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According to what I learned, such as Yuán Yīn Zhèng Kǎo（《园音正考》）, the old school Mandarin had Jian Yin and Tuan Yin, like 清 was qing but 顷 was king. Nowadays both are the same pronunciations. And 晶 was jing but 京 was ging. Nowadays both have the same sounds as well. Ps, this might be the reason why Beijing had an old name -> Pekin or Peking.

japanese can never be written with hangul because japanese NEEDS kanji, in japanese language even hiragana couldnt completely replace kanji...

​@@muizacetheadorable5319 Right, japanese may need kanji for better readability. but that doesn't completely nullify my argument that Japanese can be written in Korean. Back in around 80s and before, Koreans also used a lot of Chinese characters in their writings just as much as Japanese do nowadays. so it wouldn't be that big of a problem to write Japanese with Hangeul along side with Kanji.

Nope😂, I’m not Cantonese and I’m also learning Cantonese. By the way, I heard that in HongKong some universities have the Cantonese learning classes.

Actually, there used to be more.

What letters?

@@sumi2973 ㅿ That is expected to sound like z of "zebra", ㆁ that sounded like ng of "song" ㆆ that sounded like Hamzah(ء) of Arabic.

The dumb idea here is assuming that it's impossible for them to learn Hangul, especially considering for famous it is for being easy to learn.

Yep, so Nowadays, Cantonese speakers still use the Chinese characters to write Cantonese. And here Cantonese has 2 kinds of Hanzi, the written version(such as, 的≈of) and the spoken version(such as, 嘅≈of). In addition, Hangul is still a prototype and Jyutping is a tool that can help people to mark the pronunciations.

Tbh due to a lot more vowels like “oe” “eo” etc which mandarin doesn’t, Cantonese could use jyutpimg (if include tone marks) there’s a system where you use Vietnamese to write canto to include tones. I think the problem is most people, don’t know the pinyin for Cantonese

Thank you 👍. That's a very good supplement. ❤️

well those were actually not tone but accent

쥐 공, 어쩌다 이곳에 오게 되셨소......

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Yes, that's right. Then I think maybe it will be like using Pinyin to write Chinese words instead of Chinese characters. But, just like what you said my mate, honestly I think it's hard to avoid ambiguity. But if there's a Chinese speaker I think he probably understands the sentence that is written by the phonetic alphabet instead of Chinese characters after reading 2 or 3 times. But if he's a non-Chinese speaker, I think he probably needs more time to understand its meaning. 🤔

Sure! it's easier to spell many loanwords.

@@jawijawijawi5047 Yeah, and its consistent to.

Thank you very much~~~❤️❤️❤️

I remember Min nan language or be called taiwanese also uses bopomofo.

To clear things up, I mean by Formosan leeds/languages the Taiwanese First Nations ones

​​​@@tktyga77As a Taiwanese, I hope I can somewhat explain: 1. Except learning Chinese, it also used in typing(Though there are other Chinese typing methods, many Taiwanese, including me, simply typing in Zhuyin). 2. Though it can be use to record the sound of Taiwanese(you can see it as a branch of Min language, or like many Taiwanese nationalists, claim it as a new developed language) and Hakka, but it's rarely used that way nowadays. Mostly, people(especially those nationalists) use Latin alphabets to record those languages, and actually, their are several Latin systems you can choose. 3. If you refer to "Indiginous" Formosan Languages, it's impossible. Because they are Austronesian languages, their phonology and grammar are way too different from Chinese Languages. So they use Latin alphabets to write their languages. Of course, we can use Chinese Characters to translate some of their personal or geographical names, making Han Chinese/Taiwanese easier to pronounce; but beside those exceptions, it's still basically impossible(or at least very inconvenient) to use either Chinese Characters or Zhuyin to completely record their own languages.

​​@@tktyga77 4.Oh, if you wander why Korean or Japanese can adopt Chinese Characters(even with different phonology and grammar), while Indigenous Formosan don't, here are some possible reason: 4-1.Japan, Korea and Vietnam all being influenced by ancient China for nearly 2,000 years. When they start their own civilization and want to learn more, China was the most advanced, powerful civilization they could easily contact. On the other hand, even Indigenous Formosan had trade with other parts of the world for millennia, the first "reliable" Chinese record (and indeed, any written record from outside our island) about Taiwanese Indigenous people, was written only in 1603, called "record of Eastern Barbarians(東番記)". There's only two short and suspicious Chinese expedition records before. Even in that article(it's a classical article in our textbooks), the author wrote: "How strange! sailing from Lesser Kinmen for one day can reach Penghu Islands, and one day more can reach this place(Taiwan), it's pretty close from Mainland China. But here still has people live without proper calendar, government officials(some indigenous groups actually have those, like Paiwan or Rukai people), clothing or writing system...but they enjoy their lives and eat full, do they really need any clever men to civilize them?" So basically, China (and other major ancient civilizations with writing systems)strangely ignored our island, for very long time. Although they could also adopt Brahmic script systems from Southeast Asia, but they seems not very interested either. 4-2.Even until 17~19th century, outsiders like Dutch, Spain, and China, didn't really care about this island. I mean, compare with China, India or Spice Islands, Taiwan isn't a wealthy place, and most of the island is covered by mountainous jungle, hard to govern, let alone those indigenous people still not really impressed by writing system, either Latin, Chinese or Japanese. Only when the massive immigration made assimilation nearly inevitable, and by the power of religion (like Christian missionaries trying to introduce Latin system), so they finally accept writing; although at this point, many traditional cultures also have disappeared or massively changed. And this process still took 200 years. So as you can see, writing records or not is kind of a choice. Although without it may make you more likely lose cultural competition, but like the Celtic druids in ancient Europe, some groups of people may just have their own reason not to do so. 4-3.And there's geography and climate cause: even they choose to adopt/invent writing system, the humid tropical climate and frequent natural disasters, will make preserving paper records harder than most parts of the world. Even carving on stones, bones or wood barks may last longer, but a large earthquake or landslide, can still destroy your greatest steles. 4-4.Also, we have dozens of indigenous groups, and they are pretty diverse. You can look up wikipidia: most Austronesian language branches can only be found in Taiwan, while nearly ALL other Austronesians, from Malay, Hawai'i to Maori, belong in a single branch(Malay-Polynesian). Which means, they are barely intelligible(probably, since I'm ethnic Han). So If a Seediq person write something, it can hardly be understood by Siraya, Tsou or Puyuma readers, making writing less useful. 4-5.Finally, until these few decades, the purpose of most outside rulers that introducing writing systems, is to force the indigenous learn their official languages (like Chinese or Japanese), or even the outsider's culture; not helping them to learn their native tongues. According to my own experience(being forced to learn English), that could discourage indigenous people to adopt writing systems even more.

@@titan941234 so with all of those in mind, even though there does seem to be an alphabet for the Formosan leeds, any sort of communication between them would have to be something like a sign language and/or a kind of logographic writing done in an akin way to the Han writing or some kind of lingua franca if not taking into account the official ones being the one for intercultural communication uses? Another concern regarding places to put writing in such as mud or wood plus paper are susceptible to termites, which happens to be a big part of why records on premodern Africa from the inside are hard to find

Thank you 🙏. And today although nü shu is included in unicode, the corresponding things are limited, like font, articles, websites written by nü shu etc. So it may be hard to use nü shu on google.

Just like how every word cannot be used in hiragana/kataka, Chinese words cannot be written in zhuyin

@mdahsenmirza2536 No not mean all words but only borrowed word like Miller[ㄇㄧㄌㄜ]. You know katakana is used for borrowed words.

@@Mouse-p5s the thing with Chinese is that there is an extreme amount of similar sounding words. I only know a bit of Chinese and I can list out possibly a very long list of different characters that all have the same pronunciation down to the same tones being used. That is why chinese cannot be written down in either pinyin or zhuyin. As for phonetic names, chineese already uses set characters for phonetic transliterations, like 馬 is used for transliterating the sound "ma". for example, marcopolo is 馬可波羅， mark is 馬可, etc. As you see, with the han characters, you have the freedom to choose which characters can represent your name. Maybe, a supposed mark does not want his name to mean "horse permission" so he instead uses the characters 瑪恪 that means something like "Beauty in diligence" because everything he does, he does with dilligence and beauty. + Also, zhuyin is limited to taiwan i guess so that eaves a lot of people that don't know/ can't use zhuyin

@@Mouse-p5sas a chinese person, no we do not, unfortunately

​@mdahsenmirza2536 Writing foreign pronunciation as hanzi feels like so stubborn. Korean and Japanese even don't that.

Teahouse is a place where everyone can chat with each other and relax in east Asia. So I hope my channel can also be like this, a place to share the ideas and relax 🙂.

@@SebxTeaHouse2.0 why seb'x is it for Serbia? And is the Chinese really is the communist side of China

@@SebxTeaHouse2.0 i don't know if the same thing I said earlier was sent or not but. Why does it need to be seb'x and the Chinese language you put on the subtitle is it the simplified chinese

Because the number of people who are using and learning the simplified Chinese characters are more.

Seb'x is from seb's, I changed s to x, because it looks cooler. Like Elon Musk' X(Twitter) and SpaceX.

Thank you for your comment. 1. What’s this? - I think you mean this video. This is my homework of learning language. Several years ago I finished the grammar learning. But I don’t like lose what I learned. So I must to practice. Making a simple video is my way. If you find there are mistakes about the grammar, vocabulary, etc. let me know. 2. Why are there Irish and basque? - Just the words in the video. Because there are some legends of the origin of chimichurri were connected with Irish and Basque.

@@SebxTeaHouse2.0 I meant is there more Irish known people that is famous in other people land than there is more Basque people that is famous in other people land

I think the answer is yes. There’s my opinion. After searched some information. I found that there are 70 million to 80 million Irish people in the world and most of Irish people have moved to other countries. But basque people are less, in around 3 million people. If we plus the Basque argentines, the basque population will be around 6 million. So based on Irish people are more people in population, I think there’s more Irish people that is famous in other people land than basque.

@@SebxTeaHouse2.0 interesting

Because I’m learning them. So I shared my “homework” that I practiced writing and reading in the languages. PS. When writing and reading, I can learn many new vocabularies and how to use the words.

Maybe my video still has many lacks so you can tell me. I will try my best to improve them.

@@SebxTeaHouse2.0 its your accent man. I can barely understand what you’re saying.

​@@InappropriateShortsI can understand him you just have to double check and listen carefully.

@@tpbunghole420 I shouldn’t have to double check and listen carefully. I’m a native English speaker of several dialects. he simply needs better pronunciation and enunciation. Telling him this helps him.

@@InappropriateShorts true but what if some people can understand but you just can't. Like do you hate what the subject is about? Or you see the need to bring it up to make yourself feel better.