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Nik Run The Hills
United Kingdom
Приєднався 21 лис 2017
Ultra sitter turn ultra runner. Documenting my transformation from a sedentary lifestyle into an active one. Challenging myself in new ways in the hope it inspires you to do the same.
This Test Made Me Rethink EVERYTHING About My Training!
#thresholdtraining #vo2max #zone2 #hyrox #hybridathlete
In this video, I dive deep into my latest physiological testing, where I explore critical metrics like VO2 Max, Lactate Threshold, and Running Economy. I returned to the lab for round two of testing, and the results were nothing short of surprising!
Join me and George Morris, an exercise physiologist at Saint Mary's University, as we break down the science behind these key performance indicators. We discuss how Zone 2 training, VO2 Max, and Running Economy have played a role in my recent performance gains, and why my VO2 Max actually dropped, yet I’m running faster than ever before!
We also debunk common myths about Zone 2 training, explain the true significance of lactate threshold, and share insights into how you can apply these findings to your own training. Whether you’re a competitive athlete or just looking to improve your fitness, there’s something here for everyone.
👉 What You’ll Learn:
1) The surprising results from my latest VO2 Max and Lactate Threshold tests
2) How my training approach has evolved based on these findings
3) The difference between lactate threshold and lactate turn point
4) Why running economy is crucial for performance improvements
5) The truth about Zone 2 training and common misconceptions
6) Tips on how to adjust your training based on physiological data
Keep an eye out for the full test sequence playback in the bottom right of the screen, and don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe if you found this video helpful.
00:00 - Introduction & Overview
Testing physiological markers: VO2 Max, Lactate Threshold, Running Economy.
Discussing the purpose and significance of the tests.
00:57 - Introducing George Morris
Introduction of George Morris, exercise physiologist at Saint Mary's University.
Brief explanation of the fitness tests and their importance.
02:03 - Lactate Threshold & Running Economy Explained
Explanation of lactate threshold and running economy.
Difference between lactate threshold and lactate turn point.
Importance of these metrics for performance.
05:11 - Analysing Test Results
The shift in the lactate curve and its implications.
Improved performance metrics: lower lactate production at higher speeds.
The importance of heart rate changes relative to running speed.
08:06 - VO2 Max Drop Explained
Discussion on why VO2 Max decreased but performance improved.
The inverse relationship between VO2 Max and running economy.
11:29 - Training Adjustments Based on Test Results
How to adjust training zones and intensities based on new data.
The importance of steady pace training and true Zone 2.
18:11 - Debunking the Fat Adaptation Myth
Discussion on fat versus carbohydrate oxidation.
Why carbohydrates are crucial for high-intensity training.
21:07 - Carbohydrate Periodization for Performance
Strategies for carbohydrate periodization based on training demands.
How to fuel effectively for different types of training sessions.
29:07 - Importance of Continual Adaptation
The need to keep adjusting training to avoid plateaus.
How to balance training intensity with recovery.
33:34 - Final Thoughts & Wrap-Up
The importance of critical thinking and not getting swayed by trends.
Final advice on continually improving performance.
In this video, I dive deep into my latest physiological testing, where I explore critical metrics like VO2 Max, Lactate Threshold, and Running Economy. I returned to the lab for round two of testing, and the results were nothing short of surprising!
Join me and George Morris, an exercise physiologist at Saint Mary's University, as we break down the science behind these key performance indicators. We discuss how Zone 2 training, VO2 Max, and Running Economy have played a role in my recent performance gains, and why my VO2 Max actually dropped, yet I’m running faster than ever before!
We also debunk common myths about Zone 2 training, explain the true significance of lactate threshold, and share insights into how you can apply these findings to your own training. Whether you’re a competitive athlete or just looking to improve your fitness, there’s something here for everyone.
👉 What You’ll Learn:
1) The surprising results from my latest VO2 Max and Lactate Threshold tests
2) How my training approach has evolved based on these findings
3) The difference between lactate threshold and lactate turn point
4) Why running economy is crucial for performance improvements
5) The truth about Zone 2 training and common misconceptions
6) Tips on how to adjust your training based on physiological data
Keep an eye out for the full test sequence playback in the bottom right of the screen, and don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe if you found this video helpful.
00:00 - Introduction & Overview
Testing physiological markers: VO2 Max, Lactate Threshold, Running Economy.
Discussing the purpose and significance of the tests.
00:57 - Introducing George Morris
Introduction of George Morris, exercise physiologist at Saint Mary's University.
Brief explanation of the fitness tests and their importance.
02:03 - Lactate Threshold & Running Economy Explained
Explanation of lactate threshold and running economy.
Difference between lactate threshold and lactate turn point.
Importance of these metrics for performance.
05:11 - Analysing Test Results
The shift in the lactate curve and its implications.
Improved performance metrics: lower lactate production at higher speeds.
The importance of heart rate changes relative to running speed.
08:06 - VO2 Max Drop Explained
Discussion on why VO2 Max decreased but performance improved.
The inverse relationship between VO2 Max and running economy.
11:29 - Training Adjustments Based on Test Results
How to adjust training zones and intensities based on new data.
The importance of steady pace training and true Zone 2.
18:11 - Debunking the Fat Adaptation Myth
Discussion on fat versus carbohydrate oxidation.
Why carbohydrates are crucial for high-intensity training.
21:07 - Carbohydrate Periodization for Performance
Strategies for carbohydrate periodization based on training demands.
How to fuel effectively for different types of training sessions.
29:07 - Importance of Continual Adaptation
The need to keep adjusting training to avoid plateaus.
How to balance training intensity with recovery.
33:34 - Final Thoughts & Wrap-Up
The importance of critical thinking and not getting swayed by trends.
Final advice on continually improving performance.
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You’re not jumping with it
The push up looks ... a little bit strange.
Why do some people jump and some don’t?
“ something happens when you cross the 50 rep mark “ 😂 these UA-camrs make up anything that sounds good for these vids i actively workout , nothing happens at rep 50 bro 🤣🤦🏾♂️
😂 this is my recap of my experience. I strongly believe that with any endeavour the real challenge is to reach halfway after that there's no turning back. But you don't have to listen to me. Try for yourself
That’s great. I’m doing 100 a day now but, 4 sets of 25 in about 25 mins. My buddy does 165 a day. That’s all he does and runs. He’s in amazing shape. Cheers. I’m going to ramp up to his level.
Nice work!
Before / after?
In the video
This is not a complete burpee! What happened to the jumping jack after? Stop doing the incorrect exercise 😡😡😡😡😡
Burpee = squat + plank. Everything else is a variant
Motivame más me
Get after it
Es increíble lonqie la pura voluntad puede hacer
💯
Been there done that 😴
Hopefully this comment gets you some more subs 💪
Thanks for doing this video - fantastic perspective on the PRO event. :)
Glad it was helpful!
Ive been addicted to burpees now for about 12 to 18 month usually do around 120 to 350 4 5 times a week mixtures of navys 1 pumps 2 pumps 3 and 4 nothinh better absolute life changer
Beast 💪
You should definitely challenge your viewers!
Yooo can you see the future 👀 ✨ keep an eye out for the next video
Killing it! Burpees are such a killer move for cardio and mental fortitude. You’ve gotta be a tough dude to do 100 a day. Respect!
💪 you don't have to be tough to do 100 a day, but doing it will make you tough 🧠 Respect to you too 👊
The guy with the glasses looks like Trap Lore Ross.
impressed
🙏
Great content Nik. I like your honesty and realistic videos. I am planning to do my first Hyrox. Do you train/represent a Gym/Box or do all traininga alone by yourself? Greetings from a brazilian living in Germany.
🙏thank you! I train alone. Not for everyone but it's given me a chance to figure out what works for me. Where you thinking of doing your first Hyrox?
@@NikRunTheHills cool man. I am going to Hyrox Hamburg happening in November this year. Very nervous about my performance but expecting a sub 90min 😀
@@thiags123 good luck! As it's your first, don't put too much pressure on yourself over the time. Stick to your pacing and be ready to back off or push on, depending how you feel 💪
@@NikRunTheHills thanks man. Kind and motivating words. I will let you know about my time :D
That's the ticket for me! Seeing the before and after pics did it!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
🙏
Push, neighbor
Great video really rnjoyed it !!! Thanks fir sharing Hope your well
🙏🙌
What’s the caloric deficit to achieve a six pack doing this?
I wasn't tracking at the time so not sure. It's going to be different for everyone, but I find a 400-500 cal deficit to be a good amount.
@@NikRunTheHills I’m about 15% body fat now (started from around 20%) and been eating the paleo diet (3 meals a day approximately 1200 calories) since late June while using burpees as cardio 6x a week and lifting weights 4x a week. I’ve seen improvements but it seems getting lower abs is the hard part since I haven’t seen much improvement in the past month even though I still lost some more weight. Although 500 calories seems too little and I wouldn’t want to lose muscle mass
@@namesomega3694 sounds like you're making great progress! Be patient with it. I'm not qualified to give you specific advice, but a few things that I've found help me are more carbs, less fat. More cardio and keep up the strength work. Of course sleep is king too
@@NikRunTheHills Thanks this is why I eat oatmeal with fruit and nuts as breakfast and other days eggs! Someone on Quora suggested doing 200 burpees is what got them a six pack although you achieved it in 100 days doing 100 only. After all this is only day 65 for me if not counting a monthly cheat day when going out
Don’t burpees have a jump involved?
The basic 4 count Burpee is essentially a squat and a plank. No press up, no jump. These additions are called variants
I cant push up while doing burpees what should i do😢😢
Adapt and do what you can. Straight arm plank instead?
Then I will do it thanks.
Do half rep push-ups for a month, then try again
@@badactor3440 👍
Does that mean youd say recommend fasted cardio for bodybuilders cause theyre not worried about their cardiovascular conditioning theyre worried about their fat loss and doing that would make the rime spent doing cardio more efficent for their wants
At the end all that discussions are just the cherry on top of the cake. It will literally make no real difference in fat loss or utilization or whatever. You need carbohydrates. Especially if you workout, since you’re using lots of energy in a short amount of time. You will feel literally like 💩 if you work out fully depleted on carbs.
The point being made here is that if you include any type of intensity in your program, you're going to be burning carbs. There's also a saying along the lines of "Fat burns in the flames of carbohydrates", so having available carbs will help your body burn fat. That said, if you're a bodybuilder and your cardio is walking and maybe some stairmaster, you'll likely be below that 70% VO2 max and mainly be burning fat.
And in terms of Hr ?
It varies from person to person. This zone is defined by a change in blood lactate so would need to be measured. For context though, my zone 2 using the 3 zone LT model is around zone 4 using the 5 zone HR model
I dont see how this guy is talking about "real zone 2" ,in contrast to what he disparages as some mythological pop idea from social media. He is using a 3 zone model, and using THAT zone 2. This is between ventilary threshold and lactate threshold, or zone 3 in the 5 zone model. That is usually regarded as the garbage zone. REAL zone 2 is actually zone 2 in the 5 zone model. The equivalent in the 3 zone model is upper zone 1.
Appreciate the critical push back. It's healthy to have these kind of discussions around it. I responded to a comment below using my own physiology as an example - One of the key points being made here is that on a 3 zone model there's not a lot of physiological difference occurring before LT1. For me personally, training from 120bpm to 156 bpm I'm producing almost the same lactate and burning a similar ratio of fuel. Therefore, this makes sense to be considered the same zone, however on a 5 zone model this encompasses zones 1,2 and 3, so theoretically I could train in zone 2 in a 5 zone model (and I've done lots of this type of zone 2 training) - but really is it providing any different physiological stress than training in zone 1 or 3? Whereas on a 3 zone model, zone 2 is defined by a clear physiological shift and change in metabolism. Which means training around this point will cause the body to become more used to it and push this threshold higher. Everyone's physiological profile is different and whilst defining your zones is important, it also key to understand why those zones are even considered zones.
god.. not another expert with his own BS ideas? lol
Thank you so much for dharing. I do testing at Vejle Idrætshøjskole and usually we have been using the two test approach with lactate and vo2 measurements. I think the 3 minutes increment test sounds exiting also. Do you have a reference with an in depth description of the protocol, starting velocity, how lactate is measured, incline on the treadmill. And do you think the one test approach will fit all levels?
Hey! I can of course only speak for my personal experience, but the single test approach enabled me to reach a maximum that felt aligned both cardiovascularly and biomechanically. I left the latest test feeling satisfied I'd put it all out there, whereas I wondered if I could have done more with the 2 test approach. We did a warm up at 10kmph. Then started the testing at 11kmph, for 3 mins, with 30s static to take bloods from the finger. Treadmill incline was set to 1. We started here based on my previous test. We did a total of 8 stages. 11, 12, 13, 14 (LT), 15 (LTP), 16, 17, 18kmph. I've not done the 1minute continuous increment vo2max test using incline, I imagine that would work well. If you have any other more science specific questions it would be worth reaching out to George :)
This flies in the face of Tour de France bicyclist who are very economical and have a huge VO2max how do we reconcile “inverse relationship between vo2max and aerobic economy”?
This is talking about Running Economy. Not sure how running economy relates to cycling. But, my understanding is that running economy is about calculating how much oxygen you need to run a set speed over a set distance per kg of body mass, So it makes sense that if you use less oxygen to do this, you're more economical - like getting more miles to the gallon in a car. Imagine 2 runners, one whose VO2 max in 100ml/kg/min (for ease) and one whose VO2 max is 50ml/kg/min, both are running at 15kmph at approximately 50% of their VO2 max, who is using less oxygen? I understand this to be running economy.
Great response Nik. Mirroring Nik’s comment, but adding my own part, in cycling you don’t measure economy, you measure efficiency - these are two distinct variables. Funnily enough, I would have to clarify with literature, but cycling efficiency is actually pretty consistent among levels (i.e. when measured in the lab, new cyclists and pros don’t vary in efficiency to the same extent as the economy of a new runner vs. a pro)
@@georgemorris4723 but there is absolutely no difference between cycling economy and running economy…
@@squashduos1258”In summary, both cycling economy (CE) and gross mechanical efficiency (GE) are inversely correlated to VO2max in world-class endurance cyclists. As it occurs in elite runners, a high CE/GE could compensate for a relatively low VO2max” - Lucia et al. (2003). I hope that helps to answer your question
@@georgemorris4723 ok let me rephrase…..I guess these elites (cyclists as well as endurance runners) are freaks with both an extremely high VO2Max and extremely high cycling/running economy…same goes for some endurance runner….I wonder how I their VO2max could get if they had poorer efficiency…100?!! ;-)
What book was mentioned at 33:00
Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance Book by Alex Hutchinson
What was the book mentioned for a deeper dive. Still not finding it….Enjoy???
Was wondering that too
I'm wondering that aswell
Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance Book by Alex Hutchinson
You choose where the calories come from instead of throwing darts 🎯 blindly. Love this video ❤
Hell yeah!
4 months mate
Get it!
Best moves I did pay the money for the testing. I learned so much.The sit down after with the data. Oh, my Garmin was pretty close too. Really
Came here to see what I'd get from intro offer
Very insightful video!
This is excellent content! Thank you. Plenty 💎’s
This is gold. Thank you.
Good for you, brah!
Am i understand this right ? He said that true zone 2 is at lactate treshold pace ?
LT1 not LT2 which would be what is commonly refered to as lactate threshold pace. LT1 is still easy to moderate pace.
@@ItsJakeTheBrakeno, I’m pretty sure he said that lt1 is the treshold that you can keep up to a marathon time. Lt2 is that zone where you are not able to hold that speed for a longer time. So yes, in a 3 zone model like mentioned in the video zone 2 is shortly before and after lactate threshold. Zone 1 would be considered a low intensity training, which is equivalent to zone 2 in a 5 zone model.
Finally someone said what real zone 2 is about.
Well, he uses a three zone model whereas most people use a 5 zone model. So his zone 2 equals zone 3 and 4 in most 5 zone models or zone 3 in some 5 zone models. It all depends how you define your zones. Zone 2 in a 3 zone model is no more true than any other zone 2 as long as you define your zones correctly, i.e based on lab test.
One of the key points being made here is that on a 3 zone model there's not a lot of physiological difference occurring before LT1. For me personally, training from 120bpm to 156 bpm I'm producing almost the same lactate and burning a similar ratio of fuel. Therefore, this makes sense to be considered the same zone, however on a 5 zone model this encompasses zones 1,2 and 3, so theoretically I could train in zone 2 in a 5 zone model (and I've done lots of this type of zone 2 training) - but really is it providing any different physiological stress than training in zone 1 or 3? Whereas on a 3 zone model, zone 2 is defined by a clear physiological shift and change in metabolism. Which means training around this point will cause the body to become more used to it and push this threshold higher. Everyones physiological profile is different and whilst defining your zones is important, it also key to understand why those zones are even considered zones.
@@NikRunTheHills Usually zones 1 and 2 are below LT1 in a 5 zone model and zones 3 and 4 between LT1 and LT2. Basically your zone 1 split into two parts and your zone 2 split into two parts. Both models work just as well and you are right that physiologically there are only two thresholds i.e. three zones, but for me the 5 zone model makes sense when taking intensities and specific workouts into the equation. For me zone 1 is warm up/recovery runs, zone 2 is easy runs. Zone 3 marathon workouts (5x5k etc.) and zone 4 is threshold (mile repeats etc.). I could just as well use the three zone model, but then I would be talking about recovery runs being ”low zone 1” and threshold workouts being ”high zone 2” instead.
@@woodenpicklebrewing8507 Absolutely. It's whatever works you and how you interpret/exploit those zones. I've just found my training to be much more effective since going through the testing, including more steady running and understanding these 3 metabolic zones. Great to have these critical chats as it further highlights how everyones physiology, training approach, mentality can differ - and that there is no one right way, just what's right for you.
That is the best interview on training I've ever heard.That bloke knows his stuff.Loved his 'body doesn't understand pace' ...Heard Maffetone say that back in the day.Thanks again for the brilliant footage and good luck with the training.
One of the best videos I have seen about this topic.
8:00 - I think the weight fallacy of VO2max is hugely widespread among coaches (i.e. you lose weight you increase your oxygen uptake but in fact it decreases in absolute terms at a higher rate then the tissue you are losing). Also something that Olav Bu pointed out, that you have to stop obsessing about weight
Yes mate this is everything in a 35min blast. Obviously smashing it so well done and I'll be sharing this with everyone who needs to know why we do the training we do.
Thanks mate!
awesome work Nik. Really impressive and great to hear your progress. Will be helpful for my own weight and fitness journey.
Cheers Nick! Appreciate the watch and the comment
Really interesting deep dive from George! There’s a lot of bits on steady work I’ll definitely take into my next marathon block. 💪
100% Steady runs are a game changer
Great video, can I ask how tall you are?
Thanks! 183.4cm
Did you do any other type of training during the challenge?
Yeh! Did my usual running and strength training. I put all my training on Strava
This was sooooo helpful!!!!! Hoping to bring my time down for my next race in three months!
Great to hear you found it helpful! Good luck with the preparation for your race