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I mean, he did receive a suspension for it, so I feel like that’s the system working. I could see some kind of “red card” system like the world tour is testing out though. That’s where multiple offenses escalate in penalty.

What do you mean? I actually think people have been taking eachother to the curb in crits as long as they’ve existed. You just didn’t have GoPro footage of the incident, or the resulting fights afterwards until recently. I’m not saying any of that should be happening, but it’s also not anything new.

The hard line all the way to the curb is the only egregious thing for sure. Tom is riding crazy, and probably annoying trying to infiltrate the train, but he’s one of the 5 or 10 riders in the US who’s proven he can and should be in the mix up there. Justin could have taken Tom wide without going all the way to the curb just to get him out of the train and been within the realm of plausible deniability.

@JonathanCrain I don't know much about cycle racing, but I watch Moto GP regularly. You see these battles all the time; it makes for good watching the more you understand each rider's capability.

Perhaps. What are the good weekly races on there these days?

@@JonathanCrainHeroica, Kiwi Racing, La Classique du Jeudi, Dirty Sprockets Smash, and all eCKD races. Probably some more that I didn't remember right now.

Glad to hear you have power, thanks for listening. Our team has a couple riders up that way, and they're all right, but the devastation in the area is unreal.

@@JonathanCrain I’m glad your Asheville teammates are doing ok. Hope to see you race at Speed Week. Spartanburg is fun, but sketchy. Looking forward to your next podcast.

I saw Dawson got in some breaks that went and pulled a few top 5s. I think Kim won one maybe? I might have missed some.

No problem man, great racing

Thanks. Four years later, still using this PC. Did a session with it yesterday

@@JonathanCrain well worth it. I am copying you with a system I built in 2013 originally and just adding the graphics card.

These are all free yes. Indie Velo has some kind of patreon group or something you can join that gets you access to custom jerseys and club functions or something, but you can access all the courses, events and workouts for free.

@@JonathanCrain will try it.. Tyvm

Thanks! I hadn't planned to race road through Gateway, so it's kind of got me on the back foot for CX season. Once I got within striking distance of the 1 my priorities shifted. Not totally sure what CX races I'll do outside AL, but I'm eyeing Nash Farm and Hendersonville for sure. I need to look at what the non uci categories I could ride are....I need to get my cx bikes built back up too haha

@@JonathanCrain If I see you in Hendersonville, I'll stop by and say hi. Love the UA-cam videos you and Ben do on the US crit scene.

@@timmaros2095 please do, and thanks!

You were there? That's awesome! It was really cool to go race in another region and line up against some different people

Thanks man! Good racing to y’all too

Thanks for watching!

Nice! That's awesome to get a couple wins out the gate. Great series to do that in as well

That's a great idea! I've been racing with JP since he started. I've got at least one funny story about us both cramping and suffering in an incredibly hot GA road race. I'll reach out to him.

@@crankandsprints thanks! That’s interesting about the UK. Most of the Crits I’ve seen from over there look to have similar vertical barricades but I think I’m only aware of the very biggest ones. The stuff that Tekerz, St Piran, Ribble etc do.

@@JonathanCrain The one you refer too are mainly the big ones, where they closed the street in the cities, crit summer and winter series are held in circuits where possible, near London there are 5 for example

The course was on the short side but I thought it raced well. I had a good time!

I just looked back at the data. This was a 40 minute race and we averaged 26 miles per hour so we did almost 19 miles in 40 minutes. We also climbed almost 900 vertical feet. Doesn’t look like it on camera but this is a pretty hilly course as far as criteriums go.

@@JonathanCrain thanks for the response! Watching your vids as inspiration to get started myself. Keep up the great work

@@fanpage2608 Awesome, glad to hear that. And thank you!

The slanted back thing helps with the phones too. It slants toward spectators so at full arm extension, their phone isn’t fully in the way like it is with straight up barricades

Yeah the kid from Lees McRae. He clipped pedal hard.

Does it though? Meaning, has that happened somewhere? PVC has some give, but I think there’s a pretty low chance it breaks, and even lower that the broken shrapnel would end up inside a racer. PVC can be pretty strong though. When I was young we built some quarter pipes with PVC coping that we would SLAM into and didn’t crack it. Not that it’s impossible to break, but a human body has a lot less concentrated force to shatter a pipe than a metal skateboard truck.

@@JonathanCrain Maybe new, but if it's used outdoors and exposed to sunlight it gets brittle from UV damage.

Guess I’ll just die then

@@JonathanCrainWhen I was racing, we didn't even wear helmets. Bike racers have become babies

@@NeverTakeNoShortcuts I bet they also didn't often put up square-tubed metal barriers. Probably just more open courses and the primary risk of death being head-to-pavement. It just feels intellectually inconsistent to implement dangerous course safety measures. Bit of an oxymoron. I get the "toughen up and ride naturally without a helmet" mindset and appreciate that it's at least intellectually consistent, even if I prefer to avoid catastrophic skull fractures, even if it means I have a brightly colored object on my head. But the "let's protect the racers with a dangerous barricade system" feels less well-considered. ;)

@@Saturday_ProFuel Many times there were NO barriers or haybales, just open hydrants, street furniture, people walking on the course, animals. In large events there would be all kinds of crazy barriers of all types.

@@NeverTakeNoShortcuts You sound like a gem

F1 has a lot more money, and more controlled courses than cycling. That said, I did a couple races on car tracks this year and they were exceptionally safe.

@@JonathanCrain Love Pacific Raceways summer series up in WA. Safest race experience ever, and great turnout every week.

at 22:15 you see them (maybe strapped together with velcro?)

Not if it affects the bottom line. Bike races are already operating on really thin margins.

I like that idea. I’d have to look at cost comparison and think about storage/transport

Thanks! Looking at your crash, seems the wind pushed the advert out toward your bars and you caught on that? It was really windy out that day

So what I've heard is that USAC at least had a call with a few officials, promoters, and top level racers. I don't know if there's been any kind of concrete action from that conversation though. So there's no link to share, other than the public posts on Ty Magner's Instagram page and Robin Carpenter's substack. I've continued thinking about this since the podcast and I'm going to have a video coming out within the week detailing 3-5 suggestions I have for new guidelines. Open to hearing whatever you've got as well!

We want to compile a list of serious injuries related to this crowd-control device type. User "@honey" in the chat replay, please reach out! "Barrier" is too generous. These are crowd-control devices designed for concerts and marathons. Not high-speed racing sports. Ronnie Toth, Casey Saunders, Michelle Howe, Ryan Jastrab... how many folks are going to have to suffer or die before we stop putting crowd control on the sides of courses that act as limb guillotines and impaling devices?

@@JonathanCrain Thank you for the reply! It's a shame they didn't reach out to Michelle for this conversation. They're aware of the incident at their event, and she's placed in the top five at USAC Pro Nats before. Maybe we'll hear from them. We'd certainly like to. Here are a few recommendations that are off the top of our heads for the *non-crit* usage of these crowd control devices. - On-barrier Banners, Signage, or Flags: Mesh cloth can be very strong and still allow air (wind) to travel through it but prevent limbs from getting in the "parallelogram" areas. - Tech Guide & Cue Sheet Course Feature Call-Outs: Like "Hey, by the way, here's where on the course besides the finish line where you can expect to have exposed guillotine crowd control devices. - Pre-Barrier Signage: "DANGER" should do the trick. Maybe "IMPALING AHEAD." Or "CAUTION!" The size of the signage needs to correlate with expected rider velocity. - They should never be used for changing directions without signage directly on them. Use stronger zip ties-much stronger. They break. As you mentioned, the second crowd control device the rider hits does tend to be immobile. - PVC would be excellent. Sandbag the bottom for weight. Our lead engineer could design a fence system like this in under a day.

Yeah that makes sense. The more workouts you're doing from the TR platform, the more data points it has to go on. I know it takes outdoor and non TR stuff into account as long as you have the relevant accounts linked but the AI can compare so much easier with a TR workout. Thousands of other people have complete that exact workout and TR knows what their FTP looked like after, what the failure rate was, all that stuff.

Points go 6 deep here, so of course I got 7th 😓 . That’s the sacrifice to win it though. My team mate Zac who won got a load of points here and he did get his upgrade. Yeah I like the US rules. It made for some really interesting racing during this series. Ribble Rebellion team wanted to win from the small break and not lap because Reign Storm has the best leadout train in the sport waiting in the field. It has created some goofy situations in the past, like Oscar Savilla’s Colombian team sending someone off the back to drop into the break and drive it forward. Ultimately DQd but the officials missed it in the moment. It can get messy, but that’s the price of interesting racing I think.

Congratulations! Great racing and an awesome sprint!

The SC3 is more designed for gyms so I actually don't know if it would connect to these apps. If it does, I don't think it has erg mode which would automatically adjust your resistance for a workout, or sim mode which would adjust resistance on the virtual climbs. If you're an ex racer do you already have a bike? I'd say your cheapest and best option right now is probably a Wahoo Kickr Core. It's fully compatible with all the apps, including the free ones in this video, and it's about half the cost of the SC3.

I watched that race but the sprint was a little hard to see from the drone shot with the trees. Is there another angle out there somewhere?

@@JonathanCrain ua-cam.com/video/XwFRXNSRJhA/v-deo.htmlsi=L_r8WO8AFrkgjbU2

@@JonathanCrain looking at the video that was cory williams who almost went down and got 5th.