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True faith vs false isn't just a word or clique. Amazing your deconstructionist postmodernism has completely suffocated any honest reading of the Bible you may ever had.

I think what helped me reach acceptance was that I stopped believing and gave up on the Church a while ago - largely because people's actions didn't match up with their beliefs too often, and that the church seemed to do more harm than good. That then led me to examine the link between belief and actions, realising that beliefs really aren't that important - which certainly helped me go quicker through the stages of deconstruction. I think there's also a temptation for some to go back - having moved thorugh a stage to go back into a previous one?

Thank you so much for this interview. I deconstructed before there was a name for what I went thru... this interview confirmed my experience and many of the things I learned as I went thru what is now called deconstruction. One of my concerns about the people on some of the deconstruction online groups I am subscribed is that people get stuck in the process... stuck in their anger... stuck in their fear... stuck in their isolation... etc. My other concern is that they get so terrified of the unknown that they return to the safety of the known...as one person I know has and in that return is more avidly stuck than she was before she left it. Again thank you. This is the best talk on deconstruction that I have heard. Shari, PK and former missionary of the holiness, die-to-self, fundamentalist Evangelical lineage

I get sad when l leave Lighthouse Baptist Church in Lewistown Montana and l don't know why.

Thank you for this talk. Its the first talk I've heard describing what I lost when I left the cult I was in. I am an Evangelical, funamentalist holiness Preacher's Kid who grew up in the church then I went to a missionary training center that had the same beliefs and joined their mission in Puerto Rico. We lived communally, working, eating, playing together 24/7, buying necessities with a $20 allowance and "trusting God" for the rest. Outside relationships were discouraged. Cruel abuse rampant but, it was home for 14 years. Unhealthy. Yes. Frightening because you never knew what was going to be demanded of you next. But, I miss the good, fun parts... the relationships I had and lost when I left. Yes, you were shunned if you left because you were leaving God's best for your life. When you joined, you gave up everything, including furniture, cars, future, inheritances...everything. And you joined for life. There is a part of me that will always miss my cult family. But, I am free now. I am not safe in church so I do not attend. LONELY, YES.

A common denominator from all the stories I hear is, "what I missed, or what I have now, I was hurt, this was done to me." It's about "me" and "my" life, and "my living." However, if you at some point made a decision to follow Christ then life is not about you. Taking one's cross is about sacrifice, not about self-fulfillment. Life is a gift that was meant for "God's glory." It was never about us. I hear so much about people being so busy when they are in the church. The answer is so easy. Stop doing things for the church. People in the church should only do what they are called to do. Some do it because it's easy to get paid in some churches Others not so much, but they don't know what else to do in life. Get a good education, work hard, and save money, if that's your thing. Some people have never had anything explained to them and only do things in the church because they were manipulated or because they can cover certain needs. Don't! You'll live a lot easier. But if you're called to do something, then do it and don't complain that you don't get free time. The thing is, most of those stories come from people who were not supposed to do the things they did while in church. They made it about them and what they did, and then blamed the church and God(if they still believe in God). I am truly sorry for the hurt and all the bad things people go through. It's people following people that brings the pain. When you follow Jesus for who He is, all that is very different. John 16:33 "I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world." You will never truly be happy or find true joy that lasts outside of Christ. All you'll ever have is a glimpse.

God. Bless bro. Havent. Been to. Church. In. 20 years Jesus loves. Us. Thank. God

Love him ❤

I stumbled upon your series by accident and the timing could not be better! My deconstruction is a more than a decade long ride on a roller coaster with phases of anger, denial, bargaining, attempts to reconstruct, moments when things start falling in places and currently the angry phase is back... I long for a community, but as a well-trained people-pleaser I try to not disturb anybody for so long until I realize I cannot suppress myself any longer. I am learning to notice my gut feelings in tiny baby steps. :-D Thanks for creating this space, it is a sort of a community that I miss.

Youre being vague as to what spiritual abuse is the problem im seeing

You are free... To believe that tangibly functional by any metric

People can dersern good and evil... That's funny I thought it was supposed to be relative... I guess not🫤

You dont own yourself... Nah that fundamental on an epistemological level

You are free to believe whatever suits you best in life... You're not free of the constituents of failure from that And that is universal

Right because there is no such thing as a good person... You got it

Relationships arent a band friend... There a blade with a broken handle

In dont reject, because i remind people the reality of this world... That yall fail to see

I fear that i might hurting people so I shouldn't worry about going to jail... Thats sound

That also applies to abortion

Whats that?

it is same for me as well

Your JEsus is Satan.

You are of your father the devil.

I wondered also about being angry at ourselves? Having spent so much of my life dedicated to Christianity and working in the church and really letting myself be so completely shaped by them and not even knowing who I really was? I also wonder if there is room for ongoing anger? Not to be stuck there, but just as with the scars that will never fully disappear, the attached emotions will have some residual part...

I'd argue the problem of evil only exists in religions where one god exists. Pantheon religions have multiple minds, which would lead to differences in opinion of what is right

The depression is definitely rough. Finding meaning and purpose is really difficult.

This concept needs to be backed up by Scripture and preached from the pulpit. The church has been indoctrinated to believe that the pastor is the mouthpiece of God and must be obeyed w/o question. Just saying you reject that authority doesn't prove it's unbiblical. Prove it.

U give me clarity and uts been 7yrs😮

Maybe, just maybe God is calling people out of the church system so all of us can have more of an intimate relationship with him.

Wow. Ur blood work must be great and can eat what you want.

Thank you for sharing this. I am going through this and its very hard

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Sorry, Yall, it's been a Looooong day!!! The other author, is Bro.Steve Simms., of Beyond church and The joys of early Christianity. Blessings and sweet sleep Bro.Chaz.

Lastly, Does Anyone, on this Y.T. channel, know, what a Highly Sensitive Person, is?

One more thing, the cults, are copying something. What is a Good counterfeit??? They are perverting - AUTHENTIC Spiritual Community ✨️ 🙏 🙌 😍 ♥️ ❤️ ❤

I would also, like to recommend, to anyone here..... Dr.Larry Crabb's book-(Soul Talk), Love Yall family. Blessings and sweet sleep Bro.Chaz. There is Community, and then there is communism!!! Do Yall, Really know, who king james was, he was a Mason, and roman catholic. 1 John 1:7, tells it All!!! Church, is to be fused with a Con., a pint of poison, in a ocean of truth!!!❤ religious control. What did the the early Christ followers of the 1st and 2nd century have? Thay had King-dom, not king james! They had Ekklasia, not church. The Very best Lies are 90-95%, true. Its spiritual pest control. I look forward to hearing youre futher 💡 ideas, Bro N.P.

I would also, like to recommend, to anyone here..... Dr.Larry Crabb's book-(Soul Talk), Love Yall family. Blessings and sweet sleep Bro.Chaz.

Authentic Spiritual Community. KING-DOM....... THE KING AND HIS DOMAIN!!!❤

I do somewhat get it.. Not a religuous my self, but spritual, sexual, emotiional abuse done by people or denying who should protect is a betryal of worst kind. People who get pissed if You try minimize the experienced violence (my experoence,) is been most validating,. You still got spunk, to me it tells alot. There should be somekind of virtual simulstor that would make certain people experience the same, without traumatizing, it might actually Make differrnce in any collective.

Leave the church they've in apostasy anyway, never leave God

I've tried to explain to folk that are still there and its like there's a brick wall there..u can't get through.

Any advice on how To be free as uts been 7yrs now.

I can totally get abt the emotional intimacy and this is what traumatises you when u leave. You're basically shunned. The phone will not ring even to ask how u are or go for a coffee?

Thanks

Thank you. I needed to hear it❤

Thank you for these words 💛 I struggle with the grief of years seemingly lost in ministry family life, and what gave up.but I’m trying to remember that it’s all part of our story.

Well said!! Love it!! Thank you 🙏

I tried many places to belong and never could so I finally gave up: not God. Just church. I watched other people belong and it hurt to go through recovery one more time till the next Sunday. I`m glad others get to have that. And I`m sorry for the people who lose it for what ever the reason. I find community in one on one encounters with somebody now and then who treats me like a real person and not some kind of Pinocchio. God is my "with" and He says I`m real.

I need more wall space!!!

DANG! :FIRE