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Fucking spoilers dude, pick a different image for your video please

14:20 Some of my thoughts Ive heard people refer to people who aremt nonbinary as they before The they pronoun couldve also been used to make the story more ambiguous? I have no clue.

I always interpreted all the scuff as just how every single TV show just deteriorates in quality as it goes on.

I stopped watching when you bragged about the translation of Danganronpa for 2 minutes instead of getting to the point.

So we're going to keep pretending that V3 didn't exist as a call out to the unhinged fanbase the series has. Ok then

16:00 you forgot, where Kaede Akamatsu gets a "head-ache" when trying to remember & inreturn somewhat became herself again, without the first flashback light memory. Even in one of Tsumugi's free-time event with Kaede has Tsumugi call out Kaede spoke differently to what she was expected to say. Also "Why is Tsumugi the only staff on site?" Simple, IT'S A SIMULATION & there's evidencce to back this up, with what the Monokub's says to Kaede & Shuichi about the outside area of the school, matches how the NEO World Program also works, it also explains how Tsumugi also changes characters in the final trial, like how Miu changed the avatars in the NEO World Program... and the simulation matches what is seen in Kaede's Headache (Yes there is indeed a CGI that appers for a short moment), it also explains how Kiibo became a Robot when he was a human in the prologue.

They made the entire stupid last episode to piss ppl off because they're forced to make v3 they didn't even want to make more danganronpa so the best thing to do is to ruin it so ppl don't ask for more

I just came to say that I love V3’s ending and Tsumigi is the best Mastermind and have my own theories but to tired to lay it all out. But this thumbnail is a full blown spoiler, I got spoiled that Tsumigi was the Mastermind in chapter four of V3 and I didn’t suspect her at all. I was watching a gameplay on YT at that time and it was an unfortunate event that I saw it. (I’ve seen a comment that they got spoiled by this thumbnail)

IM PROUD OF YOU!

I think I just figured something out. The funeral scene is absolutely real. I’m almost certain that each character was kidnapped and presumed to be dead by the general population. My guess is that each character really did have an ultimate talent and in the beginning stages Tsumugi erased their memories and made them random students in order to make the fake interview videos which could be used for a variety of motives. Then she reverted them back to normal to start the game. Also another thing that points to her straight up lying about everything is the technology used in the game. All of it is reflective of the kind of tech found in the other games. Obviously Monkuma robots, but also the biggest one is memory erasing and brainwashing. Maybe they were developed specifically to make the show, but I doubt that. I might be wrong, but I’m absolutely certain that Tsumugi saw the first killing game and tried her best to cosplay/copycat or cosplaycat in her words Junko’s first killing game

POV : you're full of sh*t

I think part of the problem is that we in the west didn't really experience all the trickery the first two games pulled since we didn't get the Japanese marketing and got both 1 and 2 nearly back to back. The first game's marketing all heavily featured Sayaka in a leading role, framing her as our main side girl. The demo showcased half of the 'first trial', with Hiro being murdered and the evidence leaning towards Hifumi. Plus a second trial sporadically shown in trailers depicting someone attacking Junko at night. All of that was a lie. Sayaka dies first and was also involved. Danganronpa 1 also does not have a clean ending with solid answers in a vacuum at all. We never see what's past the door. Was Junko telling the truth, or is the world fine and she was just psychotic and had photoshopped some stuff. Our only corroborating witness is an insane nutter who speaks in tongues and doesn't give much detail. What happened in that old classroom, how did Junko erase our memories if she even did, zero answers. Danganronpa 0 came out a year later and is effectively the foundation for the rest of the series(the amount of stuff in both 2 and the anime that originates here is astounding). DR2's marketing and character design was intentionally designed to cause as much confusion as possible. A ton of characters looked like other characters or had certain attributes. Some very blatant (Byakuya seemingly returning, Nagito's name is an anagram of It's Makoto Naegi!, Akane looks super close to Aoi) and some more subtle(most of the rest of the cast). Was this a sequel to the first game or a prequel? Is this the same Byakuya? Are some of this cast actually just the old cast? Is this a retelling or some sort of AU? Are these the last games characters kids? It's impossible to tell for the bulk of the game if this is a prequel, sequel, AU, or anything of the sort. It's even more confusing in context because remember, this is AFTER Danganronpa 0, and before the DR3 Class 77-B retcon. Alongside stuff like Izuru hanging in the back of peoples minds, we know of 2 students in Class 77 already, Ultimate Neurologist and Ultimate Spy. Neither of them are in DR2, so if it's a sequel they're both already dead and if it's a prequel something else happened, but either way, there are only 16 students to a class here which means two people in SDR2 don't belong. Someone playing the game in Japanese who's read DR0 knows about Matsuda and Yuto and is suspicious to start with, and will probably believe it's Byakuya and The Traitor, but nope, it's US and Chiaki. (This detail was ruined by an anime retcon splitting the class in two so they could make Chiaki real and then invent Mitarai to do the brainwashing stuff even though I'm pretty sure Matsuda could have done something like that being Junko's brainwashing guru was kind of his thing). And again, vague ending as to the exact fates of everyone. V3 again pulled the same tricks, cranked up hard again and sort of combining the previous games. Just like DR1, the marketing and start of the game is misleading. But rather than being about the sidekick, it's about the Protagonist, Kaede is the Chapter 1 killer and midway through the trial we switch to playing as the Ultimate Detective. There's also a demo, which both tricks us into thinking this will be intimately tied to the first games and makes us question the universe/timeline(just like DR2 did), but also kills Hiro basically as a joke/callback to DR1's demo. V3 is extremely vague about if this takes place in the mainline canon or not, just like DR2 was. In English they further crank this up by reusing old VAs for everyone to maximise confusion. Just like DR1 we have zero clue how much we can trust the ending, just like with Junko we can't be sure the pictures shown to us weren't tampered with, can't trust our memories since a way to mess with them is established, can't trust our witnesses who may not be right in the head. Is Tsumugi honest, partially lying, or completely full of crap? Sure, Junko ended up being utterly honest at the end of DR1, but along with her character being very different (harsh, horrific truths and half riddles. Tsugumi lies way more) Danganronpa loves to parallel itself, but rarely directly repeat itself. All 3 games have a dark secondary sidekick, but Byakuya is the only one to survive, Kokichi is the only one to actually be murdered by someone else. Nagito is the only one to off himself. All 3 games have a double murder chapter, but DR1 is the only one to have two killers(Hifumi killed Taka and Celeste killed Hifumi), in the other two it's the same person both times. All 3 games have a chapter where someone is accused of being a serial killer alongside the blackened and that is used as evidence to tie them in. In DR1 they were correct about Toko being Genocider Syo, but wrong about her being the Blackened, she was framed. In DR2 they were correct about Peko being the blackened, but wrong about her being KiraKira(she intentionally mislead them to pull her 'I was only following orders' trick). And in DRV3 they're correct on both counts, Korekiyo is both the Sister Killer and the Double Blackened.

I think the major issue with V3's ending is that the flashback lights are too OP (combined with the Blacklight introduced at the start). You literally can just flash one and warp one's complete understanding and memories. And since emotions are directly related to how you remember an event, it calls into question nearly the entire story. How much of it was the characters actually performing their actions of their own free will? Did they even have free will? Or was it all influenced by Tsumugi? And why should we even care? Team DR can just flashback the world and they all love the show again. Even worse, the game completely ignores that Tsumugi isn't the Mastermind. The Mastermind is Team DR and it isn't really the world's fault. Team DR could stop at any time and refused (we can see this IRL where series can end even though fan interest is still at an all time high). So shouldn't we be facing Team DR as the true culprits and point out fairly that the flashback lights are OP and can't be stopped. I just stopped caring since how much of the characters are real and not artificially induced is subjective and impossible to determine. Almost the entire game depends on this plot twist and all I can think is "So like couldn't everyone just be murdered by Tsumugi in a dress? All she has to do is implant the memories and the characters will believe they did it." It isn't exactly her writing a script but her just doing as she pleases and building the narrative approximately she wants. Again, I get that it isn't a strict script, but like, why should I care when what little of the characters exists is probably fake? They themselves according to the twist are not real in their own world anymore. It's entirely possible it's all a lie, but the game itself has nothing to suggest what is true beyond theories or speculation. There's no substance that any of the characters even the initial incarnations are when Tsumugi or Team DR could have just flashbacked them into believing that. In that regard, who is supposed to be the real person? What is the actual truth? For a game about lies and truth, they should do a good job of making lies and truth the same, but a terrible job making some players feel satisfied with that answer.

Not to mention, who other than the Ultimate Cosplayer could get so attached to the killing games and its ‘characters’, enough to want to replicate it? Is that not what cosplay is?

Am I the only one who thinks that the 1983 on the TV screen references when Freddy's opened and not the year of the game like most TM and all rights reserve stickers do

Danganronpa is something people are obsessed with? A worldwide success? ... sorry, my lungs do not have the air capacity required I need to laugh as loud as I need to to properly mock this idea. As far as I know, ever since DR 53 came out this franchise is pretty much dead. And it should stay dead.

It’s a common theory that shows move to space in a desperate bid to save ratings. Maybe the staff jumped ship? There’s also adding some plucky kid character that usually turns out annoying. … Oh that would be the monocubs wouldn’t it? Or your theory works too.

Please change the thumbnail. spoilers, my guy

You gotta understand I walked into this fully accepting that it was all a TV show and then everything you pointed out, started me. Thank you. The closest game show I can think that would be like this big brother especially the American version. Now ask yourself this the goal of killing game is that one person kills somebody gets away with it and then everybody else dies. Ask yourself this would you watch a season consisting of two episodes? Sure, it’s unlikely that somebody would get away with it especially when facing see a full 16 person group doing investigations, but let’s just say they did that means that they invested a ton of money, and concepts. Only for that to be cut short. No company would ever do that. No TV show would ever do that. The idea that Danganronpa is just a TV show false flat when you consider the tech as well You have hidden rooms in the school you have a robot is essentially shooting a giant, either laser or energy blasts you you have Nanities and equipment that can brain wash. The brainwashing equipment alone would raise red flags the world over. I think you’re right, I don’t think it’s a show. These could all just be despair, infected people who were brainwashed and into thinking that they were normal people that being said I also love how this ends with the idea of hope despair it doesn’t matter all that matters embracing the world whatever it may be.

another interesting thing is that Kaede once had a flash where she seemed to be wearing some sort of headset. just a shot in the dark, but Tsumugi's killing game might take place within a virtual world, it would certainly explain how humanity now has a bunch of sci fi stuff not long after they were driven to near extinction. also, we do know that at the beginning Keebo was a real person, you can see his fleshy self during the prolouge, which is kinda weird, cuz Tsumugi implies that Keebo was created solely for the killing game

22:03 but The bite of 87 was the reason for why animatronics weren’t allowed to free roam during the day anymore and Fredbear isn’t a free roam animatronic.

gah after so many years of my love/hate relationship w danganronpa, i still gotta say i think this is the most interesting game in the series! this was such a good analysis, the detail of the cosplay lab floor matching the interviews is insane, I've never seen anyone point that out b4! I think personally v3 was intentionally created as a mystery not meant to be solved, (really obviously contradictory cutscenes- also a neat way to encourage replayability lol) and also to b self-contained, much like the original trigger happy havoc. in thh the ending shot cuts off before we can see the outside world, because whether or not it had actually been destroyed or it was junko's lie was irrelevant, it was the choice of the characters to see it for themselves that mattered. The intention was similar in v3, whether or not the characters were "real" is or should be irrelevant to the impact of their stories and our attachment to them. It's basically the most convoluted way of saying "fiction affects reality." v3 is a love letter and goodbye to danganronpa, it subverts the formula as much as it adheres to it, and is the most "meta" game in the series, which basically says "danganronpa shouldn't go on forever" (it still will, in fangames which explore concepts that we never got in canon... no 3rd trial double murder? no 3rd trial double murder PLEASE), and also, "we want to make a killing game that doesn't *have* to take place in the same universe" (because it's extremely limiting). tbh this is why a lot of fans like me prefer to just see it as being in an equally canon but different continuity (getting to the last chapter and whoops gotchya ofc this has to be connected to the previous games almost made me wanna smack my head against a wall... danganronpa gonna danganronpa) but the lack of clarity is one of the reasons people still talk about it, it's the reason there's something to come back to. woah whatta tangent yap yap yap anyway yeah this is a good theory with nice supporting evidence that does feel like something they would do 👍 ive been on a fnaf theory binge lately so it's insane to me that i found this channel thru danganronpa of all things, your style and presentation are really engaging (´・ω・)っ由

I believe there's just one thing that, somewhat unrelated but that still is a bit, and goes unexplained in the game is Keebo. After all, in the flashbacks, there aren't markings on his face (which you could say we're covered up with paint/makeup) and his clothes resemble his in-game body too closely, in a way that I don't think it would be possible for him to hide that high collar of his body under that jacket's high collar in a feasible way. This doesn't have much to do with the ending theory that was presented in the video (disproving or agreeing), but it's something that wasn't mentioned, and it also isn't in the game, and I'm not sure what that means for the cast and the world outside that killing game. After all, the video does not specify the methods the remnants of despair would be using to create these copycat killing games, and so it might be a virtual world, since they changed Keebo's whole existence, but if it's in the real world, it's very weird and would need an explanation. (In a virtual world, we know it's possible because of Nekomaru, so there's precedent, but then this is a world of ultimates, so maybe they transferred his consciousness to a robot OR they just created a robot based on the 'real' Keebo we see at the start)

"how they handled Chiori" what the hell do you mean by that? Are you saying that Chiori should have been trans? Even though the whole point of him was that he was hiding his true identity because he didn't feel like he DESERVED to be a man, not that he wants to be a women. Anyway short rant over

To be fair game Translations are rarely fixed

It does feel heavily flawed, to the point of losing all its meaning. According to the prologue, only Rantaro, the previous Survivor of the last game, knew what was going on. Nobody else seemed to be aware, and this includes Tsumugi who's supposed to be the one running everything in the first place. Then even as the mastermind, she's too unreliable with her "Cospox" and unclear line of what's "real" and "lies"... It really begs the question of what the audience is supposed to believe, and for the most part the only "real" idea of the narrative is headcanon. There's no actual canon to be found, almost fittingly since the game's central gimmick is lying.

No, no this is just as dumb as I remember. As long as the whole game being dumb

There was really no need for such a spoiler thumbnail. If anyone is playing through the game rn and the algorythm somehow recommends your video, they're getting spoiled for free.

The flashback lights could easily be used to broadcast memories of a good time but instead they use it to rewrite memories for a fucking killing game. It's an extremely stupid plot point. V3 is a stupid game. Like why bother going to the trouble of killing people when you could just beam entertainment directly into people's heads?

I've been a fan of the Danganronpa series for roughly four years, and this video is the best coverage I've seen on the logical inconsistencies for V3's ending

Guys what if the V3 students are in a "Rip Van Winkle" situation? Let me explain: We saw in an episode of "Danganronpa 3: The End Of Hope's Peak Academy" that the students of the Reserve Course broke into Hope's Peak and started to murder the ultimate students, with the only survivors being Class 78 and Class 77. Now, what if, during the Tragedy, the Hope's Peak higher-ups started a back-up plan consisting in kidnapping normal people and then turn them into Ultimates with the same technology that helped create Izuru Kamakura? What if then they put them in a place isolated from everyone to keep them away from the disasters and then put them in a simulation in cryo-sleep where they will be fed with Flashback Lights containing exaggerated backstories that serve the purpose to ENHANCE their talents (This would explain Ryoma Hoshi killing mafia members with nothing but steel tennis balls) so that one day they could become the new symbols of hope to REPLACE all the fallen ultimates? Only for the Remnants of Despair to find the place and create Team Danganronpa for their various purposes? I'm picturing three kind of people who would be part of Team Danganronpa: - Hope's Peak Purists who want to see something that validates their outdated ideas of Hope = Talent. Since now that Makoto is on charge of the school he will start admitting even non-ultimate students - Remnants of Despair who just want to spread despair - Shady powerful people like mafia gangs, dictators, criminals of all kind, cultists and shady businessmen who use the fallen students like their slaves in a cruel example of human trafficking When Kaede talked about how the world was rotten, what if she was talking about the world at the beginning of the Tragedy? When everything was going to shit and Hope's Peak was exposed for their human experimentation projects?

Thanks for the spoiler thumbnail man very cool of you

This is how the ending is meant to be interpreted. Tsumugi definitely lied in our faces, we just have to figure out what’s true. That’s the beauty of it

i hear that code lyoko bg theme lmao

That was Kayedes lie

The "oh no, things are falling apart" vibes is an interesting idea to contemplate, I'll keep it in mind when I get around to playing v3!

I think Tsumugi calls DR the "Ultimate real fiction" one or multiple times, yes? Maybe that's where the destinction lies in the cospox situation, though it is weird regardless. If those audition tapes really are made by Tsumugi, why does she not break into cospox there? Does it imply their pre-ultimate forms are the fictional ones, or is it just a lie altogether? I don't think the audience is supposed to be fake either. Otherwise, why does Tsumugi seem genuinely surprised when they tune out at the end? Is that all just a performance by her too? It doesn't seem that way to me Though Tsumugi's position is also nebulous. Before the flashback light, she seems to act with the same surprise as everyone else. What would be the point keeping up that front if she knows things have gone awry and everyone will just get memwiped anyway? (Though, somewhat off topic, I think in universe, the Monokubs messing up is pretty clearly intentional, the motoves especially, with the goal of spicing up the show). Perhaps the writers want to distance themselves as much as possible to the point they inserted Tsumugi's character so they can closely control the show without putting themselves in danger Also, why does no one recognize Rantaro? If DR was truly such a big phenomenon, you'd think at least one other person would know who he was from the previous killing game. The game seems to imply the writers are kind of creatively bankrupt and milking the series at some points, e.g. the Monokubs, so it could be that the students were familiar with Danganronpa, but don't follow it closely due to its waning popularity and that's why they recognize the Monokubs but not Rantaro, but it's still strange There are a lot of small things in this game that make me wonder whether there is something going over my head. But maybe that's just the result of the lies vs truth theme purposefully setting up a lot of questions without the devs actually having an answer for them, or are omitting enough to the point that there it truly is open ended, which would be a bit disappointing

I dont appreciate you putting this person in the thumbnail and revealing to me that they're potentially a liar. This video showed in my recommended, and I'm in the middle of a playthrough of it. I don't care if it's not even her that's the mastermind, but i think being a bit thoughtful with spoilers, even fake ones, can go a long way. Others like me will be seeing this thumbnail and feel bad about it.

recognize the factory theme, nice

it's actually quite fitting for the ending of v3 (which theme is more truth v lie instead of the usual hope v despair) to have an ending that you can't fully trust as being the real truth. Think about it, you trust Tsumugi for the entire game (at least to some extent) and are then asked/expected to trust her at her word after she's been proven to be a liar who has been fooling you the entire game. No matter how elaborate a lie is, it is still a lie, even if it is framed as "coming clean" (also i'd like to mention how in contrast to how Junko looked happy in her final moments of despair, Tsumugi out of cosplay looks uncertain and almost dissociative in a way. She should be happy, after all she's facing the despair of death just like junko but she isn't. it almost makes be feel like she was lying to herself as well and in her final moments she couldn't bring herself to lie any longer)

There's a lot about 'Danganronpa V3' that doesn't add up unless you factor in the flashback light.

I think the 'standard' interpertation is that as stated when investigating shuichi's lab the first games and shows are 'drawn', meaning they are just game in universe(like they are for us). V3 is a reality show with real humans that have implanted memories, thier personas are fictonal with real bodies which ia why tsumugi calles them fictiinal. That is why tsumugi can cosplay as dr characters, in universe they are just video game characters. That is also why she cant cosplay kaede, kaede's body ia that of a real human. About how the show is poorly run: It is said that tsumugi wrote some of the plotlines like the kaito maki love plot and from this we can infer that it is at least somewhat scripted. We can also see how using the implanted personas of the drv3 cast dr team could have manipulated some of the main plotlines and murders. An example would be how in case 2. Kirumi's persona would always prioritise her helping the outside world over continuing the killing game. With this in mind the dr team could use the motive videos whenever they wanted her to kill(they could also make the motive less important to the rest of the cast so only she tries to kill). This shows the limited control they had on the game using the cast's personas and motives. While there are momemts that the show goes wrong like how there is no murder in case 1, the game shows how the dr team will just break the rules to fix the nerative in those cases. This is the most common interpertation and i disagree with some of it, but it does clarify some of the misuderstandings you had about the game

This entire video just feels like a COPE that tries to still cling to idea that Danganronpa series wasn't fictional in V3. I think Kodaka's message was pretty clear, It was fictional and "didn't matter" but that doesn't mean it didn't feel real to us. Kaito was fictional but his messages and character was real for Maki, Kaede was fictional but the love Shuichi felt for her was real, same with Tenko/Himiko etc. If you try to overanalyze it and try to imply Tsumugi is just a liar then you are removing the main message from Kodakas work. Just like Anime ressurecting DR2 characters for happy ending completely making their sacrifice and story arcs no longer impactfull.

This analysis is crazy thorough, I loved it!

I think the simplest explanation is that they’re real people with talents in a universe where danganronpa was a tv show/game. I don’t think we will ever get any additional context

Consider changing the thumbnail for spoiler reasons

Glad we get videos like this that touch on how the "plot hole" is a feature and not a bug. Everything about Tsumugi is completely suspect when one explores the implications of the ending at face value, to the point that one could reasonably make an argument for Tsumugi being a victim, the mastermind, one of several masterminds, or just someone who got "written in" to the role halfway through.

I'm mostly most of this makes sense though I would have included sealing industries as an explanation for the Exisals as high tech experiments still seem to need some sort of basis. Cool theory. Any thoughts on the transition of images from drawings to "real" people in that book in the ultimate detective lab?