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The Most Broken Character in Slay the Spire
Thanks to substitute and ocean in the Slay the Spire Discord for their help with the textless title screen mod. Thanks Maddy for the mix and voice lines.
Sources:
Eggplant: The Secret Life of Games - 25: Slay the Spire with Anthony Giovannetti - eggplant.show/25-slay-the-spire-with-anthony-giovannetti
Merl's Reddit AMA - reddit.com/r/slaythespire/comments/rkooih/world_record_holders_watcher_tier_list
Merl's December 2021 Watcher Tier List VoD - twitch.tv/videos/1238636216
Merl's Watcher World Record Streak Playlist - Runs 35, 36, & 38 - ua-cam.com/play/PLb-mifefXLb1wENbB1fVfBQzMhTOKF-kA.html
Merl's Watcher Tier List v1.2 on TierMaker - tiermaker.com/list/video-games/watcher---slay-the-spire-tier-list-462015/1835176
Music (in order):
World 1 (Jungle) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Story Mode Scene 4-2 - Super Monkey Ball 2
Monkey Fight 2 (Menu) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Monkey Billiards 2 (Menu) - Super Monkey Ball 2
World 4 (Whale) - Super Monkey Ball 2
World 3 (Ocean) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Adam's Revenge - SSX Tricky
Gin and Sin - SSX Tricky
Monkey Shot (Menu) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Monkey Baseball (Grass Court) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Story Mode Scene 6-1 - Super Monkey Ball 2
The Classroom - Mario Strikers Charged
Event (The Base) - Sonic Adventure 2
Big Fishes at Emerald Coast - Sonic Adventure
00:00 Intro
01:13 Part 1: The Combo
05:01 Part 2: The Cards
09:07 Part 3: The Watcher is Fun
Sources:
Eggplant: The Secret Life of Games - 25: Slay the Spire with Anthony Giovannetti - eggplant.show/25-slay-the-spire-with-anthony-giovannetti
Merl's Reddit AMA - reddit.com/r/slaythespire/comments/rkooih/world_record_holders_watcher_tier_list
Merl's December 2021 Watcher Tier List VoD - twitch.tv/videos/1238636216
Merl's Watcher World Record Streak Playlist - Runs 35, 36, & 38 - ua-cam.com/play/PLb-mifefXLb1wENbB1fVfBQzMhTOKF-kA.html
Merl's Watcher Tier List v1.2 on TierMaker - tiermaker.com/list/video-games/watcher---slay-the-spire-tier-list-462015/1835176
Music (in order):
World 1 (Jungle) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Story Mode Scene 4-2 - Super Monkey Ball 2
Monkey Fight 2 (Menu) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Monkey Billiards 2 (Menu) - Super Monkey Ball 2
World 4 (Whale) - Super Monkey Ball 2
World 3 (Ocean) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Adam's Revenge - SSX Tricky
Gin and Sin - SSX Tricky
Monkey Shot (Menu) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Monkey Baseball (Grass Court) - Super Monkey Ball 2
Story Mode Scene 6-1 - Super Monkey Ball 2
The Classroom - Mario Strikers Charged
Event (The Base) - Sonic Adventure 2
Big Fishes at Emerald Coast - Sonic Adventure
00:00 Intro
01:13 Part 1: The Combo
05:01 Part 2: The Cards
09:07 Part 3: The Watcher is Fun
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Yet so forgotten
Yeah i learned pretty early on in the game the easiest way to win with the first 3 is to just get the prism and a few watcher cards. I have never lost a run with it :)
Hold up, 3:26. Why tf are there FIVE cards available?
Its a Boss relict
I bought the game 3 days ago, and got my 1st win on 2nd Watcher playthrough today with my atrocious almost 30+ cards deck (most of wich were at bottom of the tierlist here). Its goal was to survive untill Divinity (mainly using the calm armor power wich name I forgot) and kill all enemies in one turn with retained created cards (upgraded by Master Reality). Oh, and that card wich gave you more and more energy each turn was crucial to this strategy. Needles to say, I managed to beat Time Eater thanks to two Divinity Potions I held for all my run. This game is so fun!
It's so stupid, I've never tried this and the watcher is the only character I haven't beat the game with. I was playing her wrong.
As a defect who has a 1/3 chance to die to gremlin nob at act1 I find this vile sickening
Okay why is Vault considered to be good? If it cost 1 then yeah, duh, but it's 3 which is your whole turn at start of game. Is the power evaluation only in the context of the combo? Because outside of that it feels more like "mulligan this turn's hand" than "take another turn"
Its good because of the energy Generation From the stance
Played 1 run with the watcher knowing nothing about her and steamrolled the heart. Very easy character
Dont lie
She's not op lol
she absolutely is
@@fruitsalad1362 correction, She's op early, afterwards no, She has the worst ways to block out of any character and arguable the worst draw, she falls off hard being what I meant lol
@@Jay-eo5sx Fair
@@Jay-eo5sxyes she is afterwards, because of the easiest infinite3combo in the game
@lanolabombalok6730 my experience if you focus on getting the right setup for infinite combo then it's entirely luck that you get the right cards and you end up dying by not taking anything else. She has the easiest to get infinite but no infinite is that easy to get consistently lol
Can't find the Merl tierlist anywhere. Anyone knows how to find it?
2:30 omg activate quick mode on setting please
So the infinite is the most fun when it’s not infinite 🤔
Despite being close to platinum I am just a regular gamer of slay the spire. That being said I don't know how anybody can say that hymn card is bad. This, master reality and establishment is a basic combo also I like conjure blade. One more thing Can anyone tell me if there is a possible alternative reality where hello world does not destroy your whole deck.
Feel like Watcher decks generally end up the same way too. Compare that to Silent or Defect where decks can vary a lot.
Peak name. Uploads peak video. Fucking disappears. Based asf
I never realized this combo was a thing and I am on Ascension 16 on Watcher (20 on the rest). Maybe I can finally get Watcher to 20 with this. God I'm dumb.
Not going to lie. I'm an idiot savant when it comes to slay the spire but that only that applies to the original Three characters. I can get to Ascension 20 on every single character besides the watcher within a week. I don't understand why I can't play with that character
Im not smart enough to use her.
Make more vids bro
heat quality for a first video subbing and looking forwards to more slay the slide content!
Dang wish you could do one for the Packmaster
00:50 Success in a row are interesting. But win rates would be even more. :-)
There is only one broken character and we don't start with er. Isn't it nice that this character makes it easier to experience the infinite... and to start testing certain challenges with a better chance of success?
While you are correct and I do agree with evreything in the video... one point I was hoping to see here is the fundamental reason that Watcher completely breaks the game. The thing is that leaving calm gives energy, which just fundamentally breaks the energy economy of this game. The game just isn't balanced around this. You could fix most of Watcher's playstyle by rewarding block rather than energy by leaving calm. It might make the character less fun in the end though, but it would be the way to actually start balancing her against the other characters.
On top of that Watcher's big problem is Blocking. Like most high level players basically play Watcher as a Smorc machine because killing enemies and ending the fight is a lot better than using her mostly mediocre defensive cards. And the defensive cards that aren't meh all play to the infinite or are benefited by Stance Dancing. You can build a viable deck with lots of the cards that Merl Considers completely unnecessary. But why do that when, thanks to calm and some admittedly baffling upgrade choices, you can very easily just go infinite and then get something like Mental Fortress to get the heart done with
Ohhhh I've been there, done that infinite Watcher combo time after time, and hated every second. If I did not do it, I felt like loosing on purpose. But if I did it, it was awfully boring, depleting hundreds of HP, 9 a time, while having satisfying 50+ damage cards in hand that, if played, destroyed the combo. It sure is good if you want to win, but MAAN do I hate it.
I struggled with watcher for a while. Was able to beat ascension 20 with the og trio with what I would imagine is a normal amount of time. I was stuck on ascension 15 with watcher, keep in mind I breezed through like the first 10 ascensions, but then i hit a wall. Then after a year of not playing I went back to StS and was able to complete 16-20 in about 2 days of trying. Didn't know about the infinite or anything like that, but the brokenness definitely stood out way more.
Creates channel. Posts a single video, a suber based and amazing STS one Leaves Refuses to elaborate further.
Hey, are you going to make any more videos?
this video is so good please come back
One vid and dip. Great stuff.
but she silly :3
great vid bro, love to see peaple speaking properly on balance in games
The watcher just has too much control
Amazing video
Man where are you? Make some more videos this was really good. Hope you're not dead caise that would be kinda awkward
Wait is thunder strike bad??
Every card has its use. If your deck is better with thunder strike take thunder strike. Don't believe anyone saying a card is "useless" or anything like that unless ot's clash
It scales very slowly and at 3 energy it's difficult to play. If you can make enough lightning orbs for thunderstrike to deal respectable damage, then your lightning orbs are probably already killing stuff. It's basically either useless or redundant a lot of the time, with a very narrow sweet spot where it's legitimately good.
This video is epic
I always play as the watcher. Btw My strategy I used to kill fading spider lookin dude is: vajra, foreign influence, damaru, prostrate, worship, devotion, master reality, alpha, scrawl, infinite, beta, omega, deva, wish for strength, enter divinity, play all attack (only draw card and stance related), signature move, end turn doing A lot of dmg cuz of omega + upgrade from master reality + other dmg killing it. Not in that order.
Dont hate me but i love Watcher runs where i just find a Pressure Point fight one and just start removing everything except the points and Block/Draw Cards is super fun and honestly pretty strong
Make more videos
Make moar videos
Yeah when i got the mobile version i cycled through the charchters in order and literally the 1st time i played the watcher on my phone i got the i infinite and beat the heart(i do have 500+ hours on the pc so that helps but still)
16:20 Absolutely not. I’m honestly not sure why anyone would even entertain the idea that the Watcher’s existence in the game somehow makes it objectively worse.
U sound so cringe
this video makes me realize how much normally i've been playing The Watcher and how she just kinda became my fav character and also the first to get me to A20 (admittedly after months of grinding). I have never used any infinite of this game, including hers, because 1. I normally don't pay attention to these types of synergies during my run, or any opportunity to pick cards that can help me get to it. And 2. I'm just really bad at setting up these infinites. So I just vibe with what i got and eventually got to enjoy all of Watcher's cards equally. Seriously i even won many runs with a Battle Hymn and Expunger deck
what I think would be cool is a feature where the game recognizes an infinite and automatically wins you the fight once you've set it up. This way you still get all the excitement from setting up the perfect combo but at the same time you don't have to slog through 10 minutes of calm down, erupt
Wild that anyone can look at scrawl and think watcher balance was anything but intentional. She’s just there so casuals can scrape out some wins when they start to feel bad and because being overpowered is actually kind of fun until you spend so many years playing the game in to the ground that you completely forget the sense of wonder that comes with playing a game out of more than just habit.
She broken because she was added last, so they half-assed the game balance. No video needed
it makes me kinda sad that she's considered OP. I love monks and martial arts characters, and I fell in love with her when I unlocked her. Now that I know she's the best I feel like most of my games are invalidated.
Honestly, I think it's perfectly fine to have a busted character in a solo game. Plus getting to the infinite in the first place is quite fun, and all characters can do it in one way or another, Watcher just happens to be the easiest to "solve".
I would rather a 4th interesting character and leave the busted stuff for things like daily challenges
The problem with a character being busted in STS is the fact that it means more than half their cards are useless. Watcher is so strong with less than 25% of her cards, so why would you ever need to pick up stuff like Pressure Points, Master Reality, Alpha, etc. etc.?
@@there-is-weeping-in-the-at1746 because it's funny
@@clowdyglasses True!