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I recomend kayak paddle 205-210 cm depending if on flat or whitewater. cheers

@@robertkazik1363 Thanks 🙏👍

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@@kubokubes1, maybe this is not completely nuts, then, but it certainly looks like it is.

You get what you pay for. Intex made in china most likely in mass production massive factory. Robfin is all made and assembled in a small company in Czech republic. would you take your Intex on a grade 5 rapids ??? would you hike with your 20kg intex for say 5 days in a wilderness? I can continue if you want

@@kubokubes1, the Seahawk 2 weighs 8 kilograms; while that is more than your regular (small) packraft, it is not 20 kilogrames. I can take 8 kilograms anywhere I go (and I might be half the weight of the packrafters we see braving wild rivers). Inflated, they offer more room than a packraft does, both for the rower and for his stuff, and they also track much better - true enough, mostly because of efficient rowing (i.e., as opposed to paddling). Made in China, as you seemingly disdainfully say they are (just like, for instance, the telephone you typed your reply on), the Intex boats have proven as reliable as any other boats out there (I will not say "more" even though I have used one Intex boat more than most people will ever get to use their not-made-in-China boats: there simply is no data to justify such a claim). The rapids attract a fraction of the population; they are irrelevant to me as well. Thanks to its higher stability, a Seahawk will still be able to handle rapids - not grade 5, perhaps, which the packrafts can keep for themselves. The reduced weight of the packraft can come in handy, indeed; if available, the in-tube storage on a packraft is another (much more significant) plus. Nevertheless, do these two justify spending 20+ times more money? Perhaps, if you are a rich Czech who wants to support the national economy?! :)

@@hntrains2 I use large robin , it has a 140 liter storage in rear chamber. I am 6'6" and still have plenty space in a boat for a 60 liter dry bag and a small camera dry bag. Also if the Intex works for you than that's great. I know it wouldn't work for me, as a packraft guide I am on a water fairly often and need something to rely on. I paddle lochs, rivers, white water up to grade 4 and also sea. Everyone to their own though. peace ✌️

@@kubokubes1, I se that a large ROBfin is 6.2-6.8 kilograms; not that much less compared to a less sophisticated, more "traditional", raft! Still, quite lighter! At 2.65-2.92 cm in length, the packraft is much longer than the Seahawk, which should make it faster - another plus for the packraft! I am still puzzled by how the internal storage did not make it to all the inflatable boats, regardless of manufacturer; it would change a boater's life like few things can. Thank you for your replies; they confirm that the only major con I could find to a packraft is price. Enjoy your adventures!

That Intex boat is a pool toy!

Those robfins can punch through too.

Hi Luc, I tried to reply through this channel - one more try - my email is robert@robfin.cz can we chat - I found your book recently, very nice !

In your video is leash on foot with no quick release, something completely different. Agree with the risks - has to be compared with long swimmer risks and applied on specific river/lake.

@@robfinvideos9434 No, its not different at all. All you are doing is making excuses for piss-poor practice. Don't ever run leashes to equipment in whitewater, period. No equipment is worth risking your life over. The only reasonable use of a leash is as a rescue tether in a life-saving rescue for another paddler, and even that requires you understand the risks before working on them.

Eh... They state straight out that it is for BIG rivers and lakes. They state that it is unadvisable and risky in whitewater. Considering that ive heard stories of people drowning after losing their packrafts on windy flatwater sections, bringing and sometimes using a leash for expeditions seems to be sensible advice. At worst they should have emphasized the danger more.

A fair comment and I concur. A good video and a good criticism. As with everything on this site (youtube); you watch and take onboard the best bits and reject the rest. I do at times however use a leash on whitewater, usually when alone, if I feel being separated from my paddle could result in a more serious consequence E.g. more river to do before any egress. I mitigate the risk of entrapment by having it attached to the boat with a plastic clip that would break/detach (like a fuse) if more than a simple towing force is involved. It is all about making an educated risk assessment, which I try to do but in hindsight do not always get right.

@@meetmedog I think the reason why some packrafters use leashes and most other whitewater boaters don't is many packrafters have a sense of solo adventure that isn't very common in other boaters. People definitely will kayak a river solo, but not as often. Plus most people kayaking solo whitewater have a bombproof roll and don't plan on getting separated during a swim. Yes, there are people that get kayaks from department stores, but social convention in the whitewater kayaking community is to go with a buddy. Counter point, we are all in between swims. I think a secondary reason is packrafters are more likely to be self taught. People who kayak or canoe are more likely to take a course or find a mentor. These of course are generalizations and exceptions always occur. My perspective, is that I paddle many rivers with lots of strainers (log jams, submerged logs, partially submerged logs, shopping carts) so any potential entanglement and entrapment hazards are something I evaluate and mitigate.

@@meetmedog #1 rule in whitewater is generally "don't paddle alone", but obviously plenty do. Just carry a spare paddle or hand paddles if getting separated from your paddle has that serious of consequences. Even with a rated break-away loop/fuse like you mentioned, the cord can be an entrapment hazard.

Hello - no problem to send you seat, we finish design this May only - just send me to email adress and phone ! Happy paddling.

@@robfinvideos9434 Awesome. Thank you very much. What address do I email you at to give you my information?