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@@danielnicoll5981 Thanks for sharing! That is also what we think, if we go the bullbar route it either needs to be light or have compensating weight in the rear. For is that needs to be more than 200kg

Thanks for your insights. As responded to a previous comment - we are not sure we want the bull bar yet and will go our 3 months in Tassie without it.

Thanks for watching. Yes concerning indeed. We'll need to consider the GVM upgrade if we want a steel bullbar.

Thanks Michael - you're the expert here and your advice was absolutely invaluable. Now we just have to figure out what to do :-)

Yes, it's very different and Europe has lighter caravans.

We followed the expert and the way the vehicle is weighed by the authorities, which includes anything on the axle.

Understand that, but this is the problem when all things are not considered properly. Axle weight should be taken from the hub, wheel and tyres should be legally rated to take the axle load. Doing it this current way is revenue raising when defect notices start being handed out.

@@Undies79 You are absolutely technically correct. BUT whether this was ever a consideration I am not aware of but in the road transport sector where it would have been argued if anywhere it is taken as the load measured under the tyres. The European trucks have always struggled with front axle weights and the weight of the tyres/wheels would have been a welcome adjustment for them, but it is NOT taken into account. So the reality is that it is measured under the tyres, whether technically correct or not.

@@ianloy1854 Technicalities will save you in a court of law, if they ever tried to blame it on an accident happening. Engineers of the accessories and Manufacturers of the vehicles should be pushing back on this. Atleast 70-80kg of weight that should not be counted on the axle load.

Great you enjoyed it. A professional weighing session is very informative and educational - would recommend it.

Yes all 3 tanks full, 240 litres. We also had more water to simulate food and clothes. The van was not really our worry as weighed before. It as really how things changed by subbing a Pajero for a Ranger.

@@TravellingLP i was interested because I have an Outback 19.6.2 and when I got it I had to ditch the front generator/tool box as it was overweight on the ball. In have a Ford Everest but am not happy with the way the van tows. Your experience with the weight at the back and over the drawbar is very interesting as I have added a lightweight box on the back bumper but it holds a baby Weber that is failry heavy.

@@rossdavey428 We looked at a 19.61-2 that had a large toolbox on the front, but the ball was already close to 350kg without any of our stuff, so we passed that one. At the time we were towing with a Pajero NX that would have been way overweight. Really recommend going to a competent weigher for advice.

@@TravellingLP I did, after I took the heavy toolbox off and weights were good (but I dont recall him measuring the difference between front and back van wheels). I then put the rear plastic toolbox on and have not had a chance to re weigh the van. I think the baby Q Weber might be too much weight on the back.

Thanks for watching and your comment! On the ARB site they say that the approximate weight of the Summit II bar, chassis mounts and fitting kit is 79kg. Approximately 17kg is removed from the vehicle for fitment of the bar - so net is 62kg on paper. Clearly the bar can be used if you have a GVM upgrade such as the second stage Lovells which adds 150kg. It also costs $6k. Both Ford and ARB could be clearer on that point.

I also pointed that out and Michael indicated he was compensating for that.

Yes, Wildtrak 24.5 and Summit II (was the plan). That is correct the Lovells 7t GCM upgrade has that increase and costs about $6k - it would be fair for Ford and ARB to be clear on that point.

It does indeed! especially since Ford recommend the ARB Summit II bar. It means you also need the $6k GVM upgrade which increases the front axle capacity sufficiently. I think it is a bit misleading by the manufacturer.

An excellent question! we have thought about this and have already decided that for our travels in Tasmania a bull bar is not necessary. However, later we intend to travel in Western Australia and South Australia and we are looking at more remote travel. A family member who recently did the Oodnadatta Track and the Strzelecki Track noted emus on the road and had some near misses.

@ I’ve done the oonadatta track recently also and i live in WA… done the Gibb River road … well many places in WA & the eastern states…. So after all this travelling… it’s a no from me… we are soon to retire to do further travelling.. here & abroad.

It's a long story! we wanted a full-size van, dual axle and independent suspension - so we got what we wanted there, without really thinking through the detail consequences. Lighter vans exist of course - but generally minus the independent suspension and going to pop top - that would easy save 500-600kg, but it would have been a big compromise for us given the amount of travel and the roads we intend to travel. The story's not finished though - we we'll re-weigh on 22/12 before deciding what accessories we can add.

Thanks for watching. Yes, we had power and water at the showground, but not in the National Park at Bald Rock. There was nothing wrong with the showground, just very wet underfoot!

No they are not. I've since traded the car as I need a stronger vehicle - whole video on the topic 😢

Thanks mate - hope so, we are off shortly again!

Thanks for your insights - it's really a minefield, weights....

Sounds great! our fuel consumption look around 20lt/100 for the moment, hoping that will go down

@@TravellingLP We sit on 93KPH by the speedo if we sit on 100 we also use about 20 per hundred. ours has done just over 5000km.

Great suggestion thanks!

Yes, understand - the Pajero NX tows very well, the issue is the rear axle limit. I think if one can buy a lighter van - say 2.5t ATM and maybe a Tare under 2t with a 130kg Tare ball weight the Pajero tows really well and legally. The engine is powerful enough and if a throttle controller is added then the power is available on demand - no lag. I hope you managed to settle the issue and now either have a larger tow vehicle or smaller van.

@@TravellingLP the dealer was useless we now have a Discovery 4 great car but not without it's issues 😉

@@plasmaDave Should of bought an Isuzu MUX.

Thanks Manu!

:-) Good question - basically we could have got under the rear axle limit by removing the second row seats and the roof rack, but still leaving behind stuff we want to take with us. Originally the car was destined to be a 4WD camping vehicle, and it MIGHT tow a camper trailer.... things worked out differently!

A bit concerned about the advice to compensate the heavier ball weight by adding weight to the rear. This is never a good idea as it creates a dumbbell effect where the van in a sway situation rotates around the van's axles and so spears the whole rig off the road. Weight on the back of a long van effectively triples in inertia and so should be kept to a minimum. Perhaps you have changed this now you have the Ranger.

Yes, the Ranger is totally different setup and the TBM can go to 350kg. Basically though, there is a formula for weight distribution, if you add 10kg to the back bar it takes of about 5kg from the ball. I'm not an expert on this but would think it's all about balance - I would not add 100kg to the back bar to take 50kg of the ball.... hence in our case with the Pajero we drained the front water tank to mainly remove weight. New weighing planned on 8 November ! (with the Ranger!)

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

Thanks for the feedback Mick_4591

Hi Media1788au - the 59 Kg are what we needed to remove to get close to legal. This is now history with a new vehicle which we will re re-weighing shortly :-)

@@TravellingLP good on you for going the heavier tow vehicle... 40yrs in the heavy vehicle industry and I cringe at the thought of border line weights and tow vehicles being tampered with with upgrades and sometimes lighter than the van. Just saying, if you get the same person to weigh your vehicles, get someone else in the know to check the chart afterwards. I have been getting trucks and caravans weighs done for years and sometimes they're in error. Safety first, rules second is my philosophy.

I would be getting a lift or heavier rear suspension as looks like it’s down a bit and we did same and GVM upgrade with suspension and shocks etc and has made an incredible difference 😎

@@thelonewolf666 thanks mate. It was a difficult decision but in the long term it makes a lot of sense

The Ranger and an MUX have the same towing capacity.

They have the same towing capacity.

He is really easy to deal with and the advice is good. He spent over 2 hours with us and we were still only charged the standard fee - highly recommended.

That would be cool! But we also like the freedom to say what we like!

Thanks for your comment - I found the small speaker was difficult to remove and replace so just took the door card off.

Thanks - definitely the plan but showcase the NSW Mid-North Coast first!