect play
The players are stronger than the engine analysing the game so it's not accurate basically
@@rahulbansal2 Yup
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A perfect game of chess always ends in a draw this was truly perfect
We'll never know whether this was perfect or not
is that wintrcat's free game report tool thingy? It's pretty powerful ngl
Yeah I use that site for free game reports
Which version of stockfish evaluates the game then?
The version that evaluates the game is Stockfish 16 at depth 20. chess.wintrcat.uk/
A much weaker one
Tal would be 2840 elo if he born 1990. So it is accurate that ding lost.
Boombasuprise
lmao
I think I could've won the game If i tried
Possibly
@@Stockfisherprobably
wait I recognize this board & eval. This is the free game review website called game report
I totally believe you
LETS GOOOOO 12 LIKES ON FIRST REPLY MY REPLY WITH 6 LIKES NEXT REPLY WITH 3 IT HALVES EVERY TIME
Good ol QGD. Like the 1930s
what is that?
@@TheBcoolGuy queens gambit declined. the structure where white plans d4 and c4 and black goes d5 and e6. It's also possible for black to go c6 (Slav) or both (semi-slav).
One of the most common openings today as well
It wasn’t even the qgd, it was a ragozin defense
Ladder mate at center of board wow
Why didn't the 60 win
Didn't see mate in 61
diminishing returns beyond depth 20 for most engines.
Both sides are running the same Stockfish 17 engine, meaning they use identical algorithms to evaluate positions and search for moves. While Depth 60 searches deeper and can refine its understanding of future positions better than Depth 20, the difference is often incremental rather than decisive. Depth 20, already seeing 10 full moves ahead, is incredibly strong and capable of finding highly accurate moves. Depth 60, on the other hand, can spot subtler improvements or anticipate deeper counterplay, which is why its evaluation from the opening to the middlegame improved from +0.14 to +0.50. However, this slight advantage was not enough to convert into a win, largely because both engines play extremely cautiously without an opening book, minimizing risks and often steering towards draws. In more imbalanced, complex, or dynamic positions, Depth 60 might have been able to outmaneuver Depth 20.
@@Stockfisher exactly, its quite literally comparing apples to apples, depth 20 is enough to get the gist of what the main line should be without searching all the way through it.
@@michn5711 Pretty much
Xd
I'm going to remake this video but have them play an imbalanced opening for more interesting moves. Here is the PGN: [White "Stockfish 17 Depth 60"] [Black "Stockfish 17 Depth 20"] [BlackElo "4075"] [WhiteElo "4075"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. Qa4+ Nc6 6. e3 O-O 7. Qc2 Qe7 8. cxd5 exd5 9. Bd3 Re8 10. O-O Bg4 11. Nh4 Bd6 12. a3 Nd8 13. f3 Bd7 14. Nb5 g6 15. Nxd6 Qxd6 16. Bd2 a6 17. g3 Bb5 18. Bxb5 axb5 19. Ng2 Nh5 20. Ne1 c6 21. Nd3 f5 22. Bb4 Qf6 23. Rae1 Nf7 24. Bc3 Nd6 25. Rf2 Ng7 26. Qb3 Qd8 27. Rfe2 Ne6 28. Bb4 Nf7 29. h4 Qf6 30. Qd1 Qd8 31. Qc2 Rc8 32. Kg2 Qd7 33. Rc1 b6 34. Bc3 Ng7 35. Nf4 Ne6 36. Nd3 Qe7 37. a4 bxa4 38. Qxa4 Qb7 39. Rce1 Ng7 40. Nf4 Ne6 41. Nd3 Nd6 42. Qd1 Qd7 43. Rf1 Nc4 44. Rfe1 Nd6 45. Qb3 Qb7 46. Ne5 Rcd8 47. Kf2 Nf7 48. Nd3 Rb8 49. Rc1 h6 50. Ree1 Ng7 51. Qc2 Rbd8 52. Qb3 Ra8 53. Bb4 Rab8 54. Bd2 Qd7 55. Qa4 Rbc8 56. Ra1 Nh5 57. Bc3 Qc7 58. Ne5 Nxe5 59. dxe5 Ng7 60. Ra3 Ne6 61. Rea1 h5 62. Qd1 Rb8 63. Qd2 Rb7 64. b4 Qd7 65. Ra8 Kh7 66. Rxe8 Qxe8 67. Ra3 Nc7 68. Ba1 Ne6 69. Qa2 Qe7 70. Bc3 Nc7 71. Ra4 c5 72. bxc5 Qxc5 73. Qb3 Ne6 74. Qb4 Qc8 75. Ra1 Ng7 76. Be1 f4 77. Qxf4 b5 78. Qd4 b4 79. Bxb4 Qh3 80. Ra7 Qh2+ 81. Kf1 Rxa7 82. Qxa7 Qxg3 83. Qf7 Qxh4 84. Bf8 Qh1+ 85. Kf2 Qh2+ 86. Kf1 Qh1+ 87. Ke2 Qh2+ 88. Kd1 Qxe5 89. f4 Qc3 90. Bxg7 Qxg7 91. Qxd5 Qf6 92. Ke2 Kg7 93. Ke1 Kh6 94. Ke2 g5 95. Kf3 Kg6 96. Qd3+ Kg7 97. Qd7+ Kf8 98. Qd5 gxf4 99. Qc5+ Kg7 100. Qc7+ Kg6 101. Qxf4 Kf7 102. Qxf6+ Kxf6 103. Kg3 Kg5 104. Kh3 h4 105. Kh2 Kf6 106. Kh3 Kg5 107. e4 Kf4 108. Kxh4 Kxe4 1/2-1/2
Please recommend a completely free chess database which is better than the lichess database
@Stockfisher
@@masterofskills76 According to Chatgpt: SCID: Open-source, large game database, advanced analysis. ChessDB: Free, open-source, with engine support. OpeningTree: Open-source, useful for studying openings. FEN Viewer (ChessBase): Free access to a large collection of games.
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Tal did a little trolling at the end
Yeah saw that too, absolutely no reason for him to give his rook at 3:30
The Ding bot is very overrated though
if you draw against Vishy he says : " well-played i will remember you forever "
Still real Mikhail tal is better
nice, i like how you used wintrcat's game report website to analyse the game, so that you dont have to pay for freakin' diamond membership
Still Tals bot is a computer, I can't see the art behind it
The bot was trained and made to play like Tal did when he was alive and come up with these tricky tactics and traps, which usually isn't the best move, but shows his creativity and competence at least. That alone is impressive honestly... But I just like that it shows us how good he was in his days, considering he couldn't study Chess like we can now.. For me the 'art' is that we're able to create and train a neural network to play Chess in a similar way the real person would, even after he's gone ig