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I've bought a new PC especially for Fallout 4 back in 2015 and after couple of hours i lied my self that i like it. I don't consider fallout 4 and 76 to be part of the fallout universe they looks like replica to me . They don't have that vibe mix of retro cyberpunk mad max survivor post-apocalyptic nuclear game (I don't even know how to define this unique genre that bethesda killed) quest,guns,characters,creatures,atmosphere,sounds,effects,music,voice acting all sucks

Fallout 4 and 76 are not fallout games they are both boring and pathetic and they have nothing to do with the unique genre of Fallout universe

Fallout 4 is a great game it will crash out once you over load buffer from to much stuff going on such as expanding settlement way beyond the original size. I got 1350 hrs on not stop entertainment. Have play around with what it has to offer you’ll be even more surprised!!!!! Have fun all.

Little correction there you are not a fallout fan you are a bethesda fan and it make a huge difference.

Story is shit but yeah its mechanics and gameplay is always addictive

Fo4 was so good it made me binge FO1&2 for the first time, back to back; two play throughs each (standard, and low-intel unarmed). And man I LOVE Fallout 1&2. Ended up being two of the best games ive ever played. Going back to 4 just to finish it annoyed me by the end.

When I want to switch off, relax and forget my troubles I play Fallout 4. 4000 hours. I guess I got my money’s worth.

My only serious problem with Fallout 4 (PS4) is there's more glitches in the game after I updated it, including many original glitches were never fixed. As for gameplay (my first ever Fallout experience was F3, and I played that for 3 years), I'm still enjoying 3+ years of playing it, without ever having finished it...I actually have zero interest in finishing such games. I still enjoy immersing myself in that realm...fighting, scavenging, settlement building...and looking for all the hidden things not shown on the map or eluded to in conversations or clues. One of the primary elements of enjoying open world games for me, is exploration. Exploring a new realm with zero knowledge of where to go or what to do. Learning how to be effective and efficient. Learning how to play, by playing. Without ever having finished it, I've restarted about 20-30 times, whenever I've learnt something important enough to start afresh. And I have minimal interest in the story or characters, jsut enough to initiate new missions. FFS, one of the most ridiculous story elements of F4 is how Bethesda doesn't give a toss about your character's story experiences. In my case, of losing his wife, for part of obtaining special perks is to develop a love omance relationship with several female AND male charceters...yep, if your a hetero male, you have to declare your love for a male character to obtain that perk, and every time you have sex with them (not visually shown), you get an XP boost for a few hours after you both awaken from your bed. The lesser of this is to be in love with a female character, but as soon as you get the perk, you can dump them and find another lover to obtian another perk, but you can come back to any previous lover where they reside, got bed with them, and recieve the XP boost, and none of them show any distress you've dumped them and left them at a settlement, and as you still sexually hook up with them whenever it suits you. So much for the character grieving for his murdered wife, who, in his previosuly frozen mind, the event just happened. That's one reason I have minimal interest in the story aspect. In real life I'm hetero, though having no issues with homosexuality, I would never hook up with a guy as I have zero sexual arousal for such a thing. I'm not attracted to males, but I'll hook up with any bloke in the game for the game perk. But what a ridiculous proposition to put to gamers. Anyways, back to the fun of F4...three years playing and I recently restarted because I, hindsight, made the huge mistake of hoarding Power Armour. I had about 60 suits of all models, and that hoarding obsession resulted in severe game freezing whenever I came to my homebase. Now I just have one maxed out PA in every settlement, and I sell any others I get. F4 is very different from F3, and it took me a while to adjust to the new elements. One of many things I like in F4 is the much improved perk system. F3 perk system was crap. I was so disappointed in F3 when I realised one can only level up 20 perks, even though that's only a small amount of the perks...and, only if you bought the expansion packs, did Bethesda provide another 10 times one can perk up..but that still wasn't all of the perks...wtf? The perk system in F4 is well balanced and allows you to slowly fully perk up, though I've never done so as many perks, in relation to how I play, I simply have no use for them. And though I enjoy the Legendary Weapons and Armour, I find, again, due to how I play (lone wolf slealth sniper mode), I have little use for the majority of them, so I just cash them in or give them to settlement folks to use and wear. No such thing as a perfect game. But three years and counting and till enjoying my time in Fallout land...that equates to a fav game, despite the glitches and things I don't rez with.

I loved playing vanilla Fallout 4. But the real magic is in modding. Overhauling the whole game, from role-playing with new quests that add to or replace the main story. To adding to and replace the weapons. Adding new creatures, a new hunting mechanic. New locations to explore. Retexture and remodeling every item in the game. I am at the point where I really am playing more mod than game. Also Fallout London. A brilliant experience, I've tweaked that as well with some extra mods to make it even more distinct from the base game.

It depends what you like. I loved the junk system and collecting resources to improve my character. It is not an rpg it is a 3rd person adventure. As soon as I treated it like that I enjoyed it sooooo much. I am on my like 10th playthrough and I am not gonna stop

Watched your “i was wrong video on fo4, i agreed with alot of your points. Game got better coming back

Fo4 was my first Fallout game and I'm so glad it was, Far Harbor and Nuka Cola DLC's were great too, what a fun ride that game was.

You can up your settlement space by breaking down/scrapping guns. Just drop em n scrap em and that meter in the top right will go down.

3:48 bethesta did this to introduce you to the new power armor mechanic. It used to equip like basic apparel.

I think the biggest reason people misunderstood FO4 is because 3 & NV played so similar to one another people were hoping & expecting more of the same. There’s definitely overlap in 4 but you have go into it expecting a new experience. A lot of people’s complaints about it in not about what it is it’s about what it is not. Sure there’s some aspects of the previous games that was left out that woulda been nice to include but in my opinion 4 is the funnest to play.

I beat 3 & NV 2 times each. I beat 4 over 10 times.

be happy man do what you like

It is a boring game lets be realistic here, the gunplay isnt even good

I love the game I'm still rockin it

We are at a point where the current output of dev studios is so bad, and the game devs hate us so much we are left with no choice but to go back and appreciate the games that at the time of their release were not received so well. Truly a dire time for gaming.

-It's actually great -🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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The problem on why Fallout 4 may have turned off people in the beginning is because Bethesda didn't actually explain the settlement building and crafting very well. There is no tutorials. So, not knowing what to do or what the random junk in the wasteland was for made it very confusing. For example, people to this day didn't realize you could pick up dead bodies. Bethesda did a poor job with no tutorials. I had to learn from watching UA-cam creators.

Its main story is pretty bad & the settlements are related to stupid preston but other than that the game is all around pretty good. Bar its horrific gun designs that just don't look cool to use.

Fallout 4 Settlement Building; addictive isn't it? :) Settlement building is what has kept me going in Fallout 4. That and the thousands of mods out there. I've been playing Fallout since the original first launched and I have played every version of it. Fallout 4, to me, is way better than FO3 and FONV. I know that statement is going to get me a lot of hate! LOL I find it interesting that back in 2015 you weren't interested in the settlement system. These days, players rank base building as one of the features they want a game to have. I've been playing Elite Dangerous for 6 of its 10 years and every time they announced impending new gameplay, the forums would light up with people hoping it would be base building. Which it never was, until just now. Respect to you for being willing to make a video telling people that you've changed your mind. I will point out that you weren't necessarily wrong about FO4, just that you've changed your mind.

I was late comer to Fallout myself, I mistakenly thought it was a zombie game & never even looked into it, Skyrim was my jam, but I noted some of modding friends kept mentioning it, so I decided to try it out. Its actually a really great game, love it. I have over 850 hours on Fallout4 Steam so far in last 3 years, & I still haven't beaten it lol. I highly recommend visiting Nexus Mods site for all the free mods & community, there are so many great ones for Fallout 4, now the 2nd most modded game there, second only to Skyrim.

The settlement system would be much better if attacks only happned when you are nearby or in a settlement. Running to Sactuary Hills from The Castle in survival is just not worth the time spent. Attacks become population control after a while.

I dont hate fallout 4. With some choice mods you could even make it a masterpiece but I wouldn't consider Vanilla 4 good. After 3 and New Vegas it's obvious that 4 was a lazily dumbed down version of those games. It appealed to a wider audience sure but for me personally that change made the game mind numbingly dull. Radiant quests are a joke and they are only used as padding which led to quicker burnout for me. Vanilla weapons were horrifyingly non-sensical, and super bland. Factions were ok but the minutemen were the only ones that had an interesting arch. The railroad was cool because it puts you at direct odds with the ending. The Brotherhood was just too standard. All that said I can totally understand why someone who isn't familiar with earlier games might love this one. Also, weapons were bland sure but the gun play was greatly improved.

Fallout 4 is most definitely a great game. I still don't know if I would say it is my favorite Fallout game, that might still be New Vegas, but it is certainly a contender. My problem is, like many have said, it is a GREAT game, but NOT a good Fallout game; to an extent, I agree with said statement. That partly being because the game doesn't have the same feel/vibe/atmosphere that the others do. It feels less serious, dangerous, eerie, "depressing", etc. (which you want in a post-apocalyptic game). Don't get me wrong, though, it is still a great game and does deliver on those points to a degree; it just doesn't do it as well (among other issues as well, but they all have their own issues, of course). Furthermore, the base building is definitely a nice addition. I'm not super into it, but I do use the system a little. I really wish they fleshed everything out more, so that you felt like it was more of a necessity rather than a side feature made more for builders. I would of liked for the raids on settlements to be more interesting and fleshed out, so that there was more strategy and earned advancement, and maybe felt a little more "realistic" in how it worked. I'm a fan of tower defense games, so I do like the mechanic a lot, I just wish it was better implemented because besides that I don't really feel a need to build a mega settlement. I do need to force myself to do it more because there are some things settlement wise that I have barely used or not at all. When it comes to Fallout 4 though I'm usually working on my mod, rather than actually playing it (nowadays, that is), but I want to do more playthroughs in the future. As for the power armor.. yeah, that was 100% a gimmick to "wow" non-Fallout fans into trying the game. A very cheap gimmick at that. I hate that you get the armor and minigun so early, where as in the old games it was truly earned with time and effort, which then made it feel more rewarding. The whole mechanic and animations where you get into the power armor is pretty cool, though, I must say. I feel like that addition was fine, it was just how early on you got it that irked me, and still does to this day. Moreover, I LOVE the scraping mechanics. I like being able to pick up something random and getting some use out of it other than just caps, and that use can be a whole a** settlement if you want it to be. You really nailed that point on the head though, where you said it makes you feel more like how you would in real life. Basically, to an extent, being a scavenger; trying to get by with what you can. Now, the perk tree.. I have mixed feelings about. I both like it and dislike it. It is a cool feature and does work decently, but I did like the older games system too and they had some unique perks that I wish translated over to F4. My biggest problem isn't even like the layout/visuals or anything, it's how you can become a jack-of-all-trades. I want to say they should of limited what perks you can get depending on what perks you choose to get beforehand, but then again there isn't a massive amount of perks to choose from.. so that could of made it even worse. Really, once again, I just wished they fleshed it out even more. With how Bethesda is, though, that was never going to happen. Still, a fantastic game in its own right. Definitely still has its flaws, but nothing big that makes me regret buying the game or anything. Fallout 5 SHOULD be the end all be all for the Fallout franchise. It should be everyone's favorite, but I can't say I have the utmost confidence in their ability to deliver, sadly. One can only hope.

This video (which randomly appeared in my recommended) has caused me to subscribe to your channel. You have a great voice and your quiet honesty is refreshing. I have well over 1000 hours into this game and I still love it. It's still surprising with different stuff... and then there are a ton of great mods out there that make things fresh with each new run I do. I experienced the huge crashing issues on the Xbox One, but the issue essentially disappeared once I moved onto the Xbox Series X. My theory is that the game was really pushing the capacity of the Xbox One and the moment a little too much started happening the game would "spike" into a crash. With the greater capacity of the Xbox X, the issue disappeared even before they did the "Next Gen" update to the game. I'm so glad you decided to give the game a chance after experiencing the crashing issue on the Xbox One. I'm looking forward to your playthrough.

Love your channel. Really. Very serious about this. Try out Sim Settlements II. (Not the first). The first was a concept. The second is polished and brilliant. It will change the way you play Fallout forever! I think I put about 300 hours into SS2 (chapters 1 -> 3)

The legendary went to far but it is okay. Perks too went to far and I miss skills. All the factions are written as reflections of who leads them. 4s BoS is not Fallout 3s etc. Railroad is very much Desdemona's Institute is about Father, Minuteman is Preston's vision. The game aint perfect but it's still fun in 2024. New Vegas just crashes too much for me. 3 is okay except for some reason Point Lookout which glitches. Cool video.

Mate i have only just found this after just not bothering with it, now im hooked on this game, hours of fun. I feel pretty much all the things you describe in this video....also Fallout London to visit🤤

its a great game, but a mediocre fallout. the shoehorned in settlement system felt like it took away from environmental storytelling with a soulless "DIY" mentality. it didnt replace it i know, but i feel like the settlement building is how we got those god-awful generic POIs in starfield. its a natural logical conclusion, replacing handmade storytelling with lazy generated slop

Man - I agree with you so much on this that it's hard to not right a novel of a comment here. Just a few notes - tenhats has mods for new settlements, as does Ragoda (his Fairline Hill is a must have in my book), LarannKiar gives you new settlers to recruit (Jenny, Trader Rylee, Kat and Gus, Charlie and Clinton, Shelly Tiller, the wounded dog -- even a mod that makes it possible to recruit the survivors of the Institute - enough to fill an entire settlement) Orphans of the Commonwealth gives you kids, other mods get you furniture kids can actually use, let you set up a school - the works). For settlement building, the best Creation Club items to get are the Coffee and Donuts (Slocums Joe), Modern Furniture, Christmas pack, and Arcade Cabinets - you get new walls (scrap wall height, not barn and warehouse) with INTACT windows, floors, ceilings (one pre-lighted) and furniture, Arcade Cabinets (obviously), Working Fireplaces, and lots of decorations. Captain Cosmos gives 2 new power armor sets WITH jet packs... Darn, I did it again.....

I was pretty much the same. I first played FO4 on a console initially and the building was really janky at the time. This was back when the game had pretty much just came out so the game was fairly janky, lol. I played through on the X-box and got pissed about Father. Finished it because I was almost done, then went on a killing spree after taking out the institute and was absolutely done, lol. Years later I picked it up on PC and fell in love with the settlement system and the Minutemen. Funny thing... I have not played through to the end even once on PC. I literally just don't care. I'll think this play through I might as well finish the main quest, but then I get half way there and am have those stupid vertibirds from the brotherhood flying around killing my targets and being annoying as heck and I loose interest. I already know the story and I don't like it... so I gave up and now I just enjoy all the other content and try not to bring the stupid brotherhood in until I absolutely have too. I've tried doing a Brotherhood play through... yeah no. I can see the appeal for some, but I'm not a fan of the FO4 Brotherhood.

Josh, you weren't completely wrong. FO4 is such a different animal from what came before, and it feels sparse at first on the RPG side. It's a mash-up of Action-RPG, adventure, crafting, survival, and 4X...and especially in the beginning, it doesn't always work. But it pays off, in buckets, if you let it. There are still things about 4 that piss me off, but at close to 400 hours, it's the Fallout game I've committed the most blood, sweat, and tears to. And since we're post-election in the US and UK (and both were crap), "Keep Calm and Carry On!"

Let me guess you used to be a Democrat in 2020 and now you're a Republican in 2024. Who doesn't like Fallout 4? But a Democrat

Im 44. I played the OGs when they were new. Fallout 4 is my favorite. Absolute peak environmental story telling. Being older, the hate rhat got dumped on it seemed like a fad. So glad people realize what a great game it is.

I enjoyed my very first playthrough but enjoyed it even more with mods. As far as my playthroughs go now the game is boring without mods, hence the reason I play on PC. When it comes to power armor this is the feature I dislike. I don't like wearing it so I don't, it takes away the immersion in my opinion, playing in survival mode with PANC and Leveled NPC mods, the more the challenge the better. I use Combat Armor, Ballistic Weave and with the right perks I found that Power Armor is not needed and lets not leave out that I use Cross personal jetpack mod, that comes in handy. After playing Starfield I found myself back on FO4.

Like you mentioned, the trailer pointed out things that they didn't do before. The settlement system was a bold direction for the game. It was dramatically different from the other games. The cool part was, you didn't really have to do it, you can choose to build or choose to not build up settlements. When I started playing Fallout 4, I kept an open mind about it myself, wasn't real crazy with the settlement building at first but it grew on me. There was that challenge to build things up. Lets face it, games fill the hours in a day and when you get to crafting, settlement building and then exploring, those hours disappear quickly.

I think a lot of the initial reaction was nerd rage. I am a new fallout player coming to FO4 after the Tv show and I am just amazed at what passes for “disappointing” in the world of FO nerds.

Welcome to the fold! Have you done Nuka World yet?

Bethesda didn’t talk about Fallout 76 at E3 2015?

I was wrong about Fallout 4... Yes, yes you were ...and at the time we all knew it.

There is so many interesting locations to explore, is a great game imo.

Story-wise, the game is kind of meh, but the gameplay itself is truly amazing. I recently got every achievement for the PlayStation 4 version and the hardest ones to get were the Benevolent Leader achievement for the main game and the Eyes on the Prize achievement for the Nuka Cola World DLC.

load 400 mods and see how stable it remains lol My game is so broken.

It's actually one of the most stable Fallouts to mod as well. If you do it correctly.

The problems in this game didn't have to do with the perk system (it had a lot of problems, there were a lot of useless perks, but it didn't really hurt the game) They also didn't have to do with the settlement system, well, actually in a way they did... I loved building "settlements", but they were used as substitutes for actual settlements in the game and that was a BIG problem. The game needed actual towns... with actual stories... that was the games main problem. This game was fun, I loved building settlements, and tinkering with gunz, and power armor and collecting shit, and killing stuff... the game is fun... The you get into the story... and of the stories, the main story, the side stories, ANY OF THE STORIES, and they are all FUCKING TERRIBLE. Your choices never matter, nothing happens without you... the writing in this game is abysmal... I love fallout 4, I really do, in many ways it's fun... It's also one of the worst written games I've ever played, the plots are terrible, the world building is terrible, the characters are terrible... The writing has no redeeming qualities... I love Fallout 4, but as a turn my brain off walk around and shoot stuff, so I can collect shit to mod a new gun kinda way, and that's not what I want from a fallout game. I liked the interesting stories of Fallout 1 and 2... We had Red Terrets raiders, and if you read their stuff a rival gang kidnapped her sister to force Terrets into giving them food from the National Guard depo, only they killed her sister... It's the start to what might have been an interesting little story, maybe we could join Terret's gang and figure out what happened to her sister, maybe punish the ones who killed her and reconcile the gangs and then civilize them, turn them away from raiding... Wouldn't that have been more interesting than just going in and murdering all of them... It was the writing that fell on its face here. Emil Pagliarulo talks about in his infamous interview writing the "Great American Novel" and players ripping out the pages and making paper airplanes, and we do, cuz his "Great American Novel" was worse than reading Cosmo... The gameplay here was so good that the writing couldn't ruin it, but it changed this game from a compelling RPG to a brainless shooter. This isn't fallout anymore... When I want to just zone out and not think I love Fallout 4, but Every time I talk to an NPC I am reminded of just how bad this games narrative is... I'm torn, I hate what Bethesda has done to Fallout, I hate that they have ripped out all the RPG, all the depth, all the stories, the very tone that made Fallout what it used to be... I loved the original Fallout, but I also love Fallout 4... I guess the truth is that to me this isn't fallout anymore, its Skyrim with guns, and I like that. I wish Bethesda hadn't done this to Fallout, I wish it was still dark humor, intelligent writing, thoughtful stories, well-crafted worlds with well-realized characters, I miss what it used to be, and I hate what Fallout has become, but I don't hate Fallout 4...